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Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 09:23 AM
...ever. I like children, most of them. I just don't want to give birth to them and take care of a newborn. I think I would go crazy, and I also have no desire for that. I never have, and it doesn't seem like something I would ever want. I wouldn't mind adopting a child and taking care of one, I just don't have a desire to have my own.
And I feel embarrassed by this. Ashamed, even. When I tell people this, often they say "you will" or they're supportive in a pitying way, as if they're already sorry for me, as if I'm already too old to change things and they can already see what they think is my inevitable regret down the road.
I sort of feel like I'm betraying my biology as a woman to deny its most basic function, to perpetuate the species. But then again, isn't simple nurturing the most important aspect of perpetuating/improving the species? It's not something I can argue over becuase it's a personal choice.
mp-seventythree
10-19-2005, 09:24 AM
My girlfriend feels exactly the same way
ToucanSpam
10-19-2005, 09:27 AM
Loads of women don't want to birth kids and nurture them while they are young, but want them around when they are young kids.
Solution: adopt.
mp-seventythree
10-19-2005, 09:28 AM
Jenn just doesn't like kids
TonsOfFun
10-19-2005, 09:29 AM
you will :p
mickill
10-19-2005, 09:29 AM
You could still end up changing your mind, though. It really is true. A lot of people don't start thinking about kids until they're with someone they can see themselves having kids with.
TonsOfFun
10-19-2005, 09:30 AM
You could still end up changing your mind, though. It really is true. A lot of people don't start thinking about kids until they're with someone they can see themselves having kids with.
Or they get caught and decide they would be a bad person if they didn't want kids.
"Son, we love you but you was a mistake. Now live with it"
ms.peachy
10-19-2005, 09:30 AM
Two of my closest girlfriends have no desire to have kids. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm quite looking forward to having mine now that it's on the way (well, maybe not so much the actual having it bit, that birth stuff is a little scary looking let me tell you), but that's my choice and I don't neccessarily think that all women are in fact cut out to be moms.
Is it true that Scientologists can't make a sound when giving birth or can't talk to their babies for the first 7 days of its life to avoid stressing it out?
I didn't want kids for most of my life. Then I started dating the broad im with now....and wouldn't mind a couple kids with her, if it wasn't for the fear I have that I will have mentally challenged children or daughters.
mickill
10-19-2005, 09:36 AM
I heard Tom Cruise talking about that once. I guess it's true.
I often hope and pray that my 24 year old sister-in-law never actually brings a child into this world. I know and know of quite a few people that really seem like unfit parents. So yeah, I guess I don't think all women are cut out for motherhood. And some dads aren't so great either.
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 09:40 AM
Hey hey I'm not saying I'm not cut out to be a mom. I could mom with the best of them. If I wanted to I could mom better than YOUR MOM. I just don't feel like it.
mickill
10-19-2005, 09:41 AM
Prove it.
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 09:44 AM
Someone hand me a kid and I'll show you what I've got. Then I'll touchdown slam him into the ground and shout BOOYAH. I'm kidding, I would never physically abuse a child. I would just palm his little head and hold him out to you and say FACED.
mickill
10-19-2005, 09:56 AM
So if I send you a kid--not one of my own, but a kid--you think you could hack it? I think you talk a good game, but can you back it up?
TonsOfFun
10-19-2005, 09:57 AM
Fox already have the rights to the above show
ms.peachy
10-19-2005, 09:59 AM
Hey hey I'm not saying I'm not cut out to be a mom. I could mom with the best of them. If I wanted to I could mom better than YOUR MOM. I just don't feel like it.
I may be wrong, but I'm kinda thinking 'wanting to' and 'feeling like it' are fairly essential elements of being 'cut out for it', no?
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:06 AM
I may be wrong, but I'm kinda thinking 'wanting to' and 'feeling like it' are fairly essential elements of being 'cut out for it', no?
I could take care of a child, I just don't want to give birth to my own. When you say not cut out to be a mom that encompasses all the things being a mom is, besides giving birth. And if I got pregnant by accident I'm sure I could hack it.
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:08 AM
So if I send you a kid--not one of my own, but a kid--you think you could hack it? I think you talk a good game, but can you back it up?
Send him over! I'll get some toys and some peanut butter, a sleeping bag...
And if I got pregnant by accident I'm sure I could hack it.
hack it while its still inside you? (yeah i know it was a hand out)
Monsieur Decuts
10-19-2005, 10:10 AM
I want a kid. I wonder if many single men adopt.
