So is "Scooter" going to be made the scapegoat and everyone else get off scott free?

[King PSYZ]

thoughts?

[Ace42X]

Republicans do so many big and transparent things wrong that it is a joke to think they'd get caught out by something like this. There's one billion fallguys to go before anyone critical gets the finger.

[QueenAdrock]

I said he'll be found not guilty, because I'm a cynical asshole. These indictments have made me happy, but I don't think much will come of it. Just like in November 2004, John Kerry fucking SLAUGHTERED Bush in the debates, which made me smile. But I knew that this public is too brainwashed and sheep-like to make wise decisions, and that power and greed corrupts the masses.

[D_Raay]

While I know that all of you that had high hopes for a windfall of indictments here are probably disappointed, you may be reacting too quickly.

First of all, what we do have so far is quite serious. The chief of staff in Cheney's office has resigned and is charged with some serious crimes.
Secondly, this investigation is far from over, although Fitzgerald's involvement is probably limited now.

There will be another investigation, IMO, and this one will be delve into the reasons for going to war, the forged documents from Niger, and torture. Most likely these will be conducted by Congress itself.

The political fallout from this is going to warrant much more than just the Libby indictment, despite the pressure the White House will put on to sweep this mess under the rug.


*edit* Also, after reading Fitzgerald's entire transcript from earlier today, I found the part where he implied that the nation would be damaged rather intriguing. When pressed about that he wouldn't comment any further on it making me think he was actually talking about a further investigation he had yet to finish. Maybe just speculation, but we will see.
My greatest fear right now is a staged terror attack to startle the sheeple back into submission.

[DroppinScience]

Guys, it's the first in a series of indictments, I'm sure of it.

Remember, Watergate took a long time to get going until senior Nixon administration officials took the fall. It didn't end with the five men who broke into the DNC headquarters...

[King PSYZ]

god damn if that pic on cnn.com isn't classic "oh fuck" I don't know what is.

[QueenAdrock]

blahhahahahha! great picture!

"A sad day for Libby" *sniffles*

Gimme a fuckin' break.

[Documad]

I think he will plead guilty. The question is whether he rats anyone else out to get a better deal or whether he just pleads straight up and continues to protect Cheney. I bet he doesn't rat.

That doesn't mean they can't get at some other people through some other method, but I'm not at all sure.

[DJ_Skrilla]

I have heard this is going to be a domino effect which most likely will lead right back to Cheney himself, if not Bush. That is, however, if Scooter decides to give them more information to go off. Now if I graduated as Magna Cum Laude from harvard I wouldnt probably want to go from the white house to the big house, so I would testify on my behalf, instead of trying to cover up for others (which is exactly what got him into this mess). Of course I would love for it to be Karl Rove, who wouldn't, but this is one mess that smells exactly like Nixon in 73?!

Simply put when the Elites get so much power, think start to think they are above the law and get caught slipping. Its kind of like dirty cops except on bigger scale.

[ms.peachy]

I'm feeling sunny and optimistic this morning, so I've voted first of many.

Of course, I've been let down so many times before... but I still have hope.

[sam i am]

I'm feeling sunny and optimistic this morning, so I've voted first of many.

Of course, I've been let down so many times before... but I still have hope.

So, your "hope" is for many more indictments? And convictions, I'm sure, right?

Get ready to be let down again.

[D_Raay]

So, your "hope" is for many more indictments? And convictions, I'm sure, right?

Get ready to be let down again.
How completely ridiculous to comment in such a manner. Are you of the mind that nothing wrong has taken place here? If so you are in a rather tiny minority of mentally blinded and perhaps disabled or enfeebled people, unless you are being facetious. In that case I don't find it amusing.

[Ali]

How completely ridiculous to comment in such a manner. Are you of the mind that nothing wrong has taken place here? If so you are in a rather tiny minority of mentally blinded and perhaps disabled or enfeebled people, unless you are being facetious. In that case I don't find it amusing.Maybe he's joking again :rolleyes:

[sam i am]

How completely ridiculous to comment in such a manner. Are you of the mind that nothing wrong has taken place here? If so you are in a rather tiny minority of mentally blinded and perhaps disabled or enfeebled people, unless you are being facetious. In that case I don't find it amusing.

I was actually only commenting on what I think will happen. That Libby will probably not be convicted, based on the facts of this particular case and that there is unlikely to be more indictments or convictions.

I DO think there have been UNETHICAL behaviors, but they do not rise to illegalities, IMO.

Libby was right to resign. There will be other resignations, I'm sure. Cheney and Bush won't be touched, and that's the real source of evil, in your opinion, anyways, isn't it?

So, it's a collective mindfuck to expect that Bush and/or Cheney will fall due to "Plamegate," again, IMHO.

[D_Raay]

I was actually only commenting on what I think will happen. That Libby will probably not be convicted, based on the facts of this particular case and that there is unlikely to be more indictments or convictions.

I DO think there have been UNETHICAL behaviors, but they do not rise to illegalities, IMO.

Libby was right to resign. There will be other resignations, I'm sure. Cheney and Bush won't be touched, and that's the real source of evil, in your opinion, anyways, isn't it?

So, it's a collective mindfuck to expect that Bush and/or Cheney will fall due to "Plamegate," again, IMHO.
Based on the facts of this particular case that you are not privy to, you mean?
Rather you should say, he won't be convicted because he's on my team, and just because I say so.

[yeahwho]

Based on the facts of this particular case that you are not privy to, you mean?
Rather you should say, he won't be convicted because he's on my team, and just because I say so.

I know sam i am is right on one point, that part about a collective mindfuck has been going on since the SCOTUS appointed GWB.

Go Team!

[sam i am]

Based on the facts of this particular case that you are not privy to, you mean?
Rather you should say, he won't be convicted because he's on my team, and just because I say so.

Nope. I've read the indictment. The lying thing is the only part he'll have a hard time overcoming. But look at the lawyers he'll likely employ and you'll see the LIKELIHOOD of him being convicted is vanishingly small.

Clinton wasn't convicted for the same thing, either, as he shouldn't have been. Guilt is not the question here, only whether it is a convictable offense. From what I've read in the indictment, it's not rising to the level of convictionhood.