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Qdrop

11-21-2005, 02:43 PM

It should be noted that the same two guys that are constantly involved in homosexual threads are discussing musicals.

your obsession with both mike and I should also be noted.

i mean seriously....
you are really into us, man.

your albeit joking view of us as being gay lovers has shifted from good-natured goofing, to what i can only describe as a "hopeful wish" that you could perhaps partake in.

creepy.

bigblu89

11-21-2005, 02:47 PM

honest question here...

what was the big deal about this musical? was it good enough that it will be running on broadway for the next 30 years or what?

I've seen it, and honestly, in my opinion, it's because...

#1: It's about "our generation", and "our generation" has nothing better to do then see mediocre plays about "our generation".

#2: Most fans of musicals are women and gay men, and this play "speaks" to both of them fairly well.

I thought it was just OK. My wife is a big fan of musicals, so I've seen my share, and this one doesn't really rank for me.

Qdrop

11-21-2005, 02:52 PM

#1: It's about "our generation", and "our generation" has nothing better to do then see mediocre plays about "our generation".

#2: Most fans of musicals are women and gay men, and this play "speaks" to both of them fairly well.

Homerun, Blue.

hpdrifter

11-21-2005, 02:54 PM

Well I am a woman but I thought it was good. Waaay too overhyped, but that's not its fault.

Sort of like Nirvana.

kleptomaniac

11-21-2005, 02:54 PM

i'm just gonna rent it :rolleyes:

skinnybutphat

11-21-2005, 02:55 PM

creepy.

I'll trade your sweet ass Jerry Porter right now for 1 pic of you eating a bowl of cereal with a cowboy hat on.

Qdrop

11-21-2005, 02:56 PM

I'll trade your sweet ass Jerry Porter right now for 1 pic of you eating a bowl of cereal with a cowboy hat on.

tempting.

i'll give you carnell williams or warrick dunn for him.
seriously.

mickill

11-21-2005, 03:11 PM

Hey hey, you two take that hetero macho fantasy football talk someplace else.

jabumbo

11-21-2005, 03:13 PM

i'll just wait for joseph and the technicolor dreamcoat (the movie) instead

cosmo105

11-21-2005, 03:13 PM

http://www.randi.org/images/051603-Exeter.jpg

mickill

11-21-2005, 03:17 PM

i'll just wait for joseph and the technicolor dreamcoat (the movie) instead
That was actually pretty good. I wouldn't wanna see it on the big screen, though. It'd probably lose a lot of its magic.

skinnybutphat

11-21-2005, 03:33 PM

tempting.

i'll give you carnell williams or warrick dunn for him.
seriously.

Carnell Williams will gain -26 yards in 4 carries with two broken ribs this week. The over/under on you cutting him is 12:20 CST Sunday.

Qdrop

11-21-2005, 03:46 PM

Carnell Williams will gain -26 yards in 4 carries with two broken ribs this week. The over/under on you cutting him is 12:20 CST Sunday.

okay.
warrick dunn?

abcdefz

11-21-2005, 03:48 PM

This is gonna kick all kinds of ass. Who's gonna see it/has seen it?

I can't buy into that on so many levels it's unbelievable.

1) It's a musical; good musicals are a huge exception

2) It's about lionizing people who make really, really awful lifestyle choices

3) Chris Columbus directed it

Qdrop

11-21-2005, 03:50 PM

2) It's about lionizing people who make really, really awful lifestyle choices

welcome to the american culture.....

were gangster rappers can run for office on popularity alone...

abcdefz

11-21-2005, 03:54 PM

Yeah....

Being poor, homeless, gang warfare casualty, or contracting AIDS is an inherently ennobling thing. Ahem.

bigblu89

11-21-2005, 03:56 PM

That was pretty much the main reason I personally didn't like it.

I mean the acting and the songs ans singing was good, but if you have a nice voice and musical talent you can make anything sounds like a decent song.

skinnybutphat

11-21-2005, 04:00 PM

okay.
warrick dunn?

