Californians....why do you love it so?

[Qdrop]

Your state is the home of such constant ecological crisis....

epic forest fires every fuckin season, earthquakes semi constantly (with huge ones every few years), mudslides....

it IS only a matter of time before the BIG ONE hits and levels most of central CA....

the big cities are full of smog/pollution...overcrowding, heavy traffic that's only getting worse.
Arnold is your governor...

i don't get it....why do so many live there?....
that state fuckin blows....

what's the draw? why live there?

i feel the same about southern costal regions in the US....

why live in places that put your lives in semi-constant peril?

[Qdrop]

have you ever been here?

i was almost killed in forrest fire last year.....coming home from work.









no.
that's why i'm asking.

[Documad]

I used to feel that way. Then I started visiting as an adult.

(As a kid all I could remember was the beach and Disneyland.)

[Qdrop]

California is magnificant in its own right, people put up with the shit....because it rules here.

what would be your limit?

what would have to happen for you to say "fuck this, i'm moving to Pheonix!" or some shit...

[sam i am]

Your state is the home of such constant ecological crisis....

epic forest fires every fuckin season, earthquakes semi constantly (with huge ones every few years), mudslides....

it IS only a matter of time before the BIG ONE hits and levels most of central CA....

the big cities are full of smog/pollution...overcrowding, heavy traffic that's only getting worse.
Arnold is your governor...

i don't get it....why do so many live there?....
that state fuckin blows....

what's the draw? why live there?

i feel the same about southern costal regions in the US....

why live in places that put your lives in semi-constant peril?

Q...as one who grew up in Southern California for the first 25 years of his life, I'd agree with much of what you are questioning here. The weather is great much of the time, and you do have the beaches, but otherwise much of your diatribe is spot-on.

You could also add the problems with economic stagnation, graffitti (an epidemic), a large population of gangs, a horrible public education system, the lack of affordable housing, I could go on and on....

That's why I moved to Las Vegas in 1995 - none of the hassles of Cali and tons of new jobs, better traffic, etc., et al.....

[sam i am]

California is magnificant in its own right, people put up with the shit....because it rules here.

BTW....I LOVE Dupar's and Tommy's burgers (especially the original location at Robertson) and Cupid's hot dogs, but the food doesn't make up for all the shit you have to put up with to live there.

[Qdrop]

That's why I moved to Las Vegas in 1995 - none of the hassles of Cali and tons of new jobs, better traffic, etc., et al.....

i seriously want to check out Vegas sometime....

[paul jones]

I had a nap in an Inglewood motel between flights coming baclk from Australia two years ago. I watched a bit of The Price Is Right on the TV. I was too scared to leave the motel though

[sam i am]

i seriously want to check out Vegas sometime....

C'mon out, man....I'll hook ya up. Vegas is the bomb.

[Qdrop]

C'mon out, man....I'll hook ya up. Vegas is the bomb.

i want to go there and solve a crime using forensic science....

[enree erzweglle]

I hate to respond because I'm not a Californian now, but I was for awhile in the late 80s/early 90s and I loved it.

I loved the people. I loved how it was easy to be healthy. I loved how there were always things happening from a music/arts perspective.

Stuff originates there--California sets the trends in a lot of ways (those trends take years to make it East).

I loved the diners and cafes. It was neat that you guys had coffee shops while we were still drinking coffee out of ceramic cups and paying .20/bottomless.

I love that no one there seems to know what iceberg lettuce is.

I loved that I was never cold in California. I loved that I could plan a day and not have to make weather a factor.

I loved that I could get to extremes in activities (beaches v. mountains) easily. I loved Big Sir.

California has nudist hot springs--big plus.

I'll stop now. I will say this, though: I don't know that I'd want to live there for the rest of my life, but my time there was good and I miss it still.

[sam i am]

i want to go there and solve a crime using forensic science....

My wife's major in college was forensic psychology. Come out and we'll all go solve some far-out forensic shit, gamble, and you can get plastered if you like...I'll drive (I don't drink).

[sam i am]

I hate to respond because I'm not a Californian now, but I was for awhile in the late 80s/early 90s and I loved it.

I loved the people. I loved how it was easy to be healthy. I loved how there were always things happening from a music/arts perspective.

Stuff originates there--California sets the trends in a lot of ways (those trends take years to make it East).

I loved the diners and cafes. It was neat that you guys had coffee shops while we were still drinking coffee out of ceramic cups and paying .20/bottomless.

I love that no one there seems to know what iceberg lettuce is.

I loved that I was never cold in California. I loved that I could plan a day and not have to make weather a factor.

I loved that I could get to extremes in activities (beaches v. mountains) easily. I loved Big Sir.

California has nudist hot springs--big plus.

I'll stop now. I will say this, though: I don't know that I'd want to live there for the rest of my life, but my time there was good and I miss it still.

It's like what I always say about San Francisco - a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Plus, the skiing in S. Cal. sucks ass.....I didn't have any idea how great it could be to snowski until I went o Utah and Colorado - talk about powder!

Anyhow, there is much to like/love about Cali, but the crap that's there isn't enough to make me EVER want to move back.

[Echewta]

There is never nothing to do in Los Angeles. I can drive to San Diego, San Fransico, or Las Vegas in the same day to do completely different things. The weather rocks. Somewhere, there is a store that has what I'm looking for and a resturant that has what I want to eat. Do I want to put skiis or a surfboard on my car today? Bike? Paraglide? Go dogfight in a WWII plane? Way too much to do compared to most places in the country that I've been too. I have not been to Chicago. I'm sure it rocks. I love NY, but wouldn't want to live there.

Every place has its problems. The fires here are something that will bug us for a week or so and then it will be over.

Plus, we dont have a NFL team. That says alot.

[Qdrop]

My wife's major in college was forensic psychology. Come out and we'll all go solve some far-out forensic shit,

only if we can listen to "The Who" the whole time...



gamble, and you can get plastered if you like

the Montecito? ohh....i hear security is great there....

[sam i am]

Plus, we dont have a NFL team. That says alot.

Is that what you consider a plus?

I grew up with the LA Rams (my Dad had season tickets to the Coliseum) and we'd go see 'em all the time. Lawrence McCutcheon, Jack Snow, etc. - now there were some football teams!

