View Full Version : FUCKING FINALLY! People are starting to get with it...
Qdrop
11-10-2005, 01:17 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/10/jordan.blasts/index.html
"Three terror bombings that killed at least 56 people at three hotels in Jordan's capital sparked furious protests against al Qaeda today after a Web site carried a claim that the group was behind the attacks. The Associated Press reported that hundreds of angry Jordanians rallied in Amman shouting, "Burn in hell, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi!"
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bought fuckin time they blamed the terrorists instead sympathizing with them and just blaming America/western world.
THAT is how you begin to defeat terrorism....
D_Raay
11-10-2005, 01:33 PM
Al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility for the bombings in a Web site posting, and linked them to its Islamist beliefs.
CNN cannot verify the authenticity of the Web site claims, but U.S. intelligence officials said they "view that claim as credible."
Qdrop
11-10-2005, 01:36 PM
oh i see...
so america probably bombed it...and blamed it on Al Queda.
conspiracy.
or some other terrorist group did it....and america used the oppurtunity to blame Al Queada.
yeah, never mind.
Al Queda is cool with me....
they're just misunderstood.
fucktopgirl
11-10-2005, 01:59 PM
osaama benladen was a cia agent for the usa before coming in charge of the alqueda movement,does it?
usa are part of a huge conspiracy,call me parano but..
there is a real errosrist movement but the usa shure no how to manipulate the situation at their advantages!
Ace42X
11-10-2005, 02:33 PM
oh i see...
so america probably bombed it...and blamed it on Al Queda.
conspiracy..
Wouldn't be the first time. Didn't you catch the news of those yanks wearing wigs that were planting car-bombs in Iraq, got spotted by the yokels and pulled by your soldiers?
K-nowledge
11-10-2005, 03:00 PM
Yeh, it's good to see a middle eastern coutry's citizens rise up against Al Qaeda.
Conspiracy!?! Come on!
Qdrop
11-10-2005, 03:12 PM
Wouldn't be the first time. Didn't you catch the news of those yanks wearing wigs that were planting car-bombs in Iraq, got spotted by the yokels and pulled by your soldiers?
actually, no.
please divulge....
Ace42X
11-10-2005, 03:17 PM
actually, no.
please divulge....
Can't remember which paper I read it in, but it was reported after the British soldiers got busted out of that Iraqi jail. Two blatantly foreign men were seen acting suspiciously around parked cars by a bunch of Iraqi civillians and some police, they were discovered to have explosives and were just about to get mobbed when a hummer rolls up out of nowhere, the two guys jump in covered by a squad of US troops, and ZOOM, off they go into the big blue yonder. There was some fuss over it.
Qdrop
11-10-2005, 03:20 PM
Can't remember which paper I read it in, but it was reported after the British soldiers got busted out of that Iraqi jail. Two blatantly foreign men were seen acting suspiciously around parked cars by a bunch of Iraqi civillians and some police, they were discovered to have explosives and were just about to get mobbed when a hummer rolls up out of nowhere, the two guys jump in covered by a squad of US troops, and ZOOM, off they go into the big blue yonder. There was some fuss over it.
without a source...it's just internet heresy...
Ace42X
11-10-2005, 03:22 PM
without a source...it's just internet heresy...
I'm guessing it was the Guardian, but it was mentioned on the beeb too I think. I put it down to a misunderstanding or scaremongering, but without the usual handwringing, etc it seemed to get brushed under the carpet rather too neatly. Usually we get some big denials and rhetoric from the usual faces.
D_Raay
11-10-2005, 04:37 PM
oh i see...
so america probably bombed it...and blamed it on Al Queda.
conspiracy.
or some other terrorist group did it....and america used the oppurtunity to blame Al Queada.
yeah, never mind.
Al Queda is cool with me....
they're just misunderstood.
If the shoe fits...
DroppinScience
11-10-2005, 04:53 PM
bought fuckin time they blamed the terrorists instead sympathizing with them and just blaming America/western world.
THAT is how you begin to defeat terrorism....
I agree. While the West has its role of wrongdoing, people seem to forget that it's a two-way street when it comes to this sort of thing. The Middle East also needs to clean house.
D_Raay
11-10-2005, 04:56 PM
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml
A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."
The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”
The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.
GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.
