Debut Records [Archive] - Beastie Boys Message Board

Micodin

10-16-2005, 07:51 AM

Ok, I've always thought that debut records are usually their best offerings. Here are my examples... and I mean solo records... not groups. Please, offer your suggestions as well. Thanks.

Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Nas - Illmatic
Jay-Z - Resonable Doubt
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
Redman - Whut? The Album
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
GZA - Liquid Swords

Drederick Tatum

10-16-2005, 03:42 PM

Justin Timberlake-Justified

b-grrrlie

10-16-2005, 04:58 PM

Björk - Debut

Micodin

10-16-2005, 05:36 PM

yeah, good ones.

dopes.

cj hood

10-16-2005, 06:33 PM

beasties - lti

pshabi

10-16-2005, 08:07 PM

Drederick Tatum

10-17-2005, 03:05 AM

yeah, good ones.

dopes.

what are you talking about? both those albums we named are sweet.

synch

10-17-2005, 03:10 AM

I think he was waving gang signs at you while he typed that.

Considering his list I reckon he only expected hip hop albums.

He won't be interested to know that I think Jagged Little Pill was a great album only to be followed by uninteresting albums.

laura

10-17-2005, 06:24 AM

at the drive in
franz ferdinand
interpol

cj hood

10-17-2005, 08:38 AM

weezer - blue

Micodin

10-17-2005, 09:05 AM

Daft Punk - Homework
Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 09:08 AM

Guns N Roses-Appetite For Destruction
Motley Crue-Too Fast for Love
Dj Format-Music for the Mature B-Boy
The Mars Volta-De loused in the Cormatorium
Nirvana-Bleach
Kanye West-College Dropout

wait.....are we doing groups or not?

paul jones

10-17-2005, 09:23 AM

' Photo-shop moods' - Knuckles

mickill

10-17-2005, 09:33 AM

The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
Ice Cube - Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Nas - Illmatic
GZA - Liquid Swords
Redman - Whut? The Album
Jay-Z - Resonable Doubt

Junker

10-17-2005, 09:41 AM

Joe McIntyre - Stay the Same

(But I still prefer NKOTB debut album)

mickill

10-17-2005, 09:54 AM

What?

Jordan Knight's self-titled solo was way better. You must be high.

Junker

10-17-2005, 10:01 AM

What?

Jordan Knight's self-titled solo was way better. You must be high.

hmmmm.............Ya know........Now you put me in doubt... :confused:

mickill

10-17-2005, 10:06 AM

Why? Because I'm right? Of course I'm right!

And the NKOTB debut sucked, my friend. Sheesh.

Their sophmore album was far far superior.

Micodin

10-17-2005, 10:08 AM

I said solo records... but people started to throw in groups.

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 10:22 AM

Why? Because I'm right? Of course I'm right!

And the NKOTB debut sucked, my friend. Sheesh.

Their sophmore album was far far superior.

Was 'Hanging Tough' on the first one? Wasn't there some real hard ass RnB, right ear earring-wearing joint on one of them? One the Step by step shit. Or was that the show with Suzanne Somers?

Fuck.

mickill

10-17-2005, 11:28 AM

Was 'Hanging Tough' on the first one? Wasn't there some real hard ass RnB, right ear earring-wearing joint on one of them? One the Step by step shit. Or was that the show with Suzanne Somers?

Fuck.
Damn, dude. You really don't know your NKOTB. Here, let me school you, son. The debut sucked. Nuff said. The follow-up was Hangin Tough. That shit was classic. It featured such bangers as Please Don't Go Girl, I'll Be Lovin You Forever and the aformentioned Hangin Tough, as well as other serious heat. Step By Step was the third joint. It was alright. It showed a bit of progression, both musically and in terms of subject matter. Songs like Games showed that they hadn't lost their rawness, as well. Their final opus, Face The Music was perhaps their best work to date, but was seriously slept on. Guests and producers included Nice N Smooth, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. The album was fire. But Hangin Tough was and probably will always be known as the pinnacle of their many achievments in the biz.

