ACTORS: The Good, The Bad and The Underrated

[mickill]

I mean with this generation, more or less.

Good: Edward Norton. I think if he wasn't kinda dorky, he'd be considered more of an a-list actor. But his work, from Primal Fear to American History X to Fight Club to Everyone Says I Love You to Death To Smoochy to The 25th Hour shows he's got incredible range. In fact, he's probably the most versatile actor since DeNiro. But he'll never get that Affleck money, or the Tom Cruise roles, and it's not because he can't act.

Bad: Orlando Bloom. Can they stop giving this guy roles already? He was fine in the whole LOTR thing, but once he started getting to talk more, he just kinda began to show his real flaws.

Underrated: Cate Blanchett. I think she's probably one of the best female actors out there, but she tends to get overshadowed a lot. Maybe it's the roles she picks. I don't know. Either way, I think she has a lot of natural ability. She shoulda had an oscar before Julia Roberts, Gwyneth Paltrow or Halle Berry. I mean, c'mon.

[cookiepuss]

orlando is such eye candy it's not even funny. nobody cares what he says cause he's pretty.

[bigblu89]

Good:Edward Norton. I have to agree there (which may be a first for us). I have never saw a movie with hm in it that I even though was just OK, everything he's in is good.

Bad: Keanu Reeves. Considering he's had the same character since he was Ted Theodore Logan, just changed his haircut.

Underrated. Jason Lee. Although "I think My Name Is Earl" is going to change that.

[Qdrop]

Good: Johny depp. one of the best actors going today. amazing range...can pull the most bizarre characters out of the depths of this mind. he has NO fear when accepting the most challenging roles. he could give 2 shits about popularity....and he has decades more to go....

Bad: the Rock. dude....come on. why is he still getting roles? i mean....dude.

Underrated: jake gyllehal (sp) and Nick Stahl. they fuckin rock. everything these 2 have done has been spectacular (well, bubbleboy was....yeah...forget that). i can't wait to see which one will win the oscar first....

[mickill]

orlando is such eye candy it's not even funny. nobody cares what he says cause he's pretty.
Yes, that's exactly my point. He gets by on looks, just the same as say Cameron Diaz (who's currently the second highest paid actress, I believe) or Jennifer Lopez.

[synch]

Good: Brad Pitt - Thought he was just a pretty boy actor but proved me wrong by not taking himself so seriously as to avoid weird roles. Above all his roles in 12 monkeys and Snatch.

Bad: Quentin Tarantino - Direct, but please, stay off camera. Please?

Underrated: Steve Bushemi - Won't ever get proper roles because he's goofy looking but he's a very good actor.

[boys_beastie]

you mean buscemi? or whatever it is lol. he had a pretty big roll in fargo

good: jim carey (showed versatility with eternal sunshine)

bad: russell crowe (lets face it)

underrated: kieran culkin

[jabumbo]

Underrated: Steve Bushemi - Won't ever get proper roles because he's goofy looking but he's a very good actor.


fuckin a man, i love this guy.

i recorded some goofy movie off some movie channel one day just because he was in it



yeah, and i am a fan of cate blanchett as well. i got hooked after watching the aviator

[cookiepuss]

I must also add Ryan Renolds to the Bad list.

I like ryan....on sitcoms. he's great for TV. But he doesn't make the transition to movie acting well. his delivery is too...animated? I guess that's the word I'm looking for.

He's got the eye candy thing going though. I guess he got all buff for that Blade movie and last night we were watching him in the Aminityville horor remake and he had alot of scences without his shirt. I was like DAMN! break me off a peice of that! his bod is amazing.

[yeahwho]

Good.....Edward norton for sure, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Steve Buscemi, Don Cheadle, Guy Pearce....all tops in my book.

On another level though I would have to say Jack, Al, Bobby D'Niro and Gene Hackman have set the bar pretty high.

Bad......All those pretty boys from your last thread. Oh yeah and that Diesel guy.

Underrated.....David Strathairn, but not for long...he's Edward R. Murrow in the upcoming Good Night, and Good Luck.

[mickill]

I agree with Depp and Jason Lee. Lee's just more of a funny guy than a serious thespian, though. And yeah, Keanu hasn't moved more than 3 muscles in his face since he started acting.

Strangely, I consider Brad Pitt more of an underrated actor. But yes, he's definitely good.

I don't know, though, Q, I mean, Walking Tall and The Rundown are admittedly stupid movies, but they can be entertaining, and The Rock kinda holds his own. I joke about being a fan of his, but he's actually not that bad. Plus, he at least has charisma going for him. Orlando Bloom can't really say the same.

[g-mile7]

Good: Morgan Freeman
Bad: Ice Cube
Underated: Lois Gosset Jr. (wtf happen to this guy?)

[yeahwho]

Good: Morgan Freeman
Bad: Ice Cube
Underated: Lois Gosset Jr. (wtf happen to this guy?)

Morgan Freeman, damn, he's fucking great! His range of emotion can change from the slightest facial expression....and that voice...yep he's Great. (y)

[bigblu89]

I don't know, though, Q, I mean, Walking Tall and The Rundown are admittedly stupid movies, but they can be entertaining, and The Rock kinda holds his own. I joke about being a fan of his, but he's actually not that bad. Plus, he at least has charisma going for him. Orlando Bloom can't really say the same.


Yeah, for the type of movies that he's in, he does a decent job. As of right now, he's smart enough to realize he's nothing more than an "Action Star".

