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Junker

10-11-2005, 11:03 AM

I'd like to know how's your expectations about the World Cup next year. I know Americans arent big fans of footbal (soccer) but since there are people from all over the world in this MB I think a discussion about the most popular game in the world would be nice. I want to know if you guys think your country will do fine on the Cup and how long you think they will go. Also what players you expect will be decisive on the matches and anything related to football.

As a Brazilian football geek I gotta say, Brasil, go get'em and bring the "taça" (trophy) for the 6th time. :)

PS: I think the US team a very good team. They're doing just fine the past years. (y)

TAL

10-11-2005, 11:06 AM

This brings back lovely memories of threads named EURO 2004.

Junker

10-11-2005, 11:09 AM

Where are ya from TAL?

EDIT: I dont know where Indoors is locate......sorry :o

TonsOfFun

10-11-2005, 11:14 AM

Englands gonna win.

I think Germany will do a good job. And the fact thats its gonna be an England v Germany final means the chant, 'two world wars and one world cup' will have to be changed!

There is only one team in Europe (worth mentioning)

I've applied for World Cup final tickets twice and have been rejected both times (they are doing like a lottery). Now I don't really have the money aside to make such a purchase anymore :(

I hope the Rep. Of Ireland qualify. I've always liked them and Holland are a team I like to see do well, all after England obviously.

roosta

10-11-2005, 11:17 AM

i really, REALLY hope Ireland qualify, world cups are a million times better when your own team are involved. but still, ill enjoy it regardless.

havnt a clue who'll win...hmm...too early. deffo not england, sowee

Junker

10-11-2005, 11:20 AM

Extra Cheese

10-11-2005, 11:32 AM

USA is gonna kick everyone's ass then all these soccer fans are gonna be mad because soccer isnt popular in this country and yet the red, white and blue still manages to win the whole thing.

Junker

10-11-2005, 12:04 PM

USA is gonna kick everyone's ass then all these soccer fans are gonna be mad because soccer isnt popular in this country and yet the red, white and blue still manages to win the whole thing.

I dont think so. Even having a good team I dont think US will do a long way on the Cup......sorry :o

Parkey

10-11-2005, 12:23 PM

If England actually play to the level they are capable of, I don't see any country other than Brazil causing too much of a problem. That said; it's England, so I expect a first round exit...

Junker

10-11-2005, 12:29 PM

After Argentina, England is the second team that I like to see matching against Brasil.

Parkey

10-11-2005, 12:34 PM

England/Argentina/Brazil... Any combination of those 3 teams always makes for a great match.

Extra Cheese

10-11-2005, 01:07 PM

I dont think so. Even having a good team I dont think US will do a long way on the Cup......sorry :o

well when the time comes next year The U.S. will show that they are one of the powerhouses in international soccer.

Junker

10-11-2005, 01:11 PM

England/Argentina/Brazil... Any combination of those 3 teams always makes for a great match.

WORD.......

And Im curious.....What team is England traditional opponent? You know Brasil and Argentina cant stand each other........I'd like to know what are the games in Europe with most rivalship

Junker

10-11-2005, 01:12 PM

well when the time comes next year The U.S. will show that they are one of the powerhouses in international soccer.

It would be a nice surprise..........Btw, are you a footbal fan?

boys_beastie

10-11-2005, 01:14 PM

USA is gonna kick everyone's ass then all these soccer fans are gonna be mad because soccer isnt popular in this country and yet the red, white and blue still manages to win the whole thing.

what you on about? it is popular! and the USA's only good players are freddy adu and landon donovan and two strikers cant win you a world cup.

and englands main rival is germany and behind that argentina

Junker

10-11-2005, 01:16 PM

what you on about? it is popular! and the USA's only good players are freddy adu and landon donovan and two strikers cant win you a world cup.

This Donovan are an excellent player (y)

Extra Cheese

10-11-2005, 01:25 PM

what you on about? it is popular! and the USA's only good players are freddy adu and landon donovan and two strikers cant win you a world cup.

and englands main rival is germany and behind that argentina

no soccer is not very popular here,,, they were forced to play their qualifier against mexico in columbus, ohio in order to not have their fans outnumbered by the mexican fans. soccer is never on regular TV and gets no coverage in sports highlights.

the U.S. has more than just donovan, and adu so far hasnt shown much in the mls or the U-17 matches his been a part of.

i'm telling you USA is gonna kick ass

Junker

10-11-2005, 01:45 PM

no soccer is not very popular here,,, they were forced to play their qualifier against mexico in columbus, ohio in order to not have their fans outnumbered by the mexican fans. soccer is never on regular TV and gets no coverage in sports highlights.

the U.S. has more than just donovan, and adu so far hasnt shown much in the mls or the U-17 matches his been a part of.

i'm telling you USA is gonna kick ass

I hope so. This way footbal can gain more fans in US (y)

synch

10-11-2005, 01:51 PM

Italy will start off by playing like shit, then at some point (probably the semi's) will start playing proper football and get eliminated by Togo.

Junker

10-11-2005, 02:17 PM

Italy will start off by playing like shit, then at some point (probably the semi's) will start playing proper football and get eliminated by Togo.

LOL

TonsOfFun

10-11-2005, 03:09 PM

I would start to hate football if America won the world cup.

I'd be forced to beleive it'd be some sort of propaganda stunt by Dubya.

Parkey

10-11-2005, 03:32 PM

Junker

10-13-2005, 06:12 AM

Yeah; England and Germany is a HUGE rivalry, as is any of the home nations like Scotland, Wales etc. But Argentina is always a massive deal and when we get to play Brazil the whole country gets hyped.

I FUCKING LOVE THE WORLD CUP!

The World Cup > Olympics :D

I was watching the Euro qualifiers and I gotta say dudes. Even Im being Brazilian and having a lotta excellent players on our national team, for me, Zidane is the best player in the world!!! This guy is amazing.........Im a very big fan of him. I just hate him when I remember the '98 final (well, lets forget this). But seriously, his goal yesterday was simply awsome.

Junker

10-13-2005, 06:15 AM

Yeah; England and Germany is a HUGE rivalry, as is any of the home nations like Scotland, Wales etc. But Argentina is always a massive deal and when we get to play Brazil the whole country gets hyped.

I FUCKING LOVE THE WORLD CUP!

England x Argentina is always a good match. Do you remember that goal Maradona did against England that he passed by almost the whole English Team including the goalkeeper.......Masterpiece (y)

scotty

10-13-2005, 06:21 AM

synch

10-13-2005, 06:45 AM

Argentina is first in the group isn't it? Doubt it's that close so that they can still end fifth... is it?

Junker

10-13-2005, 07:05 AM

Australia has to beat Uruguay (or Argentina or Chile) next month to qualify. We aren't even daring to hope.

Fuck knows why the winner of the Oceania group has to beat the fifth placed South American team qualify, instead of having a direct qualification place like every other fucking group.

Australia will face Uruguay for the qualification.

And I also dont know why Oceania winner has to play against South American 5th place

Junker

10-13-2005, 07:10 AM

Argentina is first in the group isn't it? Doubt it's that close so that they can still end fifth... is it?

It was the first until yesterday. Argentina lose to Uruguay and Brasil placed first (yeah .... (y) )

But Argentina was already qualified 3-4 journeys ago I think

synch

10-13-2005, 07:19 AM

Ah, ok ;)

scotty

10-13-2005, 07:21 AM

Sorry, it was Colombia.

Uruguay, though. I hope its not a repeat of 4 years ago where we were 1-0 up after the first leg and got beaten 3-0 in Montevideo.

Or 4 years before that when we won 1-0 (?) against Iran in the away leg, and we let two goals through late in the 2nd half at home.

Junker

10-13-2005, 07:40 AM

robertson8

10-13-2005, 08:15 AM

the world cup will be ok but it will not be as good if scotland were in it :mad:
and my sympothies go out to ireland unlucky my lepricon freinds
ps england are going to get fucked senseless at the world cup

discopants

10-13-2005, 08:44 AM

You can never rule out those sneaky Germans.