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 11:36 AM

Damn, dude. You really don't know your NKOTB. Here, let me school you, son. The debut sucked. Nuff said. The follow-up was Hangin Tough. That shit was classic. It featured such bangers as Please Don't Go Girl, I'll Be Lovin You Forever and the aformentioned Hangin Tough, as well as other serious heat. Step By Step was the third joint. It was alright. It showed a bit of progression, both musically and in terms of subject matter. Songs like Games showed that they hadn't lost their rawness, as well. Their final opus, Face The Music was perhaps their best work to date, but was seriously slept on. Guests and producers included Nice N Smooth, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. The album was fire. But Hangin Tough was and probably will always be known as the pinnacle of their many achievments in the biz.

Then I'm talking about the street joint from Step by Step. Maybe it was games.

Protect Ya Neck had a very similar video.

Do the hook for me.

mickill

10-17-2005, 11:37 AM

Yeah man, it was Games. That shit was bananas.

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 11:38 AM

Yeah man, it was Games. That shit was bananas.

And then along came Jesus Jones, and they was my favourite shit.

Lex Diamonds

10-17-2005, 11:39 AM

Damn, dude. You really don't know your NKOTB. Here, let me school you, son. The debut sucked. Nuff said. The follow-up was Hangin Tough. That shit was classic. It featured such bangers as Please Don't Go Girl, I'll Be Lovin You Forever and the aformentioned Hangin Tough, as well as other serious heat. Step By Step was the third joint. It was alright. It showed a bit of progression, both musically and in terms of subject matter. Songs like Games showed that they hadn't lost their rawness, as well. Their final opus, Face The Music was perhaps their best work to date, but was seriously slept on. Guests and producers included Nice N Smooth, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. The album was fire. But Hangin Tough was and probably will always be known as the pinnacle of their many achievments in the biz.
This is how it started, I remember how you laughed
When you met Jason Orange and asked him for an autograph
Before that time it was NKOTB
To you they were the greatest and the fan club was free
You got the photos, the tapes and the t-shirt
But when they finally split up I could see how much it hurt
Then other boybands came along and stopped the pain
But somewhere deep inside amongst the sunshine there was rain

mickill

10-17-2005, 11:40 AM

Has anyone else mentioned the first Roxette album, Look Sharp? I mentioned it in some other thread. That's worth copping.

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 11:44 AM

Funcrusher Plus

mickill

10-17-2005, 11:52 AM

Long Live The Kane - Big Daddy Kane
Back To The Old School - Just Ice
Hour Of The Bewilderbeast - Badly Drawn Boy
Lust For Life - Iggy Pop
Five Leaves Left - Nick Drake
Entroducing - DJ Shadow

Monsieur Decuts

10-17-2005, 11:59 AM

shit my momma got cancer in her breast
don't ask me why i'm muther fuckin stressed
things done changed!

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 11:59 AM

Original Pirate Material-The Streets
Method Man-Tical (and I don't think all the Wu solos are classic)
Can we count the Documentary?

mickill

10-17-2005, 12:00 PM

Well, Cuban Linx was/is/always will be.

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 12:02 PM

Well, Cuban Linx was/is/always will be.

Yeah, more so than 'Ironman' for reasons I can't quite explain. Something about a time and a place for a debut.

mickill

10-17-2005, 12:09 PM

Yeah, more so than 'Ironman' for reasons I can't quite explain. Something about a time and a place for a debut.
Until Supreme Clientele came along and just set the bar a bit too high for all of them, further diminishing any and all likelihood of U-God ever eclipsing the entire crew and taking over the whole industry.

Kid Presentable

10-17-2005, 12:13 PM

Until Supreme Clientele came along and just set the bar a bit too high for all of them, further diminishing any and all likelihood of U-God ever eclipsing the entire crew and taking over the whole industry.

