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DapperDiverge
10-21-2005, 03:27 PM
I saw on the discovery channel a couple of years ago how the human race, as they spread across the world from Africa, developed diffferent traits due to their environment and diet... and how a black person could become white in 3000 yrs just because of the surrounding (europe= cold, dark most of the time, lacking in red meated animals, etc..). If you've ever seen aquatic animals near the artic you what I mean.

I couldn't help but wonder, since everyone on this planet has been mixed with other races, could the human species evolve into something else 1000 or 2000 years from now? Could our chromosomes mutate to the point where we could develop telekinesis (move objects with our mind)

I mean we've come a long way...

Rawr
10-21-2005, 03:37 PM
if we do devolope tekenikis (sp..) then that would be fucking awesome

King PSYZ
10-21-2005, 03:51 PM
the ability to kill a yak from 200 yards with mind bullets?

Rawr
10-21-2005, 04:02 PM
the ability to kill a yak from 200 yards with mind bullets?

LMAO! sorry sorry i just found that really halirouse

King PSYZ
10-21-2005, 04:08 PM
that's telekenesis Kyle.

Funkaloyd
10-21-2005, 05:51 PM
Think about it: what were we like, genetically, 1 and 2 thousand years ago? The same, for all intents and purposes.

I really doubt you're going to see much evolution in such a short period of time. Certainly not the development of telekinetic powers.

























Though that would be so damn cool (y)

SobaViolence
10-21-2005, 06:13 PM
telekinesis is ok...but pyrokinesis is where it's at.

fucking control fire.




honestly, i think telepathy is the first thing humans will develop.
get outta my mind tho.

DapperDiverge
10-21-2005, 10:27 PM
Think about it: what were we like, genetically, 1 and 2 thousand years ago? The same, for all intents and purposes.

I really doubt you're going to see much evolution in such a short period of time. Certainly not the development of telekinetic powers.


Yeah, I agree... I've been seeing a huge surge of ignoramia lately... sad really :(

Not so much in technology.... but definitely in principles and ethics
I mean where's the common sense nowadays??

Man, I guess we've got a long way to go... on many common sense and tolerable issues

QueenAdrock
10-21-2005, 10:36 PM
Didn't you see that one South Park where everyone was the same orangish-color and spoke a mix of all languages in the future?

Fuckin' goobacks.

yeahwho
10-21-2005, 10:55 PM
telekinesis is ok...but pyrokinesis is where it's at.

fucking control fire.




honestly, i think telepathy is the first thing humans will develop.
get outta my mind tho.

I'm telepathetic on the cell phone.

Medellia
10-21-2005, 11:09 PM
that's telekenesis Kyle.
How about the power........................to move you?

EN[i]GMA
10-22-2005, 07:41 AM
HOW would one go about evolving teleknesis?

It's a physical impossibility; your mind has no appendages, sends out nothing physical, hence, cannot move things.

Ace42X
10-22-2005, 07:43 AM
GMA']
It's a physical impossibility; your mind has no appendages, sends out nothing physical, hence, cannot move things.

Actually, your mind sends out an electro-magnetic field. There is actually a device (a headband) that lets you play pong just by using your mind.

Ali
10-24-2005, 03:41 AM
could the human species evolve into something else 1000 or 2000 years from now? No, we'll be extinct. All it'll take is a few earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes and maybe a meteorite or two and we're gone. Vanished without a trace.

Have a nice day. :)

King PSYZ
10-24-2005, 08:59 AM
How about the power........................to move you?
I was getting worried there for a minute...

Qdrop
10-24-2005, 09:04 AM
that's telekenesis Kyle.


i got the power....to move you.


edit* dammit....didn't read through the thread.

still, best song every written....next to Tribute, of course.

cosmo105
10-24-2005, 12:13 PM
No, we'll be extinct. All it'll take is a few earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes and maybe a meteorite or two and we're gone. Vanished without a trace.

Have a nice day. :)
nah, my vote goes for the viruses.

anyway, i think the power to worship even more celebrities isn't too far off. here's hoping! *crosses fingers*

Funkaloyd
10-24-2005, 02:42 PM
That actually isn't so crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if those who are more inclined to care about Jennifer Anniston's relationships also fare better off sexually, and thus are more likely to pass on their genes.