Even when the Raiders played there in the '80's, it was great.

BUT...the Northridge earthquake shook me into the reality of what it was like to live in LA - people die from that shit and THERE"S NO FUCKING WARNING!

Good luck loving your life there until one day you have a 9.0 and 100's of THOUSANDS of deaths.....

[sam i am]

only if we can listen to "The Who" the whole time...

Dude....no way. How about Beasties? The Who are OK for short spells, but I can't take them full-time.

[Qdrop]

There is never nothing to do in Los Angeles. I can drive to San Diego, San Fransico, or Las Vegas in the same day to do completely different things. The weather rocks. Somewhere, there is a store that has what I'm looking for and a resturant that has what I want to eat. Do I want to put skiis or a surfboard on my car today? Bike? Paraglide? Go dogfight in a WWII plane? Way too much to do compared to most places in the country that I've been too.


so you think it's in your genes then? a personality thing?

you need constant action?
the fear of being complacent or content?

perhaps the dangers actually stimulate you in that respect...
i could understand that....

[HEIRESS]

northwest coast 4evaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Qdrop]

Good luck loving your life there until one day you have a 9.0 and 100's of THOUSANDS of deaths.....

and that's a big part of what i'm talking about...

it's not a matter of if...but WHEN!

it will happen...we KNOW it will happen....the people that live there KNOW it will happen.

but they stay.

and then it will happen.
and thousands upon thousands will die.
a national distaster.

news clips of the wounded standing in the streets with there children screaming "WHY..WHY....I CAN'T FIND MY CHILD! WHY DID THIS HAPPEN...HELP US...WE NEED AID!"

as if they never saw this coming.....

[HEIRESS]

everyone who isnt part of the ring of fire club is always so jealous.

[cookiepuss]

I don't know. I was born here and I still think it's maginificent. it's just home and that's all there is to it.

but I'm a true Northern Californian... for me southern California in Monterey. Might as well be separate states after that point.

Living in and around the Bay area I feel like I'm pretty centrally located to do quite a variey of things. Tahoe is only 4-5 hours away. San Fran is only an hour away for nightlife, culture and the works! We have amazing redwood forrests. beautiful lakes and rivers. (y) I'm living in the heart of the wine country and I really can't complain except of the the fact that I've seen this area grow exponentially over the years and we are losing alot of the rual areas that I really loved. that and it's gotten so insanely expensive. It's not like it was when I was a kid. :(

[cosmo105]

it's sweater weather at 80 degrees

like echewta said, there is ALWAYS something to do, so you never complain about being bored

you meet amazing people

the beach is an hour away no matter where you are

the music scene is so active and awesome

the art scene is like nowhere else

the people are incredible

the food is incredible

the atmosphere...you just have to be a native to understand. i love it here.

[Documad]

Okay, now I travel a lot, and I always wonder what it would be like to live there, but Vegas is one place I can't even imagine living. I realize that I've only been to the strip, the airport, and downtown, but it seems really flat and ugly and dry. Your plane lands and you look out and see flat brown ground with this mound of huge buildings in the distance and it's just strange and icky. I play blackjack for 3 days pretty much nonstop and then leave. I need green and hills and water.

I know that L.A. has its problems, but drive anywhere along the CA coast and the scenery varies tremendously. I did a bunch of the Highway 1 drive last fall and while I had heard it was marvelous, it was so much better than I expected. We stopped a lot, did a lot of side trips inland, and hit loads of state parks. We saw so much variation in vegetation, bird, and animal life. We marvelled at how the smell would change as we hit new kinds of trees. It felt like every time we turned a corner, there would be a new vista and our jaws would drop. We stayed in little run down motels near the water. To sleep every night near the sound of waves is my idea of heaven. (On the other hand, we drove through the actual cities like Carmel like a bat out of hell.) Then we got to LA and it was completely different but wonderful in a whole different way. We met up with friends who live there so we saw the best stuff I'm sure, but I was really impressed. (I've spent more time in San Diego and San Francisco because I've got family there.)

My other favorite thing to do is eat outside, and you can do that everywhere in CA for not very much money compared to my hometown, and you're surrounded by exotic plants.

In the last decade, I keep visiting different cities in CA and I am always impressed. I've always figured I couldn't afford to live there, but it's gotten so expensive here and my friends aren't paying nearly as much as I thought in LA. One reason CA is not high on my list of places to move to is it's one of the few states that makes experienced attorneys take the bar exam again. :(

[Echewta]

So where is it safe? Earthquakes can happen everywhere. Hurricanes rip up the south. Didn't chicago have a big ass fire? Didn't planes crash into buildings in New York? Wasn't there a big drought in the midwest? Didn't the stock market crash? Was there a murder in your city recently? Ever been in a car accident? Ever have food poisoning?

I've been in a serious earthquake, sam, thank you. The Whittier/Narrows. Mom screaming. Things crashing around me. Living outside for a week camping in our car. All while having mono. Things will always happen, no matter where you are.

[hardnox71]

Q, I can understand your question. It makes sense. There's all kinds of shit going on in California all the time. It's hard to explain what the attraction is, man. It really is. I think it's probably kinda different for people who move there as opposed to people who grew up there. I will always love California and as much as I was transformed into swearing, fighting city kid I started out in life as a laid back beach bum, believe it or not.

I grew up all over Southern California for the first 10 years of my life and as much as I am an snowy Chicagoan now, I will never forget getting up on Christmas morning and wearing shorts and my brand new baseball cleats to 7-11 (the one with the video games!!) to get my dad a pack of smokes. Christmas morning!! I remember spending endless days running up and down the beach by myself, swimming in the ocean and fishing off the pier when I was six in Imperial Beach. I remember Vans. Not the Vans that are on the market now. I'm talking about 25 years ago when no one knew what the hell Vans were except skateboarders and surfers. Checkerboard slip-ons! I remember everyone running around in t-shirts that said 'Mr. Zogg's Sex Wax' on the front and on the back it said 'The best for your stick.' Mr. Zogg's Sex Wax was a brand of surfboard wax. Sticks are what they call surfboards, for those that don't know. Ocean Pacific. Lightening Bolt. Jack in the Box. Pinnacle Peaks restaurant. If you walked in the door with a tie on they would cut it off at the knot and staple it to the wall. No shit. Winchell's Donuts. Back to school shopping at Gemco (read: Target). The Spaghetti Factory and Whaley House in Old Town. Parkway Plaza. Pepper Drive Elementary. I could go on all day.