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:11 AM
Add that to a list of responses, I say I don't want a kid and people say "well, you couldn't take care of one anyway with that attitude" - or something similar.
mickill
10-19-2005, 10:11 AM
You could always be a wuss and have it by scheduled c-section. Is that what you wanna do? Huh wuss?
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:13 AM
You could always be a wuss and have it by scheduled c-section. Is that what you wanna do? Huh wuss?
No, I'd pull it out myself on the way to work then tuck it into an apron pocket and continue about my daily business.
mickill
10-19-2005, 10:15 AM
It's like that? I'll bet you'd be all scared. You'd probably even cry.
ms.peachy
10-19-2005, 10:16 AM
Just for shits and giggles, I told mr.peachy I wanted to have a homebirth. He said "No fucking way am I cleaning up after that."
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:16 AM
I'd cry because I was so sorry for you not being able to be there to see it.
Echewta
10-19-2005, 10:17 AM
I have a few friends that are like that. I believe its chaos and part of natures plan. Chaos because perhaps that one little part of your brain that wants you to have kids didn't happen. Perhaps your body knows something about it that you dont and having a kid could be harmful to you or the baby. Perhaps you are just one of the women that is part of natures population control.
Maybe you will find that perfect person that will suddenly cause that feeling to go away.
mickill
10-19-2005, 10:19 AM
I'd cry because I was so sorry for you not being able to be there to see it.
Your game is soft, duke.
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:20 AM
Your game is soft, duke.
Game? Parenting is no game. I don't partake in your retarded macho internet game of ruling and counter ruling.
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:23 AM
I have a few friends that are like that. I believe its chaos and part of natures plan. Chaos because perhaps that one little part of your brain that wants you to have kids didn't happen. Perhaps your body knows something about it that you dont and having a kid could be harmful to you or the baby. Perhaps you are just one of the women that is part of natures population control.
Maybe you will find that perfect person that will suddenly cause that feeling to go away.
Indeed. Maybe I am supposed to be here to help take care of the children no one wanted, because my body can't bring a fetus to full term. Who knows? Maybe that perfect person will want his own child so badly with me that I will do it for him, and during my first pregnancy I will suddenly be happy to be a mother of my own progeny and will suffer gladly through the birth and infancy because I'll love my family so much.
mickill
10-19-2005, 10:27 AM
Just for shits and giggles, I told mr.peachy I wanted to have a homebirth. He said "No fucking way am I cleaning up after that."
I was innocently flicking through the channels once when I came across this show with some really chubby woman giving birth on her sofa with her legs spread over an inflatable pool as her friends and family members and their kids looked on. It was kinda weird, I think. When the baby popped out it sort of splashed into the pool below it. It wasn't blurred out or anything either. It's like my hand just froze and I couldn't change the channel no matter how grossed out I was.
Documad
10-19-2005, 10:33 AM
My thing is different. It's not about the pregnancy and childbirth. I've just never wanted kids. I didn't play house with the other girls, didn't want a baby doll, etc. My Barbies and paper dolls were either career girls or they played in bands.
I got sick of people telling me that I would feel differently about my own kid, so I started telling everyone that I hate kids. I've become known for my hatred of kids. But I don't hate kids -- in fact I really love some of my friends' kids and I love hearing their stories about parenthood -- I just don't want any kids of my own.
I also love dogs, but I don't want to take care of one.
ms.peachy
10-19-2005, 10:33 AM
They're quite big on home births here, at least in my council. I met with my midwife the other day (she comes to my house, how great is that?) and she was telling me that as long as my pregnancy is routine, there's no reason I couldn't have a home birth if I wanted one. I was all like, 'but this is a new rug!'
You know what else I learned, she said that when I go into labour, she comes round to my place to make sure I really am first of all, and then stays with me there through the first stages and then we all go to the hospital together once I'm nearly 'ready'. Apparently the idea is that that's less stressful than being in a hospital ward, or something.
mickill
10-19-2005, 10:44 AM
I begged for us to have a midwife, but my better half was all like, "it's not what you think it is, you know". Still, woulda been nice. It alleviates a lot of the pressure. So what if she doesn't make me sandwiches and rub my back.
Documad
10-19-2005, 10:48 AM
Ms. Peachy: did you get the midwife because you wanted one, or are they standard? I have some friends who got a similar woman (a doo-ah?) on their own, but most went with the standard hospital/doctor/nurse set up. Unless you have a difficult birth, I hear that the quality of the supporting personnel (nurses or whatever) is the most important thing.
mickill
10-19-2005, 10:49 AM
It's doula, Doc.
