XBOX 360

[ScarySquirrel]

Watch out, bitches. I just spent my entire night camped out in front of a Best Buy, like an idiot, to get one of these suckers just so I can sell it on eBay when Christmas season hits hard.

The bad part is, I'm kind of tempted to open the damn thing and hook it up and go rent a game or two. Seriously, I'll admit that camping in front of the store with all those dorks was one of the stupidest things I've ever done, and probably will do. I'm never camping out for a console release ever again... not in this damn state.

Anybody actually score an XBOX 360 that they're going to play with? Chances are if you did you're probably not sitting on the computer looking at the message board... so I don't know why I asked. But feel free to tell me about how stupid I am for camping in front of a store.

[abcdefz]

The Xbox folks bench tested our software for this piece. We actually could've improved their chip design quite a bit and they still didn't go with us. :mad:

[CJM]

man, how much did you buy it for? cause if you got it for $500, sell it now. (http://search.ebay.ca//search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=x+box+360)

[Qdrop]

actually, SS...

that's a pretty shrewd business move on your part.

congrats.

tell us what you end up selling it for.

[TurdBerglar]

i wouldn't buy one for another six months. there's bound to be problems with launch consoles. always is. now i need to get a high def monitor

[cosmo105]

^hahahaha! that's great.

[mickill]

I think it's pretty dickheaded (Not saying you're a dickhead, SS, but, you know...) when people buy up all the latest hot commodities to profit from something that other people genuinely want to own or buy for someone else. It's like dealing with ticket scalpers. I mean, there's other ways to make money. Buying a large quantity of something that's readily available to everyone hoping it will be worth more someday is a "shrewd business move", but lining up for something that manufacturers already produce in limited quantities to begin with, something you don't even want for yourself, that's low budget hustling.

[synch]

man, how much did you buy it for? cause if you got it for $500, sell it now. (http://search.ebay.ca//search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=x+box+360)
More like 1700 now :eek:

You did get the premium one, right?

[cosmo105]

mickill's just jealous because he didn't think of it first.

[abcdefz]

I think it's pretty dickheaded (Not saying you're a dickhead, SS, but, you know...) when people buy up all the latest hot commodities to profit from something that other people genuinely want to own or buy for someone else. It's like dealing with ticket scalpers. I mean, there's other ways to make money. Buying a large quantity of something that's readily available to everyone hoping it will be worth more someday is a "shrewd business move", but lining up for something that manufacturers already produce in limited quantities to begin with, something you don't even want for yourself, that's low budget hustling.




By the way --

I'm still waiting on the money order for your n'sync tickets, dude. Cough up.

[mickill]

mickill's just jealous because he didn't think of it first.
Yeah, I'm jealous that I'm not making a grand for sitting outside of a Best Buy for hours to buy a game console. Bitch, I make that much in a day selling crack.

[mickill]

By the way --

I'm still waiting on the money order for your n'sync tickets, dude. Cough up.
I told you, no backstage pass, no deal, bruh.

[abcdefz]

I told you, no backstage pass, no deal, bruh.


foiled again

[abcdefz]

Yeah, I'm jealous that I'm not making a grand for sitting outside of a Best Buy for hours to buy a game console. Bitch, I make that much in a day selling crack.



THINK of what that does to the psyche of a black man in this country.

[Echewta]

turn around, every now and then.

[Qdrop]

I think it's pretty dickheaded [...] when people buy up all the latest hot commodities to profit from something that other people genuinely want to own or buy for someone else. [...] Buying a large quantity of something that's readily available to everyone hoping it will be worth more someday is a "shrewd business move", but lining up for something that manufacturers already produce in limited quantities to begin with, something you don't even want for yourself, that's low budget hustling.

call it what you want, but using the concept of supply and demand to your benefit is a hallmark of capitalism.
in truth, someone ALWAYS comes out ahead in every transaction that takes place in a free-market system.
it's not set up to be egalitarian in practice and outcome.

welcome to the western world, beeeeooootch.

