History of Violence

[Echewta]

haha, never laughed so hard at a movie in a long time. What a pile. Someone in the audience got upset i was laughing. I can't help it if the chick on screen threw up funny.

[Documad]

That seems like an unlikely movie to be unintentionally funny. I laughed hard throughout Armegedon (sp?) and pissed off my friends, but hello, it was one of the worst movies ever!

[mickill]

You couldn't possibly have laughed during the little "animal crackers" scene with Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler.

[Bob]

no, because that was supposed to be funny

[Documad]

I laughed throughout most of the movie, but not during that scene. I laughed every time they discussed the oncoming danger, and particularly when Bruce Willis decided to make a big sacrifice--all the overwrought drama. My friends should have told me to shut up. I never dreamed they were actually enjoying the movie. :rolleyes:

[abcdefz]

I particularly liked Bruce Willis chasing Ben Affleck around an oil rig, firing off a shotgun repeatedly for comic effect. Smooth.

[abcdefz]

haha, never laughed so hard at a movie in a long time. What a pile. Someone in the audience got upset i was laughing. I can't help it if the chick on screen threw up funny.


I thought her vomit was full of pathos and half-digested waffles.

Maybe it was just me.

[abcdefz]

I actually liked A History of Violence quite a bit. (y)

[Echewta]

seriously? I child could have written and directed that movie. God it was hoooooorrrriiidddd.

[abcdefz]

I liked it.

[abcdefz]

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=57474&highlight=History+Violence

[abcdefz]

....dang. I should've offered a "7.675" option.


Anyway. Good movie.

[Echewta]

I dont see "0" on there :confused:

[Bob]

edit son of a bitch wrong thread

[abcdefz]

I dont see "0" on there :confused:



...if you watched that movie and sicerely thought it rated a "zero," clearly you're bringing something pretty personal to the table. The performances alone kick it up to at least a "two."

[befsquire]

there are probably other movies that sucked harder than a history of violence, but i can't think of them right now.

i want my hour and a half back.

[Drederick Tatum]

I liked it alot.

[befsquire]

then you have horrible taste in movies. if you can even call it taste.

[Bob]

no, because that was supposed to be funny

ohhhh, that was the joke

i was probably drunk

[The Notorious LOL]

Far and away the biggest pile of festering dogshit covered in horse ejaculate.

[roosta]

i find it funny this film is so bashed on here. i mean, i thought it was great, and i could understand someone not liking it, but the level of pure hatred towards it makes me laugh, its not like its "Halloween: Resurrection" or anything.

[na§tee]

i liked it a lot, too.

[abcdefz]

It's a good movie. There are four performances in there alone that make it more than worthwhile.

"How do you fuck that up!?" :D

[abcdefz]

i find it funny this film is so bashed on here. i mean, i thought it was great, and i could understand someone not liking it, but the level of pure hatred towards it makes me laugh, its not like its "Halloween: Resurrection" or anything.


Exactly.

Cronenberg can be flat-out awful (Crash, M Butterfly), but this is not one of those times.

It is funny that it gets under people's skin so much. No idea why. It's not that subversive, really.

[Yeti]

It's a good movie. There are four performances in there alone that make it more than worthwhile.

"How do you fuck that up!?" :D

William Hurt!

[venusvenus123]

i just added it to my online movie rental thing. i'll report back. one day.

[abcdefz]

William Hurt!


(y)


He was fucking GOLD in that movie.




What I don't get is people on this board BASHING Crash so bad. Not the David Cronenburg one, the other.

or maybe that's just mr. films.



No, Crash-bashers are legion. :D

I haven't seen the whole thing, so I'm not qualified to speak about it on a whole, but the thing that set my teeth gnashing was that it was setting up all its themes with carboard strawmen: people lashed out racially in ways that isn't really at all like human behavior, To Make a Point. It's so condescending and manipulative in its disdain for the audience's intelligence that it commits major sins simultaneously: it lies about people to show the great unwashed All About Righteousness, and by rejecting the intelligence of the audience out of hand, it's as bigoted as anybody else up on that screen. Just because the acting was (sometimes) better than an after-school special doesn't mean it wasn't just as shamelessly dishonest.