Junker

10-13-2005, 01:45 PM

You can never rule out those sneaky Germans.

I dont see Germany as an obstacle. Im fear of Argentina, France and England :eek:

discopants

10-14-2005, 02:47 AM

I dont see Germany as an obstacle. Im fear of Argentina, France and England :eek:

The "home" team always does does well: England 96, France 98, Korea 02, Portugal 04. This factor coupled with their teamwork and stubborness means you can never rule out those oh-so sneaky Germans.

TonsOfFun

10-14-2005, 02:54 AM

Do you remember that goal Maradona did against England that he passed by almost the whole English Team including the goalkeeper.......Masterpiece (y)

Ha, man 1986 hurts to any english fan! When that is asked, it normally follows a smack...

discopants

10-14-2005, 02:59 AM

Ha, man 1986 hurts to any english fan! When that is asked, it normally follows a smack...

That fat hairy midget bastard Maradonna made Pete Doherty look like Cliff Richard. He was a decent player when he wasn't banging whores and shoving shitloads of coke up his nose.

synch

10-14-2005, 04:09 AM

He wasn't "decent". He was the very best. Or top three anyway.

laura

10-14-2005, 04:32 AM

Italy will start off by playing like shit, then at some point (probably the semi's) will start playing proper football and get eliminated by Togo.
sad
so real
but true!
ma questanno vi facciamo un culo così!! (credici..)

just want to know: in italy when the national football team plays a mach in a world cup streets are empty and in the summertime all the windows are open and you can hear the TVs.. so you can image to see all the friends and family watching the game..
does it happen also in your place?
if the national team plays in the afternoon people stop to work!!

laura

10-14-2005, 04:33 AM

ps: I bet my money!!its england!! (y)

discopants

10-14-2005, 04:40 AM

He wasn't "decent". He was the very best. Or top three anyway.

I know I'm going him down by calling him decent. Still a bag of shit.

titou lapraline

10-14-2005, 05:51 AM

http://http://www.icp.inpg.fr/~savario/photo/zizou-coupe.jpg

Junker

10-14-2005, 05:53 AM

Junker

10-14-2005, 06:00 AM

That fat hairy midget bastard Maradonna made Pete Doherty look like Cliff Richard. He was a decent player when he wasn't banging whores and shoving shitloads of coke up his nose.

You know, he now guests a show on an Argentine channel. The show is called "La Noche Del 10" (The Night of the 10). In the debut, lets say, episode Pelé was the main attraction. Btw, who was the best in your opinion? Pelé or Maradona? hehehehe.....
Have you ever seen the movie about Pelé? Damn, you cant imagine what he did with the ball. The guy was a magician.

Junker

10-14-2005, 06:02 AM

Ha, man 1986 hurts to any english fan! When that is asked, it normally follows a smack...

hahaha........sorry :o

But that was a fucking goal (y)

Junker

10-14-2005, 06:04 AM

The "home" team always does does well: England 96, France 98, Korea 02, Portugal 04. This factor coupled with their teamwork and stubborness means you can never rule out those oh-so sneaky Germans.

Thats true..........The home teams seem to catch the vibes and energy from their supporters

synch

10-14-2005, 06:33 AM

sad
so real
but true!
ma questanno vi facciamo un culo così!! (credici..)

just want to know: in italy when the national football team plays a mach in a world cup streets are empty and in the summertime all the windows are open and you can hear the TVs.. so you can image to see all the friends and family watching the game..
does it happen also in your place?
if the national team plays in the afternoon people stop to work!!
Guarda che io tifo per l'Italia :p

Usually people watch the games here with friends, dressed in orange and normally with large amounts of beer.

Thing is, when a european cup or world cup starts suddenly everyone is a football fan. I was watching a euro 2000 game in an irish pub and was talking to some irish people about this while the rest of the pub was stacked with people dressed in orange, their faces painted in orange and weird hats and wigs on. I told the irish people that they only got like this once every two years and that 90% of the people that were in there normally didn't even follow football. One dutch woman (dressed in orange... face painted... orange wig...) overheard us, nearly spat out her drink and gave us a guilty nod.

Every excuse is good for a party I guess...

Junker

10-14-2005, 06:48 AM

Guarda che io tifo per l'Italia :p

Usually people watch the games here with friends, dressed in orange and normally with large amounts of beer.

Thing is, when a european cup or world cup starts suddenly everyone is a football fan. I was watching a euro 2000 game in an irish pub and was talking to some irish people about this while the rest of the pub was stacked with people dressed in orange, their faces painted in orange and weird hats and wigs on. I told the irish people that they only got like this once every two years and that 90% of the people that were in there normally didn't even follow football. One dutch woman (dressed in orange... face painted... orange wig...) overheard us, nearly spat out her drink and gave us a guilty nod.

Every excuse is good for a party I guess...

Just another reason to drink beer!!! Same here, except the bars are always full of fanatic people. Everybody stops to watch the "Seleção" play

TonsOfFun

10-14-2005, 06:54 AM

The thing with Irish, most of the players come to the Premiership rather than staying in Ireland. So the Irish league never has chance to develop, but the Irish will support anythng Irish. But wouldn't want to be seen to be following the English in Anyway cus Irish really don't like English and would want see England lose at anything and probably just sink. Apart from when the British and Irish Lions are playing.

Anyway, that is why the Irish don't go crazy for it all the time. And why they like Gaelic Football. Which is crazy confusing for me!

Junker

10-14-2005, 07:32 AM

Gaelic Football. Which is crazy confusing for me!

Whats that??

TonsOfFun

10-14-2005, 08:39 AM

It's confusing.

a picture (http://simpler-solutions.net/pmachinefree/images/uploads/gaelic.JPG) paints 1000 words. They pick it up and run with it. But it round like a football and unlike Aussie Rules (I think) and American football. And they have about 8 targets to hit to get points...

It's a bit rough also.

ToucanSpam

10-14-2005, 09:15 AM

TonsOfFun

10-14-2005, 09:20 AM

Spain haven't qualified yet.

Tompz

10-14-2005, 09:47 AM

ToucanSpam

10-14-2005, 09:56 AM

Spain haven't qualified yet.
Okay.

Junker

10-14-2005, 10:58 AM

Bet your money on Sweden. We won the group of death last time, and next summer the trophy is ours.

the final:

Sweden - England

5 - 3

Goals: Ibrahimovic 3, Källström 2
Ashley Cole 3

Oh glorious Victory!

And who will eliminate Brasil?

Junker

10-14-2005, 10:59 AM

Alright, My choices for WC who's hot and who's not:

Who's Hot:

Brazil
Argentina
England
Netherlands
Germany
Spain

Who's Not:
France
Korea
Iran
Ukraine
Mexico

Those are my guesses as to who will succeed and who may crash and burn at WC 2006.

I just disagree with France. I think any team where Zidane plays is a strong team. Zidane is the Man!!! (y)

Extra Cheese

10-14-2005, 11:04 AM

USA

Junker

10-14-2005, 11:07 AM

USA

Its possible

zippo

10-14-2005, 11:52 AM

But I think Australia can beat Uruguay this year. At least im cheering for them.

nonono, weve gotta cheer for URUGUAY.

i too, dont undestand what the hell theyve gotta mix australia with southam for, but, i have alot of faith in Uruguay, i really doubt Australia can beat them, does australia really even have a football history?

watch out for Uruguay people

zippo

10-14-2005, 11:55 AM

He wasn't "decent". He was the very best. Or top three anyway.

haha i know, its like, "yes yes, he was decent, just decent"... :confused:

zippo

10-14-2005, 12:03 PM

just want to know: in italy when the national football team plays a mach in a world cup streets are empty and in the summertime all the windows are open and you can hear the TVs.. so you can image to see all the friends and family watching the game..
does it happen also in your place?
if the national team plays in the afternoon people stop to work!!

this is a south american custom just as well. in every latin american country ive lived in, world cups rule over pretty much, everything. its depressing to have to go to work or school after an early morning match where you lost,seeing everybodys faces, its contagious, or when youve got everything ready to celebrate at an afternoon/late night match and you lose, and then you go out and see the few foreigners from the winning team celebrating like animals in the streets, and everyone around them just keep walking slowly, take a glance and keep going, bitching in their heads. hehe. theres also usually never class when a national match is on, or if there is, the proffesor ends up giving class to the one idiot certified chess player or something. few things better than a world cup, no words.

zippo

10-14-2005, 12:14 PM

Thing is, when a european cup or world cup starts suddenly everyone is a football fan. I was watching a euro 2000 game in an irish pub and was talking to some irish people about this while the rest of the pub was stacked with people dressed in orange, their faces painted in orange and weird hats and wigs on. I told the irish people that they only got like this once every two years and that 90% of the people that were in there normally didn't even follow football. One dutch woman (dressed in orange... face painted... orange wig...) overheard us, nearly spat out her drink and gave us a guilty nod.

