Goodbye Canadian government...

[DroppinScience]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/11/28/canada.government/index.html

Daaaaaamn.

Oh yeah, more importantly...

Moose on the loose in Moncton, New Brunswick

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/11/28/moose-051128.html

[ToucanSpam]

Yeah.


If you vote NDP Brett, I will break your legs.

[Lindsey_1535]

A moose was loose in the IGA parkin lot about a month ago it was fun.
NDP blows your mom

[ToucanSpam]

uhhhhh

Liberal. Maintain the status quo.

[Schmeltz]

As if Christmas wasn't a shitty enough time of year. Can you imagine a fucking Christmas election? Why should we vote for any of these bastards? String them all up, dismantle the parties, and form some entirely new ones. That's what I say.

[DroppinScience]

The election will probably be in January.

And Toucan, I plan on voting for a non-major party (hell, I'd vote for the Bloc Quebecois if it was possible for an Albertan to do so ;) ).

I voted NDP in the 2003 election (more because I liked the person running as MP in my riding, not an endorsement of Jack Layton), but I don't think I can stomach any of the major parties at this moment.

[fucktopgirl]

i hope is any party but not the damn liberal!
I hope PAul MArtin and is party suffer!
npd,conservator,,,,i amshure that will better then liberal!

[NurfBallJeaneus]

As if Christmas wasn't a shitty enough time of year. Can you imagine a fucking Christmas election? Why should we vote for any of these bastards? String them all up, dismantle the parties, and form some entirely new ones. That's what I say.


Agreed (y)

[DroppinScience]

i hope is any party but not the damn liberal!
I hope PAul MArtin and is party suffer!
npd,conservator,,,,i amshure that will better then liberal!

Conservative? Puke. :(

[ms.peachy]

Conservative? Puke. :(

yeah seriously, what is going on with you Canucks?: I was just reading about all this business with the no-confidence vote and all. I thought you lot were all proud of being lefty liberals and whatnot, in the face of your increasingly conservative neighbours to the south. And now you want to bring in your own conservative government? Jeez, I really thought you guys were kinda like resistant to that sort of nonsense.

[paulb]

uhhhhh

Liberal. Maintain the status quo.


100% agreed.

[Qdrop]

Fear and Greed bring about conservative gov't....

have fun....

[fucktopgirl]

Conservative? Puke. :(

i guess npd is a little bit better..
well anything else then the liberal,,,to tell you the truth,i am not really a lot into politic,but its is obviuos that the liberal should died :D
Wiht the montgomery report,everybody was punished ,even chretien but not pual martin,,,hahaha and he was the minister of finances,,,that is a jok!!
le bloc quebecois would be good but,not for the rest of canada!


anyway no matter who is gona win,,its gona be another bunch of liar!! :rolleyes:

[Monsieur Decuts]

give the NDP a chance would ya...its like everyone thinks canada will implode if you elected an NDP government. Seeing how the last 20 years of governement has raped the canadian coifers, might as well elect a party that hasn't!!!

[Schmeltz]

I was just reading about all this business with the no-confidence vote and all. I thought you lot were all proud of being lefty liberals and whatnot


Well, Canadians are generally quite liberal people - much more so than Americans. But the Liberal Party, having been in power too long without any credible opposition, is just a bloated, centrist bureaucracy now. The left-wing NDP doesn't have enough support to get elected, the right-wing Conservatives are too scary (don't worry, they'll never form a government), and the Bloc Quebecois' only platform is getting Quebec out of Confederation, so we don't really have many options in front of us here.

As I said, it would be nice to see the entire establishment reinvented from top to bottom; the career politicians of this country are a bunch of worthless windbags more committed to ideological blustering than to finding a real future for this country. We need new parties, new coalitions, and new representatives.


Seeing how the last 20 years of governement has raped the canadian coifers


What are you talking about? We run a surplus every year. I don't think the NDP is prepared to offer viable solutions to the problems currently confronting this country. They'll just try to spend them away and before you know it the entire country will be doing the British Columbia.

[olivier]

As a Montrealer, I can't have any respect for Paul Martin.

No later then yesterday, he told US government to join the Kyoto agreements. Who does he think he is. The way he said that, looked like the Americans were a bunch of careless SUV drivers with an oil seller for president. But Paul Martin's airplane is the worst airplane ever seen: it pollutes a lot more than a Hummer. And he tries to scare Quebec population by saying Stephen Harper is a dangerous maniac who doesn't care about climate change.

