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TonsOfFun

11-02-2005, 04:33 PM

wrote something down with my ID. My mind wasn't engaged and it wasn't until I was back in my car I thought to myself, what the hell did she write down. So I'm gonna walk back tomorrow to ask. I'd hate to think any of my personal details was recorded. I know she wrote down the time and my age. Dunno what the other sections was for. If they have recorded any of my personal details I'm getting a manager to tell me why they have such an invasive practice!

I hate being asked for ID as it is. I'm fucking 25 years old, I look no where near 18, thus why I've only been asked once before in the last 6 years. Fucking cow bitch with too much make up on :mad: Hate it.

Does anyone work at Sainsburys that can let me know what was recorded? And why you do it?

ms.peachy

11-02-2005, 04:51 PM

If I had to guess, which I do, since I don't know, I would say she probably wrote down your DoB and what kind of ID it was. This woulde be so that if later it turned out there was any problem, let's say you were in fact underage and got caught in a DUI or something, the store can show they were practising due diligence in checking and have no liability.

TonsOfFun

11-02-2005, 04:54 PM

They shouldn't of written down my Date Of Birth. I'm still fuming and the more whiskey I drink it doesn't help :p If they just wrote down "age 25 & Jamesons @ 20:45" then I'll accept it cus there is nothing there. DoB, then I'm seeing a manager.

edit: my point being, seeing a picture of me and my drivers license with my DoB on is enough to not have to record it. If they think I faked the ID then she should of said.

DandyFop

11-02-2005, 04:56 PM

Yeah, this really sounds like something you should get upset about and use energy stressing over...

TonsOfFun

11-02-2005, 05:00 PM

Yeah, this really sounds like something you should get upset about and use energy stressing over...

sarcasm noted. What are you a fucking Labour supporter?

I hate the fact information about me or anyone is recorded for reasons that I'm not told about. It's an invasion of privacy. Plus I'm not 17 years old or under. I hate being asked for ID (which is a personal annoyance). A company shouldn't have more information on me than they need to. I don't look like an age where ID needs to be asked for anything anymore, it felt wrong she was asking and even more wrong she wrote something down about it with my ID. She ain't the fucking police. She has no right. I know I offered this information but I was innocent in thinking it was just to 'check' rather than 'record'. There is a big difference in my opinion.

mickill

11-02-2005, 05:01 PM

If they think I faked the ID then she should of said.
She should have said...?

Said, "Hmm...Well, you know, I think this is fake, but I'm gonna have to take your word unfortunately."?

tracky

11-02-2005, 05:02 PM

TonsOfFun

11-02-2005, 05:04 PM

She should have said...?

Said, "Hmm...Well, you know, I think this is fake, but I'm gonna have to take your word unfortunately."?

Yes, it's as daft as it sounds. If she cannot take my driver license as proof and has to record even more information from it, then she assumes or Sainsburys assumes that ID given has a % worth of fake ones shown that it has to record info shown. You either accept my ID and that I'm a truthful human being or you don't. No need for extra records because this situation doesn't warrant it.

zippo

11-02-2005, 05:06 PM

tonsofun has cookies turned OFF

ms.peachy

11-02-2005, 05:08 PM

TonsOfFun

11-02-2005, 05:15 PM

I think ms.peachy is probably right. They need to cover their arse in case some kid gets caught.

And yeah, stop worrying about it! If they wrote down your dob and lisence # you've really got nothing to worry about.

Well, don't accept it even if the ID does look real if you are still unsure. They don't have to serve me. They have a right not to serve me.

Writing down info is not on in my book. How do I know this information is disposed of properly? I've seen no signs or no information was given to me on how this information might be used in the future. I don't trust big business enough to beleive that that these stats of my are not gonna be used in some marketing I disagree with.

It's hard to explain what I mean but if I started to record IP addresses from this site just because I can, I would understand why people would be pissed. I understand why the admin here might but when I submit I agreed to such invasions because I trusted it enough. I don't trust Sainsburys enough not to know what info was recorded. The fact still remains, I wasn't informed information about me was recorded which must be illegal somewhere even in this Nanny-State-Island I live on. It's all about principles.