Cuban Linx was like a movie in it's conviction, where Ironman was like a pilot in it's desperation to force ideas out. Both dope, but that's how I feel.

Monsieur Decuts

10-17-2005, 12:19 PM

you know i kinda liked McGriffs album when it dropped.

I also liked Becks debut obviously
Big Punisher brought some heat
Craig Mack??? i liked the beats, even though they're just played out breaks..
D-Styles dropped some effin heat too with Phantomogoria or whatever

"Brick are you just looking through your iTunes library saying you love songs"

"I LOVE CHUBB ROCK. I LOVE CHUBB ROCK"

Junker

10-17-2005, 12:40 PM

Damn, dude. You really don't know your NKOTB. Here, let me school you, son. The debut sucked. Nuff said. The follow-up was Hangin Tough. That shit was classic. It featured such bangers as Please Don't Go Girl, I'll Be Lovin You Forever and the aformentioned Hangin Tough, as well as other serious heat. Step By Step was the third joint. It was alright. It showed a bit of progression, both musically and in terms of subject matter. Songs like Games showed that they hadn't lost their rawness, as well. Their final opus, Face The Music was perhaps their best work to date, but was seriously slept on. Guests and producers included Nice N Smooth, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. The album was fire. But Hangin Tough was and probably will always be known as the pinnacle of their many achievments in the biz.

I thought there debut album was a self-titled album :confused:

mickill

10-17-2005, 12:48 PM

I thought there debut album was a self-titled album :confused:
Pay attention, guy. I said it sucked. I didn't say it was called "it sucked".

And I said that Hangin Tough was the follow-up. Did that unconfuse you?

Junker

10-17-2005, 01:05 PM

Pay attention, guy. I said it sucked. I didn't say it was called "it sucked".

Everyone decided to be sarcastic today??

mickill

10-17-2005, 01:32 PM

Everyone decided to be sarcastic today??
No! Did they? Why, I didn't even think I was being sarcastic. Hmmm.

bigblu89

10-17-2005, 01:39 PM

Junker

10-17-2005, 01:41 PM

No! Did they? Why, I didn't even think I was being sarcastic. Hmmm.

OK THEN.... :)

PS: are you sure you werent being sarcastic? :D

Junker

10-17-2005, 01:45 PM

I know you just wanted solos, and not bands, and I'm gonna probably get a TON of shit from a bunch of you, but I honestly think, track for track, Guns N Roses' Appetite for Destruction is the greatest Album ever.

If you like the genre, you can't deny that every song on that CD kicks ass.

(y)

But I think Ratm debut album is even better.
How can an album be better than an album containing Killing In The Name, Bombtrack, Freedom, Wake Up, Know Your Enemy, Bullet In The Head, etc etc?

bigblu89

10-17-2005, 01:55 PM

(y)

But I think Ratm debut album is even better.
How can an album be better than an album containing Killing In The Name, Bombtrack, Freedom, Wake Up, Know Your Enemy, Bullet In The Head, etc etc?

I would agree with you there, except I just really can't stand the song Freedom. If it wasn't for that song, That would be my pick.

abcdefz

10-17-2005, 02:06 PM

Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul - Men Without Women

Amazing rekkid. (y)

You folks can keep your fucking New Kids albums. :rolleyes:

Micodin

10-17-2005, 02:18 PM

I know you just wanted solos, and not bands, and I'm gonna probably get a TON of shit from a bunch of you, but I honestly think, track for track, Guns N Roses' Appetite for Destruction is the greatest Album ever.

If you like the genre, you can't deny that every song on that CD kicks ass.

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this...

But, I hate G'NR as much as I hate limp bizbit. The sound of Axl's voice and his apperance makes me want to puke.

abcdefz

10-17-2005, 02:24 PM

They had some good stuff, but, no; they're not the second coming. Or fourth.

--- I forgot about Bob Mould's first solo: Workbook. That was really good.

