yesterday i got a butt implant

[fucktopgirl]

liposuction,breasth liftwith implanst ddd,face strech,nose job,jaw implant,laser on my skin.to day i feel like a baseball bat just hhad hit me
but its the price to pay to be pretty :D by the same time my bf thought his ball where hanging A bit so he get them lift!

man what the fuck,thoses people who do plactic surgery(the victimes of the plastic surgeon) should be in mental health institution!is like people(especially women,but more man nowadays)cannot accept the fact that you cannot look like a 20 years old all your life!

what your stand on that,would you go for a surgery a one time?

[cookiepuss]

I am both facinated and discusted by plastic surgery.

personally I feel the risks out weigh the postive effects of plastic surgery so i would not do it for myself unless I had a terrible accident and needed reconstructive surgery to fix myself.

[beastiegirrl101]

I feel to each his / her own. If there is something you want to change go ahead and do it, whatever makes you happy and who cares what anyone thinks, its your life.

[K-nowledge]

It's all in the name of vain.

[beastiegirrl101]

It's all in the name of vain.

I beg to differ.

[cookiepuss]

I beg to differ.

yes, but would you really feel the need to change anything about yourself if our society wasn't so focused on physical appearance.

how natrual is our obsession with looks?

[fucktopgirl]

yes, but would you really feel the need to change anything about yourself if our society wasn't so focused on physical appearance.

how natrual is our obsession with looks?


yea ,surgery is good if you get disfigurated,but otherswise,,its all"bul.."
i mean it so superficial.my intro post ,the thing about guy ball,its true ,even guy go for getting their penis enlarged
pahahah command!get a life!its just a money business(da)and ignorant ,inoccent people who have poor estime of themselve get hook in the net!
it like that show "swan"they changed ugly girl(boy),at the end the revealing,the people see their new me for the fist time
and they are hysterical
"i am so beautiful ,oh my god i am beautiful"then they cry.

its give me a envy to piouk!

[beastieangel01]

I feel to each his / her own. If there is something you want to change go ahead and do it, whatever makes you happy and who cares what anyone thinks, its your life.

pretty much.

personally, there are things I'd like to fix or change but it's not like I can afford it. That and when I see things being done to others, the actual surgeries themselves, it freaks me the hell out.

I don't care if I don't feel it, knives cutting any part of my skin in any way freaks me out so much. *shudder

[fucktopgirl]

pretty much.

personally, there are things I'd like to fix or change but it's not like I can afford it. That and when I see things being done to others, the actual surgeries themselves, it freaks me the hell out.

I don't care if I don't feel it, knives cutting any part of my skin in any way freaks me out so much. *shudder


like to fix what your boob,nose,,

[beastieangel01]

nose. That's it actually.

Maybe a boobie reduction.

But again, the knives scare the living crap out of me. They make me want to cry.

[cookiepuss]

the thing about many of these procedures is that they require "upkeep" or additional surgeries, i.e. breat implant that need to be changed ever 5-10 yrs.

also a very high number of people who have plastic surgery expereince complecations which lead them to seek more plastic surgery to "fix" previous precedures that didn't come out right.


Plastic surgery shows on TV do nothing to bring these risks to light. they constantly encourage women to get breast implants with absolutely no mention of the up keep involved,

[fucktopgirl]

fuck ,doctor with knive,avoid that if you cant

when i did ahve my daughter,i had a scisection(she was upside down and no midwife to swicht her over)
damn they scrap me ,its take me 2 -3 years to recover,plus it was some apprenti who did the sowing,,scary


you should love you freaking nose,accept it,cheerish him!

[cookiepuss]

nose. That's it actually.

Maybe a boobie reduction.

But again, the knives scare the living crap out of me. They make me want to cry.

girl your nose is beautiful! leave it alone! ;)


(by the way, even I have been tempted to get a boob reduction. but I'm afraid they might mess em up. :( )

[cosmo105]

i used to hate my nose and want more than anything to get it changed so it looked "normal." now i kinda like it and i like the fact that i don't look like everybody else.

other than that...i just don't look in the mirror that often. i know what i look like, and i'm pretty happy with what i look like. i don't think changing myself would ever be worth the risks of surgery. and no matter what it is, it ALWAYS looks obvious.

i love watching plastic surgery shows though. it's a guilty pleasure. i don't know what the draw is. i guess it's like a train wreck when you see the person "after," all healed and looking like an alien.