Anyway, fuck you guys, it has annoyed me, it's not right info gets recorded without consent. I'm logging off now because my glass is empty and I'm pissed off more at the thought of this even if none of you understand where I am coming from! :mad: Now no-one reply unless you work at Sainsburys or can convince me that this ain't an evil ploy for marketing or any other research.

zippo

11-02-2005, 05:16 PM

Seriously though TOF, if this is the biggest thing you have to worry about in life... well, that's a pretty sweet life then.

Seriously, what nefarious purposes do you really think the cashier at Sainsbury's is getting up to with your DoB?

oh leave him alone already, why the hell cant he have his little paranoia with his personal information anyway, we all have our shit dont we

roosta

11-02-2005, 05:18 PM

what's the problem in being asked for ID to buy booze? its there to PREVENT CHILDREN DRINKING ALCOHOL! just fucking get on with it, buy your whiskey and get drunk.

TonsOfFun

11-02-2005, 05:19 PM

Ok more posts have happened while I typed my last rant:

Yes I do have a pretty sweet life thanks. I don't work, I only work for myself. And yes this is my biggest problem until about December when I have no money. And you fuckers will know about that to! :p

ms.peachy

11-02-2005, 05:22 PM

I don't work, I only work for myself.
You take molehills and reconstruct them as mountains on a professional basis, then?

mickill

11-02-2005, 05:25 PM

You take molehills and reconstruct them as mountains on a professional basis, then?
Oh man. I think I just L'ed out L.

buddylee

11-02-2005, 06:35 PM

probly your address so he can ask you out.

DJ_Skrilla

11-02-2005, 06:37 PM

they usually have to do that when they get in trouble for selling to minors.

Tzar

11-02-2005, 07:48 PM

we have to ask peoples who look younger than 25 for ID if they wanna buy cigarettes. i work at a supermarket - COLES REPRAZENTIN'! - and yeah... it'd be so much easier if we only had to people who looked younger than 18 for ID.

Lindsey_1535

11-02-2005, 07:51 PM

I love being asked for ID. I jsut shove it in their face!!! LOOK IM 18 BITCHES!!

Tzar

11-02-2005, 07:52 PM

I love being asked for ID. I jsut shove it in their face!!! LOOK IM 18 BITCHES!!WERD! i love it. then i smile at them; not as in "thank you kind sir!" but like "yeawwwh fuckhead, i'm 18 cunt!"

Bob

11-02-2005, 08:30 PM

beastieangel01

11-03-2005, 12:21 AM

um, you do look 18. Sorry!

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 12:22 AM

i got carded for an M rated video game once. that was embarassing.

i'm always nervous when i show my ID, because even though i'm legitimately 21 (finally) i don't look anything like my picture (my hair is much shorter now), and the first two bars i went to they almost didn't let me in. so i'm always nervous about that now.

don't most peopel who are 21 still have the liscences that they first got?

so don't that have a pic that is like 5 years old on their liscence?

Medellia

11-03-2005, 12:24 AM

I was carded when going to see Troy. I didn't even want to see it, so being carded just made my day even more sucktastic.

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 12:26 AM

yeah i got carded recently at the movies. i just looked at the bitch like,"im fuckn' 22!"

tracky

11-03-2005, 01:10 AM

I get it every so often buying smokes. I just look at them like "get the fuck outta here" and pull the card out. Funny thing is I used to use my school id to buy booze all the time at school. When we got our school ID's made they let us fill our own details in. :D I'd just take the P plates off the car, drive thru, but if i got checked i'd just look thru my wallet then go "argh shit i left my license at home, this ok?" - shit worked every time. Every wednesday usually ;)

Rancid_Beasties

11-03-2005, 01:41 AM

Yeah you guys can drive at 16 in SA right?

Heh...I dont even have my L plates and I'm 19 in like 10 days.

Ohh, and trust me, the person who is carding you feels just as uncomfortable as you do.

Tzar

11-03-2005, 01:44 AM

the person who is carding you feels just as uncomfortable as you do.
i can agree with you, here.
and i don't have my license either, not even my L's :D

guerillaGardner

11-03-2005, 02:02 AM

I've never been asked for ID. At the age of 12 I was the guy who looked old enough to buy porn for my pals, who people got to pretend I was a teacher if I walked in on a classroom and everyone was going crazy coz the teacher hadn't arrived.

tracky

11-03-2005, 02:03 AM

Yeah you guys can drive at 16 in SA right?