Every excuse is good for a party I guess...

this is like, THE eternal debate isnt it? but, i dont see them as, "idiots", i see it more as something positive, wouldnt you say? how beautiful and powerful is the sport of football that everyone is suddenly taken over by this inevitable excitement and magical feeling? what else exists in this world that can unite everyone under one emotion? putting aside race, age, sex, nationality? every time world cup season comes i look around and i feel more identified with the people around me, knowing them or not, i feel closer to them, and you both know youre feeling the same thing inside. theres nothing better than screaming for a goal with someone youve never met before. and i dont think they do it as an excuse to drink, and as extremely corny this is gonna sound,you can see the spirit in their eyes when theyre watching the game. football has a unique power that ive always admired. i love it, i - love- it.

TonsOfFun

10-14-2005, 12:54 PM

Terry Venables is the Aussie Football History, then he left :p

I'd like to see Aussie's V England, be nice to beat them again at any sport! HAHAHA :p

Junker

10-14-2005, 12:58 PM

Junker

10-14-2005, 12:58 PM

Where do you live zippo?

zippo

10-14-2005, 01:08 PM

Where do you live zippo?

well, at the moment im in peru but ive lived in alot of countries

synch

10-14-2005, 04:30 PM

this is like, THE eternal debate isnt it? but, i dont see them as, "idiots", i see it more as something positive, wouldnt you say? how beautiful and powerful is the sport of football that everyone is suddenly taken over by this inevitable excitement and magical feeling? what else exists in this world that can unite everyone under one emotion? putting aside race, age, sex, nationality? every time world cup season comes i look around and i feel more identified with the people around me, knowing them or not, i feel closer to them, and you both know youre feeling the same thing inside. theres nothing better than screaming for a goal with someone youve never met before. and i dont think they do it as an excuse to drink, and as extremely corny this is gonna sound,you can see the spirit in their eyes when theyre watching the game. football has a unique power that ive always admired. i love it, i - love- it.
Oh I agree, it's just the drunk women that abuse me about supporting the other team while not even knowing how offside works that pisses me off greatly.

Or the people that yell all sorts of things at the referee for giving a clear foul to the opposition. Some people just get a bit too carried away in my opinion. A true footie fan knows when his team deserved to lose or deserves to concede a foul/penalty.

Incidently, the game I saw that day was Italy - Holland in euro 2000... a game we won but definetly did not deserve to win... I never enjoyed a victory more :D

Freebasser

10-14-2005, 06:54 PM

International football is an excuse to wave flags and get drunk.

I prefer my club football. At least it's full of interesting things like transfer speculation and people don't shout "we're gonna win 5-0" before every match. Why do people always say that about England? They aren't capable of hammering even the most pathetic of teams.

titou lapraline

10-15-2005, 02:41 AM

I just disagree with France. I think any team where Zidane plays is a strong team. Zidane is the Man!!! (y)
YES, YES, YES, !!!

titou lapraline

10-15-2005, 02:47 AM

Extra Cheese

10-15-2005, 09:54 AM

International football is an excuse to wave flags and get drunk.

i thought that was the EPL

synch

10-15-2005, 09:59 AM

ToucanSpam

10-15-2005, 01:02 PM

WC has international appeal, while Champions League and all have appeal only to people in football crazy nations. I can't find 3 people who wanna shoot the shit about Man U or Chealsea's chances in the Premier League. :(

zippo

10-15-2005, 01:26 PM

WC has international appeal, while Champions League and all have appeal only to people in football crazy nations.

yes, in football crazy nations, otherwise known as, every single country except the ones in north amerika

ToucanSpam

10-15-2005, 01:38 PM

yes, in football crazy nations, otherwise known as, every single country except the ones in north amerika
That's an exaggeration and you know it.

zippo

10-15-2005, 01:57 PM

That's an exaggeration and you know it.

no, i pinky sware

seriously though, champions league is common knowledge by most male and, on a lesser amount, female sports fans (im not saying everyones a specialist on the subject but the european teams? theyre well known all around). but the thing is, there are really no "sports footballs fans", its something everyone usually enjoys, more than an interest its a custom in continents like south america especially. its not really a choice, you dont start liking football, because it will always be present around you, because if youre not into it, no doubt your brother, father or friend will be. even the countries in asia. i mean, its pretty much, the majority of the rest of the world except the countries in north amerika.

ToucanSpam

10-15-2005, 02:04 PM

no, i pinky sware

Well, since 'zippo' on the Beastie Boys Message Board said it, then it must be not only fact but Gospel. Thanks for really showing me the truth, I just feel so great now.

seriously though, champions league is common knowledge by most male and, on a lesser amount, female sports fans (im not saying everyones a specialist on the subject but the european teams? theyre well known all around). but the thing is, there are really no "sports footballs fans", its something everyone usually enjoys, more than an interest its a custom in continents like south america especially. its not really a choice, you dont start liking football, because it will always be present around you, because if youre not into it, no doubt your brother, father or friend will be. even the countries in asia. i mean, its pretty much, the majority of the rest of the world except the countries in north amerika.

hmmmmm

Okay. Damn myself for being born in North 'Amerika' though. No one around here knows who Ruud Van Nistlerooy is.

synch

10-15-2005, 09:42 PM

Nistelrooy :)

Didn't he recover from his injury in Canada? (I think it was in 2000)

How come you got interested in Football TC? And what team(s) do you support?

ToucanSpam

10-15-2005, 09:55 PM

Without the NHL to comfort me, I felt the need to tuen to something else. NFL filled the void for a while, but it ended in January of last year. So, I renewed my love for baseball, and sought out the game of 'football' because I know internationally it's huge. It took several months for me to learn the countries that do well, and I followed international play for a couple months, until Freebasser literally introduced me to the Premier League, and I found the very thing I've been searching for. Granted, hockey's back, but I'm still very much a footie fan. I know next to nothing of the other leagues, but I enjoy the English Premier League to no end.

I personally favor Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal. My favorite players (not necessarily from the Premier league) are Van Nistelrooy, Rooney, Ronaldo, Van Der Sar, Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, and when he was still playing, Gabriell Batistuta. The international teams I love to watch play are Canada (obviously), England, Argentina, the Netherlands, Ireland, Germany, and of course, Brazil. I'm still a newbie for sure with names and the rules, but I think people in NA are really missing out on footie.

synch

10-15-2005, 10:01 PM

Check out Ajax for a preview on who's going to be a top player at some other team in a couple of years :)

They have the best youth system in the world and I was fortunate enough to spend a couple of days working there last week.

The serie a and the primera division (italy and spain) are usually worth watching, if not always for thrilling footie there is usually quite a bit of drama going on as a game between the number 1 and the number 20 on the ranking is a potential upset.

ToucanSpam

10-15-2005, 10:05 PM

Unfortunetly there like one tv program on the cable I get that talks footie, and its a half hour long once a week or something like that. Packs everything into 30 minutes. Boo urns.

We go get Premier League games though, so I try to be happy with what I get. Seriously, Canada doesn't care enough about football. We have a good team but we seem to lack the fierceness of other countries. I think that's what seperates us from being in the top 30.

discopants

10-17-2005, 02:15 AM

You know, he now guests a show on an Argentine channel. The show is called "La Noche Del 10" (The Night of the 10). In the debut, lets say, episode Pelé was the main attraction. Btw, who was the best in your opinion? Pelé or Maradona? hehehehe.....
Have you ever seen the movie about Pelé? Damn, you cant imagine what he did with the ball. The guy was a magician.