D_Raay
11-10-2005, 05:00 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/643691.html
A number of Israelis staying yesterday at the Radisson SAS were evacuated before the bombing by Jordanian security forces, apparently due to a specific security alert. They were escorted back to Israel by security personnel.
The Foreign Ministry stated yesterday that no Israeli tourists are known to have been injured in the blasts. Representatives of Israel's embassy in Amman were I contact with local authorities to examine any report of injured Israelis, but none were received. There are often a number of Israeli businessman and tourists in Amman, including in the hotels hit yesterday.
DroppinScience
11-10-2005, 05:08 PM
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml
A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."
The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”
The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.
GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.
I dunno. Be it an actual terrorist attack or a staged one (as you seem to be alluding to) could backfire. I mean, Hurricane Katrina was just as bad as a terrorist attack and his "leadership" floundered there.
franscar
11-10-2005, 05:14 PM
Katrina made him look like a bumbling, incompetent, idiotic fool though.
racer5.0stang
11-10-2005, 05:16 PM
I dunno. Be it an actual terrorist attack or a staged one (as you seem to be alluding to) could backfire. I mean, Hurricane Katrina was just as bad as a terrorist attack and his "leadership" floundered there.
That wasn't Bush who dropped the ball with that incedent.
That was the local officials.
Apparently, they are no smarter than the people who put them in office.
fucktopgirl
11-10-2005, 06:40 PM
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml
A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."
The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”
The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.
GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.
yes , they are fucking insane!they dont care about their citizen at all!
Lizard_Micky
11-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Qdrop is right on the money. Why is it so farfetched that Muslims would be pissed off that terrorists are blowing themselves up in Jordan? Why would there be a conspiracy? What is your problem, exactly? I had no idea members of Al Qaeda listen to the Beastie Boys and make posts to their website. If Al Qaeda listens to the Beastie Boys, what would be their favorite song? Maybe Intergalactic? Boomin Granny? I dunno-tough call.
K-nowledge
11-10-2005, 08:47 PM
^ Body Blowin' er Movin'
DroppinScience
11-10-2005, 09:29 PM
That wasn't Bush who dropped the ball with that incedent.
That was the local officials.
Apparently, they are no smarter than the people who put them in office.
There's blame to go around within all levels of government. But the federal govt. screwed up the worst.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml
A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."
The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”
The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.
GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.Notice the inverse correlation between the president's good fortune and everyone else's.
9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to him. Not quite so nice for the 3000 who perished and their families.
Another attack is just what he needs... it can't be far away.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/643691.htmlSame thing happened before the London bombing and 9/11.
D_Raay
11-11-2005, 03:06 AM
Qdrop is right on the money. Why is it so farfetched that Muslims would be pissed off that terrorists are blowing themselves up in Jordan? Why would there be a conspiracy? What is your problem, exactly? I had no idea members of Al Qaeda listen to the Beastie Boys and make posts to their website. If Al Qaeda listens to the Beastie Boys, what would be their favorite song? Maybe Intergalactic? Boomin Granny? I dunno-tough call.
Ha! Ok so truth seekers are now Al Qaeda members? If you believe everything you see and hear in the mainstream media you are in for a life of ignorant bliss.
I kind of admire that actually, but some of us have to be capable of critical thinking so that dopes like you won't be killed.
D_Raay
11-11-2005, 03:08 AM
I dunno. Be it an actual terrorist attack or a staged one (as you seem to be alluding to) could backfire. I mean, Hurricane Katrina was just as bad as a terrorist attack and his "leadership" floundered there.
I appreciate your level head Droppin, but I could make quite a case for 9/11 being a staged attack.
D_Raay
11-11-2005, 03:10 AM
That wasn't Bush who dropped the ball with that incedent.
That was the local officials.
Apparently, they are no smarter than the people who put them in office.
Not trying to pick on you racer, but it makes you look a bit dumb to tow the GOP line. Everyone knows there was fault all the way up to the top.
Qdrop
11-11-2005, 09:43 AM
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml
A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."
The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”
The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.
GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.
so "closely-guarded"... that here it is...on a Beastie Boys website.
uh huh.
fucktopgirl
11-11-2005, 10:20 AM
well they are intern source who divulgue the little secrets from thoses fucker!
they all part of secret society like illuminati,"freere macon"gatherirng togetehr and plan their next plan.call me parano,its a conspiracy !they just want to make $,so every way they find,they will act upon it.We all know war is the way to grow rich so...provocing one is the way to go
Ace42X
11-11-2005, 03:27 PM
so "closely-guarded"... that here it is...on a Beastie Boys website.