Heh...I dont even have my L plates and I'm 19 in like 10 days.

Ohh, and trust me, the person who is carding you feels just as uncomfortable as you do.

Yeah, 16 although I dunno whether that's changing, they're always talking about it. When I was working at the BP i was only 15, and had to ask people for ID all the time, man some of the reactions you get range from hilarious to just scarey. After a while you just get used to it, and start to figure out who to ask and who not to ask.

Rancid_Beasties

11-03-2005, 02:12 AM

Yeah chicks seem to be offended more than guys, which is weird (I thought girls wanted to look young). Usually guys who are just 18 are bloody proud of their ID's and want to be asked. I've had a few actually ask me to ID them.

Also its funny to compare the ID checking practices of Dan Murphy's compared to a smaller bottleshop. Dan Murphy's wont let anyone in a group buy alcohol if one of the people are underage. Once when I went there a friend of mine didnt have their ID, so when the lady began checking our ID's he ran away and pretended he wasnt with us so that they couldnt refuse us. Then she said to the security guard "wasn't that guy outside in their group" and we were like "theres 5 of us in here, and we have a mazda 121, you really think we could fit six in that shit" and she said "fine" and let us buy our booze.

Little did she know we did fit 6 in there (y)

Whereas smaller bottle-o's like the one I work at are alot more lenient.

Tzar

11-03-2005, 02:48 AM

Whereas smaller bottle-o's like the one I work at are alot more lenient.
indeed. i was buying my alcohol, when under-aged, at a local one. i still buy from there cause their 6er of stella is $18 bucks.

Rancid_Beasties

11-03-2005, 04:49 AM

6 packs of stella here are 13-15 bucks most places.

tracky

11-03-2005, 05:13 AM

why buy just a 6 pack? You pay like double, and you're only gonna drink more later. I don't drink very often, but I still buy my beer in cartons. I get a carton of coopers pale ale for about $35, I think. I don't really pay much attention and just pay the man :p

mikizee

11-03-2005, 05:36 AM

35 bucks for a carton of pale? u can get it cheaper, BWS were doing it for 32.99 or 33.19 only a few days ago. i remember when i first started drinking a schooner of pale was $2.15 (y)

Rancid_Beasties

11-03-2005, 06:12 AM

Damn you South Australians. Coopers pale is like 40 bucks here (n)

Mcmac

11-03-2005, 06:14 AM

once again rancid beasties craps on about alchohole :rolleyes:

Rancid_Beasties

11-03-2005, 06:21 AM

once again rancid beasties craps on about alchohole :rolleyes:
You would too if you worked in a bottleshop and were at uni.

Tzar

11-03-2005, 07:29 AM

i always buy a 6er on the way home from work on satdey, and i ride too. so carrying a carton on a bike is pretty impossible and i aint trying either!

13-15 bucks?! 18 is cheap. they fetch 20 upwards everywhere else. i spose the local beer fetches cheaper in it's local states. once i fill up mt stella bottle with caps; i'll move onto another beer and it's looking to be jim boags prem. even though the only time i tasted it i was too drunk to taste flavour.

tracky

11-03-2005, 08:04 AM

35 bucks for a carton of pale? u can get it cheaper, BWS were doing it for 32.99 or 33.19 only a few days ago. i remember when i first started drinking a schooner of pale was $2.15 (y)

yeah i think it was like 33.95 or something, but i don't really drink enough to worry about a couple of bucks anyway.

Fair enuf on the 6 pack / bike tzar. Get a car :p Not that I can talk. Right now I havn't got one either :(

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 08:08 AM

wait

you austrailians also have certain plates on your car if you're underage?

and what's the drinking age there? is it the same age you're legally considered an adult?

tracky

11-03-2005, 08:12 AM

"L" plates are for learners, i think that's at 16, then at 16 1/2 you go to "P" plates, which are both just like these plastic squares with L and P written on them that you stick on the window or whatever

When she's 17 you can hit it

When you're 18 you can drink

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 08:13 AM

and at what age can you tell your parents to go fuck themselves?