I can no longer discuss such a manly issue in this thread. Please inquire in the Manly Thread.

Qdrop

11-21-2005, 04:01 PM

Yeah....

Being poor, homeless, gang warfare casualty, or contracting AIDS is an inherently ennobling thing. Ahem.

it puts hair on your chest.

Documad

11-21-2005, 08:59 PM

I absolutely HATED the broadway show! I wanted to love it. I saw it right after it won all the awards.

The music is dreadful. (what's the big song? 356,675,778 minutes, 2934592392039529305 seconds?)
The staging was dreadful. (dark and industrial to drive the point home that poor people are depressing)
The fake rock band was pitiful.
The costumes were lame, etc.

And the whole time, I wanted to scream "get a fucking job!!!" That was the wrong reaction because we're apparently supposed to be moved and surprised that people who have no apparent talent, who nevertheless move to NYC, where they refuse to take jobs where they might make some actual money, and instead they strum guitars badly in an apartment, all the while failing to pay the landlord anything, may be forced to leave said apartment. The heavily perfumed old ladies from the suburbs sitting next to me seemed to enjoy the show. My friend and I both worked more than one job while going to school and paying rent and we were unmoved. (My friend also has actual musical talent and she said the music was woefully out of tune.)

Oh, and my friends who loved the show said that the woman playing the crach whore at my show wasn't the best actress in that role, but I don't think it really mattered.

Freebasser

11-21-2005, 09:14 PM

Rent which movie?

fucktopgirl

11-21-2005, 09:17 PM

you know the one you can rent at the rental store!

DandyFop

11-21-2005, 11:36 PM

Oh man oh man. This show, I fucking love it. When I actually listen to a lot of the lyrics, I laugh because they can blow big dick, but it's a really fun energizing show. I've seen it ten times, almost all from the front two rows, and it just pulls you in.

I'm really excited for this film especially since it's almost the entire original cast (including Anthony Rapp who I got to hang out with once yayyyy). A ton of people i know saw it tonight but I'm going Wednesday.

A lot of people don't "get" the big deal with this show, and I can understand that. But musicals in general are silly and out there, so whatever. Just enjoy.

The Notorious LOL

11-21-2005, 11:39 PM

man do I ever fucking hate musicals. holy shit.

DandyFop

11-21-2005, 11:42 PM

I can't understand how anyone can hate musicals. They're so fucking funny and cheesy. Is it just me a Lawrence Welk on this?

The Notorious LOL

11-21-2005, 11:44 PM

its easy, you watch em and they sing and you're like "OH GOD DOES THIS MUSIC EVER SUCK!" and then it continues for an hour and a half with your hatred towards said musical increasing.

DandyFop

11-21-2005, 11:46 PM

Yeah but what about Rap: The Musical?

Weeelll, I'm a gold tooth and I'll tell you the truth, I live in the mouth of a homey!

Would you see that musical?? HUH???

The Notorious LOL

11-22-2005, 12:21 AM

yes.

beastieangel01

11-22-2005, 10:40 AM

oddly enough, my boyfriend loves it. I've never been introduced to Rent in any way, shape, or form. So I know jack shit about it. My boyfriend is so excited though and says how he is so happy he gets to take me.

Meanwhile, I'm like okay, I guess I will see it but it's not like I'm excited like he is.

It kind of throws me a bit :p

hpdrifter

11-22-2005, 10:47 AM

I am curious to hear Rosario Dawson sing. I love her and I would see anything she's in. (yes, including Alexander)

beastieangel01

11-22-2005, 10:50 AM

I'm surprised she picked that piece of shit Alexander to be the movie where her titties were hanging out.

too bad.

hpdrifter

11-22-2005, 10:52 AM

I'm surprised she picked that piece of shit Alexander to be the movie where her titties were hanging out.

too bad.