I guess you could argue that Haggis' Crash was just as stylized as A History of Violence, but it was so humorless it couldn't tip at all toward observant social satire the way Cronenberg's movie does. I guess that's why I assume Haggis' Crash fails on the whole in a way that Cronenberg's Violence succeeds.

[The Notorious LOL]

It is funny that it gets under people's skin so much. No idea why. It's not that subversive, really.


I think what got under my skin about it is the critical circle jerk and the fact that it was nominated for a bunch of awards. fuck outta here.

[Yeti]

I think what got under my skin about it is the critical circle jerk and the fact that it was nominated for a bunch of awards. fuck outta here.

I liked the film......... and don't knock a critical circle jerk until you have tried it.

[abcdefz]

I think what got under my skin about it is the critical circle jerk and the fact that it was nominated for a bunch of awards. fuck outta here.


I think the "critical circle jerk" was probably because it was a solid, fairly masterful comeback of sorts for Cronenberg with some legitimately terrific acting and technical aspects. It's probably hard not to get your panties in a bunch and start thinkig a B or B+ movie is an A or A+ if you've been hung out to dry for a little while on a particular director.

Jeez, I hope you were more pissed off about Gangs of New York than this one. Now, that was a piece of shit -- art direction and Daniel Day Lewis nothwithstanding.

[The Notorious LOL]

never saw it, nor did I have any interest.

[Yeti]

Jeez, I hope you were more pissed off about Gangs of New York than this one. Now, that was a piece of shit -- art direction and Daniel Day Lewis nothwithstanding.

My left foot!!!! Bill the Butcher!

[MC Moot]

I actually liked A History of Violence quite a bit. (y)


If you have yet to,you should check out the graphic novel by John Wagner and Vince Locke,ultraviolent crime novella,the movie is pretty faithful....Cronenburg has some great "long shot" cinematography throughout the flick that I love almost Kubrick like...great "look'....(y)

[befsquire]

Cronenberg can be flat-out awful (Crash, M Butterfly), but this is not one of those times.
see, i thought crash was really good.

here's my main problem with this movie. i really didn't give a fuck if the main characters got killed. the beginning starts off with the dudes murdering the hotel people and they're going east. ok. then, somewhere east, we see this family. so, we immediately know they are going to end up interacting with this family somehow. then the parents dump the kids so they can have sex, where you don't see a damn thing and oooh, she's wearing a cheerleading uniform. whatever. so then you see the dad with the bad dudes. that scene was great, and you think "awesome, the film will get good now" but then it doesn't. there's some rough sex on the stairs where there's still no nudity, but then she walks out of the bathroom with her robe open and that's where the nudity is stuck in, making no sense whatsoever. nothing in this movie is properly in it's place, is my point. and, you can pretty much script everything and how it's going to go down. not a single surprise.

there's more, i just don't feel like typing it.

[abcdefz]

SPOILERS


The movie-movie predictability of it is part of the point; how we are entertained by violence so much that we symbolically set a place for it at the table in our own homes and have developed this uneasy symbiotic relationship with the monster. That's how the grim joke gets turned on its head. And that it's the child who literally sets the table is all about the inheritance of those things, and how generations pass it on as a more and more acceptable -- maybe even desirable -- thing.

I mean -- look at your avatar, bef. Jeez -- so gangsta. You gots a gunz. And you see that shit everywhere; flashing a piece, I'm so cool. Why do people think that's cool? Why do people think "we niggas in the street kill without a blink" (some rapper in one of the other threads here) --- why did that become COOL instead of cowardly or horrifying? Because that kind of devaluation IS horror. We haven't had this kind of devaluation of life since slavery.

The idea of "we're all implicated" is kind of clichéd, but this is a much, much craftier way of doing it than Natural Born Killers or something.

[The Notorious LOL]

Natural Born Killers is much better