Grant Hart's 1234 was good, too, actually.

cj hood

10-17-2005, 02:34 PM

Damn, dude. You really don't know your NKOTB. Here, let me school you, son. The debut sucked. Nuff said. The follow-up was Hangin Tough. That shit was classic. It featured such bangers as Please Don't Go Girl, I'll Be Lovin You Forever and the aformentioned Hangin Tough, as well as other serious heat. Step By Step was the third joint. It was alright. It showed a bit of progression, both musically and in terms of subject matter. Songs like Games showed that they hadn't lost their rawness, as well. Their final opus, Face The Music was perhaps their best work to date, but was seriously slept on. Guests and producers included Nice N Smooth, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. The album was fire. But Hangin Tough was and probably will always be known as the pinnacle of their many achievments in the biz.

thats when nice & smooth fell off for sure.....f' dirty dawg!!

Micodin

10-17-2005, 02:36 PM

Yo, CJ. For the record... PB is a much better album that LTI.

abcdefz

10-17-2005, 03:10 PM

Yo, CJ. For the record... PB is a much better album that LTI.

...PB, CyH, IC, HN, Tt5B...

bigblu89

10-17-2005, 03:30 PM

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this...

But, I hate G'NR as much as I hate limp bizbit. The sound of Axl's voice and his apperance makes me want to puke.

If you think late 80's Axl makes you puke, you should see him nowadays.

Micodin

10-17-2005, 07:56 PM

If you think late 80's Axl makes you puke, you should see him nowadays.

Zing!

mickill

10-17-2005, 08:10 PM

...PB, CyH, IC, HN, Tt5B...
WTF? You forgot LTI. Otherwise, we sort of have the same order. Just squeeze LTI inbetween CYH and IC and keep PB where it is and we're A-OK, LOL.

Micodin

10-17-2005, 08:36 PM

i think he was saying that all those records are better than LTI...

Kid Presentable

10-18-2005, 06:44 AM

Man, I've never seen Mickill talk Beatsies. (y)

BangkokB

10-18-2005, 09:59 AM

Yo

I just wanted to say "Yo"! because I did that at the quarterly review meeting earlier this month and it didn't do down nearly as well as planned
So I'd like to say "Yo! and Ladies lets hike those skirts up a tad~And then we;ll talk about economic quotitiants. Word'em up"

Junker

10-18-2005, 10:59 AM

I would agree with you there, except I just really can't stand the song Freedom. If it wasn't for that song, That would be my pick.
oh...why? its a great song :confused:

Junker

10-18-2005, 11:03 AM

The sound of Axl's voice and his apperance makes me want to puke.

WORD!!!!!

Junker

10-18-2005, 11:07 AM

i think he was saying that all those records are better than LTI...

Yeah.........thats what he was saying. I think someone didnt read the whole thread :rolleyes:

icy manipulator

10-18-2005, 11:26 AM

(y)

But I think Ratm debut album is even better.
How can an album be better than an album containing Killing In The Name, Bombtrack, Freedom, Wake Up, Know Your Enemy, Bullet In The Head, etc etc?
yeah this is the most obvious one in my opinion. i dont need to say how great RATM is :D

Junker

10-18-2005, 11:28 AM

yeah this is the most obvious one in my opinion. i dont need to say how great RATM is :D

hehehehe..........nope

I know your opinion about Rage Against.

icy, as a big fan of them, do you have any news about Zac? I didnt read, listen to anything related to him besides that anti-war song feat Dj Shadow.

icy manipulator

10-18-2005, 11:33 AM

hehehehe..........nope

I know your opinion about Rage Against.

icy, as a big fan of them, do you have any news about Zac? I didnt read, listen to anything related to him besides that anti-war song feat Dj Shadow.
well i know he's made a song with KRS ONE but i'm not sure if that was after RATM. i do know there was a rumour circulating around that he was dead or captured by cuban rebels or some shit because he hadn't made a public appearance in like 2 years but yeah, i know that one's not true