Yeah but you gotta admit that scene was one of the hottest in the history of cinema. It almost made the rest of the movie tolerable. Mostly because I was no longer watching the movie but was, in fact, still thinking about Rosario and Colin.

mickill

11-22-2005, 10:53 AM

I'm surprised she picked that piece of shit Alexander to be the movie where her titties were hanging out.

too bad.
Well, technically she did already let them hang out in He Got Game. But Spike was pretty stingy with the shot so you could barely tell. Plus Ray Allen had them in his hands so they weren't necessarily "hanging" per se, but...yeah anyway, carry on.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 11:00 AM

beastieangel01

11-22-2005, 11:10 AM

mickill

11-22-2005, 12:00 PM

yeah, they never really hung out as much as in Alexander. Not to say that she doesn't have a great body though, she does. Also, about Alexander, I did NOT need to see Colin's balls. Dear god.

You know what dude really used to like showing his groin a lot? Ewan McGregor. I used to wonder what the hell his problem was because every second movie I saw him in, his friggin wang had to make an appearance. But since becoming more of a mainstream movie regular, he's learned to keep his joint behind his zipper, thankfully. But seriously, what a douche that guy is. And on a related note, his singing in Moulin Rouge (which was among the more torturous movies I've been forced to sit through) was ridiculously annoying.

instigator7022

11-22-2005, 12:02 PM

i feel like its not going to be good

DandyFop

11-22-2005, 02:31 PM

You know what dude really used to like showing his groin a lot? Ewan McGregor. I used to wonder what the hell his problem was because every second movie I saw him in, his friggin wang had to make an appearance. But since becoming more of a mainstream movie regular, he's learned to keep his joint behind his zipper, thankfully. But seriously, what a douche that guy is. And on a related note, his singing in Moulin Rouge (which was among the more torturous movies I've been forced to sit through) was ridiculously annoying.

I'll let his dick hang out anywhere it wants, preferabbly in the area of my vagina.

Seriously, he's so hot. And his singing....omg....so hot. I love that movie.

Rosario Dawson has one bigger nostril than the other, usually stuff like that doesn't bug me but it always drives me nuts when I see her in a movie.

We watched He Got Game on Thanksgiving once...not a family film.

mickill

11-22-2005, 02:37 PM

We watched He Got Game on Thanksgiving once...not a family film.
Did the title throw you off? Did you guys think it was about hunting turkeys or something?

And Ewan sings like a frickin moron.

DandyFop

11-22-2005, 02:40 PM

And how does one "sing like a moron" mike :rolleyes:

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 02:44 PM

Rosario Dawson has one bigger nostril than the other, usually stuff like that doesn't bug me but it always drives me nuts when I see her in a movie.

dude, totally! i was gonna mention that.
i can never look past that when she is on screen....
like after a R.Dawson scene ends, i realize i missed all of the fuckin dialogue due to staring at her uneven nostrils...
gross.

mickill

11-22-2005, 02:46 PM

And how does one "sing like a moron" mike :rolleyes:
He is a moron for singing the way he does, which is both badly and horribly, Barbara.

DandyFop

11-22-2005, 02:52 PM

Oh mike, we were bonding over Rent together and then you had to CRUSH IT!!! you're such a man!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

hpdrifter

11-22-2005, 02:58 PM

Well when I was watching Alexander the last thing I noticed was her nostrils.

God DAMN!

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:00 PM

Oh mike, we were bonding over Rent together and then you had to CRUSH IT!!! you're such a man!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:
There's a difference between being able to appreciate a predominantly gay form of entertainment and being forced to tolerate a man singing very gayly in a pretty bad movie.

hpdrifter

11-22-2005, 03:04 PM

If you've seen Ewan's junk then you know that he could sing like William Hung and I'd still love him.

te he, hung, get it?

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 03:05 PM

Moulin Rouge Exclamation Point! is one movie I walked out of. I couldn't stand it -- made it about forty minutes, maybe.