Out of those two Maradonna.
The greatest ever goalie?
Gary Kelly- Oldham Athletic legend.
Van Basten wasn't bad either.
Oh yeah, Puskas was the man

synch

10-17-2005, 02:19 AM

You picked an oldham player as best goalie ever? A teensy tad biased perhaps? ;)

discopants

10-17-2005, 02:23 AM

You picked an oldham player as best goalie ever? A teensy tad biased perhaps? ;)

Deadpan: Yes, yes I am.
You never saw the mother fucker's pants.

Junker

10-17-2005, 08:50 AM

Out of those two Maradonna.
The greatest ever goalie?
Gary Kelly- Oldham Athletic legend.
Van Basten wasn't bad either.
Oh yeah, Puskas was the man

You know, between us Brazilians and Argentines will always have this dispute between "Who were the best : Pelé or Maradona?" The fact is that they were pleyers from different eras. Pele was the best in his time and Maradona was the best in his time. But I still consider Pelé the greatest cause he stablished records that will never be broken. His score marks are an example of it.

About your list: I only know Puskas. The 2 others ... :confused:

Junker

10-17-2005, 08:51 AM

well, at the moment im in peru but ive lived in alot of countries

Nice!!! (y)

paul jones

10-17-2005, 09:02 AM

I just can't wait for all the violence on the news (y)

laurie_hammy

10-17-2005, 09:05 AM

I Kick It Like Ronaldo From BraZIL

Junker

10-17-2005, 10:02 AM

I Kick It Like Ronaldo From BraZIL

hehehehe.........That was a nice reference

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 11:45 AM

USA

titou lapraline

10-17-2005, 02:07 PM

USA
LOL

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 04:57 PM

USA

ToucanSpam

10-17-2005, 05:05 PM

The Netherlands

Americans think size matters. :rolleyes:

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 05:07 PM

I like the dutch. They was some in Sheffield in 1996

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 05:07 PM

well the netherlands pose no challenge to the U.S. so talk whatver

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 05:11 PM

I used to love American culture but now I hate it. And I'm growing more and more dislike of it. Anyway, I'll say it again, the USA are one of the teams I want to see go out pretty quickly. Even though in the 90's Hawkes played for Wednesday and was a top player for both teams. But yeah, if the USA get beat every game then I'll be happy. If they make it to the quarters then I'll label them a cheats. I'm that bias already. :D

Anyway, England will win Germany in the final. After beating brazil in the semis and Argentina in Quarters.

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 05:16 PM

. Anyway, I'll say it again, the USA are one of the teams I want to see go out pretty quickly.

well it isnt going to happen. Theres gonna be a lot of people like you who are gonna be hating the U.S. cuz they're gonna go far.

ToucanSpam

10-17-2005, 05:17 PM

well the netherlands pose no challenge to the U.S. so talk whatver
Not only are the Netherlands ranked second in the world, which is 5 spots ahead of the USA, they are the most dominant team in Europe right now. Educate yourself fool.

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 05:32 PM

Netherlands dissapoint in tournaments. Colourful though.

Yeah, if England don't win it, then the Dutch would be my 2nd team I'd like to see win it.

I'm also pretty confident that England will get seeded ahead of the USA.

The latest odds have USA at 100-1 to win it and the Netherlands at 10-1 to win it.

England are at 8-1 :p (same as Germany) but I dunno if oddchecker.com is an English site which might of shorten the odds for them.

I cannot see anyone but Brazil, Argentina, Germany, England or Netherlands winning it anyway.

I also think the USA had a pretty easy group and are artificial in their placing. Part from Mexico maybe but still no where near what they used to be, pick a good side out of these to have in a group: Costa Rica, Trinada & Tobago, Guatemala and Panama.

Hollands Group had Czech and Romania in, Finland sometimes throw up surprises to.

Maybe Englands was a little easier than the Dutch with only really Poland and Austria as tough matches. Northern Ireland (I know they lost to them but we still won the group), Wales and Azerbijdasufgisagbdson are all shit really.

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 05:34 PM

yes, yes. I know. i was just being bitter.

but saying that they're the most dominant teams in europe right now isnt saying shit cuz europe is full of dissappointments right about now.

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 05:35 PM

I wouldn't say that Europe is disappointing just cus the competition is tougher.

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 05:38 PM

I also think the USA had a pretty easy group and are artificial in their placing.

so did England and they were having some trouble in qualifying

laurie_hammy

10-17-2005, 05:38 PM

Aussie's will win the world cup, I bet a thousand buck on it...............

........................

...................

:o (n)

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 05:40 PM

I wouldn't say that Europe is disappointing just cus the competition is tougher.

France and England were disappointments. and spain

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 05:41 PM

Are the Aussies in the playoff? Who have they got?

Again, I'll say it again. It'd be great to be drawn in the same group as Australia to beat them again :p

The world cup makes me giddy, thus the 100000+ threads I've done in here :o

zippo

10-17-2005, 05:50 PM

so did England and they were having some trouble in qualifying

dude...its not gonna happen

when has USA ever had consistency in world cups like england or other european countries that you say are not at their best right now? it doesnt matter if europes level isnt great at the moment or not, USA isnt comparable to them really.

i mean, we could even say that more than a world cup, its a european-south american cup, seriously now, the best levels always circulate around just a few countries.

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 05:58 PM

dude...its not gonna happen

when has USA ever had consistency in world cups like england or other european countries that you say are not at their best right now?

i'm not disputing their past mediocrity. They have been bad in the past theres no arguing that. but this is a different team, better and experienced players. experienced coach. The U.S. isnt a push over anymore. Their game may not be exciting or flashy but they get the job done. They have solid players and will make some noise in the world cup. I honestly cant wait for it, i'm really excited about the world cup. everyone is gonna see how better the U.S. is now than in the past. Soccer is stealing kids away from baseball, football and basketball here in the U.S. and in a few years the national team is gonna be even better.

Freebasser

10-17-2005, 05:59 PM

Anyway, England will win Germany in the final.

Do you think they'll have the room in their trophy cabinet?

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 06:05 PM

They have a cabinet? wow :eek:

Freebasser

10-17-2005, 06:06 PM

Well they'd better put some air holes in something if they intend to keep the entire population of Germany couped up in Wembley.

TonsOfFun

10-17-2005, 06:07 PM

I'm hoping this thread is still around and some one remembers in 9 months time when the USA are knocked out.

You seriously cannot compare European football to anything but South American football. I mean, seriously. Probably McBride is USA's best player. McBride, who? exactly!

Extra Cheese

10-17-2005, 06:10 PM

we'll see.

zippo

10-17-2005, 06:24 PM

i'm not disputing their past mediocrity. They have been bad in the past theres no arguing that. but this is a different team, better and experienced players. experienced coach. The U.S. isnt a push over anymore. Their game may not be exciting or flashy but they get the job done. They have solid players and will make some noise in the world cup. I honestly cant wait for it, i'm really excited about the world cup. everyone is gonna see how better the U.S. is now than in the past. Soccer is stealing kids away from baseball, football and basketball here in the U.S. and in a few years the national team is gonna be even better.

really? well it would be cool to have an emerging team bringing more competition to the cup

good luck! (youll need it....hehehohohihi)

discopants

10-18-2005, 02:31 AM

You know, between us Brazilians and Argentines will always have this dispute between "Who were the best : Pelé or Maradona?" The fact is that they were pleyers from different eras. Pele was the best in his time and Maradona was the best in his time. But I still consider Pelé the greatest cause he stablished records that will never be broken. His score marks are an example of it.

About your list: I only know Puskas. The 2 others ... :confused:

This is Gary Kelly...

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/football-heroes/displayhero_club.asp?HeroID=5832

... pants not included. Although the gloves are quite disco-ey.

Junker

10-18-2005, 10:36 AM

Anyway, England will win Germany in the final. After beating brazil in the semis and Argentina in Quarters.

