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Subculture
11-14-2005, 11:46 AM
Ok I know everyone hates on people who hate on people u love (if that makes any sense). But despite all the Beastie bashing I think 3rd bass was dope. the Cactus album was a classic i still bang that, and I think this group was under rated and under appreciated. Anyone agree.
Subculture
11-14-2005, 11:49 AM
Yes...
Dust to Dust was a gem maaaaaaaaaad slept on. I re purchased that album in the 99cents bin. (y)
mickill
11-14-2005, 12:26 PM
Yeah, Dust To Dust was pretty slept on at the time. It hasn't aged remarkably from a vocal standpoint, but I still think the beats are cool.
I think that Derelicts Of Dialect was a lot better than The Cactus Album.
buddmonkey
11-14-2005, 02:32 PM
I agree... I mean feuds are feuds, but it wouldn't be hip-hop if there wernt a feud now and again.... I really loved "derilects".... I had to buy that album more than once.....
So Ruff
11-14-2005, 02:39 PM
I've heard plenty of The Cactus Album, but I'd be lying if I said I've heard more than Pop Goes the Weasel off Derelicts of Dialect.
What tracks do you folks recommend I check out off that album?
cj hood
11-14-2005, 03:51 PM
my boy just interviewd Pete Nice....he's up in Cooperstown doing a lot of baseball stuff.....he just wrote another book about bball....
Extra Cheese
11-14-2005, 03:58 PM
my boy just interviewd Pete Nice....he's up in Cooperstown doing a lot of baseball stuff.....he just wrote another book about bball....
i saw his first book. there was hardly any writing to it. that shit was pictures with captions. i went to one of the tours of greenwood cemetary here in the motherland of Brooklyn that he gave in support of the first book. He basically went around to the graves of old players and spoke on it for a few minutes. He was cool dude
cj hood
11-14-2005, 04:04 PM
i saw his first book. there was hardly any writing to it. that shit was pictures with captions. i went to one of the tours of greenwood cemetary here in the motherland of Brooklyn that he gave in support of the first book. He basically went around to the graves of old players and spoke on it for a few minutes. He was cool dude
was he sportin' the cane?
Subculture
11-14-2005, 04:09 PM
^
damn!
Exactly what I was gonna ask lol.
Extra Cheese
11-14-2005, 04:14 PM
was he sportin' the cane?
lol, he didnt have the cane but he had a long ass umbrella.
Videodrome
11-14-2005, 08:27 PM
derelicts of dialect is probably one of my favorite albums ever. i have bought it at least 5 times.
ms.peachy
11-15-2005, 07:45 AM
Sometimes this place creeps me out.
Just last night I was looking for some music to put on while I made dinner and I said, "Oh, 3rd Bass, haven't listened to this for yonks" and put it on.
And then, now, this thread appears.
GET OUT OF MY BRAIN, people!
Subculture
11-15-2005, 08:32 AM
Sometimes this place creeps me out.
Just last night I was looking for some music to put on while I made dinner and I said, "Oh, 3rd Bass, haven't listened to this for yonks" and put it on.
And then, now, this thread appears.
GET OUT OF MY BRAIN, people!
:D :D
CrazyEddie
11-15-2005, 10:17 AM
3rd Bass is like a quiet kept secret of Rap, what the youngens now call Hip Hop.
It's like a lot of folks are afraid to admit they liked them but the fact is even through the late 90's Product of The Environment 12" was still high on alot of DJ lists.
That album is really amazing and it's funny - for dissing the Beastie Boys they actually sample them on Steppin to the AM: using "What the Time"... which is MCA on "Time to Get Ill".
I was watching a video of 3rd Bass and I forget which video but they are in a train yard and at the end they show a guy laying on the floor of a beat up train car with the No Sleep till Brooklyn/She's Crafty 12" on the guys head.
3rd Bass was real royalty of Rap at the time I mean they were real down with all the folks that were respected KMD / MF Doom. But they had Def Jam backing them and that's all a group needed at that time but they even had more backing.
You hear Russell Simmons and Serch talking when they are chatting about the name of 3rd Bass on Product. But the Native tongues, BDP Stretch & Bobbito, EPMD, Public Enemy everybody was down with them.
And at the time it was when the B-Boys were sort of pushed to the side. But if it wasn't for the Beastie Boys Russell Simmons woould not have taken a shot at putting Pete Nice & Serch together.
Serch was a freestyler who was in a lot of contests and faired quite well, Pete Nice an English major, headed up the Hip Hop show with Bobbito at Columbia University. And Richie Rich was a really good DJ who won DJ contests so 3rd Bass had a pedigree to them.
But when the rap game changed and Afrocentric views went out the window and amore G-Funk, Ganster Rap and more Alternative Rap came in 3rd Bass split up.
You could see the change when on Product they are talking negative about drugs then the next LP they are talking about puffing on Herbals.Which was not new at the time look at Dr. Dre , he was the worst -
Doc Dre on NWA's " Express Yourself "=
I still express, yo, I don't smoke weed or sess
Cause it's known to give a brother brain damage
And brain damage on the mic don't manage - NUTHIN
but makin a sucka and you equal
Don't be another sequel.. {Express yourself!}
Then next thing you knw he's dropping an LP called The Chronic.