Many operatives died to bring us the plans of this FULLY OPERATIONAL battlestation.
Qdrop
11-11-2005, 03:32 PM
Many operatives died to bring us the plans of this FULLY OPERATIONAL battlestation.
I salute them all!
sam i am
11-14-2005, 01:26 PM
I salute them all!
Me too.
BTW, ace, nice Star Wars reference. Guess George Lucas is an OK capitalist in your book, eh?
Anyhow, as for the staging of all these incidents.....
D_Raay and ali, how can you explain that a bombing in JORDAN would help Bush in the US? If no attacks take place before next November's elections, will you admit that you were incorrect in your conspiracy assertions?
D_Raay
11-14-2005, 03:37 PM
Me too.
BTW, ace, nice Star Wars reference. Guess George Lucas is an OK capitalist in your book, eh?
Anyhow, as for the staging of all these incidents.....
D_Raay and ali, how can you explain that a bombing in JORDAN would help Bush in the US? If no attacks take place before next November's elections, will you admit that you were incorrect in your conspiracy assertions?
It is a reminder that we should be afraid. People who are afraid are much more manageable. The timing of such incidents cannot be ignored or made off as simple coincidences.
The latest polls show the public would rather have democratic leadership now, although confidence in both parties is exceptionally low.
The time is now for a viable alternative to these two parties.
sam i am
11-14-2005, 04:13 PM
It is a reminder that we should be afraid. People who are afraid are much more manageable. The timing of such incidents cannot be ignored or made off as simple coincidences.
The latest polls show the public would rather have democratic leadership now, although confidence in both parties is exceptionally low.
The time is now for a viable alternative to these two parties.
Fair enough. What's the "viable alternative" that can actually accomplish anything in the next few years?
D_Raay
11-15-2005, 02:53 AM
Fair enough. What's the "viable alternative" that can actually accomplish anything in the next few years?
I don't know, but surely it isn't the elephants or the donkeys.
Maybe we should work together to try to figure that out.
It is a reminder that we should be afraid. People who are afraid are much more manageable. The timing of such incidents cannot be ignored or made off as simple coincidences.The US has been ruled by fear ever since Bush "won" (http://www.sonofbush.com/) in 2000.
It's worked a treat.
sam i am
11-15-2005, 06:11 PM
I don't know, but surely it isn't the elephants or the donkeys.
Maybe we should work together to try to figure that out.
OK. Let's....
Flat tax or National Sales Tax?
Continuance of Roe v. Wade or leave it to the states?
Increased or decreased military budget?
Slashing of the Federal bureaucracy, even if it leads to a sharp (albeit temporary) uptick in unemployment?
Demolition of Federal departments (starting with HHS) and going from there?
These are just the start of the issues.. The real debate comes down to the vision of the country for the future and what we all want. That debate has multiple sides and warring factions all pushing for their agendas. There IS no "common-sense" middle ground when passions are inflamed and we are so disparate in our beliefs.
One side HAS to be the winner and the other side the "loser" for awhile....then it will shift back, most likely.....
D_Raay
11-16-2005, 03:46 AM
OK. Let's....
Flat tax or National Sales Tax?
Continuance of Roe v. Wade or leave it to the states?
Increased or decreased military budget?
Slashing of the Federal bureaucracy, even if it leads to a sharp (albeit temporary) uptick in unemployment?
Demolition of Federal departments (starting with HHS) and going from there?
These are just the start of the issues.. The real debate comes down to the vision of the country for the future and what we all want. That debate has multiple sides and warring factions all pushing for their agendas. There IS no "common-sense" middle ground when passions are inflamed and we are so disparate in our beliefs.
One side HAS to be the winner and the other side the "loser" for awhile....then it will shift back, most likely.....
No they don't. We have progressed to a point where we can't tread water anymore. There are just too many stupid people frankly. Best is to just leave well enough alone and worry about our own interests.
We cannot abide by future actions solely deemed fit by the greedy hungry few that are supposed to be in our best interests.
sam i am
11-16-2005, 05:24 PM
There are just too many stupid people frankly.
Truer words have rarely been spoken.
Preach on, brother!
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