Im not so sure. I dont know if you know this. But everytime Brasil matched England in World Cups we finished winning the Cup. So, if happens a confront Brasil x England..........well.........you'll know what will happen........ Brasil 6 times World Cup Champions :D

Now, seriously........im very confident about our team.

Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Robinho, Adriano, Roberto Carlos will terrify the other teams. :eek:

TonsOfFun

10-18-2005, 11:57 AM

Logic has Basil all over that cup. But you've gotta have faith man! And I do in England :D

titou lapraline

10-18-2005, 12:26 PM

Next friendly match FRANCE-GERMANY
FRANCE 3, GERMANY 0 ! :D

TonsOfFun

10-18-2005, 12:27 PM

England 3 v 1 Argentina - friendly

Junker

10-18-2005, 01:16 PM

Logic has Basil all over that cup. But you've gotta have faith man! And I do in England :D

hehehehe..........youre right!!!

And you must have faith in your team. Its a fucking great team.
You know........Im a very big fan of Beckham cause he can put the ball wherever he wants to. He makes perfect passes like nobody else. But that Rooney is an extraordinaire striker. The boys has skills.

poetichustler

10-18-2005, 02:02 PM

yeah germany and italy should be neck to neck

zippo

10-18-2005, 09:39 PM

Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Robinho, Adriano, Roberto Carlos will terrify the other teams. :eek:

i adore the brazilian players, especially Adriano and Ronaldo, i laugh sometimes when they manage to put on a "show" during a game cuz its so incredible its ridiculous!

im gonna say itll probabluy be between Brazil, Argentina (although last Cup they fucked up from the beginning), Germany, Italy, and, in the name of hope, Uruguay.

Junker

10-19-2005, 09:23 AM

i adore the brazilian players, especially Adriano and Ronaldo, i laugh sometimes when they manage to put on a "show" during a game cuz its so incredible its ridiculous!

im gonna say itll probabluy be between Brazil, Argentina (although last Cup they fucked up from the beginning), Germany, Italy, and, in the name of hope, Uruguay.

Argentina always has a great team but lately theyre done bad in the WC. I hope they do a long way in the cup cause go back home early is terrible

About a show man, you must wait until the world see what Robinho can do. Now thats a show boy. The guy is insane...... :eek:

zippo

10-19-2005, 04:36 PM

About a show man, you must wait until the world see what Robinho can do. Now thats a show boy. The guy is insane...... :eek:

did you (or anyone) see the finals of this last Copa America (American Cup), between Brasil and Argentina? where it was argentina, 1-0, and in the last MINUTE, someone passes the ball to Adriano, he stops it without it hitting the ground, kicks it up, and while its in the air, he turns around so hes now facing the goal, and when it hits his foot he kicks it straight into the goal, then leading them into "penales" (english??) where Brasil ends up winning.

fucking wow.

synch

10-19-2005, 04:39 PM

zippo

10-19-2005, 05:00 PM

Penalties :)

We had Adriano at Parma for a season and a half but he was never really ours. We bought half of him off of Inter but we had an agreement to sell him back after two seasons. They needed him after a year and a half so we cashed in on him more than we would have...

Ah well... *sob*

football is becoming more and more about money isnt it. i recently learned that referees make business transactions out of matches, call me ignorant, but i didnt know it was so common. i had no idea. i read the article it said this in and it was such a huge dissapointment, i couldnt believe it. everyone gives in.

synch

10-19-2005, 05:17 PM

Best ref in the world (collina) wasn't allowed to direct serie a matches because he shares the same sponsor as AC Milan. Instead of getting rid of the sponsor he retired.

Guess he has bills to pay as well... :(

zippo

10-19-2005, 05:25 PM

synch

10-19-2005, 05:30 PM

They made an exception for him, he was allowed to ref for one more season even if he's above the maximum age for refs (according to the Italian FA).

When the Opel thing became a problem they allowed him to ref serie B matches only but he said something along the lines of "you either trust me or you don't" and left.

There were talks of bringing him to england to ref Premiership games. Would be interesting to say the least!

On a vaguely related note, years ago a dutch ref that had reached the maximum age took the dutch FA to court and won. I think that from that point on refs that passed the physical could ref in the highest division regardless of age. He was able to anyway :)

discopants

10-20-2005, 02:36 AM

Penalties :)

Please don't use words like that when there are are Englishmen about.

TonsOfFun

10-20-2005, 03:33 AM

I would love to see Collina in the premiership as a ref. Or the Championship. Some ref's need to see how it is done, some poor choices. Best English ref was probably Jeff (or Geoff, I dunno which) Winters. Shame he retired, but no way as good as collina.

Junker

10-20-2005, 04:43 AM

did you (or anyone) see the finals of this last Copa America (American Cup), between Brasil and Argentina? where it was argentina, 1-0, and in the last MINUTE, someone passes the ball to Adriano, he stops it without it hitting the ground, kicks it up, and while its in the air, he turns around so hes now facing the goal, and when it hits his foot he kicks it straight into the goal, then leading them into "penales" (english??) where Brasil ends up winning.

fucking wow.

Yeah dude.....How could I forgot this??
Btw, we beat our "hermanos" (hehehe....thats how we call them) in the Copa America's final and in the Confederations Cup final (amazing match).

scotty

10-20-2005, 06:06 AM

and, in the name of hope, Uruguay.

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.

Junker

10-20-2005, 08:43 AM

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.

hehehehe..........

btw, when will they play?

Leonie

10-20-2005, 09:15 AM

I hope the Netherlands win!! I can't wait.. i really like watching the championships : D , the less important games are less interesting, athough i watch ajax (Amsterdam's soccerclub) sometimes..

Junker

10-20-2005, 09:50 AM

I hope the Netherlands win!! I can't wait.. i really like watching the championships : D , the less important games are less interesting, athough i watch ajax (Amsterdam's soccerclub) sometimes..

You have a great team. Im sure you'll do well. (y)

synch

10-20-2005, 03:44 PM

They've always had a great team... usually doesn't seem to work out for them...

This might be their year though.

TonsOfFun

10-20-2005, 03:48 PM

They've always had a great team... usually doesn't seem to work out for them...

This might be their year though.

This year maybe. Next will be Englands :p

I'll go now.

drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and fight drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and fight...

synch

10-20-2005, 03:50 PM

HEY!

Extra Cheese

10-20-2005, 03:54 PM

I cant wait for the U.S. to shut all your mouths

TonsOfFun

10-20-2005, 03:59 PM

I cant wait for the U.S. to shut all your mouths

gonna declare war?

TonsOfFun

10-20-2005, 04:00 PM

HEY!

dude you have a gimmie gimmies sig. I funkin love them.

Was gonna see them but they cancelled cus of illness. Might of been this month or last... (y)

synch

10-20-2005, 04:03 PM

I had tickets to that gig as well... september fourteenth...

I got the tickets in april and was looking forward to it since then. Not that I'm bitter or anything :(

Saw the Caddies about four or five times though. Great live band.

TonsOfFun

10-20-2005, 04:29 PM

Yeah, we had the tickets a while to. Seen the caddies in the past, only at festivals tho, I think.

Seen swinging utters last year (is it the guitarist from gimmie gimmies in that). Think they was supporting NOFX.

I wish I could remember things!?

Anyway, football!

synch

10-20-2005, 04:40 PM

:D

Later mate.

I'll be stuck with "drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink and fight, HEY!" all night by the way :(

TonsOfFun

10-20-2005, 04:41 PM

sorry dude, I had dropkick's on at the same time as replying

zippo

10-20-2005, 06:54 PM

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.

yea, the melancholic echoes of the day´s chants will be the only thing youll be able to remember after the Uruguay-Australia match, on the other hand, Uruguayans will remember the winning goal.

thank you very much

sure

no, really

Junker

10-21-2005, 05:01 AM

They've always had a great team... usually doesn't seem to work out for them...