Lotsa sunshine, lotsa beach, lotsa fun. California is just an entirely different culture, Q. I think what the attraction is for people who grew up there, or for me at least, are the memories. But everyone's got a different California.This one's mine.

[Qdrop]

i don't doubt that california is fuckin beautiful....

the weather sounds great too (though there is something to say about a discernable lack of "seasonal change" that us Northeasterners are used to)...

i have no doubt that you have a variety of cultural/social events and attractions and all that...

i was just questioning whether those things make up for the ecological parrel you seem to be suffering semi-often...

apparently so....

[enree erzweglle]

My other favorite thing to do is eat outside, and you can do that everywhere in CA for not very much money compared to my hometown, and you're surrounded by exotic plants. I forgot about that part of it. There really is an atmosphere to the parts of California that I knew.

And about disasters, really, if you think that way, then you'll probably never find a place that's safe to live.

I'd rather live for less time and enjoy what I'm doing than to compromise and feel like I missed out on living my own life. I think if that means living in any place that has unavoidable & imminent-seeming dangers, you can only survive if you don't try to mitigate every possible risk.

I can't imagine living a life in California if I worried daily about earthquakes.

[Echewta]

Q, dont forget this is hollywood too. The media loves to show whats going on here all the time. It makes it seem like the entire city is burning. An earthquake will hit a part of the city, and maybe only really effect a certian borro. I think we've lost 1 or 2 homes with this fire so far? Thats not bad for three days of burning. Thousands of acres burning are of empty land. Something that is natural to begin with. :)

[cosmo105]

earthquakes are so overhyped. they're not THAT bad. yes, they happen. but it's a natural disaster, just like hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. like others have mentioned. no native thinks about them. they happen, you deal with them. most of the time they're small and just a few seconds of ground surfing and everyone laughs.

[Qdrop]

So where is it safe? Earthquakes can happen everywhere. yeah, us new yorkers are bracing for the BIG ONE any day now...

Hurricanes rip up the south. yep, i mentioned my similar feeling about the southern coast regions already..

Didn't chicago have a big ass fire? Didn't planes crash into buildings in New York? these are rare-sporatic things....and 9/11 was a once in a lifetime thing. that is not comparable to the seasonal wildfires and earthqueakes you deal with, the smog,....among other things.

Didn't the stock market crash? Was there a murder in your city recently? Ever been in a car accident? Ever have food poisoning? all unavoidable, for the most part. those are regionally unspecific things.

earthquakes, hurrincanes and wildfires are ...

Things will always happen, no matter where you are.
oh yeah.
and that's why i was mentioning trying to avoid the things that you CAN avoid and control.
like not living near a fault line....or wildfire central....and smog....

[Documad]

One thing I will say for the midwest is we don't (so far) have crazy bugs. I guess they don't like the winter. I truly love winter.

I love Chicago, but I wouldn't want to live there. I think it has the most frustrating traffic situation I've ever experienced, and I've experienced it repeatedly. If I could live and work downtown I could do it. Apparently everyone else is thinking the same thing because there are about a million new condos going in downtown. :p

[Qdrop]

most of the time they're small and just a few seconds of ground surfing and everyone laughs.

sounds fun.

[Qdrop]

I love Chicago, but I wouldn't want to live there. I think it has the most frustrating traffic situation I've ever experienced,

yeah, i went there for business 2 years ago.....and i got caught in morning traffic for over 2.5 hours...and i had to duece SOOOOOO bad.
it was fucking hell.

but chicago was fun....
been there a few times....

[Documad]

I have to say that I seriously doubt I'm going to die in a natural disaster in Minnesota. Whereas Frontline did a whole show on how it's only a matter of time for coastal CA. It wouldn't matter to me because I'd rather die in an earthquake than in a nursing home. But it's not irrational to consider it.

I think it's a lot like New Orleans--everyone knows it's a matter of time and there's nothing you can do to prevent it, but you don't know how much time and it's a super cool place to be for however long you have.

[cookiepuss]

The earthquakes don't bother me. the ones big enough to actually feel don't happen very often really. and yeah a huge one is inevitable, but it doesn't weight heavily on my mind. I don't know why I'm not scared. I'm just not. maybe it's becasue I've been through some large earthquakes so there is no fear of the unknown. I know what will happen.

now Tornadoes? frickin scare the crap out of me. you'll never find me residing in tornado alley. I've only seen them on tv. so it's a major fear of the unknown.


Sometimes I am sad because it is very unlikely that I will live in California for the rest of my life. we won't be able to afford a house here unless our parents die and leave us one. We will have to move eventually, but I don't know where we will go yet.

[cosmo105]

same here, cookiepuss. i wish i could live here forever...but homes are ridiculous. even northern cal. there's always the northwest...

[Documad]

yeah, i went there for business 2 years ago.....and i got caught in morning traffic for over 2.5 hours...and i had to duece SOOOOOO bad.
it was fucking hell.

but chicago was fun....
been there a few times....
I went there last week for a concert. I made my friend use the bathroom at the rest stop just outside the city because when I went for Beasties last fall I had to pee so bad I had to make my friend circle in the car while I ran into a public building once we could get off the freeway. This time was even worse. It took us three hours sitting in traffic to get downtown. We had to go straight to the venue and forget about checking into the hotel. Because we were all just sitting in traffic, truck drivers from Minnesota and Michigan kept yelling down at us "I hope no one has to pee" and things like that. They must save that humor for when they hit Chicago and see non-Illinois license plates.

When we used to visit my grandma in southern Illinois, I my dad would go to great lengths to avoid Chicago. If you just mentioned Chicago, he would kind of shake.

[Documad]

After years of being huddled in hallways at school during drills and the real deal, I can't be bothered to even go to my basement when there is a tornado warning. It's funny how you get complacent about whatever you live with.

We had one touch down last week. A guy I know found a whole tree in his backyard, but it was left exactly in the middle of his yard so it didn't hurt his fence. He doesn't know whose tree it is.

My most vivid childhood memory is of watching my swingset leave where it was cemented down and fly over our fence and out of our yard.