Documad
10-19-2005, 10:57 AM
It's doula, Doc.
Thanks. I have no idea what she is, but I have a co-worker who's very fussy and had two kids and swears by hers.
cookiepuss
10-19-2005, 11:08 AM
I don't want to have them either. My boyfriend and I agree on this so that is a good thing. I supose we could change our minds, but honestly I don't think we will.
I would so much rather raise dogs than children. I don't excited when someone brings a baby in the room, the feeling is like..meehhhh..baby. But I flip out and jump up and down in the presence of a puppy. So I might have been born the wrong species.
But i too sometimes feel guilty for not wanting kids. everyone does say that I'll change my mind and how I should have children cause I'd be good at it. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be good at it cause I'm not patient enough. Parenting is something that doesn't end when the kid turns 18. I'm not sure I want a life long resposibility to make sure this human being is raised properly and doesn't kill people. And somehow everyone keeps ignoring the fact that we are populating the earth much faster than we should and that we will eventually run out of resources for all these fucking people. We don't all need to have kids.
Documad
10-19-2005, 11:45 AM
I think it's wonderful that women have a choice. There were a lot of women of my mom's generation, living in my neighborhood when I was a kid, who clearly wouldn't have had children if they had a choice, and who shouldn't have had children. Some of them were crazy.
On the other hand, I wonder where the world is headed if so many smart and creative people are not going to have kids.
cosmo105
10-19-2005, 12:11 PM
childbirth scares the crap out of me.
so does the thought of being a mom. what if they hate me? what if something happens to them or is wrong with them?
but i still want to have kids...just not for a looong time.
ms.peachy
10-19-2005, 12:34 PM
Ms. Peachy: did you get the midwife because you wanted one, or are they standard? I have some friends who got a similar woman (a doo-ah?) on their own, but most went with the standard hospital/doctor/nurse set up. Unless you have a difficult birth, I hear that the quality of the supporting personnel (nurses or whatever) is the most important thing.
Generally, if you are having a routine pregnancy, midwife care is more or less the standard here. Obviously if you are having multiples, concieved via IVF, are pre-eclamptic etc where there is a reason why you should be seeing an obstetrician regularly, then your pregnancy is handled by a doctor, and you can opt for a doctor instead of a midwife if you prefer even if your pregnancy is routine.
What I'm gathering is that the whole pregnancy and childbirth thing is much less 'medicalized' here than in the US. After all, I don't have a disease, and I'm not ill, I'm just pregnant. Of course there can be problems, but by and large, in a normal pregnancy, it's pretty well-known how this works and how it all turns out, you know?
In my area they have a 'community midwifery' program, which means that unless I need a special test (like amniocentesis) or to have a scan, I never have to go to the clinic really; the midwife comes to me. For me, not such a big deal in that I don't have any other kids and my schedule is pretty flexible, but I imagine for women who already have a kid or two it's a godsend to not have to find childcare, or drag the kids with youto the clinic and keep them entertained for every appointment. Plus also this way the midwife sees the home environment and can help the women/families get any social services-type assistance if they need it, and such.
Echewta
10-19-2005, 01:01 PM
Dont have sex so you dont have to worry.
monkey
10-19-2005, 02:11 PM
oh, echewta is having ma babyesss. it's name is gonna be i-babyLOL
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on a side note:
ok, this is scary...
ive only met very very few men that ever made me think of children in any way. mostly not consciously, even. ((as in dreams. or joke kids).
but i just feel completely different now. and that's a scary thought. since ive been with my bf, i've been actually considering a child as something that i would want in my future, especially with him. even more scary, he's told me he feels that way too. i make him want to be a father to some little smart ass kid (which he thinks we would inevitably have). it's so very.. different. scary different. thought provoking different.
Echewta
10-19-2005, 02:17 PM
I'm only having babies with you because I have Norton Antivirus. I've heard about you...
monkey
10-19-2005, 02:39 PM
i dont partake in any sort of intercourse without my firewall. so there! (im clean. i just downloaded new virus definitions and scanned my hd. when was the last time YOU were tested?)
Echewta
10-19-2005, 03:38 PM
I don't know but can i scan your hd?
DapperDiverge
10-19-2005, 03:59 PM
ever since I was taught sex ed. I thought getting impregnated was like having a parasite living in your uterus :eek: ... low and behold the parasite is 35yrs old and still leeching off you...