And his role in Be Cool was the lone bright spot in a terrible movie.

[cookiepuss]

underrated -William H. Macy..another goofy looking guy who doesn't get nearly enough credit.

[g-mile7]

Morgan Freeman, damn, he's fucking great! His range of emotion can change from the slightest facial expression....and that voice...yep he's Great. (y)



Always been a fan...he even killed the shit in Robin Hood (y)

[g-mile7]

Yeah, for the type of movies that he's in, he does a decent job. As of right now, he's smart enough to realize he's nothing more than an "Action Star".

And his role in Be Cool was the lone bright spot in a terrible movie.


Rock is not that bad....the roles he chooses don't allow him to do all he can. I watched him when he was still in the WWF and that fool was one of the few that made the shit great to watch. A really funny guy and watch out for the movie he is doing about the juvinelle hall kids that become a football team (forget the name) based off a true story should be a great chance for him to show off his chops...the rock is good and given the right role (much like Jim Carey and Eternal Sunset...and Bruce Almighty) will show it..WWF HASNT BEEN THE SAME SINCE HE LEFT JABRONI.

[Bob]

Good: Brad Pitt - Thought he was just a pretty boy actor but proved me wrong by not taking himself so seriously as to avoid weird roles. Above all his roles in 12 monkeys and Snatch.

Bad: Quentin Tarantino - Direct, but please, stay off camera. Please?

Underrated: Steve Bushemi - Won't ever get proper roles because he's goofy looking but he's a very good actor.

i agree with all 3 of these. i would actually say brad pitt is underrated; hear me out!

in general (IE, not any of you), girls like him because he's a pretty boy, and guys don't like him because he's a pretty boy, but hang on, he can actually act. for a guy who COULD pull an orlando bloom and get by in hollywood solely on his looks, he's an excellent actor. people always call me gay when i say i like brad pitt, but they're wrong, i swear. i could find out that he's a scientologist and i'd forgive him because he's still good in his movies.

on that note: bad - tom cruise

[g-mile7]

Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt(to me) are extremlly overated...not bad....but overated

[synch]

i agree with all 3 of these. i would actually say brad pitt is underrated; hear me out!

in general (IE, not any of you), girls like him because he's a pretty boy, and guys don't like him because he's a pretty boy, but hang on, he can actually act. for a guy who COULD pull an orlando bloom and get by in hollywood solely on his looks, he's an excellent actor. people always call me gay when i say i like brad pitt, but they're wrong, i swear. i could find out that he's a scientologist and i'd forgive him because he's still good in his movies.
I agree with you and mickill, he is highly underrated in a way. I though of that while writing that. I originally had Buscemi in "good" but decided to put him in as "underrated" because he is, very. I was in doubt whether to put Pitt in "underrated" but it worked out better this way.

[roosta]

Good : Bill Murray. He's just the man. Always has been, but now he's really killing them.

Bad : Orlando Bloom. He was even shit in LOTR, with his poncy limp wristing posh talk.

Underated : David Schimmer. Ross was by far the funniest in friends. Bar none.

[cookiepuss]

I gots another Bad. ( why is it so much easier to focus on negative rather than positive.)

Ben Affleck. I don't think anyone will argue that he sucks just a little bit.

I laughed so hard when he started to become this HUGE sex symbol. I was like, you mean the guy form the kevin smith movies, sexy? ahahahahahaha! that's too funny. I can not get behind the sex symbol thing with him. I guess that makes him overrated in the sex symbol category

[mickill]

Pitt has a lot of depth and can render different emotions pretty effortlessly through his eyes alone. He's excellent in 12 Monkeys. He's barely recognizable in Kalifornia. He's seriously great in almost anything he does: Fight Club, Snatch, True Romance...I mean, I haven't really seen Legends Of The Fall or A River Runs Through It, but he's probably good in those too. He should kinda stay away from doing accents, though. It's his achilles heel, so to speak.

Ben Affleck kinda ruined the end of Good Will Hunting for me. When his character Chucky is knocking at Will's door and nobody's answering. And it finally hits him that Will left. His way of trying to convey to the audience that he'd figured it out may as well have been him going, "Well how about that! Will left! I'll be darned" because his facial expressions were just kinda stupid and overemphasized.

Oh, Bill Murray. Good one

[cookiepuss]

Ben Affleck kinda ruined the end of Good Will Hunting for me. When his character Chucky is knocking at Will's door and nobody's answering. And it finally hits him that Will left. His way of trying to convey to the audience that he'd figured it out may as well have been him going, "Well how about that! Will left! I'll be darned" because his facial expressions were just kinda stupid and overemphasized.

Ben went to William Shater's school of overacting. in general I find his delivery to be either too forced or too dramatic.

[enree erzweglle]

I don't know if they're underrated, but I'd like to see more of these people:
Philip Seymour Hoffman (he's on my mind because of Capote)
Marcia Gay Harden
Edward Norton
Oliver Platt
Jeremy Irons
Gary Oldman
Toni Collette
Guy Pearce
Rene Russo

overrated or they just get on my nerves:
Ben Affleck
Naomi Watts
Selma Hayek
Tom Cruise
Pierce Brosnan
Nicole Kidman
Halle Barry
Penelope Cruz
Demi Moore

[synch]

Ooooh, Bill Murray, yes. Definetly.

Loved Life Aquatic by the way.

Wes Anderson is an underrated director. But that's a whole different thread.