[beastieangel01]

girl your nose is beautiful! leave it alone! ;)


(by the way, even I have been tempted to get a boob reduction. but I'm afraid they might mess em up. :( )

meh, I've had a long hate for my nose since I was really young. Thanks though! Just the truth.

And yeah, I too am afraid they might mess them up. I really, really dislike having large breasts. They are irritating. But I'll live. That and going to the gym more may make them smaller, so I'll try that first :p

[fucktopgirl]

i love watching plastic surgery shows though. it's a guilty pleasure. i don't know what the draw is. i guess it's like a train wreck when you see the person "after," all healed and looking like an alien.


:D definitely,they just dont look normal!
i just like the end,when you see before and after,well i also like when they are suffering and cannot do shit,that is pretty entertaining (y)

[beastiegirrl101]

yes, but would you really feel the need to change anything about yourself if our society wasn't so focused on physical appearance.

how natrual is our obsession with looks?

society=crap. People do things for other reasons aside form TV and magazines.

[fucktopgirl]

society=crap. People do things for other reasons aside form TV and magazines.

sorry but i think a lot of thoses preocupation(plastic surgery,beauty,smelling so good you have to put half a bottle of perfume everyday...and so on)
its due the massive publicity of it in t.v ,magazine .

i am shure if you chek some statistic,before the plastic show became popular and now,you will see a big increase in the phenomena!

[jabumbo]

i enjoyed the nip/tuck episode where the guy wanted to remove his lower leg to feel whole. it was quite enthralling

[fucktopgirl]

what?remove his lower legs to feel whole!
oh he already lost oneleg

[iceygirl]

i think its pretty natural to be concious of your own appearance


mirrors are fun

[fucktopgirl]

mirror are evil
in some you look good, in others you look like disfigurated

[ms.peachy]

Pfffft. I'm totally getting myelf new tits for my 40th. Vain? Maybe. But who cares. My life. You worry about your own tits, I'll worry about mine.

[iceygirl]

when they do boob lifts do they remove and reattatch the nipple for that too?

[ms.peachy]

It's my understanding that the nipple is not 'removed' but it is 'relocated'. There's an effort made to minimise nerve damage.

[iceygirl]

i dont really understand why they have to touch the nipple to do a lift


i could do it myself if i had the right tools

[ms.peachy]

i dont really understand why they have to touch the nipple to do a lift

because if they didn't, it wouldn't be in the middle anymore. You have to remember, lifting changes the shape of the breast. I don't really want to get to graphic, you'll just have to take it on faith that it's neccessary, or if you care about it enough, do a little research.

[iceygirl]

i understand your statement, but i also have my own idea on this

i cant research it because reading about the nipple being moved grosses me out too much

[fucktopgirl]

yea when they do your boob,they scavange tour breast and after you gona have scar,even tho they say that it will not show!and some dont have nomore nipple orgasm :eek: that is pretty bad,i would not chance it (n)

[ms.peachy]

Well, listen. Like I said, you worry about your tits, and I'll worry about mine.

[fucktopgirl]

dont worry,i dont give a shit if you mutilate your :D body

[kll]

one of the board members on here may schedule a butt implant if i don't give her the right feedback on friday.

[hardnox71]

What the hell is a face stretch?

[fucktopgirl]

face lift
then they pine your skin with stapple

[hardnox71]

Ouch.

[kleptomaniac]

just reading the name of the thread made me kinda queasy..

now after reading the whole thing, i can honestly say i'm VERY queasy!


10 minutes later...aw man there goes my lunch!

[ms.peachy]

dont worry,i dont give a shit if you mutilate your :D body
You don't know what you're talking about, girl.

[fucktopgirl]

yes i do

[ms.peachy]

yes i do
No, I don't think you do. In fact, I suspect running your mouth about things you don't know much about and making judgements without knowing all the facts is pretty much your modus operandi.

When you have walked a mile in my shoes, carried around boobs as big as mine for as long as I have, dealt with the neck aches, the sore back, the ill-fitting clothes, the limitations of physical exercise one can enjoy when carrying the extra weight on ones chest, then you can judge me. But until then, how's about you kiss my ass.