[ScarySquirrel]

More like 1700 now :eek:

You did get the premium one, right?
Oh yeah, it's the premium one. I was the ninth person in line at a store that had 54 total systems to give out, 42 of which were premium. I had been at this damn place all night in the cold and there was no way I was leaving without a premium one.

I like all the parents that showed up at 8AM (only an hour before the store opens) expecting to get one. Bastards. Go check my eBay auction, suckers.

Yeah, mickill, I admit I'm a dickhead when it comes to this shizz. Eh... if I want one I'll buy one later, but I don't even think it's going to be an issue for me for a while. I'd like my money, please.

[mickill]

call it what you want, but using the concept of supply and demand to your benefit is a hallmark of capitalism.
in truth, someone ALWAYS comes out ahead in every transaction that takes place in a free-market system.
it's not set up to be egalitarian in practice and outcome.

welcome to the western world, beeeeooootch.

So what do you have against Wal Mart then? Not necessarily in regards to supply and demand, but from an ethical standpoint, taking advantage of people, coming out ahead etc.

[abcdefz]

Dude -- we want legislated morality for them. You know: da Man.

The little guy doesn't count. Pfft. What's one measley -- in 500 years, nobody'll know the difference.

[Qdrop]

So what do you have against Wal Mart then? Not necessarily in regards to supply and demand, but from an ethical standpoint, taking advantage of people, coming out ahead etc.

oh christ...now we gotta get into this.

well, in this particular occurance, we are talking about a huge differance in scale...so the effects aren't even comparable...

but if you are just speaking of the underlying ethical practice between the two, they still are not comparable.

what Scary is doing is not unethical. he buys a hot commodity..and sells if for profit. the people who buy it from him do not need it....they just want it. it's a luxury item, and it causes no harm to the Microsoft empire...no one loses out, no one is muscled out...
this is classic Import/Exporter economics.

what Walmart does, and has established itself in practice....is to be predatory in nature to it's suppliers.
it is the largest retail store on the fuckin planet.
many companies must have thier products on Walmart's shelves to survive....but Walmart will only accept those products on thier shelves at a certain low price, a price that lowers every year. so how do those suppliers cope? they nail THEIR suppliers into lower prices, and so on. along the way, companies have to cut benefits, lay off workers, etc.. to meet those lower costs.
and if you don't? Walmart drops you....and in most cases, your company goes under. massive layoffs and all that.
it's a bullying system that can ONLY result in all of the suppliers getting hurt AND the US economy suffering in the manufacturing sector.
where do you think Walmart and her suppliers have to go to produce products at lower and lower costs?
China.
bye bye US manufacturing jobs.

[mickill]

Q, I was talking about your acceptance of the fundamentals of supply and demand in a free-market system, as you'd mentioned, not SS' little hustle.

[abcdefz]

I don't understand the "it's not on the same scale" argument.

If one person's power allows them to do "X," and one corporation's power allows them to do 100,000(X), it's pretty much the same scale, actually.

Why would anyone think that more power would make them more bound to ethics? When has that ever been the case? That power didn't corrupt but, instead, healed?

Pretty rare.

[Qdrop]

Q, I was talking about your acceptance of the fundamentals of supply and demand in a free-market system, as you'd mentioned, not SS' little hustle.

then why the mention of Walmart, and my disatisfaction with them? my qualms with Walmart have little to do with natural supply and demand movements.

but rather the predatory practices the walmart makes use of to increase profit and the expense of the american workforce and the US economy.

[Qdrop]

I don't understand the "it's not on the same scale" argument. any percieve "damage" that scary could do would be nothing in comparison to a corporation. pretty simple.

If one person's power allows them to do "X," and one corporation's power allows them to do 100,000(X), it's pretty much the same scale, actually. umm...no. there is a differance of 100,000 in the scale.

Why would anyone think that more power would make them more bound to ethics? When has that ever been the case? That power didn't corrupt but, instead, healed? who said that? what are you talking about?