[mickill]

I don't know if they're underrated, but I'd like to see more of these people:
Philip Seymour Hoffman (he's on my mind because of Capote) agree
Marcia Gay Harden agree
Edward Norton agree
Oliver Platt not really
Jeremy Irons sometimes
Gary Oldman yes
Toni Collette agree
Guy Pearce definitely
Rene Russo sometimes, but not really

overrated or they just get on my nerves:
Ben Affleck yes
Naomi Watts no, I kinda like her
Selma Hayek YES
Tom Cruise I don't mind him
Pierce Brosnan don't really care either way
Nicole Kidman i like her
Halle Barry agree
Penelope Cruz agree, but then, she's hardly around much now
Demi Moore same as above

[Lex Diamonds]

Underrated: Francis from Malcolm in the Middle (I've no idea who this guy is but he's a joker)

Bad: Leonardo DiCaprio (he's fuckin shit! Stop ruining Scorsese's career you talentless pretty-boy cunt!)

[synch]

DiCaprio is severely underrated. Go see What's Eating Gilbert Grape and tell me again that he's overrated.

Titanic ruined the guy's image as a serious actor but he's very talented.

[mickill]

Bad: Leonardo DiCaprio (he's fuckin shit! Stop ruining Scorsese's career you talentless pretty-boy cunt!)

I think that his performance (and that of a few of the other actors's, namely Cate Blanchett's) was the one thing about the Aviator that I really cared for. Oh, and the big crash was pretty sweet.

Yeah, DiCaprio's kinda slept on. Same with Mark Wahlberg. That guy's got skillz.

[Documad]

God, I never seem to watch movies anymore. I used to have tons on underrated actors on my list but they all get loads of work now.

I can never get enough Judy Davis though because even when she's in a horrid movie she's interesting.

I think Tom Cruise is underrated as much as he bugs me as a person. But I haven't seen his last few movies so that might not be accurate anymore. He used to be able to take a standard movie and make it pretty good. And I even liked Vanilla Sky.

DeNiro is overrated. I am almost always disappointed in his movies.

[Lex Diamonds]

DiCaprio is severely underrated. Go see What's Eating Gilbert Grape and tell me again that he's overrated.
Okay so he's alright in that ONE movie. But saying he's a distinguished actor is like saying MC Hammer is a sick MC.

To me, he's one of these young actors who have studied old time, classic actors too much instead of making their own styles and techniques, and what comes out is a load of clichés and pouting.

[cookiepuss]

Yeah, DiCaprio's kinda slept on. Same with Mark Wahlberg. That guy's got skillz.

I <3 the marky mark! He'd be in my underrated category, for sure. His role in I <3 huckabees was the main reason I liked that movie so much.

[mickill]

Okay so he's alright in that ONE movie. But saying he's a distinguished actor is like saying MC Hammer is a sick MC.

To me, he's one of these young actors who have studied old time, classic actors too much instead of making their own styles and techniques, and what comes out is a load of clichés and pouting.
He's quite good in The Basketball Diaries, Romeo + Juliet, Marvin's Room and even Catch Me If You Can.

And yeah, Wahlberg is the best part about I <3 Huckabees for sure.

[Lex Diamonds]

It all comes down to opinion. Personally I find DiCaprio an annoying little bellend in all the films you just listed, and to me he is the reason Scorsese's last two films have failed to compete with most of his previous work.

EDIT: Waaah, you people like Wahlberg too? I'm wasting my time in this thread!

[roosta]

Wahlberg in Boogie Nights = (y)

good to see more love for Bill muthafuckin' Murray (as GZA calls him in Coffee and Cigarettes). "Life Aquatic" is amazing, as is his work in Royal Tenebaums and Lost in Translation. THE FUCKING MAN

[Lex Diamonds]

Ahh, Bill Murray, now we're talkin'. :D (y)

[DroppinScience]

Ahh, Bill Murray, now we're talkin'. :D (y)

"Bill Murray is the funniest man on the planet!" - Bill Haverchuk, "Freaks and Geeks"

Truer words have never been spoken...

[TurdBerglar]

He's quite good in The Basketball Diaries, Romeo + Juliet, Marvin's Room and even Catch Me If You Can.

And yeah, Wahlberg is the best part about I <3 Huckabees for sure.


he was the fuckn' man in what's eating gilbert grape. nailed being a retard down!

[cookiepuss]

nailed being a retard down!

are you speaking form your vast experience of retardedness?

[Lex Diamonds]

are you speaking form your vast experience of retardedness?
OHHHH! BURN!

[DroppinScience]

Anyways, I'm not too sure who I could list for all the "good" and "bad" actors that aren't already pretty standard (we all know DeNiro is the best and that Keanu Reeves can't act) or previously talked about, so I may as well discuss some "underrated" actors...

Jeff Goldblum being one. That guy cracks me up. :D

Also, pick any character actor and they will all wind up on the underrated list. My personal picks would be Bob Balaban (http://movies.infinitecoolness.com/05/close05.jpg) (my favorite role is in "Close Encouters of the Third Kind" as the interpreter for the French scientist). He just is the man.

And Peter Coyote (http://www.motherjones.com/news/special_reports/election_96/coyote_smarmy.gif) (he was Keys, the benevolent scientist, in "E.T.") is also a hidden treasure.

And Dick Miller (http://www.cinefania.com/pics/personas/2/2354.jpg) is also criminally underrated. He was in scores of B-movies in the '50s and was put to great use in the "Gremlins" movies (the old guy who has that disdain for "foreign cars," "foreign TVs", etc.).