[Qdrop]

Whereas Frontline did a whole show on how it's only a matter of time for coastal CA.

ohh...i gotta go find that...

[Documad]

ohh...i gotta go find that...
It was an old one I got on VHS at the library. I remember it because it shook me up. Frontline sometimes does that.

[Qdrop]

It was an old one I got on VHS at the library. I remember it because it shook me up. Frontline sometimes does that.

yeah, it's from 1987.
i checked.

they don't have it "watch online" like they do with the newer ones...dammit.


you want a frontline that will shake you up....watch "the secret history of credit cards"...scandalous!!

[hardnox71]

there are about a million new condos going in downtown. :p
My friend has started calling it Chi-condo.


Didn't chicago have a big ass fire?
OMG! The entire city burns to the ground just one fucking time and no one can seem to let it go. :D


I had a nap in an Inglewood motel between flights coming baclk from Australia two years ago.
:eek:
I would have slept in the airport. I wouldn't go anywhere near Inglewood and I grew up on the South Side of Chicago. Paul Jones, you so ka-raaaazyyyyyy!

[Nuzzolese]

I always have something to do. In fact I have difficulty cramming in all the stuff I do. Maybe what I do is boring to most people. It most likely is.

Come live in Dog Patch West Virginia or Rat's Ass Illinois, either way I'm going to be constantly doing things.

Which sounds worse, Dog Patch or Rat's Ass? And how would they compare to Goober? There's a town in North Cackalacky called Bland. Or maybe it's Virginia. Once you're there I don't think it makes a difference.

[hardnox71]

It's funny how you get complacent about whatever you live with.
I remember when I used to duck when I heard gunshots. Now I try to figure out what kind of gun is being used as I walk down the street.

That is seriously fucked up.

[Qdrop]

I always have something to do. In fact I have difficulty cramming in all the stuff I do. Maybe what I do is boring to most people. It most likely is.

Come live in Dog Patch West Virginia or Rat's Ass Illinois, either way I'm going to be constantly doing things.

Which sounds worse, Dog Patch or Rat's Ass? And how would they compare to Goober? There's a town in North Cackalacky called Bland. Or maybe it's Virginia. Once you're there I don't think it makes a difference.

how much candy have you eaten today?
soda pop?

[abcdefz]

i was almost killed in forrest fire last year.....coming home from work.





...I was almost bored to death in Indiana.

[Nuzzolese]

how much candy have you eaten today?
soda pop?

Why do you talk to me like I'm 5 years old?

[Qdrop]

Why do you talk to me like I'm 5 years old?

cause your mind wanders and rambles like one....


sorry....


no flames...

[buddylee]

I've lived in Bay Area all my life I can only recall 3 big earthquakes , Only 1 caused problems in my city.

1 reason its great 300+ day of sun shine.
never having to where long pants
Prop 215

..... now LA is like a red headed stepchild

[abcdefz]

these are rare-sporatic things.... not comparable to the seasonal wildfires and earthqueakes you deal with, the smog,....among other things.



I've lived in major areas of California since 1989 (with a few months' break in Canada)... I've felt one earthquake which was more like an earth-wave; pretty exhilirating, nothing broken. (The earthquake I didn't feel damaged the Bay Area extensively.)

Other than that... nothing. It's not like there's some sword of danger constantly hanging over Californians' heads and we're dodging peril all the time.

I've known about the probably inevitible "Big One" earthquake since I was a child; hasn't happened yet. If half of California had cleared out 30 years ago and left all those areas desolate... well, I guess it's a gamble, but, still.

*shrugs*




And if California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this motel will be standing
Until I pay my bill.

Don't the sun look angry through the trees?
Don't the trees look like crucified theives?

[sam i am]

and that's a big part of what i'm talking about...

it's not a matter of if...but WHEN!

it will happen...we KNOW it will happen....the people that live there KNOW it will happen.

but they stay.

and then it will happen.
and thousands upon thousands will die.
a national distaster.

news clips of the wounded standing in the streets with there children screaming "WHY..WHY....I CAN'T FIND MY CHILD! WHY DID THIS HAPPEN...HELP US...WE NEED AID!"

as if they never saw this coming.....

Exactamundo. :(

[abcdefz]

Is that what you consider a plus?


I grew up with the LA Rams (my Dad had season tickets to the Coliseum) and we'd go see 'em all the time. Lawrence McCutcheon, Jack Snow, etc. - now there were some football teams!

Even when the Raiders played there in the '80's, it was great.

BUT...the Northridge earthquake shook me into the reality of what it was like to live in LA - people die from that shit and THERE"S NO FUCKING WARNING!

Good luck loving your life there until one day you have a 9.0 and 100's of THOUSANDS of deaths.....






...I guess playing Earthquake Odds is pretty safe, is the thing. I've had a friend killed accidentally in Missouri on a highway and a brother in law die accidentally in a hospital in Minnesota; I don't know a single person who's ever been personally bruised by an earthquake, even.

[K-nowledge]

I've lived in a lot of places. Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana, Texas, North Carolina, Germany. I was born in So. Cal and came back 15 years ago. California is the most beautifully diverse state in the country. We've got the mountains, the deserts, the beaches. There is just sooo much to do. As far as being complacent, Ive lived in the same place since I moved back. If thats not complacancy I do not know what is. The music scene is awesome. Every band in the world loves to play here and if your into some obscure band chances are that band will play in the L.A. area. California is huge too. Like these fires going on, it's all over the news but compared to the size of So.Cal it only effects a small portion of the area. The only effect I get are some pretty killer sunsets, although there are a few ashes floating around. I actually like earthquakes, sick huh. They are far and few between. Oh, and so. cal will not fall into the ocean from "the big one". Too much Hollywood in on that folklore. The whole country is beautiful. California just has it all, wrapped up in it's own package. If anyone has an itch to come to Ca. visit different parts of the state to get a better picture. San Francisco, L.A., Tahoe, just to name a few. And if you have never been outside Ca. , go visit the rest of our beautiful country.

[sam i am]

...I guess playing Earthquake Odds is pretty safe, is the thing. I've had a friend killed accidentally in Missouri on a highway and a brother in law die accidentally in a hospital in Minnesota; I don't know a single person who's ever been personally bruised by an earthquake, even.


