the short lived acquaintance

[zippo]

this is about those people you meet, that you know will probably be present in your life for only a short amount of time. people that you value, that youve had maybe incredible conversations with, maybe even more incredible than the ones you have had with your long-lived acquaintances; but you see them those couple of times, or those couple of times during some months, and then you never see them again. like proffesors that touch you for some reason, for the way they teach, because of a conversation youve had with them, or because of something they said that left you thinking, and you know when the semester ends, you wont be seeing them anymore.

theres a melanchollic aura that surrounds these ephimeral relations...the ones you could have with a friends cousin, or the person visiting your friend from another country, or a proffesor/teacher, or a person at a party whos host you arent acquainted with, or a non-close friends family member, someone you meet in a foreign country during a course,or a tutor, etc, etc, etc.

its like you look at the convseration youre having, from the outside, as a third person for a couple of seconds and you feel the sadness of the situation for a moment sometimes ,you foresee the probable future, how that moment/s with that person youre with right now will probably get lost and forgotten quickly and easily. its like those musical tunes that get stuck in your subsconsious because you hear them at a moment when youre not paying attention,so when you try to identify the tune, you have no idea what it is, you cant remember,but its there, it was a short-lived moment of your life. like when youre walking along the street and you hear the tune of a song coming from a store selling musical boxes, the types of things you wont completely remember in the near future, the types of things youll have trouble identifying.

are these moments with these later anonymous people worth living? are the emotions coming from them worth feeling? are we supposed to have these short lived, ephimeral relationships, and not only have long term ones that build and stay?

sometimes, you can easily identify these types of moments, these short lived relationships,right in the spur of the moment and when i do, if i do, i feel like packing my bags and leaving sometimes, saying to the person "you know what this is right? its one of those. yea, we probably wont be seeing each other again, and if we do, it will only be two or three times max more. and then, today, and those other days, will be as if they never existed.we´ll have trouble remembering having met each other and that wont matter because unless something really "big" happens to single this moment or relationshipn out, it wont make a difference. we´ll simply survive in each others subconscious, until, life decides it, we´ll pass on and die in each others minds, as if none of this ever existed. so, how about we just call it a day, finish our non-existant beer, you go your way and ill keep on going mine."

but then i think, maybe these meaningless relationships arent meaningless, maybe its our time to take a break from the real long relationships we form throughout life, and taking the situation and just deleting it like that would be the equivalent of playing God and taking someones life. maybe i shuoldnt play around with life like that and just live through its meaningless episodes just as i do its meaningful ones. because maybe, just maybe, something, some coincidence will occur and make the two paths cross one again, and then the short lived could maybe become long lived.

[Nuzzolese]

I never feel insistent that they are meaningless and doomed to end forever soon. I am always filled with the hope that this is the start of something and I feel tingly, like we'll find a way to keep in touch or I'll just save them on the decorative knick knack shelf of my memory where they won't mingle with my every day throw pillows but if someone should notice them and ask, I can gingerly pull them down and talk about it. Or I think, if I run into this person again how exciting that would be. I automatically feel romantic and optimistic. You never know! You never know how things could end. It's not really over.

The only time I don't feel this way is on the internet- because it's so far away, it's just words, so less likely that I will encounter this person again and would they even be the same person if I did? In that case it feels like acting, like indulging in a role on stage for the entertainment of the other. You burst and pop and give all your best dance moves and jokes and you feel enthusiasm only because you know you won't have to keep it up forever, free of the consequences of the other person's impending disappointment of you.

[Qdrop]

wow, Zippo sobered up.

[Qdrop]

In that case it feels like acting, like indulging in a role on stage for the entertainment of the other. You burst and pop and give all your best dance moves and jokes and you feel enthusiasm only because you know you won't have to keep it up forever, free of the consequences of the other person's impending disappointment of you.

you just summed up the formula for message board posting quite nicely.

[Nuzzolese]

you just summed up the formula for message board posting quite nicely.

But does the applause of the internet aquaintance ever satisfy you? Is it worth it?

[zippo]

I never feel insistent that they are meaningless and doomed to end forever soon. I am always filled with the hope that this is the start of something and I feel tingly, like we'll find a way to keep in touch or I'll just save them on the decorative knick knack shelf of my memory where they won't mingle with my every day throw pillows but if someone should notice them and ask, I can gingerly pull them down and talk about it. Or I think, if I run into this person again how exciting that would be. I automatically feel romantic and optimistic. You never know! You never know how things could end. It's not really over.

definitely, you never know, but... sometimes i step over my feet and inevitably play God and get this feeling that its gonna be "one of those" acquaintances. but yea, the excitement of meeting a new person, looking at the moment from the outside, looking at them like a new toy you just bought and planning out what exciting role they could now start to play in your life on the side while youre talking. when conversations with new people are extremely interesting and exciting, i sometimes cant help getting a bit hyper, as if ive just received some news "hey, s/he could be a candidate to be a real important person in youre life and its happening right now!".