I know a lot of people have used Philip Seymour Hoffman, William H. Macy, Steve Buscemi, etc. as "underrated," but let's be real. They've been having a really good run with their character types that they've since elevated past underrated.

[cookiepuss]

Peter Coyote (http://www.motherjones.com/news/special_reports/election_96/coyote_smarmy.gif) (he was Keys, the benevolent scientist, in "E.T.") is also a hidden treasure.

not only that but Pete seems to be a nice guy. When I was an event planner for the Asian Art Museum in SF, he came to one of fundraisers for a hospice type program and was a guest speaker. I was standing by the door that night when he left and he turned to me and said "hey, Good Night!" Most celebrity types don't speak to the staff you know. they just walk out with thier entourage and security.

I also worked Ed Burns and Christy turlington's wedding reception and they didnt say shit to me. (ed burns drunken sister was a real bitch though, I had the pleasure of speaking with her because she lost her fucking cell phone. so drunk she couldn't stand up straight.) -oh... shit...humm I signed a waiver that said I wouldn't discuss that wedding. oh well.

[Lex Diamonds]

Pete seems to be a nice guy.
I'm Nicer than Pete
But I'm on a Serch to crush a Milkbone
I'm Everlast-ing
I melt Vanilla Ice like Silicone

[DroppinScience]

not only that but Pete seems to be a nice guy. When I was an event planner for the Asian Art Museum in SF, he came to one of fundraisers for a hospice type program and was a guest speaker. I was standing by the door that night when he left and he turned to me and said "hey, Good Night!" Most celebrity types don't speak to the staff you know. they just walk out with thier entourage and security.

Yeah, I'm not surprised to hear that. Coyote is a class-act! (y)

[Auton]

Wes Anderson is an underrated director. But that's a whole different thread.

you're kidding right?

I pretty much agree with everybody here except about Tom cruise... he's a complete moron, but I like his acting. and Brad Pitt is one one of my absolute favorite actors.

oh, and Paul Giamatti's great.

[synch]

Do you mean that he's shit or that he is highly rated?

[Auton]

I like him alot, but am super sick of hearing about him.

[synch]

I see. I never hear of him over here so I don't suffer from the same overexposure.

Not many people in Holland seem to know of his movies.

[Auton]

that's too bad.

boy are his soundtracks good or what?

[synch]

Heh, always absolutely spot on.

[enree erzweglle]

Underrated: Francis from Malcolm in the Middle (I've no idea who this guy is but he's a joker)

Bad: Leonardo DiCaprio (he's fuckin shit! Stop ruining Scorsese's career you talentless pretty-boy cunt!)
The kid from Malcolm--he does deliver humor well, very deadpan and I like that.

About Leonardo DiCaprio--I think he's talented. For a long time, I didn't like him because I blurred the line between his roles/the actor and the person he seems to be in real life. synch is right (below) when he raises Gilbert Grape; DiCaprio was wonderful in that role.

[marsdaddy]

Good: Sean Penn
Bad: Jessica Alba -- "eye candy" value drops everytime she opens her mouth.
Underrated: Christian Bale

DiCaprio and Wahlberg were amazing in Basketball Diaries -- and MC Hammer was a sick MC.

[jackrock]

GOOD: Goofy
BAD: minnie
UNDERRATED: donald duck

[Tzar]

anyone mentioned tom hanks??

morgan freeman is the shit. him and harrison ford are my top two.

bad; paul walker

underrated; hugo weaving

[hardnox71]

Good: Johnny Depp. From Pirates of the Carribbean to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to Edward Scissorhands.........I like that he's not afraid to read a script and say, "I'll give it a shot." Everytime you see him you know it's gonna be something you haven't seen before. That's cool.

Bad: Vin Diesel. Enough said.

Underrated: John Leguizamo by far. He is, right now, a B/C list actor with A list potential. If he gets hold of the right role like Jamie Foxx did with Ray there is no limit to where he can go.

[HotAndWet]

orlando is such eye candy it's not even funny. nobody cares what he says cause he's pretty.

I still don't understand his appeal looks wise, he's very feminine looking to me. :confused:

[mickill]

As far as this current generation of actors go, I think there's a lot of really good ones, but very few great ones. And we don't have any real icons as in previous generations. We don't have a DeNiro or a Pacino or a Brando or a Newman or a Nicholson or a Hepburn (either one) or a Meryl Streep. We have great actors left over from previous generations, but very few that are up and coming. I think that Viggo Mortensen and Denzel Washington are great. Same with Hilary Swank and Uma Thurman. They have potential, but who knows.

[CrankItUp!]

Holy Grail Level : Beavis and Butthhead


Good : Uma Thurman - some people don't like her, but I've liked her since her first movie Johnny Be Good (1988) w/ Anthony Michael Hall. Also in Batman & Robin as Poison Ivy, Pulp Fiction and of course Kill Bill I and II.

Pam Grier - she's just downright very cool since her Foxy Brown days and in Jackie Brown. She was also in Scream , Blacula , Scream waaay back in 1973. She always sported a sexy afro back in the 70's.