If you are a Canadian, please don't vote for Paul Martin. He is just a criminal and he only care about the money he sent in Barbados with the Canadian Steamship Line. Don't be scared of the conservatives, they won't change a goddam thing about gay weddings (or anything else) because they will never form majority. How about saying to the Liberals that crime doesn't pay.

[olivier]

By the way, I vote for the Bloc.

And what the fuck Bono knows about canadian politic?

[Monsieur Decuts]

o by the way

FUCK YOU SEPERATIST

[STANKY808]

Don't be scared of the conservatives, they won't change a goddam thing about gay weddings (or anything else) because they will never form majority.

In my view there is a hell of a lot more to worry about from a conservative government than rescinding same sex unions.

Marijuana legalization would be out.

More private health care.

Do you really think they will honour Kyoto?

And on and on it goes.

And not to worry about these thing as the Conservatives would only form a minority - great, another election in a year. And if enough people follow your message they might just squeak out a majority. Then it's 4 - 6 more years of those fuckers. If you wanna punish the Liberals, why not vote NDP or Green Party.

[Monsieur Decuts]

why not vote NDP?

someone answer this, I sure can't.

[olivier]

o by the way

FUCK YOU SEPERATIST

I see you really like democracy.

[olivier]

In my view there is a hell of a lot more to worry about from a conservative government than rescinding same sex unions.

Marijuana legalization would be out.

More private health care.

Do you really think they will honour Kyoto?

And on and on it goes.

And not to worry about these thing as the Conservatives would only form a minority - great, another election in a year. And if enough people follow your message they might just squeak out a majority. Then it's 4 - 6 more years of those fuckers. If you wanna punish the Liberals, why not vote NDP or Green Party.

So you put marijuana before health care?

Harper won't do a goddam thing: he will never win in Quebec, so he will never form a majority. I prefer NDP to conservative and a lot more. But NDP is not very popular now. If you live in a district with a strong NDP, vote for them. But first, let's get rid of the Liberals.

[Monsieur Decuts]

I see you really like democracy.

opps.

I was just responding to the loud FUCK YOU that the Bloq has said to Canada.
You folks play nice, and I will, I'm not the one who wants to take my basketball and go home. Saying FUCK YOU is in the interest of me and all my Maritime breathern.

[STANKY808]

Maybe I should have indicated "in no particular order". Is that better?

Anyhow, given Quebec has 75 seats out of 308 it would seem possible (even likely if they take Ontario) that the Conservatives could form a majority without one seat in Quebec.

[olivier]

opps.

I was just responding to the loud FUCK YOU that the Bloq has said to Canada.
You folks play nice, and I will, I'm not the one who wants to take my basketball and go home. Saying FUCK YOU is in the interest of me and all my Maritime breathern.

So by separating Quebec from Canada (and I'm afraid it will never happen), we say fuck you? We don't wanna take the basketball and go home, we just want to change the rules.

What are you afraid of with your Maritime breathern?

[olivier]

Maybe I should have indicated "in no particular order". Is that better?

Anyhow, given Quebec has 75 seats out of 308 it would seem possible (even likely if they take Ontario) that the Conservatives could form a majority without one seat in Quebec.

Do you really think it would happen?

[Monsieur Decuts]

So by separating Quebec from Canada (and I'm afraid it will never happen), we say fuck you? We don't wanna take the basketball and go home, we just want to change the rules.

What are you afraid of with your Maritime breathern?

terrible analogy.

if you want to leave the country, you are leaving the game. You can do it with a smile on your face...but the message is still the same. We don't want to be apart of your game any longer.

As far as the maritimes go, who wants to live in a country with a big blot in the middle of people who don't want to be in the country. The maritimes will be hard pressed to survive if quebec seperates them from the rest of the country.

Your party and their selfish dreams are the cause of the minority governments and the reason Canada can't get anything done.
If we didn't have to pay your province hush money, there wouldn't have been in Liberal sponsership scandal. And you're right, you folks would never seperate because we won't let you!!

[STANKY808]

Do you really think it would happen?

I'll type this slowly in the hopes you may grasp the concept...

If voters follow what you are suggesting than it would happen. Even without a single seat in Quebec. Is it likely? I don't know. I do know, however, the last time a majority Conservative government was in poewr here, they almost destroyed the whole country. Maybe as Monsieur Decuts has suggested, that is your goal.