I definitely don't want to be sentenced for life!!
miss soul fire
10-19-2005, 04:50 PM
I know what you mean and I'm still not sure whether I wanna have kids or not. I've never felt the desire to give birth either, mostly due to the fact that from the moment I have a kid I know my life will be entirely dedicated to them and that will make me so sad. In MY CASE is because I'm selfish I believe. I wish I wasn't, but apparently I am.:D
Anyway, I think that if I ever get married (which I'm not considering at the moment, but if the PERFECT, at least for me, person comes up I'll marry him...or not?? Hihihi)I will have kids, because I'll think "oh, since I've screwed once by getting married I'm gonna finish the job and screw the rest":D Since I would have a husband I would feel the need to complete the package, you know?! Maybe I would like it one day after my kids got married too. Hihihoho.:p
But I'd rather dogs!!
zippo
10-19-2005, 05:09 PM
i feel so sure about how to raise a kid it almost seems a bit premature, seeing as to how theres no way i would have one right now, being too preoccupied with my own life.
The Notorious LOL
10-19-2005, 06:36 PM
the whole 'well if you meet someone who you want to make a kid with it'll change things" argument is kind of invalid and stupid. Its like saying "well if you meet someone who you want to smash your dick in a waffle iron with it'll change how you feel about smashing your dick in a waffle iron"....well, yeah.
I think a child in almost any context strongly compromises the standing of an otherwise previously stable relationship. Theres now a third party involved which changes the dynamic of the relationship altogether.
My genetics passed to anyone would make at least a 50% awesome kid (assuming the mother was 0% awesome) so having some flipper isnt an issue either. However, some of the things that play into whether or not your kid is a little rotten son of a bitch you want to smack the shit out of but dont because hes your kid remains to be seen. Its like a personality crap shoot. You have all these ideas of how your kids gonna be and probably 80% of them are fantasized scenarios that'll never happen.
Plus, christ...has anyone stopped and looked at how FUCKED UP the world is? Who the shit wants to introduce a human into such filth? Theres gotta be some major cleanup before Id ever consider intentionally shooting my semen into someone for the purpose of creating a snot shooting shit factory that shares a portion of my DNA.
zippo
10-19-2005, 06:49 PM
has anyone stopped and looked at how FUCKED UP the world is? Who the shit wants to introduce a human into such filth?
:rolleyes:
ok, enough cliches for the nite i think
Sarky Devotchka
10-19-2005, 06:59 PM
I want to have a baby so someone will love me.
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:00 PM
I wouldn't mind being a dad.
Shit, that's fucking scary.
armyofme
10-19-2005, 07:04 PM
the whole 'well if you meet someone who you want to make a kid with it'll change things" argument is kind of invalid and stupid. Its like saying "well if you meet someone who you want to smash your dick in a waffle iron with it'll change how you feel about smashing your dick in a waffle iron"....well, yeah.
I think a child in almost any context strongly compromises the standing of an otherwise previously stable relationship. Theres now a third party involved which changes the dynamic of the relationship altogether.
My genetics passed to anyone would make at least a 50% awesome kid (assuming the mother was 0% awesome) so having some flipper isnt an issue either. However, some of the things that play into whether or not your kid is a little rotten son of a bitch you want to smack the shit out of but dont because hes your kid remains to be seen. Its like a personality crap shoot. You have all these ideas of how your kids gonna be and probably 80% of them are fantasized scenarios that'll never happen.
Plus, christ...has anyone stopped and looked at how FUCKED UP the world is? Who the shit wants to introduce a human into such filth? Theres gotta be some major cleanup before Id ever consider intentionally shooting my semen into someone for the purpose of creating a snot shooting shit factory that shares a portion of my DNA.
I, for one, am relieved by this post.
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:05 PM
I wouldn't mind being a dad.
Shit, that's fucking scary.
see, this doesnt scare me at all
(refrain from the obvious joke if possible....IF possible)
The Notorious LOL
10-19-2005, 07:05 PM
:rolleyes:
ok, enough cliches for the nite i think
oh shit zippo Im terribly sorry if the "cliche" quota for the night was already reached. I'll make sure to note all other posts from here on out.
ToucanSpam
10-19-2005, 07:07 PM
I wouldn't mind being a dad.
Shit, that's fucking scary.
Will you be my daddy? :(
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:08 PM
see, this doesnt scare me at all
(refrain from the obvious joke if possible....IF possible)
Being a parent doesn't scare you, or ME being a parent doesn't scare you? :D
TS - Shut up and go and wash the car.