Jennifer Tilley - Bride Of Chucky
John Cusak - Better Off Dead , The Sure Thing , Say Anything , Hi-Fi
Jamie Presley - ooh la la babe!
Brad Pitt - Fight Club was the best
Annie Potts - Ghostbusters , Corvette Summer , Pretty In Pink
Jamie Gertz - The Lost Boys , Crossroads , Quicksilver

Bad : Pauly Shore - he was good once upon a long-ass time ago
Keanu Reeves
Chuck Norris
Sean Connery
Steven Seagal
Nicole Kidman
Amanda Peet
Clarissa Flockhart
Jon Bon Jovi - yeah that pussy-band frontman turned actor

Underrated : Jack Black - you gotta love this guy altogether - intense.

Jason Mewes - the fucker's got mad skillz! I think that he's even capable of "non-stoner" roles and fat-ass Kevin Smith wouldn't be shit right now without him.

Jason Lee - he's finally getting deservable props w/ Earl currently. Many people don't know that he was a pro skateboarder before his acting career. And co-founder of twin companies Stereo Skateboards and Stereo Clothing.

Jamie Foxx - the guy was fucking remarkable with his portrayal as Ray Charles.

Juliette Lewis - I like her acting AND her singing ( Juliette & The Licks ) - so fuck you guys who don't. I'm not kissing any ass for approval and I bet that she could kick even any dude's ass too.

[buddylee]

Jennifer Tilley Her baby voice is just crazy (baby-talkn-bitch)
Dep what has he done latly other than suck.

the new guy on the block johnny knocksville! he's like the new Clint Eastwood, and dont even talk shit about him

[Documad]

underrated; hugo weaving
Good one!

Peter Coyote bugs the shit out of me because he's the announcer at every awards show. I know the guy has to eat but it seems like he'll do ANYTHING for a buck.

[jabumbo]

Juliette Lewis - I like her acting AND her singing ( Juliette & The Licks ) - so fuck you guys who don't. I'm not kissing any ass for approval and I bet that she could kick even any dude's ass too.


i always sort of hated her voice, but other than that i just love it when she is in pretty much anything (y)

[DroppinScience]

Good one!

Peter Coyote bugs the shit out of me because he's the announcer at every awards show. I know the guy has to eat but it seems like he'll do ANYTHING for a buck.

But come on, he slays when he's the announcer at awards shows! I remember when he announced the Oscars (in 2001?) and they even had the camera pan to him. That was awesome! :D

[Documad]

But come on, he slays when he's the announcer at awards shows! I remember when he announced the Oscars (in 2001?) and they even had the camera pan to him. That was awesome! :D
He does it every year for every show. His voice bothers me now. :mad:

I used to confuse him with the father on Picket Fences who I like much better.

[jabumbo]

I used to confuse him with the father on Picket Fences who I like much better.


you mean the police chief guy? cause i always thought he was a jerk when watching that show

[Documad]

you mean the police chief guy? cause i always thought he was a jerk when watching that show
Yeah, but he was also in MASH (the movie) (with Donald Sutherland).

[miss_bhaven]

How about the over-rated, I'm thinking Nicole Kidman...I dislike her acting with a passion...Yet a large amount of people like her...I just don't see it? :confused:

[miss_bhaven]

Good: Johny depp. one of the best actors going today. amazing range...can pull the most bizarre characters out of the depths of this mind. he has NO fear when accepting the most challenging roles. he could give 2 shits about popularity....and he has decades more to go....

Agreed (y) He was the perfect actor in Pirates of the Caribbean :D

[miss_bhaven]

Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt(to me) are extremlly overated...not bad....but overated

Agreed :mad:

[miss_bhaven]

Bad: Jessica Alba -- "eye candy" value drops everytime she opens her mouth.


Jessica Alba =P~~~~~~ mMmMm Yummai~!!

[Tzar]

As far as this current generation of actors go, I think there's a lot of really good ones, but very few great ones. And we don't have any real icons as in previous generations. We don't have a DeNiro or a Pacino or a Brando or a Newman or a Nicholson or a Hepburn (either one) or a Meryl Streep. We have great actors left over from previous generations, but very few that are up and coming. I think that Viggo Mortensen and Denzel Washington are great. Same with Hilary Swank and Uma Thurman. They have potential, but who knows.
FUCK! how could i forget.. yeah add these two to my favourites.

[avignon]

Good- Angela Bassett, Renee Zelwegger (if you don't think so, you didn't see Cold Mountain), Uma Thurman, Michelle Yeoh, Claire Forlani, Michelle Rodriguez (was excellent in Girl Fight but hasn't had any good roles since), Steve Buscemi, William H. Macy, Steve Zahn (very funny guy), too many too mention.
Bad- Billy Bob Thorton
Underrated- I think my Good list includes those I would mention as underrated.
Overrated- Matthew McConaughey


You can't praise Bill Murray without mentioning Harold Ramis at least once in this thread.

[skinnybutphat]

Good: John Turturro
Bad: Jessica Alba
Underrated: Don Cheadle

I remember driving to work 1 day and I heard on the radio that there was an open casting call for that movie with Richard Gere. They wanted a 6' tall male, with brown hair, early 20s, and they were looking for an unknown. I thought I should ditch, I could have been Edward Norton.

[mickill]

Good: John Turturro
Bad: Jessica Alba
Underrated: Don Cheadle

Excellent. In a perfect world John Tuturro and Don Cheadle would have 5 Oscars each.

Avignon, I don't really think Billy Bob Thorton is a bad actor at all. He was probably more in his prime during the late 90's, but he's still very good these days. I don't know who could have pulled off his role in Bad Santa better than he did. And he's barely recognizable in films like Sling Blade and U-Turn.