This might be their year though.

no no no.......... :D

You remember.............. we eliminate Holland in '94 and in '98

If Brasil's and Holland's ways dont cross untill the final........well, maybe they have a chance........
hehehehehe.......im just kidding...........im just a fanatic as you guys
And as you I support my team
But facts are facts. Holland arent that lucky against Brasil :D

Junker

10-21-2005, 05:03 AM

I cant wait for the U.S. to shut all your mouths

that would suck :eek:

synch

10-21-2005, 05:59 AM

no no no.......... :D

You remember.............. we eliminate Holland in '94 and in '98

If Brasil's and Holland's ways dont cross untill the final........well, maybe they have a chance........
hehehehehe.......im just kidding...........im just a fanatic as you guys
And as you I support my team
But facts are facts. Holland arent that lucky against Brasil :D
I support Italy. Not that we are any luckier against your lot :(

ToucanSpam

10-21-2005, 06:01 AM

I feel bad for Italy, I have a bad feeling they are going to suck.

My support for the Netherlands grows and grows each day.

hellojello

10-21-2005, 06:02 AM

this is our year

i just know

TonsOfFun

10-21-2005, 06:11 AM

this is our year

i just know

Hasn't the last couple of years taught you anything about Australia and large sporting events?

synch

10-21-2005, 06:12 AM

I cant wait for the U.S. to shut all your mouths
I think that's the foundation of your foreign policy at the moment.

ToucanSpam

10-21-2005, 06:14 AM

Wow, I forgot about Togo.

All you bitches be afraid of Togo.

TonsOfFun

10-21-2005, 06:18 AM

I think that's the foundation of your foreign policy at the moment.

I still cannot beleive Extra Cheese is still posting on this. USA's biggest opponent in recent history has been England's B-Team. England still won. I know USA proabably didn't have their full squad out either, but when England use such a game a publicity stunt and mess around with tatics etc, it puts England at a more disadvantage and USA still didn't win. So you say England are disappointing in their matches. What does that make the USA?

hellojello

10-21-2005, 06:24 AM

Hasn't the last couple of years taught you anything about Australia and large sporting events?
yeah,
it doesn't matter what country, shane warne's still going to very publicly disgrace himself.

scotty

10-21-2005, 08:36 AM

yea, the melancholic echoes of the day´s chants will be the only thing youll be able to remember after the Uruguay-Australia match, on the other hand, Uruguayans will remember the winning goal.

thank you very much

sure

no, really

That's right, our winning goal.

Junker

10-21-2005, 09:12 AM

I support Italy. Not that we are any luckier against your lot :(

:D
You reminded me USA '94, more specifically Roberto Baggio's kick into the space..........hehehehe

But he was a fucking great player ....... kinda unlucky..........but still fucking great

Junker

10-21-2005, 09:14 AM

Wow, I forgot about Togo.

All you bitches be afraid of Togo.

Hell yeah...........Togo will be a tough opponent :rolleyes:

Extra Cheese

10-21-2005, 11:14 AM

I think that's the foundation of your foreign policy at the moment.

oh snap!!! jab, jab. shut up and go take that to the political forum.

zippo

10-21-2005, 11:23 AM

That's right, our winning goal.

faaack, all i needed to add was an "ir" to a word and my comeback wouldve been perfectly sealed, shut tight, no air coming in, no air coming out.

now, i like this going back and forth with you, but all the bbmb insults between us wont make australia win. uruguay will be kicking ass, its whats gonna happen. do not fear future for it is what is meant to be.

have some good luck, from uruguay to australia.

OK YOUR TURN

zippo

10-21-2005, 11:25 AM

oh snap!!! jab, jab. shut up and go take that to the political forum.

its ok little one, even the US of A has the right to think their team will win. up and at em, USA, up and at em!

Extra Cheese

10-21-2005, 11:38 AM

relax, dont get all flustered. its obvious you're uptight over the fact that the U.S. will kick ass

zippo

10-21-2005, 11:40 AM

yes, watch out for USA people

Extra Cheese

10-21-2005, 11:46 AM

yeah, yeah go ahead and patronize.

i'll leave it alone until next summer comes.

TonsOfFun

10-21-2005, 12:26 PM

i'll leave it alone until next summer comes.

(y)

:p

It's just football 'yo, that is what respective teams do to each other. And then when that team loses an excuse is made up and the pitch, ref, preperation, manager, linesman or some aspect not relating to the team is blamed!

Being from a non-footballing nation you wouldn't know this, haha :p

Sorry, I'll stop now. The thing is, USA are easy to pick on cus of various outside football issues...

But if I have read it wrong and you haven't taken offense, then ignore this post...

synch

10-21-2005, 12:48 PM

oh snap!!! jab, jab. shut up and go take that to the political forum.
Why don't you go play with crayons and colour red-white-blue-with widdle stars on the wallpaper.

You can act all indignified at the so-called patronizing but it was all friendly banter before you posted your arrogant comment.

Unless you meant it as a joke of course, in which case I apologise.

Extra Cheese

10-21-2005, 01:02 PM

then apologize bitch,, and what arrogant comment did i say?

synch

10-21-2005, 01:08 PM

See how that works? I give you the benefit of the doubt and imply that maybe I misunderstood you and you call me a "bitch". What are you, twelve?

I cant wait for the U.S. to shut all your mouths

And you don't "say" comments mr english-as-a-first-language.

Extra Cheese

10-21-2005, 01:11 PM

so when everyone else say something similar its all friendly but when the american says it its arrogant.

this time i really will leave it all alone and wait for the summer.

And you don't "say" comments mr english-as-a-first-language.

tit for tat and yet i'm the 12 year old. interesting

synch

10-21-2005, 01:12 PM

No, it was the way I thought you meant it. I then said that maybe I misunderstood me and you called me a bitch.

See where we went wrong here?

If you were just joking around I apologise (despite you calling me a bitch).

ToucanSpam

10-21-2005, 01:39 PM

God what a little bitch

The US is going to get spanked and I will be happy when they lose and go home. Ranked 7th in the world? The fucking FIFA rankings are horseshit anyways.

UEFA x 1.00
CONMEBOL x 0.99
CAF x 0.96
CONCACAF x 0.94
AFC x 0.93
OFC x 0.93

That's god damn retarted. CONCACAF as .94? This is why you have shitty teams like Mexico (no offense Mexico, but you shouldn't be top ten...top twenty yes) and the USA in the top 10. It's complete bullshit. Congrats USA you beat Haiti 20 times. :rolleyes:

TonsOfFun

10-21-2005, 02:52 PM

^I never knew that is how they worked it out the rankings. I thought it was just a bunch of big wigs who was paid by corporations who decide where they are ranked. Cus I always thought it was a bit weird some of the rankings. Now I know there is science behind it all, it's even more retarded!

scotty

10-22-2005, 07:26 AM

faaack, all i needed to add was an "ir" to a word and my comeback wouldve been perfectly sealed, shut tight, no air coming in, no air coming out.

now, i like this going back and forth with you, but all the bbmb insults between us wont make australia win. uruguay will be kicking ass, its whats gonna happen. do not fear future for it is what is meant to be.

have some good luck, from uruguay to australia.

OK YOUR TURN

There is an incredibly positive feeling in Australia going into these games. Traditionally, football has been the least supported code after Aussie Rules, Rugby and Rugby League; so the support from the community is quite astouding.

There are a few reasons why I think we'll get up over Uruguay. Firstly, the game has just undergone a massive restructure here with a new league and administration. The crowds at the local games are comparable to those at rugby league matches (15,000-20,000 people, Aussie rules get more people) compared to maybe an average of 2000 last year. So there is positive community support for the national team, rather than a kind of fools hope.

Secondly, the main problem with the national team has been our defence. Under Frank Farina, the defence really suffered and was the main reason we didn't qualify for the last two world cups. Guus Hiddink has really tightened it up in the few months he's been in charge. It still can be shaky, but with every game its improving.

Thirdly, the skill level has increased, particularly the passing game. We had a tendency to grind our passes out and it looked really choppy and untidy. The team has been working well together recently, with more fluid forward motions and purpose up front.

zippo

10-23-2005, 07:11 PM

There is an incredibly positive feeling in Australia going into these games. Traditionally, football has been the least supported code after Aussie Rules, Rugby and Rugby League; so the support from the community is quite astouding.