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:12 PM
oh shit zippo Im terribly sorry if the "cliche" quota for the night was already reached. I'll make sure to note all other posts from here on out.
yea, im all witty and shit
Documad
10-19-2005, 07:12 PM
I want to have a baby so someone will love me.
:p
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:14 PM
Being a parent doesn't scare you, or ME being a parent doesn't scare you? :D
forget it, i just want you
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:16 PM
...to go to the shops?
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:27 PM
we can be all british and stuff
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:29 PM
Sure.
Let me smash your teeth in and remove your taste buds and you'll be all set.
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:34 PM
oh
for a minute there i thought you were talking about how you would violently proceed to kiss me
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:35 PM
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to participate in threesomes.
You'll have to ask Becky about that...
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:37 PM
me, you, Beckham, if its british its good
alright ill stop with the bad jokes now
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:39 PM
Those were jokes? :confused:
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:44 PM
oooo ofcourse not
Those were jokes? :confused:
she's half way to being british already!
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:49 PM
^ Haha :D
Zippo - sorry love, it just wasn't meant to be. I'll send you a signed photo (y)
I don't want to get pregnant either.
zippo
10-19-2005, 07:56 PM
Zippo - sorry love, it just wasn't meant to be. I'll send you a signed photo (y)
i want you
Jasonik
10-19-2005, 07:58 PM
Do it for the welfare check!
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 07:59 PM
i want you
haha... :rolleyes:
zippo
10-19-2005, 08:03 PM
dude, say something funny bob
in 3...2...1....
PREPARE TO LAUGH LIKE YOUVE NEVER LAUGHED BEFORE
DONT LET US DOWN BOB
Freebasser
10-19-2005, 08:03 PM
I want Bob
zorra_chiflada
10-19-2005, 08:07 PM
in australia, if you push out a kid, the government gives you $3000 up front. they're trying to increase the population. what a great way of doing so.
dude, say something funny bob
in 3...2...1....
PREPARE TO LAUGH LIKE YOUVE NEVER LAUGHED BEFORE
DONT LET US DOWN BOB
oh sorry, i missed that
um...woozle wazzle?
zippo
10-19-2005, 08:21 PM
oh sorry, i missed that
um...woozle wazzle?
ha! ding ding ding ding ding!!
aww come ere you bigshot
Rich Cheney
10-19-2005, 08:28 PM
...ever. I like children, most of them. I just don't want to give birth to them and take care of a newborn. I think I would go crazy, and I also have no desire for that. I never have, and it doesn't seem like something I would ever want. I wouldn't mind adopting a child and taking care of one, I just don't have a desire to have my own.
And I feel embarrassed by this. Ashamed, even. When I tell people this, often they say "you will" or they're supportive in a pitying way, as if they're already sorry for me, as if I'm already too old to change things and they can already see what they think is my inevitable regret down the road.
I sort of feel like I'm betraying my biology as a woman to deny its most basic function, to perpetuate the species. But then again, isn't simple nurturing the most important aspect of perpetuating/improving the species? It's not something I can argue over becuase it's a personal choice.
So selfish it's sickening.
zorra_chiflada
10-19-2005, 08:36 PM
you're joking
Nuzzolese
10-19-2005, 10:50 PM
So selfish it's sickening.
I figure it's no worse than morning sickness, which I won't be getting, so it evens out in the end.
The Notorious LOL
10-19-2005, 10:52 PM
theres too many damn people anyway.
ms.peachy
10-20-2005, 01:09 AM
Plus, christ...has anyone stopped and looked at how FUCKED UP the world is? Who the shit wants to introduce a human into such filth? Theres gotta be some major cleanup before Id ever consider intentionally shooting my semen into someone for the purpose of creating a snot shooting shit factory that shares a portion of my DNA.
Oh please :rolleyes: what a stupid cop-out.
The world is no more or less fucked up now than it ever has been since the dawn of human civilisation. You can pick any 'golden age' in history you like, and I guarantee you that in reality, everyday life was pretty fucking brutal.
Nuzzolese
10-20-2005, 09:39 AM
Oh please :rolleyes: what a stupid cop-out.
The world is no more or less fucked up now than it ever has been since the dawn of human civilisation. You can pick any 'golden age' in history you like, and I guarantee you that in reality, everyday life was pretty fucking brutal.
Can you really guarantee that?
beastieangel01
10-20-2005, 09:55 AM
not every woman wants to have kids, plain and simple. The women who give you crap about it or feel sorry for you... are pretty lame. Also, it's every womans choice. They should bite their tongues, or at least be less judgemental about it. Sheesh.