Yeah...tell that to the cop who rode his motorcycle off the freeway overramp that had been taken out by the earthquake. I'm sure his family was sobered by the fact that THEY weren't BRUISED. :mad:

How about the people who were CRUSHED to DEATH by the second story of their apartment coming down on the first story at 4:30am in the morning with no lights available to see their way clear of the death?

Earthquake odds are great except that YOU NEVER SEE IT COMING!! At least with hurricanes and tornadoes and shit you get a warning. An earthquake can rip your life apart in a few seconds and you never know it's coming.

Oh, BTW, did I mention YOU NEVER FUCKING KNOW WHEN IT'S COMING!!!

Sit back in your "relative" safety and comfort and feel like it can never happen to you....

Until one hits and your home is red tagged and you lose all of your possessions and your job is shut down for weeks on end and you're forced to live with your stupid-ass in-laws for a year while you try to recover from the trauma of dealing with the stupid-ass earthquake.

Sorry for the anger, but I'm sick and tired of the smugness of "I'll play the odds and even if something happens everyone else in the country will bail me out."

Maybe next time we won't.

At least I don't have to worry about that shit here in Vegas.

[K-nowledge]

Vegas gets earthquakes too.

[enree erzweglle]

Yeah...tell that to the cop who rode his motorcycle off the freeway overramp that had been taken out by the earthquake. I'm sure his family was sobered by the fact that THEY weren't BRUISED.

How about the people who were CRUSHED to DEATH by the second story of their apartment coming down on the first story at 4:30am in the morning with no lights available to see their way clear of the death?
I took the point to be that comparatively, more people are hurt/killed in other disasters in life than they are by the CA earthquakes.

I don't think anyone is saying that people didn't die in/directly because of the earthquake/s.

[Documad]

How about those kids who were crushed when the deck they were partying on in Chicago collapsed? That one shook me up because I've been on overcrowded decks at parties.

[g-mile7]

Your state is the home of such constant ecological crisis....

epic forest fires every fuckin season, earthquakes semi constantly (with huge ones every few years), mudslides....

it IS only a matter of time before the BIG ONE hits and levels most of central CA....

the big cities are full of smog/pollution...overcrowding, heavy traffic that's only getting worse.
Arnold is your governor...

i don't get it....why do so many live there?....
that state fuckin blows....

what's the draw? why live there?





i feel the same about southern costal regions in the US....

why live in places that put your lives in semi-constant peril?



If i had the money I be out of this state...but I dotn cuz the money I have California takes it so I never ahve enough to leave but just enough to stay. I dont like California, bunch of rich ass, wanna be ghetto people or gang bangin hood poppin ignite people. I live here but not by choice really. But New York has simlar problems too my friend, at least the main parts just like California does, at least the main parts.




Note:My orgins lie in Baton Rouge, La

[buddylee]

If i had the money I be out of this state...but I dotn cuz the money I have California takes it so I never ahve enough to leave but just enough to stay. I dont like California, bunch of rich ass, wanna be ghetto people or gang bangin hood poppin ignite people. I live here but not by choice really. But New York has simlar problems too my friend, at least the main parts just like California does, at least the main parts.




Note:My orgins lie in Baton Rouge, La


Don't you live in Sac? I would want to leave thier too its hot as HELL

[g-mile7]

Don't you live in Sac? I would want to leave thier too its hot as HELL


the 916 all day......but the people round this area are either two things: rich snooby wannabe people who care only for themselves or ghetto folks who dont care bout anyone in general let alone themselves...rare to find someone, espcially a female, who is real and genuine and that you can apporach without worry of what might be taken from that apporach.

[Qdrop]

How about those kids who were crushed when the deck they were partying on in Chicago collapsed? That one shook me up because I've been on overcrowded decks at parties.

hey, wasn't that an episode of ER?

[Nuzzolese]

If I had the money to afford living there as comfortably as I am living here now, and my family was around there, the only reason I wouldn't want to move there is because I would probably constantly be depressed over being fat, pale and ugly. Here, I can cope with myself.

[Echewta]

Frontline in 1987 huh? *looks at calendar*

[Lowjams]

I currently live in Pittsburgh. Id love to move to La.

[hardnox71]

How about those kids who were crushed when the deck they were partying on in Chicago collapsed? That one shook me up because I've been on overcrowded decks at parties.
Wow. It didn't occur to me that that was nationwide news. When that first happened there was a huge crackdown on building owners who have neglected to have their building inspected. It was big. There were inspectors running around inspecting all kinds of porches and walk-ups.

Then, about a month and a half ago, a little girl on the south side was on her third floor porch leaning against the bannister when it broke and she fell to her death. Come to find out that that building was supposedly 'inspected' a couple of weeks before. So now there's a HUGE shakeup in the city's inspection department.

[abcdefz]

Wow. It didn't occur to me that that was nationwide news. When that first happened there was a huge crackdown on building owners who have neglected to have their building inspected. It was big. There were inspectors running around inspecting all kinds of porches and walk-ups.

Then, about a month and a half ago, a little girl on the south side was on her third floor porch leaning against the bannister when it broke and she fell to her death. Come to find out that that building was supposedly 'inspected' a couple of weeks before. So now there's a HUGE shakeup in the city's inspection department.




...see, I'm, like, waaaayyy more concerned about preventable stuff like that than running scared from every possible but-it-could!-happen boogeyman out there.

Gosh... better not move to northern Idaho or Washington.... they had a volcano blow up once!

I hear a long time ago, the whole world was flooded. I think we should all get off.































This planet. Get off this planet. You know what I mean.

[Qdrop]

yes, yes....it will never happen.

and the levee's in NO will never break and flood the city during a hurricane either-....

er...wait....

[TAL]

This planet. Get off this planet. You know what I mean.
Before the Vogons blow it up.

[cosmo105]

Don't panic.

[wanton wench]

it would be fun to live here (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/wantonwench/florida.jpg)

[abcdefz]

Before the Vogons blow it up.



Don't panic.





Three pints and some salty snacks, to go!!!

[hardnox71]

it would be fun to live here (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/wantonwench/florida.jpg)
That is great. LMAO.

[beastieangel01]

I loved the people. I loved how it was easy to be healthy. I loved how there were always things happening from a music/arts perspective.