Though I thought Ewan was damned game in that, and in Down With Love*, for that matter. He seemed to slip into that Movie Musical mode (including acting/singing style) easily, and he's got a fetching smile. I was actually impressed; that shit's hard to do, and that MR movie must've been about 30 setups for every two seconds of film, so.... bully for you, dude.

*Highly recommended, and no one could be more surprised than me. Good movie, once at least. (y)

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:06 PM

He sang like a woman.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 03:08 PM

Musicals do that. It's the form.

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:09 PM

Tell that to Tom Wopat. He sang like a real man in Annie Get Your Gun.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 03:13 PM

DandyFop

11-22-2005, 03:14 PM

Man I love Moulin Rouge Exclamation Point!

After I saw it the first time, I saw it every day that week.

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:22 PM

Never seen it.

Verdi's Fallstaff was even pretty fey, and that was basso basso, I think.

It's the form, dude.

Watch those high-kicking "gang members" in West Side Story and tell me if they're not closer to hairdressers than thugs.

It's the form.
Form shmorm, man. I'm sure you've seen Les Miserables. Jean Valjean, Inspector Javert, they didn't sing like women.

West Side Story is so lame I can't even put it into words.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 03:23 PM

Form shmorm, man. I'm sure you've seen Les Miserables. Jean Valjean, Inspector Javert, they didn't sing like women.

Never seen it.

Trust me -- I can't usually bear that stuff.

I was taken to see A Chorus Line (onstage) in high school and didn't stop throwing up for a year.

DandyFop

11-22-2005, 03:25 PM

Oh I see what kind of singing you like Mike, the "gaston" singing guys, as I call them.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 03:26 PM

mike, do you revel in the recent "homo labels" being thrown at us lately?

cause this ain't helpin, son...

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 03:33 PM

mike, do you revel in the recent "homo labels" being thrown at us lately?

cause this ain't helpin, son...

...not being gay would probably help you even more, Q.

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:38 PM

Oh I see what kind of singing you like Mike, the "gaston" singing guys, as I call them.
Hey, I didn't say I liked it.

Q, the last thing I concern myself with is being perceived as gay on the board, because 1) It wouldn't be a big deal and 2) I'm way too manly and violent, listen to way too much gangster rap, watch too many movies with warriors in them and like boobs waaaaay too much to legitimately be mistaken for a homosexual and 3) it wouldn't be a big deal. Seriously. It wouldn't. I mean it.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 03:45 PM

yeah, i know.

i kid.

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:48 PM

No. Seriously. You gotta believe me. I'm seriously not gay.

Not that it would matter if I was, or if you or anyone else simply thought I was, because it don't bother me none.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 03:48 PM

...not being gay would probably help you even more, Q.

you know, anyone saying that could easily be dismissed...

but seeing as how you are BARNONE the gayest looking person on this board, WITHOUT EQUAL, i must take a little pause from that.

i mean, dude....skinny, 30ish, bald dudes who talks about drinking wine and who's ramblings about his metrosexual lifestyle rival that of even Echewta, should probably keep thier fingers pointed squarely at themselves.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 03:49 PM

"30ish" is pretty kind. Thanks. (y)

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 03:52 PM

No. Seriously. You gotta believe me. I'm seriously not gay.

Not that it would matter if I was, or if you or anyone else simply thought I was, because it don't bother me none.

okay, i gotcha.

you should probably be a little less defensive.
else the "me thinks he doth protest too much" label may arrise.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 03:54 PM

"30ish" is pretty kind. Thanks. (y)

yeah, cause it was, like....totally meant as a compliment.

along with the skin-head, metro sexual comments.
uh huh.

mickill

11-22-2005, 03:54 PM

....who's ramblings about his metrosexual lifestyle rival that of even Echewta...
Ha ha. Oh, that was marvelous.

I mean, it was off tha heezy.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:01 PM

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 04:02 PM

Q's still upset about me spoiling our little camping trip.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:03 PM

Q's still upset about me spoiling our little camping trip.

yeah, keep dodging...