TonsOfFun
10-20-2005, 10:41 AM
in australia, if you push out a kid, the government gives you $3000 up front. they're trying to increase the population. what a great way of doing so.
yeah, they advertise in the UK all the time to go over to meet our convict ancestors cus they ain't enough people to do stuff. Like play cricket or rugby...
Nuzzolese
10-20-2005, 12:24 PM
not every woman wants to have kids, plain and simple. The women who give you crap about it or feel sorry for you... are pretty lame. Also, it's every womans choice. They should bite their tongues, or at least be less judgemental about it. Sheesh.
They speak with authority, "you'll change your mind" speak matter-of-factly "your biological clock will kick in" and wince at my age of 25 years "yeah you're getting close to the age hump" meaning 30, over which pregnancies begin to become more difficult. These are usually peope who have children or enthusiastically want them someday. I agree it's rude.
I know several women in their late 40s who were never married and/or never had their own kids and they are fine with it, or they seem to have come to terms with it and convince themselves and the world that they are, so it's not unheard of to avoid children AND craggy spinsterhood. They have serious relationships, they have helped raise other people's children, they have pursued their own interests in life and they look fantastic.
ms.peachy
10-20-2005, 01:31 PM
Can you really guarantee that?
Can you think of any time in history when everyday life would have been any better, really?
You can point to, say, the Renaissance and say 'oh that was an amazing time, and the air was cleaner'. Well, sure. But there was also intolerable cruelty and slavery, child labour, high rates of infant mortality/death in childbirth, and if you were to cut your leg open and it got infected, the best you could hope for would be amputation (without anaesthetic).
The world is no more fucked up a place now than it ever was. We just know more about it now.
paul jones
10-20-2005, 01:33 PM
let's all get up the duff and have buns in the oven (y)
cookiepuss
10-20-2005, 01:34 PM
ok paul. will you carry my baby for me for nine months in yo belly? ;)
cookiepuss
10-20-2005, 01:44 PM
ok, I'll probably get shot for this and I really don't want to offend anyone who has kids or is pregant....However....
sometimes I feel that having children is rather egotistical. What makes me think that my genes are so damn worthy of procreation? Is part of the desire to have children just a way for us to feel better about the fact that we will one day die? OUr children carry half our genes and that's a form of immortality really. Plus if you're not famous, and you don't have kids, who from the future generations will remember you? And if no one remembers you then you really are dead aren't you?
Nuzzolese
10-20-2005, 01:50 PM
Can you think of any time in history when everyday life would have been any better, really?
You can point to, say, the Renaissance and say 'oh that was an amazing time, and the air was cleaner'. Well, sure. But there was also intolerable cruelty and slavery, child labour, high rates of infant mortality/death in childbirth, and if you were to cut your leg open and it got infected, the best you could hope for would be amputation (without anaesthetic).
The world is no more fucked up a place now than it ever was. We just know more about it now.
Nevermind, I was only kidding, saying you couldn't possibly prove or disprove the hypothetical daily joys and miseries of people in the past.
Nuzzolese
10-20-2005, 01:52 PM
Can you think of any time in history when everyday life would have been any better, really?
How would I or you know if it was any better or worse. You saying what you're saying is just as ludicrous as Not. LOL's comment.
ms.peachy
10-20-2005, 02:00 PM
How would I or you know if it was any better or worse. You saying what you're saying is just as ludicrous as Not. LOL's comment.
So your answer is, no you can't think of a time, then?
OK, maybe the use of the better/worse dichotomy is a bit ambiguous and subjective. But I still maintain my core point, which is that the world is no more 'fucked up' now than it ever was, and no more or less a place to bring a child into than it ever was. Is that 'better' for you?
Nuzzolese
10-20-2005, 02:42 PM
So your answer is, no you can't think of a time, then?
OK, maybe the use of the better/worse dichotomy is a bit ambiguous and subjective. But I still maintain my core point, which is that the world is no more 'fucked up' now than it ever was, and no more or less a place to bring a child into than it ever was. Is that 'better' for you?
(n)
You're exhausting. Why is this important? I'm saying no time is fucked up, all times are fucked up, you are right and I agree with you but I was making fun of you before because you can't guarantee anything about the past. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I'm glad you maintain your core point because I am certainly now sorry that I ever said anything, ever attempted to poke fun at your mind blowing conclusions about society.
ms.peachy
10-20-2005, 02:50 PM
(n)
You're exhausting. Why is this important? I'm saying no time is fucked up, all times are fucked up, you are right and I agree with you but I was making fun of you before because you can't guarantee anything about the past. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I'm glad you maintain your core point because I am certainly now sorry that I ever said anything, ever attempted to poke fun at your mind blowing conclusions about society.
