Did any of you all know anyone that committed suicide?

[Anne Lauren]

I've been on the phone with my sister all night. Today will mark 7 years since her ex-boyfriend killed himself. She's extremely upset and I wish I knew how to comfort her.

See, my sister went out with this guy all through highschool. Infact, he was like her only boyfriend growing up. I never really cared for him because he was possessive, bossy, and I didn't particularly care for how he treated my sister. Anyway, when she started college, she started meeting new people, including guys. So, she decided to break up with him. I remember her calling me really upset and worried about him because he totally broke down and said he would kill himself. That he couldn't live without her, etc. I told her that he was basically full of shit and that he was being dramatic. Well, I remember my mom calling me shortly there after to tell me that he had killed himself. He showed up at her dorm room at like 6am. He had been up all night. He wouldn't leave. He followed her to her classes, broke into her car, etc. So, my mom called the police. Well, later that afternoon, my sister went out to her car and there he was, again. My sister said she was talking to him begging him to go home and that the police where looking for him. He aggreed to leave and got in his car. Then, my sister said all of the sudden he gases it and ran straight on into the side of the parking garage. He was going about 40 mph when he hit, so him and his car where mutilated. It took four hours to cut him out of the car. She said right after that she went into shock and passed out.

My parents took all the stuff that reminded her of him and put it in a box, so she wouldn't have to see them...like e-mails, letters, pictures, etc. Anyway, I found the box in the back of a closet at my parents house. It was so creepy and sad to read the stuff he wrote to her right before he killed himself. He was so lonley and desperate to be loved. That's so sad to me that someone feels that lost that they feel that there will never be happiness ever again in their future.

[TonsOfFun]

When I was around 8 or 9 years old, I went through a stage where I knew 3 people who commited suicide in the space of about 3 months - 2 of them knew each other (one of my teachers and her son) and the other just random really. I don't know the reasons apart from my teacher cus when her son did, she became depressed and wanted to be with him. She was a really young teacher as well.

I know of people that have also commited suicide and when the anniversays come around, it's always been a matter of being visable to them and giving them time. And do something different, but not too different. Like if you haven't been bowling for years, do that!

[Anne Lauren]

She'll be alright. She's a really strong person and she's lucky, unlike a lot of people, to have support with family and friends that care about her.

I've just been thinking a lot about how, Dennis, her ex, must have been feeling. I mean, I've gone through a really dark and lonley time before...after my miscarriage and my divorce immediately after. You seriously start to question your sanity. And everyone has felt that feeling before. If your able to survive it, it truely does make you a stronger person. However, it's the hardest thing anyone will ever have to overcome. You have to get a reason to carry on, even though, at the time, you don't see any. That's just so sad to me that he was unable to see the whole picture of the situation...things really weren't that bad.

[Calimero jr.]

Two guys I knew quite well committed suicide in the last two years..... (n) hard to forget.

[miss_bhaven]

If your able to survive it, it truely does make you a stronger person. However, it's the hardest thing anyone will ever have to overcome.

Agreed with becoming stronger (in mind respectively)

[Anne Lauren]

Two guys I knew quite well committed suicide in the last two years..... (n) hard to forget.

Wow! That's crazy!

[Anne Lauren]

Boy, that just made me feel a whole lot better...

I didn't mean for it to come across that way...sorry. :o

I guess, just because it's such a horrific thing that effects so many people...I couldn't imagine having to deal with it twice in such a short amount of time. Death is always hard to deal with because it's so final, but to lose someone close to you knowing that they were in a lot of pain and they felt no other alternative makes it harder to cope with because you feel a lot of regret...like maybe you could have helped them in some way and prevented it, but now you are too late.

[Anne Lauren]

Well, I think may be feeling something a bit similar to this guy. Besides the breakup, my future has really got me down. I have no desire to make art. I have no future in that. I'd like to do film and/or music, but I doubt that'll go anywhere. MY life has been one big waste and I see no future in my life. Minimum wage doesn't sound fun.

Death has been in my mind a lot this week.

Are you serious? I mean, not that I think you would joke about something like that...or atleast it would be really inappropriate.

[kll]

There were several kids I knew growing up that committed suicide. The first one was my freshman year of high school. His dad came home from work and pulled into the garage to find his son hanging in the garage. There was a note in his pocket along with a note from the math teacher informing his parents that he was failing math. To think that David Brown thought that failing math freshman year of high school, along with other things was the end of the world is so sad.
Ryan Pollack, who used to be an actor on Who's The Boss was "let go" from that acting gig and he drove his car off a cliff.
Audra Sommers was upset that her boyfriend had dumped her. She took her sandals off at the cliffs (yes, I obviously lived on the coast) and just jumped.
Doug McKee did the same thing. Drove his sports car to the cliffs, took off his shoes, left his car keys in his shoes and jumped.
Christian Loggins (nephew of Kenny Loggins) stepped off in front of a car and was dragged.