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 04:04 PM

well, i mean seriously...

you people CAN'T pretent you didn't take one look at his skinny, emaciated face and shaved head and didn't immediately think "gee, AZ...where's your leather chaps and boa?".

i mean fair or not....the skinny, white, skin-head look is pretty much the poster child for the San Fran Castro St. homosexual....just short of buttless biker pants.

that guy has a much right throwing the "you're gay" rhetoric retorts around Richard Simmons.

...its' funny; I've heard everything from Telly Savalas to Peter Garrett to Patrick Stewart to Yul Brenner, but you're the first person I've ever encountered who went there.

Verrrrry interesting.

*taps notepad thoughtfully*

mickill

11-22-2005, 04:05 PM

Take it easy there, tough guy. There's no need for it to get ugly in here, Q.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 04:08 PM

Hell hath no fury like a Qdrop scorned.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:09 PM

...its' funny; I've heard everything from Telly Savalas to Peter Garrett to Patrick Stewart to Yul Brenner, but you're the first person I've ever encountered who went there.

Verrrrry interesting.

*taps notepad thoughtfully*

uh huh.
keep telling yourself, mr. desparetlyseekinganyone.

it's more than just your appearance though...
i mean, isn't it somewhat common for frustrated older gay men to be hopelessly single and to work with young children? particularly the pervy type?

oops? did i got too far?
so sorry.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:09 PM

Take it easy there, tough guy. There's no need for it to get ugly in here, Q.

oh, it's all in good fun.

i like ripping on AZ once in a while.
he needs it.

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 04:11 PM

I don't know the scene as well as you, Q; I'll take your word for it.

Who works around children, though?

Your powers of observation are weak, old man.

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:13 PM

I don't know the scene as well as you, Q; I'll take your word for it.

Who works around children, though?

Your powers of observation are weak, old man.

uh huh.
that's right...didn't you "leave" that job?

or were you "asked" to leave...due to certain conduct-

oh, now i'm prying...

sorry.

mickill

11-22-2005, 04:19 PM

Holy shit, Q. Now you're kinda just making an ass out of yourself with this. Wtf?

abcdefz

11-22-2005, 04:28 PM

aka "When did you stop beating your wife?"

Oh well.

Carry on, Q. (y)

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:53 PM

Holy shit, Q. Now you're kinda just making an ass out of yourself with this. Wtf?

what? i don't like him much.

why do you have be one of those "you've gone too far, Q" people?....
just like synch.

just let things play out...

Qdrop

11-22-2005, 04:56 PM

aka "When did you stop beating your wife?"

Oh well.

Carry on, Q. (y)

uh huh.
you just let Mickill's rescue efforts save you some face.

lord knows you couldn't do it yourself.

DandyFop

11-23-2005, 03:20 AM

I think this is Q's suddle way of telling mickill he wants a threesome with a-z.

Qdrop

11-23-2005, 07:50 AM

I think this is Q's suddle way of telling mickill he wants a threesome with a-z.

it's like you're inside my head.

QUICK! WHAT'S MY FAVORITE COLOR?!

abcdefz

11-23-2005, 10:30 AM

You did get me a little riled, Q. Good for you.

*******

The Onion's review (http://avclub.com/content/node/42845) of Rent seems like the charitable version of what I'd think....

Qdrop

11-23-2005, 10:36 AM

You did get me a little riled, Q. Good for you.

next time, finish what you start rather than running to mods.

just put me on ignore, okay?
keep your distance.
i don't like you.

abcdefz

11-23-2005, 10:37 AM

yessir
yessir
yessir

YoungRemy

11-23-2005, 11:08 AM

never seen the play, but I'm looking forward to seeing the film...

whats wrong with a bunch of suburban bohemians who want to have orgies and refuse to work for the man?

abcdefz

11-23-2005, 11:35 AM

whats wrong with a bunch of suburban bohemians who want to have orgies and refuse to work for the man?

Umm..... they sing about it. They dance about it.