I really like how we're both sitting at our computer screens shouting "lighten up" at eachother.
I know you were just rattling my cage, I was just swiping at you through the bars is all.
Enough. Let's be friends. Wanna come over and have some hot chocolate?
Nuzzolese
10-20-2005, 03:21 PM
I really like how we're both sitting at our computer screens shouting "lighten up" at eachother.
I know you were just rattling my cage, I was just swiping at you through the bars is all.
Enough. Let's be friends. Wanna come over and have some hot chocolate?
Yes! :D
thank god you both got your periods
DandyFop
10-20-2005, 03:29 PM
I don't think ms. peachy did...
TonsOfFun
10-20-2005, 03:30 PM
This thread sucks now.
Lighten up some of you!
This thread sucks now.
Lighten up some of you!
I don't want to get pregnant because I don't want to stretch out my cootch. Better?
Echewta
10-20-2005, 03:49 PM
I'd rather go golfing.
cookiepuss
10-20-2005, 04:08 PM
So having kids is egotistical right? Nobody desputed my post so, I'm right, right?
Sarky Devotchka
10-20-2005, 05:20 PM
So having kids is egotistical right? Nobody desputed my post so, I'm right, right?
I don't think it's egotistical really, I mean, maybe for some people. I know if I had a kid, I'd want it to be awesome and think that I'm awesome too...but I wouldn't necessarily want the kid just for the purpose of me somehow living on forever. I just like the idea of raising a child or two in a nice happy family. My aunt and uncle have 3 boys and they have their problems and all, but they also have a great time together. I think it's more about love, and caring about someone more than you care about yourself.
mickill
10-20-2005, 05:34 PM
My kid's pretty awesome in my opinion.
I can't believe that nuzzer and peachy both threw in the towel like that, because I was really beginning to agree with one of them.
cookiepuss
10-20-2005, 07:02 PM
I don't think it's egotistical really, I mean, maybe for some people. I know if I had a kid, I'd want it to be awesome and think that I'm awesome too...but I wouldn't necessarily want the kid just for the purpose of me somehow living on forever. I just like the idea of raising a child or two in a nice happy family. My aunt and uncle have 3 boys and they have their problems and all, but they also have a great time together. I think it's more about love, and caring about someone more than you care about yourself.
ok good.
I think maybe I overthink the parenthood thing just a little bit.
fucktopgirl
10-20-2005, 07:15 PM
So having kids is egotistical right? Nobody desputed my post so, I'm right, right?
well i think it the contrary,when i was pregnate,i have to forget myself and think about that little human that was growing inside,so everything i did was in consequence of the baby.Thinking about what you eat,drink(no alcool,no coffee,no pot,,but a lot of cheese :D )
When the baby is out,its more intense you give him(her)your all
i had no intention to get pregnate but when it happen i accept it(right guy help)
anyhow i think having a child is letting go of our own little person and give place to that new persone coming to our life!
you dont want to get pregnate take precaution if not well handle the situation like a women!
hardnox71
10-20-2005, 11:55 PM
Funny you should say that, Nuzz. I was just thinking the exact same thing to myself earlier today.
DroppinScience
10-21-2005, 12:03 AM
On the other hand, I wonder where the world is headed if so many smart and creative people are not going to have kids.
Medellia
10-21-2005, 12:07 AM
pregnate
SISKO?! :eek:
I'm kidding, I don't really think you're an alias.
ms.peachy
10-21-2005, 01:55 AM
I can't believe that nuzzer and peachy both threw in the towel like that, because I was really beginning to agree with one of them.
Hush up, troublemaker. My excuse is, I'm pregnant, so I get tired easily. Plus it's really hard to be annoyed when you're drinking a nice big yummy mug of hot chocolate.
iceygirl
10-21-2005, 04:14 AM
i dont want kids either. neither does my husband. :)
it shocks me how rude people can be to couples (especially women) on issues like this. like first when you become a couple, you are constantly asked about your pending engagement....then after you are engaged, pressure about a date for a wedding...then after you get hitched, constant questions about starting a family. now i am 28 years old, an age where other women (mostly older) start to think you are a weirdo if you have chosen not to have kids. it is rather annoying. even more annoying that when told that IF we do change our minds we would adopt (which is none of their damn business anyway) quite a few think even stranger of me.