[tpk]

There were several kids I knew growing up that committed suicide. The first one was my freshman year of high school. His dad came home from work and pulled into the garage to find his son hanging in the garage. There was a note in his pocket along with a note from the math teacher informing his parents that he was failing math. To think that David Brown thought that failing math freshman year of high school, along with other things was the end of the world is so sad.
Ryan Pollack, who used to be an actor on Who's The Boss was "let go" from that acting gig and he drove his car off a cliff.
Audra Sommers was upset that her boyfriend had dumped her. She took her sandals off at the cliffs (yes, I obviously lived on the coast) and just jumped.
Doug McKee did the same thing. Drove his sports car to the cliffs, took off his shoes, left his car keys in his shoes and jumped.
Christian Loggins (nephew of Kenny Loggins) stepped off in front of a car and was dragged.damn.

[Anne Lauren]

There were several kids I knew growing up that committed suicide. The first one was my freshman year of high school. His dad came home from work and pulled into the garage to find his son hanging in the garage. There was a note in his pocket along with a note from the math teacher informing his parents that he was failing math. To think that David Brown thought that failing math freshman year of high school, along with other things was the end of the world is so sad.
Ryan Pollack, who used to be an actor on Who's The Boss was "let go" from that acting gig and he drove his car off a cliff.
Audra Sommers was upset that her boyfriend had dumped her. She took her sandals off at the cliffs (yes, I obviously lived on the coast) and just jumped.
Doug McKee did the same thing. Drove his sports car to the cliffs, took off his shoes, left his car keys in his shoes and jumped.
Christian Loggins (nephew of Kenny Loggins) stepped off in front of a car and was dragged.

Yeah, it's amazeing how relative people's problems are.

[abcdefz]

When I was around 8 or 9 years old, I went through a stage where I knew 3 people who commited suicide in the space of about 3 months - 2 of them knew each other (one of my teachers and her son) and the other just random really. I don't know the reasons apart from my teacher cus when her son did, she became depressed and wanted to be with him. She was a really young teacher as well.

I know of people that have also commited suicide and when the anniversays come around, it's always been a matter of being visable to them and giving them time. And do something different, but not too different. Like if you haven't been bowling for years, do that!




...suicide clusters aren't uncommon, which is why counselors and speakers are told to not try to rtionalize a suicide's grief or actions, but instead, flatly condemn it.

Funny enough, Courtney Love's demonstration (leading the "fuck you, Kurt" chant) might have been one of the most spiritually/psycologically healthy things she's ever done.

Me... I can often empathize with a suicide, so I'm not always the best person to turn to in those cases. I occasionally had someone from the church call me about someone else who had committed suicide, and they'd be saying, "Why on earth could anybody do that...!?"

Wow. If that's your reaction, and you genuinely have no frame of reference for real despair, you've led a pretty blessed life. Count your blessings, mon. (y)

[CrankItUp!]

Yeah, I'm quite serious. I think I came close to a mental breakdown or something like that last night while at work. It's not easy right now.
Just remember that suicide is a permanent fix to a temporary problem. Just trust in God that there WILL be better days definitely ahead for you. (y)

[Rock]

The day this dude I knew bought a gun, someone said "He is going to accidentally shoot someone or shoot himself."

He shot some kid in the leg, got into a car chase in North Carolina. Finally pulled over, stepped out of the car and put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. The End.

[cosmo105]

My half-brother's mom has a friend whose daughter hung herself because her boyfriend broke up with her. The mother found her daughter hanging from an electrical cord she used as a noose wrapped around an overhang in her garden...she was only about 19 or so.

Stupid, stupid stupid waste. Needless.

[CrankItUp!]

YOU GUYS ! PLEASE QUIT GIVING PEOPLE IDEAS OF SUICIDE. (n)

[cosmo105]

oh please. if someone wants to do it, he or she is going to do it, regardless of suggestion of methods.

[voltanapricot]

My next door neighbour threw himself in front of a train when his wife left him. I sometimes think about that little kid he left behind.