[STANKY808]

Your party and their selfish dreams are the cause of the minority governments and the reason Canada can't get anything done.


I have no problem with minority governments. They work in other democracies (I think it's Belgium that hasn't had a majority government since 1901 or something). I think it's healthy that a governing party has to get support of those outside of their party. I think it can help prevent one ideology blotting out all other voices. And really, don't we want more participation rather than less?

[EN[i]GMA]

Obligatory:

There's a moose aboot the hoose!

[STANKY808]

How's that compare with;

ruff (for roof)

crick (for creek)

Nevermind how foyer is pronounced.

[Monsieur Decuts]

I have no problem with minority governments. They work in other democracies (I think it's Belgium that hasn't had a majority government since 1901 or something). I think it's healthy that a governing party has to get support of those outside of their party. I think it can help prevent one ideology blotting out all other voices. And really, don't we want more participation rather than less?

good point...although it allows for more underhanded politics and doesn't allow for resolution of any issues where there isn't a clear consensus.

[STANKY808]

good point...although it allows for more underhanded politics and doesn't allow for resolution of any issues where there isn't a clear consensus.

True, but again that's where compromise would become the watchword.

[EN[i]GMA]

How's that compare with;

ruff (for roof)

crick (for creek)

Nevermind how foyer is pronounced.

As a ruralite, I know the best one is: 'Hollar' for 'Hollow'.

Crick is good.

Warsh for wash is always good as well.

[CJM]

So by separating Quebec from Canada (and I'm afraid it will never happen), we say fuck you? We don't wanna take the basketball and go home, we just want to change the rules.

What are you afraid of with your Maritime breathern?



if you don't like Canada, then go back to France. i don't mind french people, but when they start bashing Canada and saying they'd be better off as their own country, it really pisses me off.


I wasn't for the vote of no confidence at all. i can't really see why anyone would be. i havn't talked to anyone that wanted it, so were the MPs acting on their own, or did they acually do what their constituents wanted. i'm voting Liberal no matter who's running in my area, because i say, if the government isn't broken (i don't see riots in the streets, almost everyone is eating and sleeping with a roof over their head, and we have free health care), then don't fix it. if we changed parties, it can only get worse...

[Monsieur Decuts]

GMA']As a ruralite, I know the best one is: 'Hollar' for 'Hollow'.

Crick is good.

Warsh for wash is always good as well.


CHICARGO!

[EN[i]GMA]

CHICARGO!

OHIA!

[fucktopgirl]

[QUOTE=CJM]if you don't like Canada, then go back to France. i don't mind french people, but when they start bashing Canada and saying they'd be better off as their own country, it really pisses me off.QUOTE]


euh why go back to france,here is our land too!I understand the view of separatist,i mean quebecers fight like hell to have the land we have now,,,the english wanted to assimilate us and take everything!So yea,i think quebec should be a country,like france is,italy,spain...We have our own culture,food,humour,history and language,we should preserve it.We are the only french province in canada,so we are really distinct and we should be proud of it!I dont see the separation of quebec as a bad thing with canada,,,we still could have good relation!But its like taking care of ourselves,our ressoources without being rap by the canada governement!

[CJM]

actually, if we got rid of quebec, Canda wouldn't need to have english, and french on everything.

don't you live in BC? :p

[DroppinScience]

Quebec's cool. Even if they can't stand us, I actually like them. (y)

[fucktopgirl]

actually, if we got rid of quebec, Canda wouldn't need to have english, and french on everything.

don't you live in BC? :p

yea i live in b.c but i am and will always stay a frenchik ,a"quebecoise"!
It is in my blood!


At Dropping,there is some extreme separatists that hate the rest of canada,separation is almost a question of life and death!But for the most part,they dont have a problem with it!

[Monsieur Decuts]

Me too DS Quebec is what makes canada special... multiple cultures governing together and retaining their uniqueness.

[olivier]

Quebec's cool. Even if they can't stand us, I actually like them. (y)

Who said that? Some English Canadians are a real pain in the ass, but so many Quebecois are worse. I hate everybody the same.

It's just a thing about beeing different and keeping it like that.

By the way, France is a lot different from us. I'm a lot closer to people living in Vancouver or Philadelphia. I know what it is to get water for free in a restaurant, which is science fiction in France.