The only time I don't feel this way is on the internet- because it's so far away, it's just words, so less likely that I will encounter this person again and would they even be the same person if I did? In that case it feels like acting, like indulging in a role on stage for the entertainment of the other. You burst and pop and give all your best dance moves and jokes and you feel enthusiasm only because you know you won't have to keep it up forever, free of the consequences of the other person's impending disappointment of you.

people on the internet...its so...confusing sometimes. sometimes i go crazy thinking, "who are these people, i mean, i wonder who the hell these people actually are", and i get all these possible ideas in my head, getting really immersed in the mystery of it all...but then...i realize...its just our senses playing with our heads....theres nothing...necessarily mind blowingly interesting about that person on the other side, its just curiosity killing the cat, its the simple fact that information is missing rather then information per se abuot them that boggles our minds sometimes. and then i go back to the initial idea, to once again continue onto the other one, and on and on in a circle. i like that information is missing, it makes the relation more interesting than it probably is.

[zippo]

wow, Zippo sobered up.

yea i havent made one of my long threads in a while

sucka my cocka, etc

[Qdrop]

But does the applause of the internet aquaintance ever satisfy you?

barely if at all....it's hollow.
i mean, if i rip off a good ringer on someone and people reply with praise...i get a mild ego boost for a moment...

but again, it's hollow. this isn't "me"...none of the people on this board are really showing thier "whole"....so there isn't much truth or intimacy to our posts...or to our relationships.

when jenny comes on here and reads my posts....she says she doesn't even recognize me on here....i'm like a differant person. she hates my "board persona"....

what this board (and most others) basically is.....is a competition for the witty. who can come up with the funniest, most articulate posts, or most biting.
who's posts are the most attention garnering.
everyone wants to be that "person". the one that when they post, everyone crowds around to see what they typed....
that's so transparent that it's sometimes nauseating....but whatever.


Is it worth it? depends on what you bring to it and what you expect from it.
this passes time and boredom for me.

and sometimes i genuinely DO like the competative spirit on here though...trying to top the next guy with a funnier, wittier post.
trying to out-wit someone in a flame war.
it has it perks.

[fucktopgirl]

are these moments with these later anonymous people worth living? are the emotions coming from them worth feeling? are we supposed to have these short lived, ephimeral relationships, and not only have long term ones that build and stay?.

They are worth living,for shure!Even is they are ephimeral,they are as precious as the one that last years!Sometime thoses meeting are like a fresh of breath of air that energize you and give you inspiration in your life.Ephimeral does not mean lack of meaning,its just mean that is short but full of life.Butterfly are ephimeral but are they fucking awsome,anyway i found them beautiful,especially thoses super night moths!Anyway back to people,yea everything that come in contact with you in your life its worth living ,feeling it .Is in it life about experienced,whatever the last of they time might be!

[mickill]

But does the applause of the internet aquaintance ever satisfy you? Is it worth it?
Satisfying? Nope.

Worth it? It doesn't really matter in the end.

zippo, people will always come in and out of your life. You'll always wish that some would have stuck around longer and that others would just go away and fall off a bridge already. Always remember, though, that they're the supporting cast members. You are the star, baby. YOU!

[zippo]

what this board (and most others) basically is.....is a competition for the witty. who can come up with the funniest, most articulate posts, or most biting.

and i find it especially funny when theres the "______ Appreciation Thread" type, or when theres comments like "man, youre just not doing it anymore for us",etc. its like the conversations in this message board arent conversations, theyre, as i said in a thread some while ago, a competition where you have to be on your feet, which would be the equivalent of a friggin "Life Competition" type deal, wtf! its hilarious whenever i read those threads you guys. its like as if all the actors in hollywood are thinking about when they make a movie is if theyre gonna be Oscar worthy. i made a post abuot this a bit ago dammit where is it

[zippo]

its just mean that is short but full of life.

nice (y)




and mickill, babe,sweetheart... i am, always have been and always will be the star, no doubts, no doubts

OH SHAZAM

seriously though

OH SHAZAM

[kll]

hi zippo

[zippo]

haha godamit kll

[kll]

dear zippo,
promise me that we won't be short-lived acquaintances.

love,
kll

[paul jones]

I can't write as many words as zippo and nuzzolese

[fucktopgirl]

me ,if i write long post like that,people would cry :D

[zippo]

dear zippo,
promise me that we won't be short-lived acquaintances.

love,
kll

i internet promise!