Oh, and if humanity's dying off any time soon, it'll be due to our own nukes.

*Just finished watching Dr. Strangelove again*

EN[i]GMA
10-24-2005, 03:56 PM
Actually, your mind sends out an electro-magnetic field. There is actually a device (a headband) that lets you play pong just by using your mind.

But how would that help you pick up say, a rock?

ms.peachy
10-24-2005, 04:14 PM
If anything, I would think humans are evolving away from developing an ability such as telekenesis. Ever wondered how a flock of birds or a school of fish are all able to change direction uniformly, virtually simultaneously? I think it has to do with being less intelligent, that higher brain function precludes this sort of 'tapping in'. (Just my theory, entirely unproven and untested.)

I think it's far more likely that humans will develop technology that allows us to use machines that can read thought patterns and do stuff for us - indeed, this is already happening; I seem to recall only recently reading about tests of 'brainwave' interpretive technologies for use by people who are quadriplegics etc.

King PSYZ
10-24-2005, 04:32 PM
GMA']But how would that help you pick up say, a rock?
with the force

Ali
10-25-2005, 01:44 AM
I can open a beer by telekinesis.

I think "beer" and Mrs Ali opens me one.

:p

Have any of you noticed how you can think something and your wife/husband/long term girl/boyfriend either says or does that exact thing? Or you are thinking about someone and the phone rings and it's them?

It happens too often to be just coincidence!

Actual Telekinesis I'm sceptical of, but Telepathy is definitely a reality and I believe that we are subconciously able to communicate with one another, especially those with whom we have close relationships.

We only use 10% of our brains for conscious thought, the rest of it does things that we are completely unaware of, why shouldn't one of those things be Telepathy?

Medellia
10-25-2005, 03:32 AM
I was getting worried there for a minute...
I couldn't resist an oppurtunity to quote the D.

And hahahaha @ QDrop.

Ace42X
10-25-2005, 11:53 AM
GMA']But how would that help you pick up say, a rock?

Well, assuming you could use selective breeding to extend and intensify this ability to generate and control this ability, you could use the magnetic properties of the energy field to lift the ferrous material in said rock.

Magnetism is a much stronger force than gravity (compare the ability of a magnet to lift a pin, despite the whole gravitational force of the planet trying to pull back) - so it is not impossible.

King PSYZ
10-25-2005, 11:59 AM
Well, assuming you could use selective breeding to extend and intensify this ability to generate and control this ability, you could use the magnetic properties of the energy field to lift the ferrous material in said rock.

Magnetism is a much stronger force than gravity (compare the ability of a magnet to lift a pin, despite the whole gravitational force of the planet trying to pull back) - so it is not impossible.
aka the Force

Ace42X
10-25-2005, 12:02 PM
aka the Force

Nah, the Force wasn't psycho-kinesis. The force is an energy field generated by the midichlorians and stuff. Neurological energy fields are different.

ms.peachy
10-25-2005, 12:30 PM
LOL you guys are nerds

King PSYZ
10-25-2005, 12:46 PM
Nah, the Force wasn't psycho-kinesis. The force is an energy field generated by the midichlorians and stuff. Neurological energy fields are different.
what's to say mitochondria, thought to be the basis for the mitochlorian aspect of the force, wouldn't have the same effect if one learned to tap into that portion of the brain that could "command" those forces?

EN[i]GMA
10-25-2005, 01:09 PM
Well, assuming you could use selective breeding to extend and intensify this ability to generate and control this ability, you could use the magnetic properties of the energy field to lift the ferrous material in said rock.

Quite a few ifs.

Wouldn't the magnetism created interfere with the brain's other functions?


Magnetism is a much stronger force than gravity (compare the ability of a magnet to lift a pin, despite the whole gravitational force of the planet trying to pull back) - so it is not impossible.

Read the Fabric of the Cosmos I take it?

Ace42X
10-25-2005, 01:28 PM
GMA']Quite a few ifs.

That's what evolution is. Easy to say those tenous leaps of chance are "destined" after the fact.

Wouldn't the magnetism created interfere with the brain's other functions?