[mickill]

I don't understand the "it's not on the same scale" argument.

If one person's power allows them to do "X," and one corporation's power allows them to do 100,000(X), it's pretty much the same scale, actually.

Why would anyone think that more power would make them more bound to ethics? When has that ever been the case? That power didn't corrupt but, instead, healed?

Pretty rare.
Yeah, I don't buy into the whole "same scale" thing too much either. You either agree with certain practices or you don't. It' pretty simple.

Q, everything we're discussing here still involves accepting or not accepting dog-eat-dog/survival of the fittest doctrine, no?

[abcdefz]

....basically, the idea is that whether it's one person abusing things or one company abusing 1,000,000 things, it's still an ethical situation.

You're either pregnant or not; there's no "I'm pregnant, a little."

There's an apocrophal story about Churchill going up to some beautiful actress and saying, "Madam, would you sleep with me for 40,000 pounds?"

She hemmed and hawed and said, "Well, of course we must agree on the conditions..."

He then said, "Would you sleep with me for a pound?"

She cried, indignant, "Mr. Churchill! What kind of woman do you take me for?"

Churchill said, "We've already established that; now we're merely haggling price."

[Qdrop]

Yeah, I don't buy into the whole "same scale" thing too much either. You either agree with certain practices or you don't. It' pretty simple.

Q, everything we're discussing here still involves accepting or not accepting dog-eat-dog/survival of the fittest doctrine, no?

again mike, no.

first off, i stated that BEYOND the scale....the 2 practices engaged upon by scary and by Walmart are completely different. so just drop that all together.

see, what scary is doing is not predatory at all.

look at what microsoft does: buy the resources to manufacture the xbox (cost). then sell the xbox at a price high enough to cover thier costs AND still more, for profit. that's capitalism.

what scary is doing is just adding another step. he buys one, and sells it to someone else at a mark up, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY THAT MUCH FOR IT.
remember....scary still has to compete with other sellers, who may sell thier xbox for less...or the buyer could just sit and wait for a month, and just buy it at Best Buy for much much less. the consumer still has a choice, AND competition is still intact to keep prices at a certain level. free market.
now if scary bought EVERY SINGLE FUCKIN XBOX and marked the price waaaaaaaaay up, then you have predatory practice, monopoly, ect....because the free market and competition has been nullified.

how does that compare with what Walmart does?

[Qdrop]

....basically, the idea is that whether it's one person abusing things or one company abusing 1,000,000 things, it's still an ethical situation.



i'm not debating the quality of the ethics between the 2, obviously the principle of the ethics remains the same....but the SCALE has a DIRECT connection to the end result.
who will do more damage?

be pragmatic.

and that extreme differance in scale, and thus end result, DOES effect the ethics of the situation...due the amount of people effected. (but that last part is just my opinion)

[abcdefz]

Dude, ethics aren't pragmatic. Your generation needs to get that the fuck out of their collective head right now.

Your pragmatism leads you around to any hole; or, as Rob would say, "Your guts have shit for brains."

[Qdrop]

Dude, ethics aren't pragmatic. Your generation needs to get that the fuck out of their collective head right now. my generation? i'm 28...how old are you, buddy?

Your pragmatism leads you around to any hole; or, as Rob would say, "Your guts have shit for brains." man, i hate when you attempt to wax philosophical.
you come off so pretentious.

[abcdefz]

Sixty-four year olds can sounds as pretentious as they want, you little rodent. (y)

[ScarySquirrel]

Hey now, I'm the rodent here and I'm staying out of it.

Anybody wanna buy an XBOX 360?

[abcdefz]

Give you a buck. (y)

[Qdrop]

Sixty-four year olds can sounds as pretentious as they want, you little rodent. (y)

liar.
you're like 35 or some shit.
we're the same generation, prick.

deal with me.

[mickill]

I'm glad I won that argument against Q.


Hey now, I'm the rodent here and I'm staying out of it.