[zippo]

No, I don't think you do. In fact, I suspect running your mouth about things you don't know much about and making judgements without knowing all the facts is pretty much your modus operandi.

When you have walked a mile in my shoes, carried around boobs as big as mine for as long as I have, dealt with the neck aches, the sore back, the ill-fitting clothes, the limitations of physical exercise one can enjoy when carrying the extra weight on ones chest, then you can judge me. But until then, how's about you kiss my ass.

hey now, dont get out the nunchucks just yet peachy, she´s talking about people who get these surgerys for aesthetic reasons not for when you actually need them like you do, actually, this was obvious.

and actually, you led us to believe you wanted to do it for only aesthetic reasons when you described it as "vain", leaving the actual core of it hidden...almost as if you wanted to be taken as vain...anyways... :confused:

[CrankItUp!]

I love the Beavis and Butthead episode where they go to a cosmetic doctor thinking that he is gonna make their weiners bigger but what gets enlarged is their noses instead. :D

[fucktopgirl]

No, I don't think you do. In fact, I suspect running your mouth about things you don't know much about and making judgements without knowing all the facts is pretty much your modus operandi.

When you have walked a mile in my shoes, carried around boobs as big as mine for as long as I have, dealt with the neck aches, the sore back, the ill-fitting clothes, the limitations of physical exercise one can enjoy when carrying the extra weight on ones chest, then you can judge me. But until then, how's about you kiss my ass.


relax,,like zippo said i was talking about superficial surgery!i know what it is to have large breast,especially when you are pregnate>and its hell!
And i do believe that surgery ,it not the best solution,exercice and weightlifting work really good but...

anyway,i did not judge you,because i dont know you.i just replied to what i read!

by the way i dont want to kiss your ass! :D

[QueenAdrock]

nose. That's it actually.

Maybe a boobie reduction.

But again, the knives scare the living crap out of me. They make me want to cry.

Crystal, you have no reason to hate your nose. It's perfectly proportional to your face and if you hate it, it's all in your mind.

And don't get boobie reduction unless they hurt your back. I remember you were able to wear a tube top sans bra when I saw you (yeah that's right, I remember these things), and yet you're still busty, which is a very good size. I'd kill to wear strapless things, but I wouldn't get a reduction unless my back gets much worse.

[ms.peachy]

and actually, you led us to believe you wanted to do it for only aesthetic reasons when you described it as "vain", leaving the actual core of it hidden...almost as if you wanted to be taken as vain...anyways... :confused:

But part of it is certainly vanity. I have not intention of going into middle age as some dumpy frumpy frau with saggy torpedo tits who looks like a sack of potatoes. I have always been a stylish girl and I intend to keep being fabulous until I die. Possibly longer even. And if I decide it's what I want to do with my money and my life, I will have facelifts until my ears meet. And it won;t be anybody's business but mine.

My aunt, upon retiring at 60 from a long and distunguished career as a civil rights attorney, decided one day that the image looking back at her from the mirror didn't reflect the youth and vibrancy she felt inside. So she decided to have a face lift and get her boobs firmed up a bit. She now enjoys a great second career as a model and actress - most have you have probably seen her, without realising it. Oh and she's also an author and a radio show host. She got her facelift purely for reasons of vanity, what right do any of us have to judge that choice?

[ms.peachy]

anyway,i did not judge you,because i dont know you.i just replied to what i read!


Oh, you weren't judging? So what was that 'go ahead and mutilate your body' comment about then?

[ericlee]

hey be easy. She put this :D in her comment. It's the "can't you see it's sarcasm" indicater.

[ms.peachy]

hey be easy. She put this :D in her comment. It's the "can't you see it's sarcasm" indicater.
She does that kind of crap all the time. I believe it's her way of ensuring she doesn't have to take any responsibility for all of the silly twit bullshit she constantly cranks out. Watch for the pattern.