Oh by the way any of you guys here on the first single dropped from that album "N*g^a witta gun" uses the same sample as the B-Boys Pass The Mic single.
Extra Cheese
11-15-2005, 11:10 AM
But when the rap game changed and Afrocentric views went out the window and amore G-Funk, Ganster Rap and more Alternative Rap came in 3rd Bass split up.
You could see the change when on Product they are talking negative about drugs then the next LP they are talking about puffing on Herbals.Which was not new at the time look at Dr. Dre , he was the worst -
3rd bass breaking up had nothing to do with the rap scene changing.
and when on the 2nd album are they talking about smoking weed? if they did talk about it it was probably just one line here and there. it wasnt a big part of the record.
Subculture
11-15-2005, 12:20 PM
I think I got my 3rd bass history lesson for the day.
But I believe that 3rd bas breaking up had something to do with them taking so damn long to drop Dust to Dust because of sample clearing. People lost intrest in them which is easy to do in hip hop because ever dude on the corner rhymes. I think changing tastes in hip hop would have eventually done it as well.
CrazyEddie
11-15-2005, 04:35 PM
I think I got my 3rd bass history lesson for the day.
But I believe that 3rd bas breaking up had something to do with them taking so damn long to drop Dust to Dust because of sample clearing. People lost intrest in them which is easy to do in hip hop because ever dude on the corner rhymes. I think changing tastes in hip hop would have eventually done it as well.
Dust To Dust was a Pete Nice Solo CD w/Richie Rich
CrazyEddie
11-15-2005, 04:36 PM
3rd bass breaking up had nothing to do with the rap scene changing.
and when on the 2nd album are they talking about smoking weed? if they did talk about it it was probably just one line here and there. it wasnt a big part of the record.
Not saying that's why they broke up (no where is that mentioned) but the rap scene changing definetly is why.
Also there was that whole thing with Serch with his Girfriend who became his wife & Pete nIce & Richie Rich did not have girlfriends and what not.
I have the Source back from 93 with Onyx on the Cover with big interviews with Pete Nice about how the Beatnuts did some producing on Dust and talking about some crew that never dropped.
Check out Herbals in Your Mouth on Derelicts
cj hood
11-15-2005, 05:48 PM
3rd Bass broke up cuz they didn't get along........they were put together by Rush to take the spot of the beasties......
Extra Cheese
11-15-2005, 06:00 PM
"herbalz in your mouth" isnt about smoking weed
Extra Cheese
11-15-2005, 06:06 PM
Not saying that's why they broke up (no where is that mentioned) but the rap scene changing definetly is why.
?????? :confused:
not saying that's why they broke up but the rap scene changing definetly is why :confused: :confused: :confused:
you just said no thats not why they broke up but yes thats why they broke up
CrazyEddie
11-17-2005, 05:14 PM
3rd Bass broke up cuz they didn't get along........they were put together by Rush to take the spot of the beasties......
They were nothing like the Beasties.... Nothing
CrazyEddie
11-17-2005, 05:17 PM
?????? :confused:
not saying that's why they broke up but the rap scene changing definetly is why :confused: :confused: :confused:
you just said no thats not why they broke up but yes thats why they broke up
What is your point?
Extra Cheese
11-17-2005, 05:19 PM
my point is that you said the rap scene changing is why they broke, which isnt true.
What about SERCH's solo album?
Using all live instruments.
album wasn't great, but ......
Here it.....comes was a pretty o.k. track.
esp. when Z-trip puts it in the mix.
Micodin
11-18-2005, 07:33 AM
3rd Bass is like a quiet kept secret of Rap, what the youngens now call Hip Hop.
It's like a lot of folks are afraid to admit they liked them but the fact is even through the late 90's Product of The Environment 12" was still high on alot of DJ lists.
That album is really amazing and it's funny - for dissing the Beastie Boys they actually sample them on Steppin to the AM: using "What the Time"... which is MCA on "Time to Get Ill".
I was watching a video of 3rd Bass and I forget which video but they are in a train yard and at the end they show a guy laying on the floor of a beat up train car with the No Sleep till Brooklyn/She's Crafty 12" on the guys head.
3rd Bass was real royalty of Rap at the time I mean they were real down with all the folks that were respected KMD / MF Doom. But they had Def Jam backing them and that's all a group needed at that time but they even had more backing.
You hear Russell Simmons and Serch talking when they are chatting about the name of 3rd Bass on Product. But the Native tongues, BDP Stretch & Bobbito, EPMD, Public Enemy everybody was down with them.
And at the time it was when the B-Boys were sort of pushed to the side. But if it wasn't for the Beastie Boys Russell Simmons woould not have taken a shot at putting Pete Nice & Serch together.
Serch was a freestyler who was in a lot of contests and faired quite well, Pete Nice an English major, headed up the Hip Hop show with Bobbito at Columbia University. And Richie Rich was a really good DJ who won DJ contests so 3rd Bass had a pedigree to them.