There are a few reasons why I think we'll get up over Uruguay. Firstly, the game has just undergone a massive restructure here with a new league and administration. The crowds at the local games are comparable to those at rugby league matches (15,000-20,000 people, Aussie rules get more people) compared to maybe an average of 2000 last year. So there is positive community support for the national team, rather than a kind of fools hope.

Secondly, the main problem with the national team has been our defence. Under Frank Farina, the defence really suffered and was the main reason we didn't qualify for the last two world cups. Guus Hiddink has really tightened it up in the few months he's been in charge. It still can be shaky, but with every game its improving.

Thirdly, the skill level has increased, particularly the passing game. We had a tendency to grind our passes out and it looked really choppy and untidy. The team has been working well together recently, with more fluid forward motions and purpose up front.

hmm, my antennas went up. alright, we will have to wait and see then

discopants

10-24-2005, 03:00 AM

yeah,
it doesn't matter what country, shane warne's still going to very publicly disgrace himself.

He's the gretaest spin bowler the owrld has ever seen but he cinsiders it a challenge to make a tit of himself wherever he goes.

TonsOfFun

11-11-2005, 07:08 AM

Extra Cheese

11-11-2005, 12:28 PM

So Extra Cheese, are the US gonna win Scotland this weekend.

Seriously Scotland are shit, but the they'll kick USA's ass! And will so if the USA are a world force in football! :p

I'm actually gonna put a bet on a Scotland win. I'll even post a picture the betting slip I'm that confident! :D

donovan isnt there, dempsey isnt there. noonan isnt there, johnson isnt there, reyna isnt there, theres a few more important national playes who wont be there. that being said the U.S. is gonna win rather easily and then i'll wait for the complaints that the rest of the world will come up, i'm guessing it'll be the usual "the U.S. plays to defensive and makes the game boring blahblahblahblah".

scotland. please.

P.S. - if the U.S. loses i'll be using the notable player absences as an excuse, i'm invoking my rights as a fan to make excuses.

synch

11-11-2005, 01:32 PM

Hell I'll blame the grass in the Amsterdam ArenA and the abnoxious fuck sitting in front of me during the game if Italy loses to Holland tomorrow night.

Excuses is part of the game ;)

ToucanSpam

11-11-2005, 01:39 PM

You knwo Italy is going to get peppered. :D

TonsOfFun

11-11-2005, 01:45 PM

P.S. - if the U.S. loses i'll be using the notable player absences as an excuse, i'm invoking my rights as a fan to make excuses.

Is that why they lost to England's B Team? Oh wait, you had a fully strength squad there...

:p

synch

11-11-2005, 01:50 PM

You knwo Italy is going to get peppered. :D
What has the mighty Canada done lately? :D

Extra Cheese

11-11-2005, 02:10 PM

Is that why they lost to England's B Team? Oh wait, you had a fully strength squad there...

:p

you keep doing and saying whatever you have to in order to make yourself think that England isnt slipping into mediocrity day by day. (y)

argentina 4 - england 0

TonsOfFun

11-11-2005, 03:32 PM

Wouldn't be as bad as losing to Scotland, since England aren't expected to win. A draw or better is a result to the no. 2 team in the world. I'm still :confused: to how Scotland is a warm up match to the World Cup. Or do they just match the teams :p

ToucanSpam

11-11-2005, 04:00 PM

What has the mighty Canada done lately? :D
As long as Italy loses, I'm happy. ;)

Canada sucks at soccer.

synch

11-11-2005, 05:20 PM

Yeah, can't even get the name of the game right ;)

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 11:18 AM

argentina got a fly jersey

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 11:29 AM

oh so close for rooney but too bad.. he's gonna blow of fuse any minute now with the refs

synch

11-12-2005, 11:29 AM

And have just scored.

Go Crespo! One of my favourite players.

I turned the tv on after reading your post and saw him celebrate his goal :D

Cheers :)

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 11:32 AM

DAMN IT!!!!! i'm watching on a delay here,,, you ruined it for me :(

Parkey

11-12-2005, 11:35 AM

1-1. Fuck me, Rooney's good!

synch

11-12-2005, 11:36 AM

Sorry man, couldn't have known. I'll shut up now.

I won't tell you that... :D

edit: hahaha what Parkey just told you

I'd stay out of this thread Extra Cheese :)

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 11:36 AM

damn rooney

Parkey

11-12-2005, 11:37 AM

What a great game (y)

synch

11-12-2005, 11:38 AM

I still can't believe Lazio let Sorin go for free.

Parkey

11-12-2005, 11:53 AM

Let's hope the 2nd half is as good as the 1st!

paul jones

11-12-2005, 11:56 AM

Let's hope the 2nd half is as good as the 1st!

ah,I gorgot the game was on,I been too busy playing The Warriors game

synch

11-12-2005, 11:57 AM

You missed the best 45 minutes in a long time apparently. I missed 25 of those :(

Parkey

11-12-2005, 11:57 AM

ah,I gorgot the game was on,I been too busy playing The Warriors game
You've missed a blinder so far!

paul jones

11-12-2005, 11:58 AM

You've missed a blinder so far!

ah well nevermind

Parkey

11-12-2005, 12:08 PM

And we're losing again...

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 12:11 PM

looked like the goalie caught a swift kick to the grill from his own man

Parkey

11-12-2005, 12:44 PM

HOLY FUCK! 3-2! Good lad Owen (y)

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 12:45 PM

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! again, i'm on a delay watching this and like a dickhead i keep checking this thread.

Parkey

11-12-2005, 12:47 PM

Sorry chief! I got too excited!

It felt like a World Cup game! If we can play like that in Germany there's a chance (a chance!) we could make the final.

What a fantastic match (y) (y) (y)

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 12:48 PM

3 goals but still the argentine goalie made some real nice saves.

Parkey

11-12-2005, 12:50 PM

3 goals but still the argentine goalie made some real nice saves.
both goalies were outstanding.

TonsOfFun

11-12-2005, 01:22 PM

So what has the world learnt today about playing England in sport?

Answer: You're gonna get your assed kicked!

Win in Rugby & Football today. Always nice to beat Australia and Argentina in one day. Any other countries beginning with A wanna get their assed kick? America? :D

Who are ya?

Ha. I cannot wait to England are fully strengthed from injuries*. *I'm keeping my fingers crossed Neville and whatshisface come back for Englands Defence cus then we will be a force.

Even if England lost today (football), if they played like that they only have two teams to fear in the whole world cup. Brasil and Argentina.

If you wasn't impressed by both teams in the Geneva game today, then there is something wrong with. You cannot say England are flagging after that.

Yeah, and well done to the USA for scoring against scotland! Penalty, you must be proud. In all truth I haven't seen the match yet so I dunno how they played or how to rate the USA.

Bring on Germany 2006!

TonsOfFun

11-12-2005, 01:28 PM

Ah, the funking smile on my face right now!

Shit the highlights of the Rugby are on now. Must catch that. BBC Three if anyone is interested in seeing another world force in action :p (y)

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 05:02 PM

Yeah, and well done to the USA for scoring against scotland! Penalty, you must be proud.

this is how good the U.S. is,,, a match where they throw their young players in to see what they got, to evaluate their skill for the world cup and they still manage to come away with a draw. this was basically a practice session versus another team and the U.S. comes out looking great. I'm telling you this team is gonna be too good and too deep for the rest of the world.

Parkey

11-12-2005, 05:04 PM

The new FIFA ranking for the World Cup now has it as;

1. Brazil
2. England
3. Argentina

TonsOfFun

11-12-2005, 05:06 PM

The new FIFA ranking for the World Cup now has it as;

1. Brazil
2. England
3. Argentina

Seriously?

That quick? Or am I missing the joke? :confused:

I didn't think freindlies got that many points and I thought it worked as if USA beat Scotland they'd get as many points.

edit: If not a joke! BRING IT ON! :D

TonsOfFun

11-12-2005, 05:11 PM

this is how good the U.S. is,,, a match where England throw their young players in to see what they got, to evaluate their skill for the world cup and they still manage to come away with a WIN agaist the US, who people think they are good for some reason. this was basically a practice session versus another team and England comes out looking great against US's full strength team. I'm telling you this team is gonna be too good and too deep for the rest of the world.