[Qdrop]

or when theres comments like "man, youre just not doing it anymore for us",etc.

oh god...
i get that shit all the time from peons who think they are so fuckin clever, and can't think of shit else to say....

it's become a generic attack on anyone with "percieved" board popularity.

"you used to be cool man...."

[kll]

oh god...
i get that shit all the time from peons who think they are so fuckin clever, and can't think of shit else to say....

it's become a generic attack on anyone with "percieved" board popularity.

"you used to be cool man...."

Q used to be cool?

[zippo]

^
oh god, we have internet nicknames for internet nicknames

[fucktopgirl]

this is before or after he attack me!

"can you post less"

wtf was that?




refering to kll remark"Q use to be cool?"

[mickill]

oh god...
i get that shit all the time from peons who think they are so fuckin clever, and can't think of shit else to say....

it's become a generic attack on anyone with "percieved" board popularity.

"you used to be cool man...."
Braaaaadd. Braaaaaadd. Come on now. You know you never miss an opportunity to inform me when I'm "flubbin it", having an off day/moment, not being as witty as I should be etc....don't you go being a Hippokrèt now. Don't your dare.

[kll]

this is before or after he attack me!

"can you post less"

wtf was that?




refering to kll remark"Q use to be cool?"
he was always a nerd. never cool. always the one getting thrown in trash cans at lunchtime. before and after he told you to post less. you were his attempt of being a bully. you are still here. his scare tactics didn't work. nerd.

[Qdrop]

this is before or after he attack me!

"can you post less"

wtf was that?




refering to kll remark"Q use to be cool?"

go back to russia....

[fucktopgirl]

hahahaha

small balls

[Qdrop]

Braaaaadd. Braaaaaadd. Come on now. You know you never miss an opportunity to inform me when I'm "flubbin it", having an off day/moment, not being as witty as I should be etc....don't you go being a Hippokrèt now. Don't your dare.

but i've never pulled that "you used to be cool...now you're just lame" bullshit on you...

you know you da king!


ass.

[Qdrop]

he was always a nerd. never cool. always the one getting thrown in trash cans at lunchtime. before and after he told you to post less. you were his attempt of being a bully. you are still here. his scare tactics didn't work. nerd.

ha, you fuckin adore me....
you internet hussy....

[Qdrop]

hahahaha

small balls

yeah, bitch....

poking fun at you was my "undoing"....
your endless popularity on this board proved to be the powder keg that i dared to throw a match at ....

oh, i paid dearly....
ohhh....


you fuckin twit.

[fucktopgirl]

you are so clever and nice and full of constipation! :D

[BionicEye]

i find it especially funny when theres the "______ Appreciation Thread" type, or when theres comments like "man, youre just not doing it anymore for us",etc. its like the conversations in this message board arent conversations, theyre, as i said in a thread some while ago, a competition where you have to be on your feet, which would be the equivalent of a friggin "Life Competition" type deal, wtf! its hilarious

so true. the competition element is drains the fun out of reading, writing, and interacting for the sake of learning about people. sometimes its like the difference between a conversation and an arguement. in an arguement people just want to prove their point at all costs whereas a conversation might actually lead to some sort of enlightenment.



about your initial post, i hear what youre saying. however, i believe that every single person that we come into contact with, no matter how minimal that contact may be does have some sort of effect on us - consciously or subconsciously. sometimes those people we see in passing add up to the ideas we automatically generate when we meet someone new. sometimes those people 'we're meant to lose touch with' can add up to a new way of dealing with the ones that we keep close by. i feel that there's as much to learn from a bum as from a the dalai lama or whoever you want to put there. i dunno. i think you summed it up best yer own damn self...


just live through its meaningless episodes just as i do its meaningful ones. because maybe, just maybe, something, some coincidence will occur and make the two paths cross one again, and then the short lived could maybe become long lived.
there you go.

[Qdrop]

you are so clever and nice and full of constipation! :D

i'm full of constipation?


fuckin twit.

[fucktopgirl]

hehehe,did you not post about shit this morning!

[ericlee]

it sounds very similar to my time in the army. Alot of close friends at the time, I will never see again. I did happen to meet a couple of them in Kuwait and Iraq while they were still in the army and were stationed there at the time with my old unit.

Also when I was over there, I've had many friends that were contractors with me and they've all completed their contract and went back home. A couple of my friends never made it back but we all knew what we were getting into when we signed the contract.

[kll]

since when do restraining orders = adoration?



i like your sweater today. it's so cute to see a guy wear knitted reindeers.