tracky

11-03-2005, 08:14 AM

I guess as soon as you can talk and sign a divorce paper

edit - not really sure what you mean?

double edit wham! 18 you're an adult

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 08:16 AM

you know what i mean. or maybe you don't. over hear you're a legal adult a 18. at this age your parents can legally abondond you, tell you to fuck off or vice versa.

edit: edits suck

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 08:18 AM

now say you're like 16 and for some reason you're not driveing a car that doesn't have L plates on them, what can happen?

tracky

11-03-2005, 08:21 AM

not much really. i guess it depends on who's car, whether you actually had your L's and by the way, you also need a fully licensed driver with the L plate driver. P plate drivers can drive alone. If the cops caught you without the P's up, it really would probably depend on the cop and your attitude towards them. I guess they can fine you or something. You're not going to jail tho, lets put it that way.

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 08:29 AM

we get learners permits here before we get tested for a liscence. and you need to go to driveing school in order to get a liscence before you're 18. driveing school is like $600. you can get a leaner's permit at sixteen and need to have it for at least 6 months before you can get your liscence. so the absolute earliest you can get your liscence is 16 and a half. while haveing your learners permit you're only alloud to drive with an adult family member. and when you do get your liscence and you're under 18 you're not alloud to drive with other kids underage unless they are family. and you can't drive from like 12 at night till 5 in the morning for like the first 6 months or something.

is it as strict there?

tracky

11-03-2005, 08:35 AM

No but to be honest, it probably needs to be a little more strict if anything. They need to put some limits on the power of the car for learners too. A while a learner lost control of the V8 commodore, wrote it off and killed most if not all of her family, if I recall correctly. That's just one example tho, there's lots of kids driving around with far too much power than they know how to handle, and they put their cars into trees and shit, with passengers. A guy I went to school with wrote off his mate's dad's mercedes, killing his mate and another passenger. He was a serious fuckhead tho, he was the same guy that turned a girl anorexic by calling her a fat cow (I think I've told that story here b4...)

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 08:42 AM

it's kind of rare here for parents to allow their kids to drive cars like that. usually the kids is stuck with some piece of shit till they can afford there own car that is less of a piece of shit.

TonsOfFun

11-03-2005, 08:47 AM

Ok, I did do a long post about how I'm an angry drunk, reasons why I thought it might be illegal. Why I like to do stuff for AI and answering some of your points. But then when I clicked submit reply the board said something about the board being gay and I couldn't post cus too many retards was on the board or something.

Anyway, fuck all that! I went back to Sainburys and they don't record any personal information. Just time, whiskey, what ID was seen and if they are refused a description of who they are! It is illegal to record such info without consent. You idiots saying that they might of took my license number or date of birth are wrong because they can't. I saw one of their forms and the manager confirmed what I needed to know.

I would hate to think that they would ever get to such a point where an invasion of privacy would be accepted like I first assumed. Which has been my point all along. And thus my question in my first post asking if anyone works there that could tell me.

So this thread is dead, my faith in humanity at least in the UK has been restored...

...for now!

tracky

11-03-2005, 09:11 AM

I think we'll all sleep a little better tonight ;)

But seriously, I'm filling out applications for houses/units, they all want my license # and dob, and I put it there without blinking. Granted that's more for security, but at the end of the day, I'm still giving out those details. If the bottle shop took a photo copy of my license, I would start to question things.

Tzar

11-03-2005, 09:13 AM

tzar. Get a car :p Not that I can talk. Right now I havn't got one either :(
i have a car...

i just don't have a license. :D call me lazy - i'm pretty meh about it 'ey.

tracky

11-03-2005, 09:17 AM

it's kind of rare here for parents to allow their kids to drive cars like that. usually the kids is stuck with some piece of shit till they can afford there own car that is less of a piece of shit.

heheh yeah it's still like that too, for most of us. But for those that are allowed to drive the parents' newer more powerful cars, there should be some limit on the power or capacity somewhere. That's just my opinion, tho. Every 16-20 year old would probably want me castrated for saying it. But they do it with motorbikes, so why not cars? First car I drove was a 1979 VW passat, second car was a 1969 corolla sprinter, so in a way I kinda downgraded :p