Anybody wanna buy an XBOX 360?
Do the right thing, man, and donate it to a children's hospital. You've caused enough suffering as it is. It'll absolve you of your wretchedness.

[synch]

Give you a buck. (y)
Cheap bassa.

I'll give you a tenner for it mr Squirrel.

[abcdefz]

deal with me.






....you mean, put you back on the ignore list?

But.... but this is kinda fun. In a fish-in-a-barrel kinda way.

[abcdefz]

Cheap bassa.

I'll give you a tenner for it mr Squirrel.


*surrenders*

[Qdrop]

....you mean, put you back on the ignore list?

But.... but this is kinda fun. In a fish-in-a-barrel kinda way.

oh, dear AZ...
i've owned you since day one.

you were probably one of the easiest i've ever slaughtered.

[ScarySquirrel]

My dog looks awesome chilling with the XBOX (http://photos-527.facebook.com/n5/527/n22405967_30072527_4996.jpg).

[King PSYZ]

plans are already in the works for me to snatch up quite a few PS3s next year, someone's gotta sell them at a 700% markup, why not me? (y)

[synch]

My dog looks awesome chilling with the XBOX (http://photos-527.facebook.com/n5/527/n22405967_30072527_4996.jpg).
Would it be horrible of me to find it amusing if you woke up tomorrow and your dog had been chewing on your xbox?

It's just the way my mind works... I can't help it...

[synch]

plans are already in the works for me to snatch up quite a few PS3s next year, someone's gotta sell them at a 700% markup, why not me? (y)
Unless you intend to import them from japan I doubt it will be the same as the xbox mate.

If the ps1 and 2 launches are anything to go by they will launch in Japan and all of the lunatics that would splash out tons of cash to have it on day one will get one from there, or from someone that got it from there.

I reckon that by the time it gets released in the US all of the insane people will have one already.

I might be wrong though.

[ScarySquirrel]

Would it be horrible of me to find it amusing if you woke up tomorrow and your dog had been chewing on your xbox?

It's just the way my mind works... I can't help it...
Nah, because I'd laugh if someone was actually stupid enough to leave something like that sitting where the dog could chew on it. I took the picture with my dog for my auction to prove that I actually have one and I'm not one of these people saying they'll ship in two weeks or whatever. Trust me, the system is not where the dog can get it, nor where most people would look for it if they came in my room looking for it. I'm guarding this damn thing like crazy.

[synch]

I didn't think you would. I think you learn in week 1 that you can't leave anything that you don't want drooled on, scratched or nibbled on the floor or generally in puppy range.

[King PSYZ]

well thanks to SONY's draconian EULAs and Region restrictions, I don't have to worry about people buying Japanese PS3s unless they're japanese or fluent in japanese since they won't play US games.

so yay for me, and knowing that SONY loooooooooooves to trickle into the market to create demand, I'm gonna be doin just fine come this time next year.

[synch]

Heh, you so don't know the market :D

People will be flocking to get japanese ps2's on release date and will play whatever obscure game in japanese they can get their hands on. I know of people that don't speak a word of japanese that finished the japanese version of final fantasy X (or a similarly huge and complex game).

I'm not saying you won't get rid of the US ps2's if the demand is higher than the offered amount but the margin probably won't be as insane as it is with the xbox. Also because knowing Sony the first batch might have a pretty high price tag.

[King PSYZ]

after watching people pay several hundred dollars for ps2 BOXES, i'm pretty sure i do know the market and most us/ebay consumers don't want to get games for their kids in japanese.

[synch]

Yeah but are people that get games for their kids going to splash out five times the retail price to have a console on release date?

Either way, good luck with your endeavour :)

[King PSYZ]

I just saw an xbox360 sold for 12,000!!!!!!!!!!

[Justin]

thats insane!

Im stayin with the trusty playstation

[synch]

I just saw an xbox360 sold for 12,000!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus. Rich spoilt kids bidding against eachother with daddy's credit card or daddy spending his christmas bonus?