[like2_drink]

i can respect people getting reconstructive plastic surgery after a bad accident or something, but other then that they look phoney

[fucktopgirl]

Oh, you weren't judging? So what was that 'go ahead and mutilate your body' comment about then?


you just dont like me but at least some respect,i did not come join this board to make war!And when i said go ahead and mutilate your body,well that what i personely think plastic surgery is,its not relevant to you,its relevant to anybody who go do this.I think is almost self mutilation.that is my opinion.
i take fully responsability to everything i said,and if i want to put a sacastic face,well i guess i can! :D and my silly twit bullshit,man you are really nasty!

like i said you dont need to like me,but dont get cyco on me,i am here for good entertainement and fun so..

peace ostie

[ms.peachy]

and my silly twit bullshit,man you are really nasty!


Just calling it how I see it.

[fucktopgirl]

you just need to shit at somebody
hard to be pregnate!mood swing :D
well like i said you dont need to like me!
but i will respect you ,so respect me!

[ms.peachy]

Oh yes, you can easily just invalidate anything I might have to say by blaming it on a mood swing, it couldn't possibly have any truth to it, just some crazy hormone thing, no doubt.

[fucktopgirl]

yea no doubts
i have been trough it and some day just wanted to kill somebody :D
plus i am new so you can go on me like you want!

[beastiegirrl101]

Don't get cyco on me,peace ostie

come on Ms. Peachy...don't get "cyco" on her. ;)

[cookiepuss]

come on Ms. Peachy...don't get "cyco" on her. ;)
Oh fermer en haut. si elle tapait le français elle probablement donnerait un coup de pied votre âne.

[ms.peachy]

Oh fermer en haut. si elle tapait le français elle probablement donnerait un coup de pied votre âne.
But...just let's be a bit pedantic, why not... "psychopath" in Franch is, erm, "psychopathe", oui? It's not "cycopathe", non?

[cookiepuss]

But...just let's be a bit pedantic, why not... "psychopath" in Franch is, erm, "psychopathe", oui? It's not "cycopathe", non?

yeah, but I quite enjoy the way she messes things up. I think I'm the only one.

[beastiegirrl101]

yeah, but I quite enjoy the way she messes things up. I think I'm the only one.

not the only one. ;)

[fucktopgirl]

thank you girl
i will take that as a compliment,sort of

yea i should have said
"dont get psycho on me" :D

[alruggs]

one of the board members on here may schedule a butt implant if i don't give her the right feedback on friday.
I already have the consultation scheduled. I'm just waiting for your opinion. You ARE the expert.

[zippo]

But part of it is certainly vanity. I have not intention of going into middle age as some dumpy frumpy frau with saggy torpedo tits who looks like a sack of potatoes. I have always been a stylish girl and I intend to keep being fabulous until I die. Possibly longer even. And if I decide it's what I want to do with my money and my life, I will have facelifts until my ears meet. And it won;t be anybody's business but mine.

My aunt, upon retiring at 60 from a long and distunguished career as a civil rights attorney, decided one day that the image looking back at her from the mirror didn't reflect the youth and vibrancy she felt inside. So she decided to have a face lift and get her boobs firmed up a bit. She now enjoys a great second career as a model and actress - most have you have probably seen her, without realising it. Oh and she's also an author and a radio show host. She got her facelift purely for reasons of vanity, what right do any of us have to judge that choice?

i think you really like and enjoy being a woman, being a woman, being the most woman you can be. having men know youre a woman, noticing your woman flaws and noticing your woman strenghts, and having to deal with all the woman problems.

[fucktopgirl]

I already have the consultation scheduled. I'm just waiting for your opinion. You ARE the expert.

for real you gonna get a butt implant

pahahaha,its a jok?

[beastieangel01]

Crystal, you have no reason to hate your nose. It's perfectly proportional to your face and if you hate it, it's all in your mind.

And don't get boobie reduction unless they hurt your back. I remember you were able to wear a tube top sans bra when I saw you (yeah that's right, I remember these things), and yet you're still busty, which is a very good size. I'd kill to wear strapless things, but I wouldn't get a reduction unless my back gets much worse.

ha, thanks. The thing is I am pretty sure it was broken since I have this knot that neither of my parents have. Anyway, it drives me nuts.

And yeah they don't actually hurt my back, they are just irritating and in the way. And yeah, I hate bras. I should have been born back when they were burning them... :p no, I just was too lazy to get a strapless at the time :o

[ms.peachy]

i think you really like and enjoy being a woman, being a woman, being the most woman you can be. having men know youre a woman, noticing your woman flaws and noticing your woman strenghts, and having to deal with all the woman problems.
Well, duh.