[avignon]

Excellent. In a perfect world John Tuturro and Don Cheadle would have 5 Oscars each.

Avignon, I don't really think Billy Bob Thorton is a bad actor at all. He was probably more in his prime during the late 90's, but he's still very good these days. I don't know who could have pulled off his role in Bad Santa better than he did. And he's barely recognizable in films like Sling Blade and U-Turn.
Bad Santa? Come on. And now he's playing almost the same role in Bad News Bears. Let me tell you, he's no Walter Mathau. He was all right in A Simple Plan though.

[mickill]

Hey man, he had a very tough role to play in Bad Santa. He put his heart into that.

[skinnybutphat]

Hey, even Billy Bob needs to pull in an extra check every now and again to get his rugs cleaned.

[avignon]

The midget dude in Bad Santa, now there is an underrated actor for you.

[Tzar]

Bad Santa was fucking funny!!
yeah Don Cheadle is the fucking man too.

he's a mega bad ass in Swordfish.

[Bob]

oh god, i forgot about hugo weaving. i've only ever seen him in the matrix and lord of the rings, but i used to be nuts about him, in a very heterosexual way

[enree erzweglle]

Steve Buscemi

Good one. I forgot about him. I LOVE him.

I didn't mention actors like Nicholson, Hoffman, Pacino because it's sort of like when everyone puts Hendrix and Clapton on their list of top guitarists--most would agree that they're givens.

Maybe I'd add William H. Macy to my list of enjoyable/good actors.

[The Notorious LOL]

big ups to my nigga Phillip Seymour Hoffman

[Gareth]

DMX is vastly underrated.

[cosmo105]

Kevin Spacey can suck it.

[g-mile7]

this is a great thread (y) (y)

[mickill]

Kevin Spacey can suck it.
Hell yes he can. For every John Doe and Verbal Kint (a vastly overrated performance, btw) there's ten roles in garbage like K-Pax and Pay It Forward.

[cosmo105]

K-Pax. god, fucking K-Pax.

[DroppinScience]

Kevin Spacey was awesome in "American Beauty" though. I also dug him in "The Negotiator."

[cosmo105]

American Beauty was the most overrated piece of shit mediocre masturbatory look-at-me-i-like-intellectual-cinema cumfest and Spacey made it that much more nauseating. fucking hated that movie.

[mickill]

Kevin Spacey was awesome in "American Beauty" though. I also dug him in "The Negotiator."
Of course you did. ;) Huh? ;) Right? ;)

Yeah, American Beauty pretty much an overrated piece of shit mediocre masturbatory look-at-me-i-like-intellectual-cinema cumfest, dude. But that's just my opinion.

[DroppinScience]

Of course you did. ;) Huh? ;) Right? ;)

Yeah, American Beauty pretty much an overrated piece of shit mediocre masturbatory look-at-me-i-like-intellectual-cinema cumfest, dude. But that's just my opinion.

You mean you couldn't come up with different negative adjectives than Cosmo? Are you running out of steam, Mike?

And why are you winking at me? :confused:

[cosmo105]

i think mikey's missing a verb or five in that sentence.

[mickill]

SHuttup the both of yous just shut your big fat pie holez

[synch]

I liked American Beauty.

Sorry about that.

[cookiepuss]

I liked American Beauty.

Sorry about that.

me too. :o

we suck and aparently we are big fans of masterbatory cinema.

[synch]

Doesn't sound that bad if you ask me!

[Tzar]

American Beauty was the most overrated piece of shit mediocre masturbatory look-at-me-i-like-intellectual-cinema cumfest and Spacey made it that much more nauseating. fucking hated that movie.
the only bit i liked was when he got wasted.
everyone likes seeing stupid characters get wasted.

underrated: James Woods - i reckon he's a sly bastard but good. (y)

[CrankItUp!]

Yeah, James Woods is a pretty good actor even though I can't think of any movies he was in.

[Tzar]

Yeah, James Woods is a pretty good actor even though I can't think of any movies he was in.
there's tonnes. his role in scary movie two was pretty funny.

[CrankItUp!]

I've been told that I actually look like the dude (when I'm clean shaven) - how scary is that ?

[JimmyTheScumbag]

Good - Errol lynn
Bad - Rock Hudson, because he's a homo
Underated - Freddie Prinze, Sr.

[Nuzzolese]

Good: Sigourney Weaver
Bad: Drew Barrymore.
Underrated: Joan Allen. She can totally transform herself for her roles.

[marsdaddy]

Did anyone mention Mark Ruffalo? He's extremely underrated.

[thegoodmrbrodie!]

i think matt damon is surprisingly good. certainly better than many people give him credit. so that makes him underrated i guess.
bad. um. owen wilson. i like the guy, but he doesnt seem to act very often.
good. taye diggs. love him in go & equilibrium. and way of the gun. i guess he is technically underrated too. hmm...good. jeff bridges. maybe.

[fucktopgirl]

good:harrison ford (y) (han solo,indiana jones.c'mon)jim carrey,al pacino,cate blanchet,sigourney weaver,w2oody harreslson,scarlet johanson,bill murray

bad:nicholas cages(well,just cannot stand him),,,all thoses teen pop shitty singer that try to make movies

underated:matthew mcconauhed


sorry about my spelling,, :o

[mickill]

I like Owen Wilson, personally. I don't think he does a whole lot of "acting" per se, but he's charming enough to pull off most if not all of his roles. His performance in The Cable Guy was par excellence. Par excellence.