[wanton wench]

WARNING big long rambling post ahead! (but it has a happy ending)

i've been avoiding this thread all day! but here goes.............
one of my dearest friends in high school "attempted" suicide! i know its not the same thing! she was going through a really hard time. dealing with a lot of family things and one evening she slit her wrists. she did it the "right" way. she would have died if her mom had not found her. they took her to the hospital. then to a drug rehab! this still confuses me. why a drug rehab? she was not on any drugs. i guess it was the only thing around. anyway we didnt see or hear from her for months. they hardly let her mom see her. she was one of my best friends. i was so sad and worried. and when they let her out i got to see her one time and then that was it. they told her she could not be around any of her old friends. we were not the problem! we were the only ones trying to help her, but we couldnt give her what she needed. she couldnt make any of her own decisions she couldnt go out of the house alone. i always tried to see her even if just for a minute. i totally understand why she did it. i know its selfish but all i wanted was to tell her that and give her a hug, so she knew she was not alone but i never got the chance! i always thought about her and tried to send her good energy. then years later i saw her! and she was really happy! she had a really good life. first time in my life that i cried from happiness!

[CrankItUp!]

oh please. if someone wants to do it, he or she is going to do it, regardless of suggestion of methods.
not true.

[ToucanSpam]

A young fellow who plays football at an American University (I cannot remember the name of the university right now) commited suicide today at age 21.


21.


Waste.

[cosmo105]

no one here is saying "THIS IS HOW YOU DONE CUT YOURSELF UP GOOD!"

we're just relating stories.

if someone had no inclination to attempt suicide in the first place, he or she is not going to be swayed by hearing how others have tried it. if someone wants to do it already...it doesn't matter by then, does it?

[kll]

OHH, that reminds me... a friend of mine from high school who was on the U.S. Olympic Volleyball Team committed suicide after his career in volleyball was over. It was shocking because he was the sweetest, calmest, most put-together guy in high school. I don't know what happened to him mentally after h.s., but he went onto UCLA and had a great life ahead of him... at least you would think...

so sad.


these people will never feel blades of grass between their toes, warm sun on their face, will never smell fresh cut flowers or baking cookies, will never hear their mother's laughter ever again.

[ToucanSpam]

if someone had no inclination to attempt suicide in the first place, he or she is not going to be swayed by hearing how others have tried it. if someone wants to do it already...it doesn't matter by then, does it?

Do you mean that talking to someone who is thinking about commiting suicide and attempting to convince them not to commit suicide won't matter?

[cosmo105]

:(

everyone's been there at one point or another. i remember my ex thought he was courageous to go as far as he did to attempt it...i call it cowardice. running away from your problems, not appreciating what life does give you. and only focusing on what it hasn't.

[cosmo105]

Do you mean that talking to someone who is thinking about commiting suicide and attempting to convince them not to commit suicide won't matter?
that's not what i meant at all. read it again, son.

[ToucanSpam]

that's not what i meant at all. read it again, son.
I did a couple times and don't quite understand what you're saying. Could you clarify?

[b-grrrlie]

My best friend's son hung himself five years ago. He was 16. He felt unloved because he couldn't get a girlfriend and his parents had divorced. His sister jumped in front of the subway when she was 13, lost her leg and nearly bled to death. Luckily the hospital was close. She tried to slit her wrists and saved pills at the hospital to take an overdose. She failed at all these. He then showed how you really do die and after a party hung himself from a ladder outside the livingroom window. My friend's boyfriend saw him hanging there in the morning. He had a funeral parlour so he knew what to do with the body and the police and my friend.
At the funeral there was a girl that I didn't recognise, who was crying a lot. My friend said she had planned to go to the party and ask for a chance with my friend's son (meaning to go out with him), but then decided not to go...
Me and him were kindered spirits, we shared both Western and Eastern zodiac signs, he looked up at me cause I did what I wanted with my life and was so enthusiastic about music. They'd been living "away from the civilization" for a few years (they moved to the archipelago) and I was studying several hundred miles away so we didn't see each other that often anymore. I met him a couple of weeks before and noticed he was very depressed, but never thought he'd go that far. Kids always exagarate (sp?) things, good and bad.

I have been close to death at least four times, both by my own hand, illness or accident, and often I wonder why I'm still here, there has to be a meaning for it. Also I'm glad I didn't succeed the first time, the reason was so petty and I've experienced so much since then. Like the Beastie Boys.

My friend's daughter, she's now 20, has a two year old kid (named after her older brother) and got married last June...

[CrankItUp!]

no one here is saying "THIS IS HOW YOU DONE CUT YOURSELF UP GOOD!"

we're just relating stories.

if someone had no inclination to attempt suicide in the first place, he or she is not going to be swayed by hearing how others have tried it. if someone wants to do it already...it doesn't matter by then, does it?
Yes, it matters to any desperate person whom no one would even suspect.