TurdBerglar

11-03-2005, 09:23 AM

there's a lot of cars over in australia that we don't get. some even made by american manufacturers

tracky

11-03-2005, 09:29 AM

you'll probably find there are the same cars, just have different names. It's all about marketing too, like you probably get some "aussie" cars we don't get, cause they're really built for americans, and our "american" cars are really built for australians. By that I mean all the compliance, and things we are used to etc. I'm not sure, I'm not really that into cars on the whole. I like mechanics and stuff, a bit, and I like a few cars, but I don't know all the makes and models etc.

ms.peachy

11-03-2005, 09:46 AM

Just time, whiskey, what ID was seen and if they are refused a description of who they are! It is illegal to record such info without consent. You idiots saying that they might of took my license number or date of birth are wrong because they can't.

1) I never said they took your driver's license number, I said they were probably recording the type of ID is was, such as a driver's license.

2) I made it quite clear that I was taking a guess as to what made the most sense to me, and that I did not actually know. It seemed possible to me that they would write down the DoB to confirm the age. I did not know this is illegal. As I said, I was guessing.

3) I am not an idiot. I was offering an explanation, I'm sorry if you didn't like it but you posted asking us - people who weren't there, for fucks sake - what we tthink might have happened. I'm sorry you didn't like the answers - ie, guesses - that you got back. Next time, instead of asking a question that you don't really want to hear people's answers to, how about you think to yourself "Maybe I should go fuck myself instead."

ericlee

11-03-2005, 10:01 AM

Don't feel bad. When I first got home on vacation I went to my local bar with my DoD id badge along with my American passport and they wouldn't let me in because I didn't have a stateside driver's liscense. I told them first of all, I haven't been in the states for 3 years and another thing I didn't intend on driving my car inside their bar.

TonsOfFun

11-03-2005, 11:27 AM

I didn't mean to say YOU Ms. Peachy. I didn't realise I did say 'you'. I just know some one suggested that they took that number. Which made me more paranoid and an angry drunk. In my last reply I also 'might' like was suggested.

It wasn't anything towards you. Sorry you took it as such.

edit: I read it back, there is nothing in there to suggest anyone specified and I cannot be bothered to pick out those who I was referring to.

edit again: When I refer to idiots, I mean the board as a whole. As this board is idiotic. I wasn't calling you or anyone an idiot. I was referring to the board as a collective becomes an idiot. And it's an enderring term. Same way we call Bioniceye Gay :p

edit again again: I also used 'might' first time anyway. Like you did so you was right and just assumed I didn't use 'might' the same way I 'might' of done and the same way you didn't bother to read my message correctly and assumed I didn't use the word 'might' when I obviously did.

And yeah, stop worrying about it! If they wrote down your dob and lisence # you've really got nothing to worry about.

Noted 'if' was used. I'm sorry Ms. Peachy I might of been referring to this post and I didn't read it correctly

Seriously, what nefarious purposes do you really think the cashier at Sainsbury's is getting up to with your DoB?

I was trying to point out that it wasn't the cashier I didn't trust but Sainsburys.

You take molehills and reconstruct them as mountains on a professional basis, then?

I just thought that once accepted invasion of privacy leads to more accepted invasions until we don't know where we are.

1) I never said they took your driver's license number, I said they were probably recording the type of ID is was, such as a driver's license.

Again, I've read this for a 4th time. I know you didn't. I cannot believe I've checked all this cus I don't like insulting people. Because I really haven't

2) I made it quite clear that I was taking a guess as to what made the most sense to me, and that I did not actually know. It seemed possible to me that they would write down the DoB to confirm the age. I did not know this is illegal. As I said, I was guessing.

Yes I know, which is why I said 'might' of suggested they took my license number in my reply. This is getting to complicated to quote me in my own quote so read it properly. And as for the illegal bit, which is why I said 'might' of suggested. I cannot repeat this enough.

3) I am not an idiot. I was offering an explanation, I'm sorry if you didn't like it but you posted asking us - people who weren't there, for fucks sake - what we tthink might have happened. I'm sorry you didn't like the answers - ie, guesses - that you got back. Next time, instead of asking a question that you don't really want to hear people's answers to, how about you think to yourself "Maybe I should go fuck myself instead."