Depends - clearly safeguards would evolve along with those developments. However - worn headphones recently? They use magnets, haven't had anyone spazz out yet. I did read about a guy who had a magnetic "autism" cap that knocked out certain aspects of the brain temporarily, allowing the wearer to experience autism temporarily... But that wasn't the same as just being in a magnetic field.

Read the Fabric of the Cosmos I take it?

No.

EN[i]GMA
10-25-2005, 04:02 PM
That's what evolution is. Easy to say those tenous leaps of chance are "destined" after the fact.

Ah yes, but DIRECTING evolution is entirely different matter, and entirely more complex.


Depends - clearly safeguards would evolve along with those developments.

'Safegaurds' such as?

How much can our brain change and it still be 'our brain'?


However - worn headphones recently? They use magnets, haven't had anyone spazz out yet. I did read about a guy who had a magnetic "autism" cap that knocked out certain aspects of the brain temporarily, allowing the wearer to experience autism temporarily... But that wasn't the same as just being in a magnetic field.

Headphones aren't strong enough to have any real effect.

But a google landed me this rather interesting link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1932709.stm


No.

Ah well, the same example is used in that book.

EN[i]GMA
10-25-2005, 04:03 PM
And this: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/040216/16bipolar.htm

Ace42X
10-25-2005, 04:23 PM
GMA']Ah yes, but DIRECTING evolution is entirely different matter, and entirely more complex.

Not really. Hook the brain-wave device up to a bunch of people - make their ability with the brain-band controller the prime factor in deciding their reproductive sucess and survival rate (IE cull those that perform under a specific bar, prevent them from breeding, deny them food, etc) - those with the strongest control and power of their brain-waves will survive and pass on those genes, and so on.

The same methodology has been used for generations for all sorts of species.

'Safegaurds' such as?

Such as not being of a pattern that is self-harming. If someone spazzed out due to their own brain-magnetics, they'd not be able to breed, and therefore that would die out. Eventually a sucessful and safe form would be left and develop.

How much can our brain change and it still be 'our brain'?

A fair bit I'd wager. Our species comes in a variety of size and shapes, it doesn't make us less human. But really this is a question for Joss Whedon...

zippo
10-25-2005, 08:41 PM
Have any of you noticed how you can think something and your wife/husband/long term girl/boyfriend either says or does that exact thing? Or you are thinking about someone and the phone rings and it's them?

It happens too often to be just coincidence!

Actual Telekinesis I'm sceptical of, but Telepathy is definitely a reality and I believe that we are subconciously able to communicate with one another, especially those with whom we have close relationships.

(about your first example)

oh cmon, i think its simply due to that after years of observing and communicating with another human being, you inevitably memorize or learn their behavior: likes, dislikes, opinions, personal timing, tendencies, etc so you unconsciously take them in and sometimes repeat them yourself.

Ali
10-26-2005, 12:30 AM
(about your first example)

oh cmon, i think its simply due to that after years of observing and communicating with another human being, you inevitably memorize or learn their behavior: likes, dislikes, opinions, personal timing, tendencies, etc so you unconsciously take them in and sometimes repeat them yourself.You're probably right... but it's really, really weird when it happens. Last night Mrs Ali and I dreamed the exact same dream and we were both in each others' dreams.

There's probably a very logical, boring explanation for it, which makes it mundane and uninteresting, like yours above :(

P.S. we only got married last year and have lived together for about a year. Is that long enough?

ms.peachy
10-26-2005, 04:04 AM
Might be, Ali. Because there's also the theory that we tend to hook up with people whose brain patterns are synchronous, or at least, harmonious with our own. Like you know how sometimes you meet someone - not neccessarily a romantic partner, although it could be - and you just 'click' with them, feel completely at ease around them? Could be that you are both acting out of the same sort of brain pattern.

Ali
10-26-2005, 07:52 AM
Might be, Ali. Because there's also the theory that we tend to hook up with people whose brain patterns are synchronous, or at least, harmonious with our own. Like you know how sometimes you meet someone - not neccessarily a romantic partner, although it could be - and you just 'click' with them, feel completely at ease around them? Could be that you are both acting out of the same sort of brain pattern.Well, the brain works on electricity and it produces an electric field, which varies in frequency, depending on your emotional state. So you could find that your thoughts are picked up by somebody in a similar emotional state. Hence couples finishing each others' sentences, or mobs of people behaving as one entity.