But when the rap game changed and Afrocentric views went out the window and amore G-Funk, Ganster Rap and more Alternative Rap came in 3rd Bass split up.
You could see the change when on Product they are talking negative about drugs then the next LP they are talking about puffing on Herbals.Which was not new at the time look at Dr. Dre , he was the worst -
Doc Dre on NWA's " Express Yourself "=
I still express, yo, I don't smoke weed or sess
Cause it's known to give a brother brain damage
And brain damage on the mic don't manage - NUTHIN
but makin a sucka and you equal
Don't be another sequel.. {Express yourself!}
Then next thing you knw he's dropping an LP called The Chronic.
Oh by the way any of you guys here on the first single dropped from that album "N*g^a witta gun" uses the same sample as the B-Boys Pass The Mic single.
That was the most amazing piece of bullshit I've read in a long time. Thank you for that. Cheers.
CrazyEddie
11-18-2005, 09:02 AM
MICODIN How Come?
That's right guys all late 80's /early 90's Rap groups didn't fair so well in the mid to late 90's!
Rap changed & that kind of New York sound was all but extinct.
Nas, Biggie, Wutang (and it's many solo LP's) & Redman, Sermon, KRS One & Busta Rhymes were the only thing really coming steady in the 90's out of NY main stream/radio wise.
Besides the NEw York area at the time Boot Camp Clique & D.I.T.C. Crews not many folks in America were listening to them.
Sure now everybody loves them but at the time people in most of America weren't listening to them. All hip hop nerds now love em but you could but sure at the time the y weren't listening to them.
There was also ATCQ & De La Soul which everybody loved all over.
All those groups who hit hard in the late 80's to early 90's all but dissapeared for the time being.
EPMD - over for a while
Big Daddy Kane - DONE
Erik B & Rakin - Broke Up
D Nice _ Done
Run DMC - After 92 they were done for over a decade
Pete Rock & CL SMooth - Broke Up
Fu Schnickens - done
Das Efx - lps came out but nothing doing there
K Solo - Done
Lords Of The Underground - Done
Biz Markie - became a DJ
Kurious - Finished
KMD- Finished - Not there fault
3rd Bass - over
Brand Nubian - hid out till late 90's besides Sadat X being a guest all over
Slick Rick - after 94 wasn't around until the next decade
Black Sheep - Finito
Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - Broke Up
MC Shan - All attempts for comebacks done
UltrMagnetic - Done
Most all those groups stopped being so important.
There were some that stuck around like KRS ONE & GangStarr, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J.
Let's face it Rap is a style of music that if you ask the average rap fan about a cd from two years ago they call it old school.
I sense many folks go on these boards and takes jabs at people to make themselves feel better becasue the life they lead is crappy so they will put down people that are just talking about this or that not about life's real issues.
This board is for fun not to say hey you are stupid or I'm better than you or what not.
Also the folks taking jabs are living in timbuctoo and hide behind there computer 20 hours a day naver really geting out into the real world and experiencing things.
Lighten up0 say hey man your wrong becasue of this that or the other thing don't say this is B.S. explain why.
You sound Ignorant when you say it's B.S but don't follow up. I respect when somebody says your wrong then tells me why sort of like the folks who posted before you explained why I'm wrong.
But they didn't say it's B.S and ran to the next board to complain and put down the next guy.
Micodin
11-18-2005, 04:14 PM
I said it was bullshit, because your broken english is laughable and your facts are way off base (bass, get it, huh, huh).
You go on spewing bullshit like 3rd Bass was "hip-hop royalty" and then start quoting Dr. Dre's lyrics from "Express Yourelf". It made me laugh. I thought you were joking around. Now, that I see that you were serious... I feel kinda bad for you.
I have all of the 3rd Bass records, and their solo records. But, guess what? No one really gave a shit back then, and no one gives a shit now. Move on.
CrazyEddie
11-22-2005, 10:51 AM
I said it was bullshit, because your broken english is laughable and your facts are way off base (bass, get it, huh, huh).
You go on spewing bullshit like 3rd Bass was "hip-hop royalty" and then start quoting Dr. Dre's lyrics from "Express Yourelf". It made me laugh. I thought you were joking around. Now, that I see that you were serious... I feel kinda bad for you.
I have all of the 3rd Bass records, and their solo records. But, guess what? No one really gave a shit back then, and no one gives a shit now. Move on.
EXPRESS YOUR SELF was to point out what Dre said about weed when he was with NWA then he turned around and made an LP called the Chronic and celebrated WEED this is a known fact Chester Vanderbilt.
They very were big in Rap back then and oh by the way I didn't know I was talking to an Ivy League Alumni. That's not a matter of opinion or not they were big back then.
I have all of their 12" off the first LP and all their 3 Cd's excluding the Gladiator CD single.
It must have got to you that your Yale lost Chester but no worry's always next year for crakers , cheese, Patte and extra dry Martini's with a twist.
All the nasty- frigid princess's you Yale boy's could get your hands on, Chester.
Don't feel bad for me but if you do feel bad enough can give you my address via email and you can send me all themoney or canned food your heart desires or better yet send me some of your old Brooks brothers suits.
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