I loved that I was never cold in California. I loved that I could plan a day and not have to make weather a factor.

I loved that I could get to extremes in activities (beaches v. mountains) easily. I loved Big Sir.


There is never nothing to do in Los Angeles. I can drive to San Diego, San Fransico, or Las Vegas in the same day to do completely different things. The weather rocks. Somewhere, there is a store that has what I'm looking for and a resturant that has what I want to eat. Do I want to put skiis or a surfboard on my car today? Bike? Paraglide? Go dogfight in a WWII plane? Way too much to do compared to most places in the country that I've been to.

Every place has its problems. The fires here are something that will bug us for a week or so and then it will be over.



I second all of this. Every place has it's problems, we have earthquakes, others had hurricanes or tornados, etc.

Also, I find it hilarious when people are like "OMG aren't you sick or scared of earthquakes?"

Huge problem causing earthquakes really don't happen all that often. In my life, I've been through one huge earthquake and that's it. There's small ones sometimes, but they tend to just wake me up because it rocks the bed just slightly, then I roll over and fall back asleep. And even those are pretty rare.

I love California, except when most of us voted for the Terminator. I was pretty pissed at that. BUT OTHERWISE I love it. Yeah.

Oh, and housing costs. Yeah, it's high and that sucks, but you really are paying for your location, plain and simple. With all these perks, the prices are what they are. I am willing to pay it because it rocks here.

[Auton]

the 916 all day......but the people round this area are either two things: rich snooby wannabe people who care only for themselves or ghetto folks who dont care bout anyone in general let alone themselves...rare to find someone, espcially a female, who is real and genuine and that you can apporach without worry of what might be taken from that apporach.

aaaaahahaha someone's bitter ;)






oh, and Ca > La

[abcdefz]

the 916 all day......but the people round this area are either two things: rich snooby wannabe people who care only for themselves or ghetto folks who dont care bout anyone in general let alone themselves...rare to find someone, espcially a female, who is real and genuine and that you can apporach without worry of what might be taken from that apporach.




Whoa. Maybe you should hang out in midtown some. What you described sure wasn't my experience with 95% of the folks I knew.

[Mike k]

Hot chicks that live there.

[Auton]

Whoa. Maybe you should hang out in midtown some. What you described sure wasn't my experience with 95% of the folks I knew.

he's exaggerating a whole lot. i live in the same city that he does and it's not that bad.

but maybe that's because i'm a rich snooby wannabe who isnt genuine or easy to approach (but not as bad as the girls here!) ;)

[Audielicious]

I've lived in California for twenty of my twenty five years of existence and I fuckin' hate it.

[sam i am]

Vegas gets earthquakes too.

NOTHING like the crap in Cali. The worst earthquake EVER recorded in Vegas was a 5.0.

Now, take that and magnify it by, like, 10,000. Put yourself in a waterglobe and shake it as hard as you can. You'll get a clue what it's like to be in a "6.7" with a slip-strike fault that thrusts upwards instead of sideways (the kind that are "fun and rollly!" Wheeee! :rolleyes: ).

Then come back and tell me how bad it can be in Vegas. Please.

[sam i am]

*hug*

Thanks. That and Twain's (corner of Coldwater Cyn. & Ventura Blvd.) and Carney's and Cupid's and Tommy's are the ONLY things I miss about LA. Maybe going to Magic Mountain, but that's really Valencia, not LA.

[sam i am]

...see, I'm, like, waaaayyy more concerned about preventable stuff like that than running scared from every possible but-it-could!-happen boogeyman out there.

Gosh... better not move to northern Idaho or Washington.... they had a volcano blow up once!

I hear a long time ago, the whole world was flooded. I think we should all get off.































This planet. Get off this planet. You know what I mean.

Really. A "boogeyman," eh? OK. When your ass gets hits with another one that kills someone close to you, don't come looking for any fucking sympathy, cuz it's just a "boogeyman."






Idiot. :D

[sam i am]

I've lived in California for twenty of my twenty five years of existence and I fuckin' hate it.

Yep. (y) :cool: :)

[Auton]

man. you must have lived inside of a faultline or something... i've experienced a noticeable earthquake (in the "oh ho! an earthquake! won't you look at that!" sense) about 2 or 3 times in my entire life here. oh, sorry if i'm being "smug" actually being content where i live... there's no 100%-safe-area to live in the entire world. OH NO LOOK OUT THERE'S ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE LIKE THERE WAS 5 MINUTES AGO

[Audielicious]

man. you must have lived inside of a faultline or something... i've experienced a noticeable earthquake (in the "oh ho! an earthquake! won't you look at that!" sense) about 2 or 3 times in my entire life here. oh, sorry if i'm being "smug" actually being content where i live... there's no 100%-safe-area to live in the entire world. OH NO LOOK OUT THERE'S ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE LIKE THERE WAS 5 MINUTES AGO
My brother and I were talking about how we're gonna be screwed once Sacramento experiences a huge earthquake. Living through the '89 earthquake of S.F. was crazy enough.

[sam i am]

man. you must have lived inside of a faultline or something... i've experienced a noticeable earthquake (in the "oh ho! an earthquake! won't you look at that!" sense) about 2 or 3 times in my entire life here. oh, sorry if i'm being "smug" actually being content where i live... there's no 100%-safe-area to live in the entire world. OH NO LOOK OUT THERE'S ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE LIKE THERE WAS 5 MINUTES AGO


Idiot.

I lived three miles from the epicenter of the Northridge earthquake.

I also lived through the '72 Sylmar earthquake, where the Dam above the Valley nearly burst and flooded the crap out of about 150,000 people living there at the time.

Shut up if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, K? :D

[sam i am]

My brother and I were talking about how we're gonna be screwed once Sacramento experiences a huge earthquake. Living through the '89 earthquake of S.F. was crazy enough.

Amen. Hope you NEVER have to experience another one like that.

Stay out of Cali and you won't.

[Auton]

Idiot.

I lived three miles from the epicenter of the Northridge earthquake.

I also lived through the '72 Sylmar earthquake, where the Dam above the Valley nearly burst and flooded the crap out of about 150,000 people living there at the time.

Shut up if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, K? :D

fuck you, moron. you act like california is the only place in the world that has earthquakes.

