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D_Raay
09-28-2005, 12:05 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050928/ap_on_go_co/delay_investigation;_ylt=AnEXfGF3d4UhLJzihsAcyTKs0 NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ

WASHINGTON - A Texas grand jury on Wednesday charged Rep.
Tom DeLay and two political associates with conspiracy in a campaign finance scheme, forcing the House majority leader to temporarily relinquish his post.


DeLay, 58, was accused of a criminal conspiracy along with two associates, John Colyandro, former executive director of a Texas political action committee formed by DeLay, and Jim Ellis, who heads DeLay's national political committee.

"I have notified the speaker that I will temporarily step aside from my position as majority leader pursuant to rules of the House Republican Conference and the actions of the Travis County district attorney today," DeLay said in a statement.

Criminal conspiracy is a state felony punishable by six months to two years in a state jail and a fine of up to $10,000. The potential two-year sentence forces DeLay to step down under House Republican rules.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the president still considers DeLay a friend and effective leader in Congress.

"Congressman DeLay is a good ally, a leader who we have worked closely with to get things done for the American people," McClellan said. "I think the president's view is that we need to let the legal process work."

The indictment accused DeLay of a conspiracy to "knowingly make a political contribution" in violation of Texas law outlawing corporate contributions. It alleged that DeLay's Texans for a Republican Majority political action committee accepted $155,000 from companies, including Sears Roebuck, and placed the money in an account.

The PAC then wrote a $190,000 check to an arm of the
Republican National Committee and provided the committee a document with the names of Texas State House candidates and the amounts they were supposed to received in donations.

The indictment included a copy of the check.

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So they still support him and consider him a good friend until he is convicted, which should be a no-brainer, then watch how their rhetoric won't match their actions.

FunkyHiFi
09-28-2005, 12:23 PM
Those bold-faced sections reinforce my opinion that America's top leaders are living in their own insulated bubbles and have little clue how 99.9% of the rest of America-or just the average world citizen-lives and thinks.

:( :( :(

sam i am
09-28-2005, 01:34 PM
Those bold-faced sections reinforce my opinion that America's top leaders are living in their own insulated bubbles and have little clue how 99.9% of the rest of America-or just the average world citizen-lives and thinks.

:( :( :(

What? He wants to let the legal proces work. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Or, would you rather just line DeLay up against a wall now and shoot him?

DroppinScience
09-28-2005, 03:24 PM
Hells yeah! This is great news! :)

sam i am
09-28-2005, 03:31 PM
Hells yeah! This is great news! :)

Why, exactly? What has he done that is so demonic or not worthy of your opprobrium? Strictly tongue-in-cheek, BTW.....

DroppinScience
09-28-2005, 05:28 PM
Why, exactly? What has he done that is so demonic or not worthy of your opprobrium? Strictly tongue-in-cheek, BTW.....

DeLay is just so damn corrupt. It's good to see he's being taken accountable for his actions.

sam i am
09-28-2005, 05:32 PM
DeLay is just so damn corrupt. It's good to see he's being taken accountable for his actions.

Ok. Cool. We agree that all should be held accountable for their actions. I appreciate when someone is not just parroting the Party line. You continue to rise in my estimation, DS. :cool:

Echewta
09-28-2005, 05:34 PM
Good thing the Republicans changed the rules on "ethics" in Congress. Seems to have saved Delay. Just like they planned.

Ali
09-29-2005, 01:17 AM
What? He wants to let the legal proces work. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Or, would you rather just line DeLay up against a wall now and shoot him?Maybe they should declare him an Enemy Combatant, then?

Funkaloyd
09-29-2005, 02:37 AM
(y) Niiiice.

SobaViolence
09-29-2005, 10:26 AM
is he still invited to sit on Trent Lott's rebuilt porch?

Documad
09-29-2005, 12:53 PM
The other Republicans in Congress seem relieved. He's done his job, but he's been an embarrassment too.

It doesn't matter to me whether he's found guilty of a crime or not. What he and the others admit to doing is bad enough, even if it doesn't turn out to be technically a crime. It's kind of hard to crow about changing the face of state government and then saying you had no role in it.

I can't understand how little regard people like him have for the government, the political process, and for public service. The same with all the shameful pork tied to 9/11 and Homeland Security. It seems to be the opposite of what swept the Republicans into power.

sam i am
09-29-2005, 01:15 PM
The other Republicans in Congress seem relieved. He's done his job, but he's been an embarrassment too.

It doesn't matter to me whether he's found guilty of a crime or not. What he and the others admit to doing is bad enough, even if it doesn't turn out to be technically a crime. It's kind of hard to crow about changing the face of state government and then saying you had no role in it.

I can't understand how little regard people like him have for the government, the political process, and for public service. The same with all the shameful pork tied to 9/11 and Homeland Security. It seems to be the opposite of what swept the Republicans into power.

You do have a decent argument there, Documad. Us Conservatives are not thrilled with the pork barrell spending, but the hardship lies in being demonized by the Demos if we don't participate in the pork. For instance, a contender running against an incumbent in a local congressional district is MUCH more likely to ask about what has that congressman/woman done FOR the district. The question is not about what that person has acheived in cutting the deficit or spending or foregin affairs or lawmakking. That question is directly realted to : Have you brought home the bacon? If not, watch the challenger promise to bring it home if elected. If so, this is not a point that can be easily used against the incumbent.

You and I both know, Documad, that this is the reality of the political scene on the local level, especially for House members. The ones who tend to get a lot more done or stand strictly on principle are those that are not interested in running again.

Sorry for the cynicism, but that is reality.