Why wouldn't I want men to know I'm a woman? Is it meant to be a secret? :confused:

[little j]

I have two friends who are going to get breast augmentation. Not because they aren't already beautiful or to please anyone but themselves. My one friend, is getting a reduction, which makes her husband sad, but it will make her life so much easier. She cant buy bras in ordinary stores, she has to order them. Her back is in constant pain. My other friend has very nice sized breasts but one is smaller than the other one, and i've personally never noticed, but its something that really bothers her.

After I have children I will probably get a lift. My breasts are sized c/d now but they are nice and perky and i love them. i know that when i get older they will start to sag so i've already decided that i want the procedure to keep them perky.


p.s. since when is a little vanity a bad thing? people should love their bodies and love themselves and ihaving plastic surgery to change or maintain your body is a wonderful medical advancement.

[miss soul fire]

When you have some kind of disease or if you have been through an accident, I support the plastic surgery, meaning I would do it if some of these things happened to me, like my leg, for example, my leg has a lump that, according to the last doctor who checked it, it's fat, how weird, huh?! There's a name for that. I don't know it in English, anyway, it's very ugly and I can't wear skirts (which I love to wear) and apparently the solution is a liposuction. I've never wanted to do it, but I'm considdering it. Plus, I'm not sure if it's healthy to leave it there, espacially because it hurts.

Anyway, other than that I don't know. Personally, I think some of those plastic surgeries make the people look worse, like for example, breast implants, in my humble opinion, I don't like them because it looks like the person is an android to me, I don't like it all. But like little j said, whenever I get old, I would lift my breasts if they were on my knees, definitely, simply due to the fact that they would look totally disproportionate to the rest of my body. I wanna look human, but at the same time I don't wanna look like everyone else, do you know what I mean?! I don't wanna follow the rules of beauty, I just wanna look normal, so I feel normal around people, which it doesn't mean that I need to have big breasts or a small nose or anything like that.

When I think of people whon do pastic surgeries simply because they wanna follow the rules of beauty, well that bugs me, because it's not the way you were born, you know. I mean, there are lots of ways to improve yourself and I support that, but natural ways as losing weight healthy, taking a good care of your hair and things like that. It's like nearly everyone would turn very beautiful with lots of implants and nose jobs and any kind of plastic surgeries made with such a purpose of looking like celebrities. It's like "oh, anyone can do it". Where's the merit of being just you? i don't think I made myself clear, but alas.:D

[fucktopgirl]

After I have children I will probably get a lift. My breasts are sized c/d now but they are nice and perky and i love them. i know that when i get older they will start to sag so i've already decided that i want the procedure to keep them perky.


p.s. since when is a little vanity a bad thing? people should love their bodies and love themselves and ihaving plastic surgery to change or maintain your body is a wonderful medical advancement.

i have a child,and my breast are still perky and hot! :D
vanity is a bad seed,does not help the world to be a better place but to be more ego and superficial.

[ms.peachy]

i have a child,and my breast are still perky and hot!
Yeah but you're like what, 25?

Get back to me on this in 15 years.

[fucktopgirl]

nop i am a little bit older!
its all about exercice

[ms.peachy]

Right. Gravity will never have its effects on you, no way!

I so wish I could reach into the future right now.

[fucktopgirl]

well :D gravity gona get trough me but i try to put is nasty effect for later !

well at 80 maybe they gona be a little bit euh,,low,hehe
i might think about plastic sugery at that moment! (y)

[beastieangel01]

oh yeah, I forgot to mention, having kids is another reason why I want a reduction. Although maybe I should wait until after I have them.

A friend of mine just had a child, and she went from a B to a D.

I AM a D, right now. If I move up in size that much, I'm going to want to hurt someone. I can barely handle D's. It really is a comfort issue in this case.

[fucktopgirl]

well when you get pregnate they grow bigger but after they came back to what they where.anyway if you want to mutilate your breast do it after the child because if you want to breast feed the baby,if you want everything to work find,properly.do it after!

[ms.peachy]

oh yeah, I forgot to mention, having kids is another reason why I want a reduction. Although maybe I should wait until after I have them.

This is the only reason I haven't done it before now.

