Ex peruvian Pres.Fujimori wanted for human rights violations during terrorist attacks

[zippo]

hes been caught in Chile last week, and is now under their power, the Peruvian government is now asking for him to be extradited over there where he would be sentenced to around 30 years of jail. He commanded numerous assasinations of terrorists caught in universities, jails and at the famous hostage situation at the Embassy of Japan during the 90´s, he also dissolved the cameras (english?) in the govt. so he could have faster and easier control over the proceedings of the terrorists arrests during those years, among other things.

In the name of the country and its people, Fujimori set out to destroy terrorism and then gets spit in the face in the end. Im not saying im for punishment by death necessarily, but when the enemy is going to do it if you dont, i start to doubt. These people (anti-Fujimoristas) are defending murderers themselves, and its not just the terrorists families, its people speaking in the name of human rights. Do cold blooded terrorists deserve to have the same human rights as we do? Sometimes i think they do and sometimes i think they dont.

They say they could have been caught and then thrown into jail, and not have been killed, and that the numerous tortures the military officials performed on them were also a violation of human rights. But how are you supposed to cooperate with these people otherwise? no, im not saying i believe its ok to use torturing as a mechanism, but, the men that go to and do these terrorist missions have to be somewhat "crazy", reach a certain "superhuman" level to be able to do the thigns they do. and i think part of that is going to lead to them doing things like tortures. which IMO is wrong, but, its sort of what comes with training men for terrorist missions, you need monsters to deal with terrorism and with monsters come these inevitable violent side effects.

Theres even a whole Comission for this. I dont know...would you defend the terrorists lives like this?

[BionicEye]

Wasn't he involved in stealing huge amounts of money and rampant economic curruption?

Didnt he flee to Japan when his time was up as President?

[zippo]

Wasn't he involved in stealing huge amounts of money and rampant economic curruption?

Didnt he flee to Japan when his time was up as President?

yea, he was also supposedly involved (but not yet trialed therefore not proven) for bribing alot of government and military officials along with the infamous Montesinos. Thats another subject though, im referring to the human rights/terrorist deal.

[fucktopgirl]

if i read correct the president of peru was a japonese :confused:

[zippo]

he has double nationality, Japanese-Peruvian (also a whole other subject, hehe)

[EN[i]GMA]

I know very little about him, but I found this story intriguing.

Didn't he go from being a nameless farmer to president in short order?

[zippo]

sorry enigma, im not really sure but theres probably millions of websites about his biography

[BionicEye]

he has double nationality, Japanese-Peruvian (also a whole other subject, hehe)

if i read correct the president of peru was a japonese :confused:


I think there're a lot of Peruvians of Japanese descent. Kinda like all the micks in Riverdale, Bronx.

[zippo]

peru has alot of racial mixes in its people, yup

[BionicEye]

Theres even a whole Comission for this. I dont know...would you defend the terrorists lives like this?



to answer your question... no. chop their testicles off and make them eat scrotum soup. fuck rights for terrorists.

[Ali]

fuck rights for terrorists.Yeah, proven guilty in a court of law, or simply accused by the government.

Why bother with jail? just kill anybody who you believe to be a terrorist, as soon as you see them. Maybe torture them first, find out who their friends are and go get them, too.

Fucking kill anyone who disagrees with the government, that's how it all starts, you know?

[BionicEye]

Yeah, proven guilty in a court of law, or simply accused by the government.

Why bother with jail? just kill anybody who you believe to be a terrorist, as soon as you see them. Maybe torture them first, find out who their friends are and go get them, too.

Fucking kill anyone who disagrees with the government, that's how it all starts, you know?



You've got the idea!


seriously though, i think they should be getting this fucker ex-president of peru FUJIMORI for every penny his sushi ass took from the people who need it in that country. just shank his geeky-ass.

[zippo]

Yeah, proven guilty in a court of law, or simply accused by the government.

Why bother with jail? just kill anybody who you believe to be a terrorist, as soon as you see them. Maybe torture them first, find out who their friends are and go get them, too.

Fucking kill anyone who disagrees with the government, that's how it all starts, you know?



well, yea, that was their modus operandi, thats how it was for Peru, and other countries involved in similar situations like Uruguay, Argentina, and Chile. There are endless national debates between the one side that defends the rights of the initial victims, and then the leftist human rights defenders of the terrorists. These are never ending.





And...i believe in human rights but I dont believe in a whole part of a country protesting and using their energy for the defense of what were assasins to begin with. Seeing students and the everyday Joe euphoric over the rights of killers. Again, I dont believe in tortures and death penalty but what about the initial victims of terrorism and their defenders protesting out in the street, in front of the embassys? Little times does a country come so together as they have (are) in the name of assasins. Why?

Just things i see around me that make me think. Im not really proposing a specific conclusion or idea but more asking a question to get me to a next one. thinking out loud on how situations turn out, gawking at one of Irony´s greatest works of art.

[paulb]

Hey, dont be hatin on Fujimori, i have met him and taken a tour through his palace. I hope he gets off scott free, and i hope he becomes president again soon.

[zippo]

theres a whole political group wanting and working for Fujimori to become a candidate for president, so wipe off that sarcasm and sit up straight, soldier.





no limits. we know he had no limits when he proceeded to cross the various lines. but i wonder when and why exactly he decided to take the shortcut and not the long road. pressure from the masses? ofcourse, everybody was fearing for their lives, that sure was part of it. and now, those same masses have changed, as did the governments way of dealing with things before terrorism existed. as did the traits of the military officials when they would first be assigned to a terrorist commission. Fujimori, the officials,society, they all changed, yes, but lets not forget the reason, the original first cause of this: terrorist attacks. a simple concept that seems to be lost within the papers of the "Commission of the Truth" (organization after the terrorist killing protagonists).

i guess my point is, i would speak as a witness if i were to be present in an anti-terrorist assasination but i wouldnt walk in the streets protesting against its cruelty. im surprised by a line that is not drawn by many.

and im not fully defending fujimori and the like, because they just as well, commited killings, but its what they were led to do after no other mechanism such as spying and questioning worked. and it also was as a means of protection of society and self defense, not as a means of imposing their ideologies on others.

the one thing they both do have in common is not having the capacity of limiting their actions. therefore, i am for their trials, for their accusations, just not for the peoples euphoria, the energy, the unity.