I didn't say I didn't like the answers. Now calm down. I mean seriously, you've annoyed me with such a reply taken out of context. There wasn't one point I meant to cause offense and because I've read this so many time I beleive I have to say sorry to you for something you took the wrong way. So I am sorry. I made it clear the same way you did that all you 'idiots' as I put it. Which I should of changed for something else in hindsight. I didn't say anywhere I didn't want to hear peoples answers. People just disagreed with me that it wasn't an invasion of privacy when I thought it was.

It's just a message board. The word idiots has only been used as a collective.

I know I've repeated myself here but like I say. I do not go out to offend people. But it annoys me when you think I have just because I'm always arguing with you.

I do not know how to clarify things more because the more I read this reply, the more I think some one will take offence. If I use insulting words, it's just in the context of the board. I don't mean it. So please don't take offence because I didn't mean you and I didn't you the term 'ms peachy is an idiot for suggesting'. I used the words 'some of you idiots might of suggested'. I wish I could clarify this more. Now accept my apology for both our misunderstandings that the word 'might' may or may of not been read the first 2nd, 3rd, 4th times I've read this thread. I didn't mean to cause offense. The word 'might' was used but may or may of not been read.

TonsOfFun

11-03-2005, 11:56 AM

You idiots saying that they might of took my license number or date of birth are wrong because they can't. I saw one of their forms and the manager confirmed what I needed to know.

just to clarify further, the word might highlighted in bold does not mean Ms. Peachy :p

Sorry, I'm being daft now.

What I'm saying is I do not offend on this board. Any language used to offend is in jest. Unless it's buddylee cus I really hate that nazi...

:p

Ok, I'm seriously gone now.

ms.peachy

11-03-2005, 11:59 AM

Well... OK then.

(I may also be slightly hugely hormonal and prone to overly emotional outbursts due to to my infanticulated condition. So I'm sorry too. Probably.)

WHUFC

11-03-2005, 03:45 PM

ill be 17 in a month and it still gets me when i get asked for I.D namely because i havnt got it. england has got so strict over the last 40 years its rediculous, my dad told me when he was 13 he could go into any pub and order what he liked, no problem i mean if im tired from a hard days work or rather not and i want to have a pint with no agro involved why shouldnt i? not having a drink is what makes me angry i mean its tempting to put the barmans i eye out on one of the pumps. luckily my locals serve me so i wont be spending time in feltham (y) and thank fuck you can still drink on trains for the whole weekend i was in shivers that they might ban one of my little plesures of drinking a brew when coming back from footie. this goverment doesnt want anyone to have any fun

TonsOfFun

11-03-2005, 05:23 PM

^Well I'm only 25 and when I was 14 I got served in a pub. So it's probably only the last 10 years it has gotten like that.

Still hate it. I take offence to such things.

Oh, & Ms Peachy. Sorry for the kinda-sarcastic posts earlier - edit's and stuff a few posts back. That bitch of an ex was texting me and I was taking my frustration out on here. I've turned my phone off now. I should know better than to argue with pregnant women anyway. Just because she annoys me I shouldn't take it out on the rest of women-kind... And now I'm out of whiskey. A bottle every two days ain't so good either. I've gotta stop drinking. It make me angry and I already have a temper.

Soooo, yeah... I'm in reflection mode now. Thinking about things in a half drunken haze...

roosta

11-03-2005, 05:42 PM

boo fucking hoo

big brother is after us!! wooo!!

Mcmac

11-04-2005, 10:14 PM

Rancid_Beasties

11-04-2005, 10:17 PM

I'm pretty sure learners can drive V8's, or at least up until about a year ago (they're always changing things). P plate drivers can't. P plate drivers technically can't go over 80km/h either or something rediculous like that.

Tzar

11-05-2005, 04:29 AM

p platers over here can drive any engine; V8 to twin turbo'd.
the worst is when you see a p-plate up in a fucking horny looking WRX :( or a phat beemer <--- but then you know it's his/her dad's car.

voltanapricot

11-05-2005, 02:56 PM

i mean if im tired from a hard days work or rather not and i want to have a pint with no agro involved why shouldnt i?
I'm going to hazard a guess and say it's because you're underage?

WHUFC

11-06-2005, 10:36 AM

yeah but not thaaat much underage i mean it should be the law that you can drink at 18 but no one should take it seriously