But now... Hurrah! I figre I'll be 37 when Bean is born, so by the time 40 rolls around I'll be well done with breastfeeding, Bean will be old enough to go stay with Grandma for a little while, and bingo bango Mom gets her new, zippy, perky boobs (y)

It's a win-win for everybody :)

[voltanapricot]

i used to hate my nose and want more than anything to get it changed so it looked "normal."
Yeah, I never used to like mine, it's not huge or anything, but I had always wanted a petite noggle. Then I figured it'd look a bit odd conisdering I've got big features on my unique face.

Plastic surgery addicts look way out of proportion in most cases, and that ain't beautiful nor is it worth it.

[FearandLoathing]

i have a child,and my breast are still perky and hot! :D

vanity is a bad seed,does not help the world to be a better place but to be more ego and superficial.

Funny.

[fucktopgirl]

this thread is stupid.


when you are stupid,everything is stupid
et vlan dans les dents

[zippo]

Funny.

actually, whats funny is that you find a contradiction in there
liking a part of your body doesnt equate vanity

[zippo]

when you are stupid,everything is stupid


HAHAHA
oh cmon, that was at least a 7/10, skye

[fucktopgirl]

i might have got you :D

[fucktopgirl]

actually, whats funny is that you find a contradiction in there
liking a part of your body doesnt equate vanity

plus those 2 quote are out of their context

[FearandLoathing]

actually, whats funny is that you find a contradiction in there
liking a part of your body doesnt equate vanity

That means getting plastic surgery so that you will like a part of your body doesn't equate with vanity, either.

[fucktopgirl]

its not my fault you have less brains cells to process humor
pahahaha

[ms.peachy]

liking a part of your body doesnt equate vanity
So, wait...

If liking your body doesn't equate to vanity, then how come choosing to change something about your body to have it as you like does?

[fucktopgirl]

liking your body as is,accepting it=healthy

changing with surgery=vanity or too much self concern

[ms.peachy]

liking your body as is,accepting it=healthy

changing with surgery=vanity or too much self concern

I see. So no one should get laser eye surgery because they don't want to wear glasses, they should just accept their shitty eyesight and get on with it.

And no one should wear makeup, or shave, or get their hair done either, because all that stuff, that's just vanity.

Oh or wear stylish clothes. What's the point of that? It's just vanity.

I mean, just because we live in a modern world, where we have options available, that doesn't mean we should exercise our right to choose them. Only superficial people would do that.

[fucktopgirl]

but we are not talking about eyes sight

surgery for medical attention is different

but changing your nose or boob just because.. that is vanity

yes we live in a society full of vanity and superficial.

but you can make choice
make up suck

[ms.peachy]

but we are not talking about eyes sight

surgery for medical attention is different


But those people could jsut as well wear glasses with no adverse health effects, right? The only reason to have surgery is for vanity then, isn't it?

See here's the thing that's really bugging me about this: you have this idea that surgery = bad, and that it's only something a very narrow band of people do, and the only reason that people would do it is because they are unhappy as people. Whereas in fact, they may very well be lovely, lively, well adjusted people who happen to have somehting about their physical selves that they would like to change. Why should people not feel empowered to make changes in their lives? Why should they have to just 'accept' themselves, because you wouldn't make the same choice?

[fucktopgirl]

But those people could jsut as well wear glasses with no adverse health effects, right? The only reason to have surgery is for vanity then, isn't it?

See here's the thing that's really bugging me about this: you have this idea that surgery = bad, and that it's only something a very narrow band of people do, and the only reason that people would do it is because they are unhappy as people. Whereas in fact, they may very well be lovely, lively, well adjusted people who happen to have somehting about their physical selves that they would like to change. Why should people not feel empowered to make changes in their lives? Why should they have to just 'accept' themselves, because you wouldn't make the same choice?

well i guess its obvious what my stand is on plactic surgery.i think its vain and stupid(when its not related to medical problem)
And of course its a personnal choice!

people who get surgery are lazy and unhappy,otherwise they would do thoses things.just accept you freaking self and keep your money to do a travel!i dunno.if they where "well adjusted"they would think about others to do in their life then getting watermelon size boob,or micheal jackson nose!

micheal jackson is the king of plastic surgery,he is freaking scary! :eek:
and he wanted to feel better about himself,2000 surgery later ,the guy need to go in mental health institution


example of "lazy"
its like thoses fat people who get liposuction,command just get up and go run aroung the block.no they go for surgery,after still they eat the same
shit,,

yes people could feel empowered about themselve,but i dont think that going under the knife is empowering but hey everybopdy their own trill in life ,i guess.