You might find that your baby responds to your thoughts and feelings, as the months pass. Ours did, at any rate.

ms.peachy
10-26-2005, 08:24 AM
You might find that your baby responds to your thoughts and feelings, as the months pass. Ours did, at any rate.
If that's true, right now it's thinking "goddamn I could really do with a beer."

Ali
10-26-2005, 09:08 AM
If that's true, right now it's thinking "goddamn I could really do with a beer." :p Poor you!!! You are allowed a beer or two... as long as you drink plenny of wader in between.

zippo
10-26-2005, 03:41 PM
You're probably right... but it's really, really weird when it happens. Last night Mrs Ali and I dreamed the exact same dream and we were both in each others' dreams.

There's probably a very logical, boring explanation for it, which makes it mundane and uninteresting, like yours above :(

probably :(

sam i am
11-04-2005, 12:26 PM
What about gene therapy : the ability to "turn on" and "turn off" certain trademarks or characteristics in the genome along our DNA strands?

Could we find, mark, and change certain genes that are responsible for brain development or cognition-recognition to enhance certain abilities that we are currently unaware even exist?

I'm not just talking telekinesis or "Firestarter" type stuff now, but the actual ability to intuit upcoming events - like tweaking the fight or flight response so we'd all have spidey-sense, so to speak.

Maybe we could identify the ability to self-heal, like extending the lives of cells through telomere therapy. Or, increase certain eyesight or vocal structures so we could have X-ray vision or hear cries for help underwater.

The possibilities are surely endless and marvelous to behold.

BTW, has anyone read 2001 and think we could evolve that direction - i.e, loss of mortality and integration into the structure of the galaxy at large?

fucktopgirl
11-04-2005, 12:48 PM
we are only using 10 to 15% of our brain capability
so what is the 85% left unuse



there is so much unknown potential for the brain

its like you have the hearing,vision,smelling ,touching,speaking
thoses are the sense of anormal developp brain

thelepathy,intuition,premonition, telekinesy :we all have the capacity to do it(almost everybody :D )
some already have it naturely,others would have to developpe it

this is the unknown part of our psyche!

Funkaloyd
11-04-2005, 07:46 PM
we are only using 10 to 15% of our brain capability
so what is the 85% left unuse
Are you more than 10% sure?

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm

jennyb
11-04-2005, 07:55 PM
I think we're all going to be one color and able to travel through time!

(that is, if a nuke or a super virus doesn't get us 1st :( )

fucktopgirl
11-04-2005, 08:00 PM
Are you more than 10% sure?

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
yea ok smart ass
so its a fucking myth!
or is it
see how the world is going,i think it can be true :D

if human where using the full potential of their brain,a lot of thing would be different!

sam i am
11-05-2005, 03:47 PM
yea ok smart ass
so its a fucking myth!
or is it
see how the world is going,i think it can be true :D

if human where using the full potential of their brain,a lot of thing would be different!

How, exactly?

Please explain your comment....

fucktopgirl
11-05-2005, 05:07 PM
How, exactly?

Please explain your comment....

you see,you only use 10 % of your brain.

sam i am
11-06-2005, 06:16 PM
you see,you only use 10 % of your brain.

All I asked for was an explanation....

Sorry I asked. :(

ToucanSpam
11-06-2005, 06:19 PM
I already am a powerful Force user, so telepathy may become more frequent in later generations.


I think that people will develop better swimming skills. Webbed fingers and toes, lose the thumb, and have rubber-like skin.

fucktopgirl
11-06-2005, 09:54 PM
All I asked for was an explanation....

Sorry I asked. :(

dont cry :D
i mean just put more commun sense and compassion in human,imagine the rest!if people where not just focusing on money ,power ,possesion.
thing would be simply,totally different.bu the way the system is made,everything as to evolved aroung money(almost)
like life its jsut about your bank account,your nice car,your freaking house.is like the essence of ourselve is lost in that storm of false information.i mean value are fuck,people have kids and when the munchkins are one year old ,they dumped them in the daycare,and go back doing money while another person raise their kids!for me,this is just lack of brain connection.
so much little things like that that in the big picture is a chaotic existence lacking of something!

anyway i could go on and on and on but you kind a see where i am going,this is proof that human dont use totally their full potential(brain,heart,soul).