Someone said something about how parenting can be a selfish thing to do or something. i have thought this before and how it is funny because in reality raising a decent human being into this world should be the most unselfish thing you do. funny how a lot of parents make it all about them.
Lex Diamonds
10-21-2005, 04:43 AM
I can't wait to find a worthy carrier, impregnate it, and watch my genetic offspring grow. :) (y)
Nuzzolese
10-21-2005, 07:40 AM
Hush up, troublemaker. My excuse is, I'm pregnant, so I get tired easily. Plus it's really hard to be annoyed when you're drinking a nice big yummy mug of hot chocolate.
it wasn't even an argument. It was semanticational
Nuzzolese
10-21-2005, 07:42 AM
I would adopt - if I qualified. They won't give babies to just anyone. And I wouldn't have to risk birth. I apologize for this thread and the fact that I just posted again to keep it at the top.
mickill
10-21-2005, 10:04 AM
Did you mean it when you told me you thought ms.peachy was a "weak player" and that you were glad you could "show that preganant twit" who was boss?
bigblu89
10-21-2005, 10:13 AM
I'm having a kid in hopes that It gets famous, and I can mooch off it the rest of my life.
ms.peachy
10-21-2005, 11:59 AM
Did you mean it when you told me you thought ms.peachy was a "weak player" and that you were glad you could "show that preganant twit" who was boss?
On a not really related note, but read into it what you will, I was just watching some lesbian wrestling porn. It was kinda hot, actually. Boy the internet is amazing, isn't it?
Qdrop
10-21-2005, 12:04 PM
I'm having a kid in hopes that It gets famous, and I can mooch off it the rest of my life.
the American dream.
one of my co-workers told me that her boyfriend, who is white, is gonna adopt male black babies and have them start playing tennis as soon as they can walk since there is an untouched market with the full-male-black-tennis players. then he'll retire off their earnings.
Mustangjen808
10-21-2005, 01:56 PM
Im ok with the kids after they are like 4...I cant handle a new born
plus if I get stuck with a girl...what the hell would I do with a girl..im the most non girl in the whole world...I cant teach someone to put on mascara...I dont wear it,how can I teach it??
that's why nannies were created...
either that or lancome or mac girls...
sephora employees at that...
Nuzzolese
10-21-2005, 02:56 PM
Did you mean it when you told me you thought ms.peachy was a "weak player" and that you were glad you could "show that preganant twit" who was boss?
I said twat.
you know, the physical effects of pregnancy and delivery and nursing, which don't always happen to every girl, but do happen is enough to scare me right good...
tearing so bad that you never are the same again and are always prone to infection and /or folds that just don't get "clean"
saggy uneven boobs
big stretched out hoo hoo or one that is sewn up too tight
stretched out poochy tummy that never goes back to normal
peeing, farting and worse if you sneeze or sit too long during and after you have the sucker
i can't think of anymore, just ugh
fucktopgirl
10-21-2005, 04:39 PM
you know, the physical effects of pregnancy and delivery and nursing, which don't always happen to every girl, but do happen is enough to scare me right good...
tearing so bad that you never are the same again and are always prone to infection and /or folds that just don't get "clean"
saggy uneven boobs
big stretched out hoo hoo or one that is sewn up too tight
stretched out poochy tummy that never goes back to normal
peeing, farting and worse if you sneeze or sit too long during and after you have the sucker
i can't think of anymore, just ugh
well i have my girl,let me tell you,i am still a hotty :D ,stretch marks can be deal with almond oil all along the pregnancy,that what i did ,not strech mark.
my tummie is sexy,my boob are sexy.
peeing ,yea that is worst in the last month of the incubation,like it's something but a small price to pay to have that little baby!i tell you :)
so its not bad at all!!
well i have my girl,let me tell you,i am still a hotty :D ,stretch marks can be deal with almond oil all along the pregnancy,that what i did ,not strech mark.
my tummie is sexy,my boob are sexy.
peeing ,yea that is worst in the last month of the incubation,like it's something but a small price to pay to have that little baby!i tell you :)
so its not bad at all!!
:)
you are hilarious. we need you around more
fucktopgirl
10-21-2005, 04:48 PM
well no worrie ,i will :)
Echewta
10-21-2005, 04:51 PM
Not all moms are like that Kll. I'm just saying...
you know, the physical effects of pregnancy and delivery and nursing, which don't always happen to every girl, but do happen is enough to scare me right good...
being friends with girls who tell toooo many details sucks at times...
Echewta
10-21-2005, 05:30 PM
i know how you feel :(
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