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HotAndWet
11-30-2005, 01:06 PM
That movie looks like a pile of shit. It was written by some lame white guy (I think) and they make it seem like women are happy to be "geishas" or "slaves to men", fuck you. :mad:
Echewta
11-30-2005, 01:08 PM
Umm, have you read the book?
HotAndWet
11-30-2005, 01:09 PM
No, but that's what I got from the preview.
Echewta
11-30-2005, 01:16 PM
Thats too bad. The book was pretty good. Geishas aren't whores. Much more to it than that.
Anyway, Ziyi Zhang is the hotness.
Echewta
11-30-2005, 01:40 PM
Sak, you are well versed in the art of serving tea and playinge Biwa?
cookiepuss
11-30-2005, 01:45 PM
I haven't read the book yet so can some one tell me what's the deal with the blue eyes? IS this something the movie generated or is that part of book? I mean, Japanese people generally have brown eyes and brown being the dominant gene over blue, I'm just wondering how she would have ended up with blue eyes. Could be that's the whole point to make her extra unusual, but I'm just curious if her character is supposed to be of mixed race or something. Cause in reality I don't think you're gonna find a full-blooded Japanese with blue eyes who isn't wearing colored contacts, I'm just not sure it's genetically possible. :confused:
ASsman
11-30-2005, 01:48 PM
That movie looks like a pile of shit. It was written by some lame white guy (I think) and they make it seem like women are happy to be "geishas" or "slaves to men", fuck you. :mad:
Excellent, that is how you should choose the movies you go to see. That way I don't see you at the theater when I rarely go to see a good film.
beastieangel01
11-30-2005, 02:33 PM
I think it looks like it will be good. I haven't read the book, I should get on that.
ms.peachy
11-30-2005, 02:36 PM
I loved that book!
Me too, it made me cry. I thought it was excellent.
It may have been written by a 'white guy', but if I'm not mistaken, didn't he write it based ona series of interviews he did over several years with a 'retired' geisha living in NYC? As I understood it, it was sort-of her biography, although not exactly.
beastiegirrl101
11-30-2005, 03:33 PM
I loved that book!
Funky Pepp
11-30-2005, 03:41 PM
I haven't read the book yet so can some one tell me what's the deal with the blue eyes? IS this something the movie generated or is that part of book? I mean, Japanese people generally have brown eyes and brown being the dominant gene over blue, I'm just wondering how she would have ended up with blue eyes. Could be that's the whole point to make her extra unusual, but I'm just curious if her character is supposed to be of mixed race or something. Cause in reality I don't think you're gonna find a full-blooded Japanese with blue eyes who isn't wearing colored contacts, I'm just not sure it's genetically possible. :confused:
It's important in the book, too. Because she had this blue eyes (which is of
course unusual), she was able to serve as a geisha. Her sister (brown eyed)
had to become a whore. Their father gave the two girls away, when his wife
died, because he couln't care for them. You really have to read that book.
It's very good. And they don't say that it's the dream-job to get, to be a
geisha. There are some good aspects about it and some very bad aspects...
HotAndWet
11-30-2005, 04:14 PM
Whatever, it still seems lame and totally uninteresting, :rolleyes:
cosmo105
11-30-2005, 04:16 PM
i think you should give it a chance. i haven't read the book, but i've read so many good things...it's not being blatant and saying "this is the way women should act," it's a movie about a specfic culture and its gender roles. i don't think it's trying to force those notions on anyone.
ms.peachy
11-30-2005, 04:22 PM
Whatever, it still seems lame and totally uninteresting, :rolleyes:
I think you are imposing your western ideas on a non-western concept. For many young women, to become a geisha was something that would make them happy, and it's nothing to do with being a 'slave to men'.
If it's so very uninteresting, why did you feel moved to make a thread about it, I wonder?
hpdrifter
11-30-2005, 04:41 PM
I agree with whoever said it looks pretty. I really want to see it.
And yeah, it could have been this woman's own biography, it is called "Memoirs of a Geisha" after all.
By the way, did anyone else read that they're making a biopic of Marlene Deitrich and Gwyneth Paltrow will play her?
Anyway, Ziyi Zhang is the hotness.
i couldn't have put it better myself.
ms.peachy
02-04-2006, 03:46 PM
Hey so, I finally just went to see this. Took me long enough. I thought it was rather good. It's been some years since I read the book, but it seemed pretty true to it from what I remember.
insertnamehere
02-04-2006, 03:54 PM
i read the book and really liked it but for some reason the movie didnt seem like it would be very good.
ms.peachy
02-04-2006, 03:57 PM
Well I don't think it's neccessarily one of those films you really must see in the theaters to get the full effect, but when it comes out on video it will be well worth renting, I say.
apparently
(i havent seen the movie but this is what i've heard from this dude who's asian)
all of what you think your learning from it about the asian culture with geisha's or whatev..
is ultra bullshit.
ms.peachy
02-04-2006, 04:08 PM
It was a pretty bad film. While beautiful shots at points, other times the shots were cluttered with too many visuals. The choice to speak in english really hurt the film, in my opinion. The horrendous accents are distracting. The film comes off too much like a fairy-tale or a soap opera. Some of the dialogue was terribly written and this is unfortunate. I had hopes for this...oh well.
I don't agree. It was a book written in English, so it would have been pointless to have another language spoken. The dialogue was no more stilted in the film than in the book, and I did not find the accents at all distracting, it was exactly what I expected. As far as it being a fairy tale, as I said it seemed pretty true to the book to me. I guess maybe that is the difference in how you viewed it and how I did - we came to it with different expectations. I wanted it to be like the book, which it was; you wanted it to be something else, what that is I can't say, because I'm not you.
B4BY 4NN
02-04-2006, 04:11 PM
apparently (i havent seen the movie but this is what i've heard from this dude who's asian) all of what you think your learning from it about the asian culture with geisha's or whatev, is ultra bullshit.
You're a fucking moron, and I'm not sorry.
The MOVIE is based on the book, so of course, a lot of what would be true isn't. Common sense. Plus; there was/is a lot of controversy concerning the movie (Chinese actors/actresses playing Japanese roles, an English script). However, the book itself is factual. It's of a woman's memoirs, no? And what's the definition of a memoir?
ms.peachy
02-04-2006, 04:18 PM
apparently
(i havent seen the movie but this is what i've heard from this dude who's asian)
all of what you think your learning from it about the asian culture with geisha's or whatev..
is ultra bullshit.
So, you don't actually have an opinion of your own, since you don't actually know anything about the film or about the culture, but you just thought you'd like to share someone else's opinion who may or may not be 'from that part of the world', as if it matters?
Hey, thanks (y) v informative :rolleyes:
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