Maybe you are right and there are more insane people around than I thought.

[Monkertrol]

no desire to get this or any new gaming systems... lost the love of video games a few years back

[King PSYZ]

I really want to know what adam's is selling for right now...

[Qdrop]

I really want to know what adam's is selling for right now...

yah, me too.
post a link to the ebay site, scary.

[ScarySquirrel]

The joke's on me so far... nobody's bid on it yet (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8236351874).

[Echewta]

I like to go outside and play. I could swing and slide all day.

[Qdrop]

The joke's on me so far... nobody's bid on it yet (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8236351874).

i just bid on it.



















no no...i'm just kidding.

[abcdefz]

The joke's on me so far... nobody's bid on it yet (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8236351874).



...where's the dog?

Dog not included?


That kinda sucks.



...anyway.

I'm sure you'll get bids as it gets closer to the auction close, Scary. That's probably where all the bids are happening right now.

I didn't look... how many days to you assign to this auction?

[ScarySquirrel]

It was a three day auction. So far there's two days and two hours left on it. I'm not stressin' yet.

Worst case scenario... I have an XBOX 360 to play with.

[Qdrop]

Worst case scenario... I have an XBOX 360 to play with.

the HORROR.

[Sinistar]

I can't fault SS for his seedy plot. If someone is willing to fork over a grand for an xbox than they deserved to be fleeced. It's not like he's hording a flu vaccine. Video games suck these days anyway.

[Qdrop]

Video games suck these days anyway.

few games have stood the test of time like MikeTyson's Punch Out and Double Dragon.

[Sinistar]

You left 1 off the list champ.

[Qdrop]

which is?




and are you an alias, btw? or an honest-to-god new member?

[Kid Presentable]

few games have stood the test of time like MikeTyson's Punch Out and Double Dragon.

Double Dragon 2 on the NES was pertty bad ass. You could throw those dudes off buildings, and you fought those fat dudes in the plane, and the door opened and sucked people out. Inspired!

Then this game came out purporting to be Double Dragon 3. Billy and Jummiy were digitised fuckheads now, all lanky and shit. It would ask for money every two minutes or so.

"To play on please insert more money."

They really fucked up there. :rolleyes:

[Sinistar]

which is?



The first game to use an actual voice track. The first game to make 10 year olds all over the world piss in their pants. The one, the only, Sinistar.

[Kid Presentable]

The first game to use an actual voice track. The first game to make 10 year olds all over the world piss in their pants. The one, the only, Sinistar.

The Quintesson returns!

[Qdrop]

The first game to use an actual voice track. The first game to make 10 year olds all over the world piss in their pants. The one, the only, Sinistar.
never played it.

[Kid Presentable]

never played it.

Hey Q, did you ever play R-Type?

[Qdrop]

Hey Q, did you ever play R-Type?

sounds very familiar.

[synch]

Q, its' like Gradius/Nemesis/Parodius, side scrolling space shooter with power ups and end bosses that take up half your screen.

Why the hell am I trying to explain it if I can just show (http://www.thundercross.freeserve.co.uk/html/rtype_lg.htm) it?

[Qdrop]

Q, its' like Gradius/Nemesis/Parodius, side scrolling space shooter with power ups and end bosses that take up half your screen.

Why the hell am I trying to explain it if I can just show (http://www.thundercross.freeserve.co.uk/html/rtype_lg.htm) it?

yes!!
yes!!

great fuckin game!!

[synch]

I used to play Nemesis/Gradius 2 (same game, one is the euro name and the other the japanese one) when I was a kid and went through a revival a year ago. I bought a second hand NES and Gradius and played 3, 4, and 5 on the ps2.

I had just gotten tekken 5, gta san andreas, pro evolution soccer 4 and all I did was play gradius III.

[Echewta]

R-Type was great.