[cosmo105]

I did a couple times and don't quite understand what you're saying. Could you clarify?
i was saying that if someone's NOT considering suicide and someone happens to talk about a method someone used, it's not going to change his or her mind about it and induce thoughts of "hey, maybe i should get me some of that suicide!"

if, however, someone already IS contemplating it, that's a different story.

i said nothing about trying to convince someone otherwise.

[ToucanSpam]

i was saying that if someone's NOT considering suicide and someone happens to talk about a method someone used, it's not going to change his or her mind about it and induce thoughts of "hey, maybe i should get me some of that suicide!"

if, however, someone already IS contemplating it, that's a different story.

i said nothing about trying to convince someone otherwise.
Sorry I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying.

[CrankItUp!]

oh please. if someone wants to do it, he or she is going to do it, regardless of suggestion of methods.
wrong.

[cosmo105]

i think you're misunderstanding me. if someone is inclined toward that already, sure, maybe the thought of that may spark a sudden drive to do it. but...fucking christ, it doesn't really matter, so get off it.

[CrankItUp!]

Don't give desperate people last minute ideas is what I'm saying. And I can empathize with that.

[cosmo105]

am i going to a suicide help messageboard and talking about it? is anyone here giving intricate details on the correct way to kill yourself that isn't already common knowledge? get off your high horse.

[CrankItUp!]

:)

[guerillaGardner]

Hang in there Norcen. If you are going through a hard time the most important thing is just to take some time to be good to yourself. Don't worry about art right now. It's not as important as your sense of wellbeing.

Can you use art as therapy for yourself if not as a part of your career? Paint or create or express visually how you feel. Use art to visualise healing. If you are worried about your art career combine your own healing with exploring art therapy as a career choice.

Don't worry about the future. Take some time to do things that make you feel good. Just be in the present. If you find your mind being dragged to the past make the memories all black and white and blurred in your head. Put music to the memory that seems out of context, makes it seem silly or ridiculous. Imagine what you would say to someone else in your situation. Write it down - it's therapeutic. You could write it from two points of view - a conversation between the suffering you and the wisened you.

One thing that I've realised looking back on past dark periods in my life is that I was too busy feeling bad to notice good stuff that I had in my life. In times when I thought my life was shitty there are things I took for granted not realising that they wouldn't always be there. But even now that they are gone other good stuff comes to replace them.

Bad times come. Bad times go. Same with good times.

[CrankItUp!]

Now - THAT was an excellent post ! (y) (y) (y)

[CrankItUp!]

Almost everyone has THOUGHT of suicide at one time or another (whether they will admit it or not) but DON'T actually carry it out. You've got too much going for you to wan't to die and are one of the more interesting people here. (y)

[sheesh]

A friend of mine that I played soccer with put a bullet in his head in high school. Sad. Very sad.

[ericlee]

When I came back home for my vacation I've just learned that one of my ex girlfriend's mom shot herself in the head in the basement of her house. She did a very good job of hiding her pain from people which made it so shocking.

Here's the long story of a different friend of mine. My friend's mother was married to a cop here in Port Clinton. In 1983, the husband of my friend's mother got a call that there was a fellow police chief who was suffering a heart attack in one of the islands of Lake Erie so he boarded a plane in hopes to rescue the man. The weather was very choppy and it was winter time which brought the plane crashing into the icy waters of Lake Erie.

Well, in 1992, my friend and I were taken to the skating rink in Sandusky Ohio by his mother, the widow of the cop who crashed into lake Erie. She was supposed to pick us up after we were finished skating but she never showed up.

Come to find out, that same night, she decided she wanted to end her life by driving her car into the icy waters of Lake Erie and that's why she didn't show up to pick us up from the skating rink.

She at the time was dating a local cop and she called him to meet her at the pier and when he showed up, she gunned her car into the lake which happened to be icy since it was in the early month of December.

R.I.P (http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=11277) Mr. Rigoni

[zorra_chiflada]

i tried to once

[QueenAdrock]

I didn't really know him, but I met him at "Take your kid to work day" in the 6th grade. His name was Jim, and he was my dad's co-worker's son. The co-worker had a gun in their house for protection, and my dad always told her to lock it up because it would only lead to problems.

Well, one day they decided to go to Jim's parent-teacher meeting at school, where the math teacher said he was getting a D in his class and was struggling. At that moment, Jim called them and told them that he was getting ready for bed and that he loved them. When they got back home, they walked into a mess in the hallway...he shot himself in the head at close range. It was the equivalent to the guy in the back of the car in Pulp Fiction, and I can't imagine what it was like for his mom to walk in on that.

The note said that he couldn't deal with having a D in his math class when he had straight-A's otherwise. He didn't know how to deal with being a "failure," and thought he wouldn't graduate or go on to be anything with that grade.

He was 14. :(