"Stay out of Cali and you won't?" disphit.

[sam i am]

fuck you, moron. you act like california is the only place in the world that has earthquakes.

"Stay out of Cali and you won't?" disphit.

Nice comeback. I put down facts and you have NOTHING to say.

[Auton]

you put down facts?

"OH YEAH, WELL THERE WAS A BIG EARTHQUAKE IN 1975!!! AND 1982!!! OH OH AND DONT FORGET THAT ONE IN 1906!!!"

oh you sure told me! I dont want to spend the time researching every damn earthquake that has happened outside of california, so therefore i cant prove it's happened! see folks!? only in california will you get killed in a natural disaster! thanks dude, you totally just saved the lives of everyone one else in the united states!

[sam i am]

you put down facts?

"OH YEAH, WELL THERE WAS A BIG EARTHQUAKE IN 1975!!! AND 1982!!! OH OH AND DONT FORGET THAT ONE IN 1906!!!"

oh you sure told me! I dont want to spend the time researching every damn earthquake that has happened outside of california, so therefore i cant prove it's happened! see folks!? only in california will you get killed in a natural disaster! thanks dude, you totally just saved the lives of everyone one else in the united states!

Oh just shut it. I have no personal beef with you. I just can't stand the way everyone says how great Cali is, then WHEN the BIg One hits, you'll want the rest of the US to come bail your punk-asses out. Well, you had 100 years of fucking warnings, and people DIED during the 1994 (26 major earthquakes), 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005 earthquakes. That's right, people have died EVERY FUCKING YEAR from earthquakes in Cali and yet you tards continue to live there in your fantasyland of "we're safe, we'll play earthquake odds."

Goddam marroons.

[K-nowledge]

Why don't you get off your "I hate Cali." bullshit, man. We get your fucking point. No matter where you live, no place on earth is safe from a natural disaster. By the way, Nevada ranks third in the U.S. in frequency of earthquakes behind Cali. and Alaska.

[beastieangel01]

Stay out of Cali and you won't.

because when you move somewhere else, you can get in the path of hurricanes, or tornados.

Do you think the residents are a bunch of punk asses because they live below sea level and should have known better?

[TurdBerglar]

why is this whole looking at other females and fatasizeing about them such a big deal? it's nothing more than a fantasy.

[tracky]

why is this whole looking at other females and fatasizeing about them such a big deal? it's nothing more than a fantasy.

heh way to change the subject ;)

[Auton]

haha

[TurdBerglar]

ah man

[Qdrop]

see, you know what's hypocritical about many of these californian's statements (cosmo, echewta, etc)....is they probably have the exact opposite opinion on global warming.

when i or others talk about how it's geologically all-but-proven that a big one will hit and cause untold damage....they roll thier eyes .."yeah whatever....like i'm gonna sit around be afraid of what might happen.."

but if you bring up global warming with these same people, thier whole philosophy suddenly changes...
global warming is still riddled with questions and uncertainties...it's cause, it's extent, and how much we can change is under great debate....
yet they would respond "yeah...but why take the chance? we should take action now...irregardless...before it's too late....we have to protect ourselves for the future, blah blah blah...."

the irony....

[sam i am]

see, you know what's hypocritical about many of these californian's statements (cosmo, echewta, etc)....is they probably have the exact opposite opinion on global warming.

when i or others talk about how it's geologically all-but-proven that a big one will hit and cause untold damage....they roll thier eyes .."yeah whatever....like i'm gonna sit around be afraid of what might happen.."

but if you bring up global warming with these same people, thier whole philosophy suddenly changes...
global warming is still riddled with questions and uncertainties...it's cause, it's extent, and how much we can change is under great debate....
yet they would respond "yeah...but why take the chance? we should take action now...irregardless...before it's too late....we have to protect ourselves for the future, blah blah blah...."

the irony....

Amen, brother.

And, BTW, even IF Nevada is ranked third for earthquakes, the MAGNITUDE of the quakes is what matters. Largest Southern NV earthquake on record : 5.2 in recorded history. Largest in So. Cal (where 20 MILLION people live) : 7.9.

Do the math before you idiots who posted before post again.

[kll]

Your state is the home of such constant ecological crisis....

epic forest fires every fuckin season, earthquakes semi constantly (with huge ones every few years), mudslides....

it IS only a matter of time before the BIG ONE hits and levels most of central CA....

the big cities are full of smog/pollution...overcrowding, heavy traffic that's only getting worse.
Arnold is your governor...

i don't get it....why do so many live there?....
that state fuckin blows....

what's the draw? why live there?

i feel the same about southern costal regions in the US....

why live in places that put your lives in semi-constant peril?

leveling central california isn't much... it's the bowels of the earth as far as i am concerned and there's not too much to level from bakersfield to stockton... it would do us a favor...

how can you not love the fact that you are on the coast at the beach one moment, in the redwood forest another moment, skiing in the mountains the next... low humidity, lovely weather, seasons, desert, beach, lakes... from plastic boobs in l.a. to granolas in humboldt...

[beastieangel01]

Amen, brother.

And, BTW, even IF Nevada is ranked third for earthquakes, the MAGNITUDE of the quakes is what matters. Largest Southern NV earthquake on record : 5.2 in recorded history. Largest in So. Cal (where 20 MILLION people live) : 7.9.

Do the math before you idiots who posted before post again.

Say thank you for all the water that the rest of us give you while living in the middle of the desert. <3

[K-nowledge]

[/QUOTE}And, BTW, even IF Nevada is ranked third for earthquakes, the MAGNITUDE of the quakes is what matters. Largest Southern NV earthquake on record : 5.2 in recorded history. Largest in So. Cal (where 20 MILLION people live) : 7.9.

Do the math before you idiots who posted before post again.[/QUOTE]



Chill out with your "idiot", "Goddam marroons", talk. I've done the math and know Cali. gets larger earthquakes. Never said they didn't. Just proving a point that nobody is safe from a natural disaster. I actually visit Vagas often( another good thing about L.A., Vegas is just a 4-1/2 hour drive away) and like it. Yeah you get better traffic, plenty of jobs(especially if you're in construction)but if it wasn't for a/c that valley would be tough to live in half the year. By the way, right now is probably some of the best weather you get. I was just there a week ago. Nice! Anyways, sam. calm down before you have an aneurysm. :)

[kll]

There's even earthquakes in Indiana. There's potential for one in NYC. It's all over, not just the West.