In color. Directed by Chris Columbus.

Shall I continue?

abcdefz

11-23-2005, 11:38 AM

[RENT is] a long-awaited, long-overdue film adaptation that plays like Last Exit To Brooklyn as reinterpreted by Up With People. Yes, Rent is the movie about AIDS, heroin addiction, homosexuality, strippers, marijuana, cross-dressing, and bisexuality audiences can take their grandparents to go see safe in the knowledge that any lingering trace of danger or authenticity has been carefully removed by director/co-writer Chris Columbus, who previously proved his countercultural mettle with Mrs. Doubtfire and the first two Harry Potter films.

DandyFop

11-23-2005, 12:25 PM

Umm..... they sing about it. They dance about it.

In color. Directed by Chris Columbus.

Shall I continue?

Just when I start to like you there you go again, being a snob.

abcdefz

11-23-2005, 12:30 PM

....but!

--- but I never stopped being a snob!

I'm serious. Offer me a MGD. I'll show you.

Qdrop

11-23-2005, 12:31 PM

*sigh*
hi dandy.

DandyFop

11-24-2005, 02:53 AM

I saw it! Jampacked theater, I had to wait for my friend and she was a bit late so I didn't get to sit by anyone I knew which resulted in me cheering all by my lonesome (just at the end of a few songs).

I was drunk at the beginning!

I loved it! But I wish the music would have been louder, I wanted to feel it in my veins. It's absolutely impossible for me to not like this movie, I know every single line already, I fill in the blanks they don't talk about because I know the story, so I don't know how I could have not liked it. Except in What You Own, Roger is like in the desert....wtf? That was goofy.

Though I kept expecting Jesse L. Martin to solve a murder.

I love Angel, such a great character.

Fuck, I just love it all. The passion, the love, the message. I don't like that people bitch about it being about well-to-do youngins living in NY trying to be bohemians - SO FUCKING WHAT?? It's mentioned in the play/film MORE than a few times that perhaps they are just all hypocrites, etc., etc.

YAY IM GONNA BE SINGIN THE MUSIC ALL NIGHT.

steve-onpoint

11-24-2005, 11:19 PM

I'm gonna wait to Re: RENT (the movie).

abcdefz

11-26-2005, 06:37 PM

He rent his garments. Varmints.

....marmot!

QueenAdrock

11-26-2005, 06:48 PM

musicals = (n)

beastieangel01

11-26-2005, 07:18 PM

I saw it. It's okay. I find the character Angel and her partner the most interesting and touching.

The guy opposite Mimi irritated the ever-living hell out of me though and everything he sang reminded me of really horrible 80s hair metal ballad songs.

Documad

11-26-2005, 07:24 PM

Tell that to Tom Wopat. He sang like a real man in Annie Get Your Gun.
Ha Ha! John Schneider was AWESOME in Oklahoma!!!

I sure don't want to lose more friends over this stupid Rent phenom. :(
But it sucks.

monkey

11-26-2005, 07:32 PM

saw it on broadway with my dad a few years ago... i got it, he didnt so much. but a good time was had by all.

saw the film yesterday with my dad... i think he really got it. i kept thinking "i lived on ave a. no one sang."

oh, and the original cast thing is great and all.. but theyre playing people in their early 20's, and the only person in that age group is rosario dawson. eh.

DandyFop

11-27-2005, 02:57 AM

It never really says they're in their 20s in the movie though does it? I don't think that has to be a set thing.

I love the character of Angel and how the story is kind of focused around him/her. Very beautiful.

DandyFop

11-28-2005, 04:56 PM

While I was at the dentist today getting cavities filled (in my TEETH), I sang Rent in my head to distract myself. Then I realized they were talking about Rent. They could tell I was reacting to what they were talking about so they were all "oh, have you seen the play" and i Liked raised my fingers for how many times and then they asked if I'd seen wicked and I shook my head and I felt like a fucking retard but it was funny and that's all.