[vanillgorilla]

i waited 10 hours in a walmart for one.....def. worth it, i still cant believe i did that....anyway its amazing... (y)

[ericlee]

holy shit (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/gobby_/wtfebay.jpg) you can barely read it but some dumbass is trying to sell it for 14k. If he actually pulls it off, maybe he's not such a dumbass but in the meantime...

[DandyFop]

I can't believe all the fuss over a video game console. I never even heard about it till this thread. Video games are sending kids brains into the fucking toilet nowadays, it's pretty disgusting. And I know that's not the ONLY reason and there can be BENEFITS but overall, when I have kids, SNES is the only console in my house.

[synch]

Yeah, all of these fancy schmancy new technologies are corrupting the youth!

*shakes fist over the internet*

[ericlee]

you should only play video games when you're old and your mind is already in the dumps.

[Tzar]

*plays video game*
attn: kid P, where did you find the ps2 version of The Warriors. i looked through JB in the city but couldn't find. help a greek-last-named guy out.

[steve-onpoint]

There's an apocrophal story about Churchill going up to some beautiful actress and saying, "Madam, would you sleep with me for 40,000 pounds?"

She hemmed and hawed and said, "Well, of course we must agree on the conditions..."

He then said, "Would you sleep with me for a pound?"

She cried, indignant, "Mr. Churchill! What kind of woman do you take me for?"

Churchill said, "We've already established that; now we're merely haggling price."

that's str8 pimp shit.

[steve-onpoint]

holy shit (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/gobby_/wtfebay.jpg) you can barely read it but some dumbass is trying to sell it for 14k. If he actually pulls it off, maybe he's not such a dumbass but in the meantime...

looks like she did pull it off. she has 2 bids already. damn.

[K-nowledge]

They're glitching!

HA! HA!

[synch]

Glitching? :D

[abcdefz]

The joke's on me so far... nobody's bid on it yet (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8236351874).




....no bids? Did you close the auction, or did you actually get no bids?


I can disapprove, empathize, walk, and chew gum at the same time.

And read. I can sing while I read. I am singing... and reading both.

[paulb]

the main catching point is starting it at 99 cents on a 1 day auction. everyone and their dog will bid on that. that will raise awareness. not putting it at 400 bucks.

P

[paulb]

http://cgi.ebay.com/PREMIUM-XBOX-360-18-GAMES-4-CONTROLLERS-MANY-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ8237495095QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

this is just stupid.

[Musik]

http://cgi.ebay.com/PREMIUM-XBOX-360-18-GAMES-4-CONTROLLERS-MANY-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ8237495095QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

this is just stupid.


WHOA! it is for charity though, so that's coo.

[befsquire]

my son wants an xbox 360 for christmas. i can't afford the outrageous ebay prices though, and i can no longer camp outside of stores like i did when the PS2 came out. i think i was outside of target from like 11pm until they opened at 8 to get the PS2. you meet some whack people camping out overnight at target.

[ToucanSpam]

my son wants an xbox 360 for christmas. i can't afford the outrageous ebay prices though, and i can no longer camp outside of stores like i did when the PS2 came out. i think i was outside of target from like 11pm until they opened at 8 to get the PS2. you meet some whack people camping out overnight at target.
Whack as in people who drink their own piss for sustinance, or whack as in avid gamers wearing t-shirts that say something Nintendo-witty like those t-shirts with 'quarter-circle-forward-fierce-punch'?


I'm the second guy.

[burbboi]

XBOX 360 = licks balls


It's good on paper, but that's about it. I'm amazed that the first-gen models got out the door without someone realizing they all had overheating problems. I rented it for a week along with 'Gun' and 'King Kong'. Sure, they look good...but try playing it for an hour.

It won't happen. As soon as it overheats, you have to let it sit and cool down or it will just overheat again promptly. I forsee legions of gamers mounting this POS in their freezers just to get a chance to play it for more than 15 minutes at a time.


It's hit-or-miss playing it. Much like the first XBOX launch, they got the jump on the Sony, but market share will surely go to Sony as well with all the problems associated with Microsoft's console(s).