[burbboi]

Dont' vote Liberal! DONT VOTE LIBERAL!!!




Even if one thinks that any other party will fail, they DESERVE A CHANCE TO TRY. Which is more than I can say for the crooked, corrupt-assed Liberal governing party at this point. I'm hoping there aren't as many 'closet Liberals' as the last election.

[burbboi]

I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but this whole BQ having a gay separatist leader...good fucking luck there.


The BQ party is bad news for Canada. If Quebec were to separate (which I hope to god they don't), they wouldn't last a month without more companies dealing in english as well as french. The world market is an English market. Like it or hate it, that's the way it is. It would seem there is alot of wishful thinking going on with the BQs platform.

Don't even get me started on Quebec talk radio. They're a bunch of bigotted radicals who are spreading misinformation to the masses without a voice of reason to keep them in check, like say, objective thinking individuals like Mike Harris (no, not the ex-Liberal) in the nation's capital.


All this shit talk of separation has to stop. It isn't good for Quebec and it isn't good for Canada so the BQ should just drop this crap as their election platform.

[burbboi]

euh why go back to france,here is our land too!


Quebecers have land! Some of the most beautiful in the country, so whats the fucking problem?


I understand the view of separatist,i mean quebecers fight like hell to have the land we have now,,,the english wanted to assimilate us and take everything!


Centuries ago. We live in a (relatively) civilized age now. Did you know, that the only country to successfully repell an attack from the US was Canada...French AND English Canada? That's why in large part the large canal was built...to ferry supplies up and down the line. Now, thank god in the big scheme of things it was a short war....because in time our asses would have been handed to us.



So yea,i think quebec should be a country,like france is,italy,spain...We have our own culture,food,humour,history and language,we should preserve it.We are the only french province in canada,so we are really distinct and we should be proud of it!


I, as well as many other people across canada are proud of our french heritage!!! New Brunswick has deep Acadian roots and a vibrant french community..as do many areas from coast to coast. Separation would alienate EVERYONE.


I dont see the separation of quebec as a bad thing with canada,,,we still could have good relation!



Fat chance guy. I mean, really. 'Here, take more wood and food! It's the least we could do for a 'country' that wanted nothing to do with Canada for decades!' It's fucking RIDICULOUS.

[wavin_goodbye]

since when does voting for the bloc = voting for separation? following that logic, paul martin should concede quebec's independence on january 24th, because it's becoming clear that more than 50% of the province will vote bloc. not all people who vote bloc are hardcore nationalists.. i myself am considering it, and i'm not a quebec or canadian nationalist.. not to mention the fact that i'm an anglophone.

[burbboi]

It's common knowledge that the BQ are pro separation. Fuck, canadians have had to endure 3 referendums largely because of their lobbying for it.


I agree that from my previous posts, it would seem that's all i think the Bloc stands for. Listen to talk radio in Quebec for a couple weeks and you'll see why i'm worked up over this separation debate.


Listeners are force fed bullshit. His name escapes me at the moment, but a very popular radio show in quebec was canned because of the hosts blantantly separatist views.


It's like a goddamn WWE monologue with alot of those hosts.

[olivier]

I'm sorry to inform people that Jeff Fillion (the asshole in the radio) vote ADQ. This party doesn't agree with separation: it's right wing without religious stuff.

You wanna talk about Acadians? I don't know a lot of them (I mean people of my generation) who can have a conversation in french for more than two sentences. I think it's sad for them.

The gay guy is in PQ, not BQ: I know it's complicated.

Could you just stop being so agressive because we are different. You don't know us.

[wavin_goodbye]

It's common knowledge that the BQ are pro separation. Fuck, canadians have had to endure 3 referendums largely because of their lobbying for it.


I agree that from my previous posts, it would seem that's all i think the Bloc stands for. Listen to talk radio in Quebec for a couple weeks and you'll see why i'm worked up over this separation debate.


Listeners are force fed bullshit. His name escapes me at the moment, but a very popular radio show in quebec was canned because of the hosts blantantly separatist views.


It's like a goddamn WWE monologue with alot of those hosts.


the bloc only acts as a representative of the views of quebecers in parliament. it has no power whatsoever to call a referendum. that's a provincial thing.

[CJM]

i was at a mall, and walked by an elections Canada place. i went in to ask about registering, and it turns out i could both register and vote right then and there. it took a max of 5 minutes, and it felt good.