[ms.peachy]

I think your opinion is very narrow-minded and judgemental.

You can't exercise off a large or misshapen nose, you know. Why should someone who is otherwise quite content with their lives be considered "stupid" because they take steps to make themselves happier with their looks?

Oh well, why am I bothering to argue with someone as super-well-adjusted and helathy as you. I wish I could be so perfect, so I could sit in judgement of other people's personal choices too, even if I don't even know them.

[zippo]

to fear and loathing and ms.peachy...

in my opinion, plastic surgery should only be used to give you something you dont have, like a proper functioning part of your body. plastic surgery for sole "beauty" reasons is unnecesary to me, although you could say that the malfunctioning "part" of the "body" in those cases is proper self esteem.

i dont know why youre (mspeachy) comparing it to things like contact lenses and fashion, when a contact lens doesnt involve the risks surgerys do, i suppose we could also say the same thing for taking interest in the fabrics you put on your body.

im not demanding anything from anyone, im stating my opinion. i, think less of people who get plastic surgerys for aesthetic reasons.

[zippo]

Why should they have to just 'accept' themselves...

they shouldnt, this requires strength and not all people are strong

theres 190 pound women or crooked nosed victims who carry themselves with more confidence and carefree attitudes than the most beautiful, skinniest women out there. and youll still see the second batch considering surgerys. its about strenght, self esteem. some people have it, regardless of what they were born with, and some people dont.

[fucktopgirl]

zippo,i like your vision on the matter (y)

[ms.peachy]

i dont know why youre (mspeachy) comparing it to things like contact lenses and fashion, when a contact lens doesnt involve the risks surgerys do, i suppose we could also say the same thing for taking interest in the fabrics you put on your body.

im not demanding anything from anyone, im stating my opinion. i, think less of people who get plastic surgerys for aesthetic reasons.

I didn't say anything about contact lenses, I said laser eye surgery. The comparison with fashio was meant to address this idea that no one apparently should ever have any vanity, of feel the need/desire to look nice, etc. I mean, if we just are supposed to accept ourselves 'naturally', then I guess we can all just give up any kind of grooming that isn't absolutely essential to hygiene, right?

I just think it's really sad that you would presume to think less of a person for making a harmless choice about what to do with their own body, and presume that somehow this person is simply 'not strong' and therefore less worthy of respect. Yes there are some risks associated with surgery but hey, there are risks with everything in life and it is a decision that is up to the individual. It seems incredibly small-minded to me that you - and fuckeduphead - label everyone who elects to make this type of change with words like "weak" "stupid" and "lazy".

[zippo]

I didn't say anything about contact lenses, I said laser eye surgery. The comparison with fashio was meant to address this idea that no one apparently should ever have any vanity, of feel the need/desire to look nice, etc. I mean, if we just are supposed to accept ourselves 'naturally', then I guess we can all just give up any kind of grooming that isn't absolutely essential to hygiene, right?

I just think it's really sad that you would presume to think less of a person for making a harmless choice about what to do with their own body, and presume that somehow this person is simply 'not strong' and therefore less worthy of respect. Yes there are some risks associated with surgery but hey, there are risks with everything in life and it is a decision that is up to the individual. It seems incredibly small-minded to me that you - and fuckeduphead - label everyone who elects to make this type of change with words like "weak" "stupid" and "lazy".

oops sorry, youre right, you didnt say contact lenses, i shouldve quoted instead of remembered. eye surgery it is: and i think its once again not comparable to aesthetic surgery, because, if you may choose to have eye surgery instead of getting glasses/contacts, the main reason youre doing it is still because of a necessity, not the same reasons one would get, say, a nose job.

anyways, like i said, i cant force myself to place harmless things like makeup or fashion on the same level as these types of surgerys. i cant help to think less of a person who thinks they need these types of surgerys so they can be more satisfied or happier. i cant.

anyways, i mean, you know, to each his own.