But I agree that Matt Damon gets a bad wrap for no reason really other than his affiliation to Ben Affleck.

[DandyFop]

American Beauty was the most overrated piece of shit mediocre masturbatory look-at-me-i-like-intellectual-cinema cumfest and Spacey made it that much more nauseating. fucking hated that movie.

don't you mean Donnie Darko?

[fucktopgirl]

yea the cable guy,Jim carrey was a really good in it!!

Owen Wilson,o forgot him,,he is really a sweetheart!the charm in all is form!

ben stiller too is really good and funny

Really like "meet the parents"stupid but some funny stuff! :D

[Drederick Tatum]

oh, and Paul Giamatti's great.

good call. he would've been underrated before Sideways but now since everyone finally knows his name he's just good.

I think Kevin Costner gets a bad wrap. sure he's been in a lot of crap but I thought Open Range was actually pretty good. I don't think he's particularly good or underrated just misunderstood perhaps.

[Drederick Tatum]

Jeff Bridges is pretty good too. he's good in Cutter's Way, The Last Picture Show, The Fisher King, The Big Lebowski, TRON, etc although he was in K-Pax.

[little j]

i thought they spoke english in BC?

anyway.

good: edward norton (i feel like im just repeating, but i've loved him long time), bill murray, but i miss the caddyshack days. matt damon. i thought he was excellent in the bourne films and stuck on you was funny. he has good versatility.

bad: jennifer lopez. cant sing cant act, but she's obviously good at sucking. vin diesel. although hes so nice to look at he cant act for shit.

underrated: topher grace i think he has great potential. um adam sandler. i think alot of people write him off as retarded...but he's growing into himself more in his recent roles. elijah wood is going to do great things. joaquin Phoenix i like him, he's subtle.

[fucktopgirl]

well yes they do speak english in b.c

my english is not the best,cuz i am french ,from quebec.
i know this is not a reason,,but i guess it's a fact!

but i dont think that i am that bad :D

chevy chase too is pretty funny,but he seem to have dissapear from planet earth!

[sjp]

Eddie Murphy used to be great now is underrated i mean come on pluto nash was awesome

the good has to be clint eastwood still great

the bad the guy that was in the movie paparazzi

[icy manipulator]

i think any actor that can say alot without saying much is a good actor if you know what i mean

bad, ben fucking affleck and paul fucking walker, i wanna punch those 2

underated, christian bale, ron rifkin, victor garber

[cosmo105]

don't you mean Donnie Darko?
now, i like Donnie Darko, but i do think it's overrated. and a lot of people bash it for the wrong reasons - because too many people jizz about it. it's not the best movie ever made, but i dig it.

[DandyFop]

I just watched a film with some amazing acting - "All The Real Girls" with Paul Schneider and Zooey Deschenal (who I usually think is meh) This movie just came outta nowhere on some cable channel, but it was so so good. A lot of long shots that I kinda sat back and was blown away by. It's about a guy who falls for his best friend's sister, but...they way they did the film was a bit atypical and extremely character driven. Check it out.

[discopants]

GOOD: Ben Kingsley. Have you seen Sexy Beast, he deserved an Oscar for that.Enjoy this foul mouthed quote.

Don: Shut up, cunt. You louse. You got some fuckin' neck ain't you. Retired? Fuck off, you're revolting. Look at your suntan, it's leather, it's like leather man, your skin. We could make a fucking suitcase out of you. Like a crocodile, fat crocodile, fat bastard. You look like fucking Idi Amin, you know what I mean? Stay here? You should be ashamed of yourself. Who do you think you are? King of the castle? Cock of the walk?
[He gut-punches Gal]
Don: What you think this is the wheel of fortune? You think you can make your dough and fuck off? Leave the table? Thanks Don, see you Don, off to sunny Spain now Don, fuck off Don. Lying in your pool like a fat blob laughing at me, you think I'm gonna have that? You really think I'm gonna have that, ya ponce. All right, I'll make it easy for you. God knows you're fucking trying. Are you gonna do the job? It's not a difficult question, are you gonna do the job, yes or no?

BAD: Orlando Bloom. Hardly original it justs offends me how lame this prick is. He never does a film that doesn't involve seords or tights and shit.

UNDERATED: James Mason. He's dead but he was the best actor of his generation.

[Nadia]

OUTSTANDING: Christian Bale! You obviously didn't see American Psycho and The Machinist!!! C'mon!
Good: Kevin Spacey, Morgan Freeman, Ed Norton
Bad: Brendan Fraser, The Rock and of course Vin Diesel
Underrated: Christian Bale

[fucktopgirl]

you are so true Nadia

Chhristain Bale is the BOMB

what a man! :p

he is a good actor,maybe underated,but now he is the next batman,,so that might propulse him in the shitty hollywood fame!

hoppefully is gonna stay true to himself!! :)
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[ToucanSpam]

Okay


Good:
Johhny Depp
Sean Connery
Harrison Ford (although he hasn't done much lately...)
Liam Neeson (big fan of his)
both Masterson brothers (Danny and Chris, both on FOX's 70 Show and Malcolm in the middle respectively)
Patrick Stewart (I hate Star Trek but that doesn't mean he isn't a hell of an actor
Ian McKellen (maybe the best Shakespearean actor of our time)
Kirsten Dunst (good eye candy, but I think she's pretty good acting)
Uma Thurman
Michael Clark Duncan
Clive Owen (King Arthur was shitty)
Bruce Willis (yeah!)