Thats better, although should of been written a few months ago :p

Parkey

11-12-2005, 05:11 PM

Yeah, it was just on the BBC1 news. The bookies have got the same order. I'll see if I can find a link on the BBC site...

TonsOfFun

11-12-2005, 05:16 PM

Hell yeah. I'll take your word for it. Or I'll find a link.

The best news of that is that we'll be seeded probably now. And avoid Brasil until the final and Germany in the semi's and Argentina in the Quarters :D

Parkey

11-12-2005, 05:18 PM

ToucanSpam

11-12-2005, 05:19 PM

The Americans couldn't muster a win against Scotland? Pathetic. This is why the Coca-Cola (tm) FIFA Rankings are cockblockery.

TonsOfFun

11-12-2005, 05:23 PM

When we win the world cup, this is what we'll sing; WE ARE ENGLAND, WE ARE ENGLAND, Sven is the KING!

I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited for this world cup. More than most I think. My blood is tingling.

Seriously, Scotland will the thinking the same Toucan, 'how the fuck couldn't we win those yanks'

Wow, I'm the 2nd highest poster in this thread.

It's amazing how many times you can say "USA are shit" and not get bored of it - 35 times so far :p

boys_beastie

11-12-2005, 06:02 PM

i was speachless when owen scored those 2 goals in the space of 5-6 minutes. all i could do was scream at the TV.

Extra Cheese

11-12-2005, 06:49 PM

USA wins by getting the draw.

The U.S. is unstoppable, no one wants any part of the U.S. right about now. they're playing better than any other team, all the other countries are basically kissing the U.S' ass in hopes that the the U.S. will take it easy on them when it comes time for their ass kicking. its the same shit from every country "oh the U.S. is improving everyday, the will be a force. They can have their way with my wife as long as they dont bitch slap us in soccer then overthrow our leader in a fit of imperialist rage".

See you losers in germany 06 where the U.S. will come out victorious

ToucanSpam

11-12-2005, 07:09 PM

My god you are an idiot.

synch

11-12-2005, 10:29 PM

You knwo Italy is going to get peppered. :D
Hee! :D

ToucanSpam

11-12-2005, 10:35 PM

I saw the highlights, Nistlerooy was invisible all game...the Italians deserved to win....I'm more happy about the Americans being unable to beat the 90th ranked Scots...pathetic.

synch

11-12-2005, 11:05 PM

Van Nistelrooy was probably back in manchester so you were more likely to see him at the England - Argentina game than at the ArenA :D

Toni's goal was amazing. That man is pure power.

TonsOfFun

11-13-2005, 03:00 AM

I saw the Scotland highlights. Definate penalty cus any idiot would of probably scored if not fouled. On the Scotland goal the keeper should of been better positioned but still probably would of got it.

Couldn't believe the Dutch score.

I think this is gonna be a good world cup for sure!

Germany might be a force just because of home advantage. On paper their team isn't great and I haven't seen them play. Plus they ain't had any competitive games for a while. But when you think how home advantage helped Japan, could be interesting!?

I'll be even more excited when the World Cup sticker book comes out :D

Extra Cheese

11-13-2005, 11:17 AM

when are the seedings and groups announced?

synch

11-13-2005, 11:21 AM

The draw is in the first week of december.

ToucanSpam

11-13-2005, 11:24 AM

I'm hoping Argentina doesn't get screwed over and get stuffed in a group with Sweden and England again.

TonsOfFun

11-13-2005, 01:27 PM

I'd imagine Argentina and England will both be seeded thus at least one of them avoiding Sweden. Yeah, I don't want England to meet Sweden at all cus they'll lose and the swede in charge of the English will get the sack rather than winning the whole world cup. Not that Sweden are better than England, it's just one of those teams and a conflict of interest.

discopants

11-14-2005, 03:52 AM

ah,I gorgot the game was on,I been too busy playing The Warriors game

We got the streets suckas!!! Gotta stop saying that.

I've got a bad feeling about the World Cup. You can never rule out those damn Germans.

zippo

11-14-2005, 03:18 PM

synch

11-14-2005, 04:07 PM

USA 10 7 1 2 16 6 22
Mexico 10 7 1 2 22 9 22
Costa Rica 10 5 1 4 15 14 16
Trinidad & T 10 4 1 5 10 15 13
Guatemala 10 3 2 5 16 18 11
Panama 10 0 2 8 4 21 2I'll be damned if a word like "Tobago" is going to ruin this table.

But ehm, yeah, Trinidad and Tobago plays a playoff against Bahrein. That makes it essentially impossible for the USA and Mexico not to qualify.

Australia and Uruguay should play Trinidad and Tobago or Bahrein instead of eachother.

Extra Cheese

11-14-2005, 04:08 PM

oh, zippo, zippo, zippo.

at this stage of the game U.S. doubters should have moved on to better gripes and not keep barking on the USA's easy road to qualifying.

I wonder if they'll be new jerseys for the world cup

zippo

11-14-2005, 04:16 PM

[/USA] 10 7 1 2 16 6 22
Mexico 10 7 1 2 22 9 22
Costa Rica 10 5 1 4 15 14 16
Trinidad & T 10 4 1 5 10 15 13
Guatemala 10 3 2 5 16 18 11
Panama 10 0 2 8 4 21 2

yea, those are the big guys

Extra Cheese

11-14-2005, 04:17 PM

synch

11-14-2005, 04:25 PM

oh, zippo, zippo, zippo.

at this stage of the game U.S. doubters should have moved on to better gripes and not keep barking on the USA's easy road to qualifying.Why?
I wonder if they'll be new jerseys for the world cup
Of course, they need to extort fresh money out of us.

Incidently, as I hoped the "old" Italian shirt is on sale because there is a new one. The new one is absolutely horrible!

franscar

11-14-2005, 04:41 PM

Toni's goal was amazing. That man is pure power.

I'm sure you said he was crap last time I told you how great he was.

synch

11-14-2005, 04:42 PM

The only reason you know who he is is because he played in pink last season, so yeah.

He scored two against us :(

franscar

11-14-2005, 04:43 PM

That's only a half truth. He also has a great name for chanting purposes.

TONI TONI TONI TONI.

zippo

11-14-2005, 04:44 PM

also, the australian players are hot!

franscar

11-14-2005, 04:47 PM

I get to watch one of those Australians every other week. Unless he's injured. Which he usually is. :(

zippo

11-14-2005, 04:56 PM

meaning

synch

11-14-2005, 04:58 PM

He has a season ticket to Birmingham, a team where some Aussie plays when he's not being a little baby out injured.

What's his name again?

franscar

11-14-2005, 04:59 PM

Stan Lazaridis.

He's old now, but he used to be good. Damn good.

zippo

11-14-2005, 05:04 PM

wednesday...wednesday

franscar

11-14-2005, 05:07 PM

zippo

11-14-2005, 05:12 PM

The Aussies won't get a better shot at qualifying than this. Uruguay aren't a patch on the team they were four years ago, and they're missing their top striker for this match as well, Diego Forlan.

If Australia keep Recoba quiet, then they can win the tie.

well, Forlan didnt play saturday either, and like you said theres Recoba, plus not only that, Uruguay is a far way better team than Australia ever was anyways, i dont think we have much to worry about.

franscar

11-14-2005, 05:21 PM

Uruguay are poor travellers though. They didn't win a single game away from home in the qualifying rounds, that's got to be on their minds.

If Viduka, Kewell and Emerton play well, then there's always a chance of goals, and Schwarzer is a steady goalkeeper at the other end, I've always been quite impressed with him.

zippo

11-14-2005, 05:34 PM

Uruguay are poor travellers though. They didn't win a single game away from home in the qualifying rounds, that's got to be on their minds.

theyre not at their best, yea, but since australia doesnt really have footballistic history, it leads me to believe theyll be an easy opponent. like, that we´ll kick ass and stuff. ok, wednesday.