[Nuzzolese]

State Snobbery. Because immodest, boastful, national pride just isn't exclusive enough.

When some loud braggart tries to put me down
And says his school is great
I tell him right away
Now what’s the matter buddy
Ain’t you heard of my school
It’s number one in the state

[Qdrop]

There's even earthquakes in Indiana. There's potential for one in NYC. It's all over, not just the West.

yes, but let's be realistic.
the fault lines under NY and Indiana are barely active, if at all...

compared to those in Cali...

i mean...come ON now!

[kll]

yes, but let's be realistic.
the fault lines under NY and Indiana are barely active, if at all...

compared to those in Cali...

i mean...come ON now!


haha.

[sam i am]

And, BTW, even IF Nevada is ranked third for earthquakes, the MAGNITUDE of the quakes is what matters. Largest Southern NV earthquake on record : 5.2 in recorded history. Largest in So. Cal (where 20 MILLION people live) : 7.9.

Do the math before you idiots who posted before post again.



Chill out with your "idiot", "Goddam marroons", talk. I've done the math and know Cali. gets larger earthquakes. Never said they didn't. Just proving a point that nobody is safe from a natural disaster. I actually visit Vagas often( another good thing about L.A., Vegas is just a 4-1/2 hour drive away) and like it. Yeah you get better traffic, plenty of jobs(especially if you're in construction)but if it wasn't for a/c that valley would be tough to live in half the year. By the way, right now is probably some of the best weather you get. I was just there a week ago. Nice! Anyways, sam. calm down before you have an aneurysm. :)


It's just a hot topic for me. I'll chill....thanks for your patience....sorry for the language :o

Anyhow, yep. Vegas is awesome this time of year.

Say thank you for all the water that the rest of us give you while living in the middle of the desert.

AND, BTW, we get our allocation from the Colorado River, which we give you Californians the surplus of every year to keep you alive.

I agree with the air conditioning thing, but Hoover Dam makes our hydroelectrcity cheap and plentiful.

[cookiepuss]

dude. I can't beleive you guys have been getting all heated over fault lines and whose at fault.


Listen, I was born here and god willing, I'll die here. That's all there is to it for me.

[beastieangel01]

Sam, I not saying that none of us in California get help with water. I am just pointing out that every place has it's potential problems.

So, since all us Californians are so "dumb" for living here, should the ENTIRE population come move to Las Vegas or NY instead since they are so safe?

[adam_f]

Contrary to popular belief, there are other smaller cities in the U.S. besides Vegas and N.Y.

[Bob]

we can't all fit in new england, stay where you are everyone

[beastieangel01]

Contrary to popular belief, there are other smaller cities in the U.S. besides Vegas and N.Y.

I was being an ass. I am not that dense, sweetheart.

Not like your Mother, anyway ;)

[CiaoBella]

Do ya'll really eat granola that much?

[g-mile7]

I think its moronic to even argue bout this, California is no more dangerous then the rest of the United States let alone world so why are we arguing bout saftey and shit?....sam I am whatever....what is your beef/point? Because if your going try and make an argument please refrain from stating opinions as fact and then dissing people when they refute that. I love how you say you "have no personel beef" and then call Auton a marroon....that is a contridiction my friend.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by beastieangel01
I was being an ass. I am not that dense, sweetheart.

Not like your Mother, anyway ;)

I know you were kidding. I'm not a fucking retard, honey. ;)

I did get retarded with your mother last night.

[cookiepuss]

So, since all us Californians are so "dumb" for living here, should the ENTIRE population come move to Las Vegas or NY instead since they are so safe?

actually, now that I think about it...... this thread is great! everyone should get the fuck out of california so that those of us who were born here can actually afford to live here again.

The earthquakes are terrible! get the fuck out! you're all gonna die! California = bad! Mu-hahahahaha!*rubs hands together maniachally*

[g-mile7]

actually, now that I think about it...... this thread is great! everyone should get the fuck out of california so that those of us who were born here can actually afford to live here again.

The earthquakes are terrible! get the fuck out! you're all gonna die! California = bad! Mu-hahahahaha!*rubs hands together maniachally*


I dont living here but its not bad for the reason some these people listing, some these people just arguing to be arguing.As usual.... (n)

[beastieangel01]

I know you were kidding. I'm not a fucking retard, honey. ;)

I did get retarded with your mother last night.

oh, you two and your drool buckets. It's just SO cute ;)

I would have tried to meet up with you too, but your Mother wanted me to tie her down or something like that.

[cookiepuss]

I dont living here but its not bad for the reason some these people listing, some these people just arguing to be arguing.As usual.... (n)

word. for a second thre I just thought I could make the silliness work to my advantage. doh.

[g-mile7]

word. for a second thre I just thought I could make the silliness work to my advantage. doh.


I like the sterotyping of California and it's people, that right there shows the lack of intelligence going on here. Given that sterotyping is the lowest form of stupidity

[adam_f]

Originally posted by beastieangel01
oh, you two and your drool buckets. It's just SO cute ;)

I would have tried to meet up with you too, but your Mother wanted me to tie her down or something like that.

Fuck. I can't come back from that.

Um, your mom bought me dairy queen. Yeah. WHAT?!!!??!

[Qdrop]

I did get retarded with your mother last night.

meaning you wore padded helmets, slurred your speech and had a difficult time functioning in society and understanding many rudimentary concepts?

sounds like a gas....

[Auton]

adam i stuckk my tee tee in your moms poo ppoo last night

[beastieangel01]

Fuck. I can't come back from that.

Um, your mom bought me dairy queen. Yeah. WHAT?!!!??!

This is why you love me. Because I rule, and you, as you admitted, drool. <3 :D

[sam i am]

actually, now that I think about it...... this thread is great! everyone should get the fuck out of california so that those of us who were born here can actually afford to live here again.

The earthquakes are terrible! get the fuck out! you're all gonna die! California = bad! Mu-hahahahaha!*rubs hands together maniachally*

shhhhh....cookiepuss....you'll ruin my entire plan to take over California real estate and become a baron........ ;) :p