Bad:
Catherine Zeta-Jones (same thing every role)
Will Smith
Russel Crowe (despite Gladiator being so fucking awsome, I dont like his other roles)
Pierce Brosnan (He's just Bond to everyone)
Orlando Bloom



Underrated:
David Thewlis (only part of Kingdom of Heaven I enjoyed)
Christian Bale
Sean Bean (one of my top 3 favorites)
Billy Zane
Elijah Wood

[avignon]

Bill Paxton sucks. Chet in Weird Science was his best role.

[mickill]

He was better in True Lies.

[avignon]

Well yeah. And I loved the one where he was killing demons with that axe.

But he still sucks!

[marsdaddy]

Did anyone mention Mark Ruffalo? He's extremely underrated.
Along those lines, Laura Linney, too.

[abcdefz]

^

We keep championing those two.


How about Ryan Gosling? Man, that kid's good.

[mickill]

I like Laura Linney. She's like a Julianne Moore to me. I don't think either of them get enough recognition.

Mark Ruffalo on the other hand, he just ruined '13 Going On 30' for me.

[abcdefz]

Bad:
Russel Crowe (despite Gladiator being so fucking awsome, I dont like his other roles)





Get thee to The Insider. You may not like the character, but it's a home run performance.

And movie. And an outstanding Pacino performance. Just great, great stuff.


A-.


(y) (y)

[mickill]

Russel Crowe is a fine actor. He may be a prick in real life, but his acting ability more than makes up for it.

[marsdaddy]

Mark Ruffalo on the other hand, he just ruined '13 Going On 30' for me.I was surprised he didn't get the Oscar nomination, at least. He had me believing he was a pre-pubescent teen.
Get thee to The Insider. You may not like the character, but it's a home run performance.That might be the role of his lifetime, though. For every Gladiator, he has a Beautiful Mind, too.

I think Gandolfini is Good and Underrated, at the same time. Yeah, yeah, he's Tony Soprano, but he was also the big lug in Get Shorty -- that's range.

[abcdefz]

I'm not sure if any artistic achievement justifies being a prick, but... yeah; the guy's got pretty major chops.

[abcdefz]

That might be the role of (Russel Crowe's) lifetime, though. For every Gladiator, he has a Beautiful Mind, too.





...first time I noticed him was in The Quick and the Dead. Terrific job.

[ToucanSpam]

...first time I noticed him was in The Quick and the Dead. Terrific job.
That was a fantastic movie. DiCaprio's best performance?

[Mr_Complex]

Good:

Benicio Del Toro
Johnny Depp
Clive Owen
Christian Bale

Bad:

Ummm.

Underrated:

Daniel Day Lewis.

[Mr_Complex]

Bad:

Scarlet Johansson (sp?)

I happen to think that The Aviator was one of the best films last year and one of the best films of the new Millennium.

[mickill]

Good:

Benicio Del Toro

Underrated:

Daniel Day Lewis.
Perfect.

I'd like to add Sean Penn. He and Daniel Day Lewis are probably two of my absolute favorites. Not saying they're the absolute best, but definitely favorites.

[Mr_Complex]

Daniel Day Lewis couldn't have played Bill 'The Butcher' anymore perfectly.

[abcdefz]

That was a fantastic movie. DiCaprio's best performance?




It's up there; I'm glad someone else recognizes it. His last scene was the one that cemented it, kind of like Depp's last scene in Don Juan de Marco.

[abcdefz]

Perfect.

I'd like to add Sean Penn. He and Daniel Day Lewis are probably two of my absolute favorites. Not saying they're the absolute best, but definitely favorites.




...did you see The Assassination of Richard Nixon? He was really, really good in that.

[mickill]

Not yet, but I was gonna buy it used for 10 bucks. I wan't sure if it was just more of a renter. I ended up buying Team America instead.

[abcdefz]

Not yet, but I was gonna buy it used for 10 bucks. I wan't sure if it was just more of a renter. I ended up buying Team America instead.


It is more of a renter, actually; I can't imagine needing it on DVD, unless you're Gramma Penn.

I was sorely disappointed the second time I saw Team America. No replay value for me at all.

[icy manipulator]

I like Laura Linney. She's like a Julianne Moore to me. I don't think either of them get enough recognition.

Mark Ruffalo on the other hand, he just ruined '13 Going On 30' for me.
mark ruffalo doesn't deserve to play a role where he gets to hook up with jennifer garner. he's over rated, and he's shit in the Last Castle too.

for some reason 13 going 0n 30 is called Suddenly 30 over here. i love that film just for the soundtrack :o

[na§tee]

woah woah - i brought up this hella old thread to say that julia stiles is truly a terrible, terrible actor but why the mark ruffalo hate? i love him.

anyway. yes. julia stiles = pretty turd. also, scarlett johansson.

some of the most under-rated british actors are michael sheen, david tennant and rhys ifans (no, not the shitty films he's been forced to do - watch him as peter cook in not only but always).

but michael sheen is the best. if you don't know who he is, that's good.

[roosta]

Dead Man's Shoes is on telly and it just reminded me of Paddy Considine..

the man is fucking awesome, specifically in Dead Man's Shoes and A Rome For Romeo Brass. In ARFRB he is fucking terrifying.

I dont particularly like In America, but he was very good in that too.

And he was funny in Hot Fuzz!