[Qdrop]

so, how do you people feel about recapturing old friendships or aquaintances?
if the oppurtunity arrises?


see, personally....i hate it.
once a friendship ends..for whatever reason....and alot of time elapses....
i find the prospect of catching up with someone to be truly awkward...i avoid it at all costs.

i have no interest in going to highschool reunions....or even catching up with any college buddies that moved away...

it would just seem...forced if i did.
you know?

[paul jones]

I got shitloads of new socks the other day

[Qdrop]

since when do restraining orders = adoration?



i like your sweater today. it's so cute to see a guy wear knitted reindeers.


They're MOOSES, god dammit!!
fuckin MOOSES!!!!


and the only reason you got that restraining order was because i smashed both your car windows and peed on your seat....
that was the ONLY reason...
and you know it.

[ericlee]

I got shitloads of new socks the other day

fucker!! why did I laugh so hard over that?

on the other hand, I took a massive dump and flushed the toilet and of course, there was that one little morsal that didn't want to go down. I flushed the toilet again only for it to come back up and then after one final flush, down it went. I knew I wasn't goin to see that little shit again.

[zippo]

we all knew what we were getting into when we signed the contract.

which perfectly describes the feeling i sometimes get when i think im encountering one of these types of relationships. its almost as if i see or sense something im not supposed to, like when you see the card go into the magicians sleeve or when you catch the last person hiding behing your couch to surprise you on your birthday




and, about meeting again with old friends, this is a big part of my life, having moved so much, its like, if i dont do it or believe in the fact that not everything is lost when i leave, it simply automatically taints the future blue.

[Nuzzolese]

and, about meeting again with old friends, this is a big part of my life, having moved so much, its like, if i dont do it or believe in the fact that not everything is lost when i leave, it simply automatically taints the future blue.

Doesn't an initial resignation that it will soon end for good also taint the future blue just as much?

[zippo]

Doesn't an initial resignation that it will soon end for good also taint the future blue just as much?

*strums single, lonely,minor guitar chord*

nah

[zippo]

Doesn't an initial resignation that it will soon end for good also taint the future blue just as much?

seriously though, i dont really or have ever "resigned" to these types of relationships when i feel one coming, this thread was just some of the thuoghts that go through my head, i mean ive considered dropping that whole discourse i wrote in my first post to the person but i never actually did or probably will, i dont ever resign, i just think about things

but yes, it does taint the future a bit blue while i consider it, but thats ok, i sometimes like going through strong emotions, even if theyre not one hundred percent reflecting reality...

[Nuzzolese]

your feelings control your thoughts, or the other way around.

[zippo]

i treasure that about the human being, how we can live anything we want to live, and if youre a good actor/actress unto yourself, in your mind, in your thoughts, you can be really convincing, even if you know its not necessarily true,it doesnt matter, like when we cry or get excited in a movie, just the value in living human emotion, which is why music affects me so much when i listen to it

im sort of digressing here btw

[apparatus]

I don't believe that only the lasting relations in your life count. What is "lasting", anyway? Somehow, even if you barely know a person, and never get to see them again, they might inspire you (just as fucktopgirl put it), they will still be a part of your path, even if you might not remember them later. We will never understand some of the most lasting structures of our own minds and identities, and these acquaintances are probably a part of those.

You need to take things for what they are - you don't need to meet a person again for them to have an impact on your life, however small that is. A relation won't be more "valid" because you met again, somehow every meeting has a meaning in its time and context.

I'm fascinated by how people interact online - there's this message board standard of communication, and then there's the "internet friend" thing which is quite weird because it's neither a totally detached relationship nor something equivalent of an IRL friendship. You can share very intimate details to strangers online, so the befriending process can be quite rapid, but there's a barrier somewhere and they still won't know who you actually are. At least that's how I experience it.

As for meeting old friends/acquantances after a long time, it's pretty tough because you're usually not exactly the same people anymore. It's like getting to know a new person, but still they're familiar.

[zippo]

I don't believe that only the lasting relations in your life count.

i know, i know, i never really was implying that i wanted them out of my life or that i would actually take that ridiculous and pretty much impossible step...i was just thinking.

and i like the way these situations or realtionships influence us, i like the whole mellancholic aura of it all, it makes me think

[apparatus]

i know, i know, i never really was implying that i wanted them out of my life or that i would actually take that ridiculous and pretty much impossible step...i was just thinking.

and i like the way these situations or realtionships influence us, i like the whole mellancholic aura of it all, it makes me think

Yeah, I know, I was just sayin'...

I like the bittersweet parts of life. They are usually more sweet than bitter to me.