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Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 12:20 PM
When I was a kid, and my brother and friends and I played war games and fighting games - which I had to play sometimes in order to have someone to play with. The neighborhood boys failed to comprehend my enthusiasm for My Little Ponies - the bad guys were always German or Russian. This was probably because of trace hints from the news regarding the cold war, and because of bad guys in the movies always being ice cold Germans and Soviets. I wonder about kids in other countries, and their movies. Who were their bad guys?

adam_f
12-29-2005, 12:27 PM
I'm sure Soviet and German movies portrayed Americans in a loving and admirable light not seen since ever.

marsdaddy
12-29-2005, 12:35 PM
I'm sure Soviet and German movies portrayed Americans in a loving and admirable light not seen since ever.The Japanese probably portrayed Americans as omniscient.

WWII probably had more to do with the movies then the Cold War. There were no victims of the Cold War, unless you count Nicaragua or Afghanistan.

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 12:35 PM
So do you think Americans were their only bad guys? I wonder which kids pretend fight which countries now.

BangkokB
12-29-2005, 12:36 PM
Thai people feel superior to Cambodians,Laotians and people from Myanmar.
Although all are prevalent in the prostitution circles here in the Land of Smiles now. So that may well be the case in the why

Don't know if it helps but just doing my part

adam_f
12-29-2005, 12:37 PM
edit: I wanted to mention Myanmar, but seeing as how the last post already mentioned Mynamar, I'm starting a war with the last poster.

Chad the Lad
12-29-2005, 12:37 PM
americans with goatee's

Sarky Devotchka
12-29-2005, 12:41 PM
I thought the russians were the bad guys until yakov smirnoff came around. Then in Spies Like Us, the Russians guarding the missile turn out to be nice.

this isn't helping.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 12:41 PM
Probably whoever their country's enemies are.

Isrealis/Palestinians
Indians/Pakistonians (or whatever)
Austrailians/New Zealanders

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 12:43 PM
I thought the russians were the bad guys until yakov smirnoff came around. Then in Spies Like Us, the Russians guarding the missile turn out to be nice.

this isn't helping.

Russians were still bad guys in the 80s, weren't they?

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 12:45 PM
Probably whoever their country's enemies are.

Isrealis/Palestinians
Indians/Pakistonians (or whatever)
Austrailians/New Zealanders

I don't always know who are enemies these days. The less obvious ones. Their kids DO have war games right? Do they fight other countries even if their country doesn't have an official enemy? Like, for example the Scottish children. They fight goateed americans?

Echewta
12-29-2005, 12:48 PM
When i was in Jr. High, I went to a Mickey Thompson offroad grandprix. For the first time, a Japanese driver was in the race. When they announced this, the crowd boo'd because you know, the Japanese were making quality products and we weren't during the 80s. I thought I was surrounded by idiots even with my basic education and young edge. I don't think I was shaving yet. I'm still surrounded by idiots though.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 12:48 PM
I think the Scottish kids still fight the british and crack on the irish but I'm not positive.

marsdaddy
12-29-2005, 12:53 PM
Anyone with a turban, living in a cave, or having oil money.

BangkokB
12-29-2005, 12:56 PM
Pearl Harbor is a love story (http://www.reneefrancis.com/lexigrams/images/BenAffleck.jpg)

Chad the Lad
12-29-2005, 12:57 PM
I think the Scottish kids still fight the british and crack on the irish but I'm not positive.

scottish people are british, think you mean english mate - thats always the same in most places though innit? north/south divides an that.

but yeah a lot of us scots hate the english.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 01:00 PM
scottish people are british, think you mean english mate - thats always the same in most places though innit? north/south divides an that.

but yeah a lot of us scots hate the english.

Yeah, that's what I meant. The English. I met an English guy from Northern Ireland in Thailand and he tried to explain it all to me. I'm from the U.S. so I just don't get it.

voltanapricot
12-29-2005, 01:07 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant. The English. I met an English guy from Northern Ireland in Thailand and he tried to explain it all to me. I'm from the U.S. so I just don't get it.
Did you mean British guy from N.Ireland?

England, Wales, Scotland, Nothern Ireland = Great Britain/UK

Then there's the Republic of Ireland. The Irish are lovable, says I being half Irish. I have never met an Englishman that could hate on the Irish although saying that everyone you bloody meet is a bit Irish anyway.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 01:15 PM
I thought Northern Ireland was kinda split between the English and the Irish, who are both british, am I right? Or are the Irish Celts? Anyway, either way this particular citizen of Northern Ireland was of English descent. And had an almost incomprehensible accent.

See, I just don't get it.

WillMac
12-29-2005, 01:19 PM
Northern Ireland is divided more by religion than anything else

voltanapricot
12-29-2005, 01:22 PM
Nah nah nah, Ireland is not British, Nothern Ireland is, see? (http://www.m-w.com/maps/images/maps/uk_map.gif) I'm not saying you've never seen a map before but eh...

It's funny how you guys get confused, though.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 02:36 PM
I'm not confused about the geography. I know where Ireland and Northern Ireland are. I'm confused about the ethnicity.

Sarky Devotchka
12-29-2005, 02:50 PM
Russians were still bad guys in the 80s, weren't they?

yeah, but mostly in spy movies it seemed. I don't know! I loved everyone!

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 03:07 PM
I'm not confused about the geography. I know where Ireland and Northern Ireland are. I'm confused about the ethnicity.

I was under the following impression: The northern Irish are mostly protestant from Britain and Scottland, are Unionists, part of the UK and wear orange on St Patrick's Day. Southern Irish are mostly catholic descendants of people who were settled there before English occupation, and part of the republic of Ireland, they're Nationalists and want British presence out of Ireland. And I was just joking about the orange on St. Patrick's and this is like a big sweeping generalization.

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 03:09 PM
British children pretend to defend their families against the nightly attacks of the mythic El-Chupacabrummy - a laid-off mine worker from Birmingham.

miss soul fire
12-29-2005, 03:12 PM
Hmm, definitely the aliens.

I liked this computer game (80386) that was about this indian boy and he had to climb the tree until he found the chief of the tribe. Ahh, it was so good. Those crazy animals on the tree. Cool. :o

Rock
12-29-2005, 03:27 PM
Pakistonians (or whatever)

Thats awesome.

I don't think I ever did the other country war things. We were always from other planets with super abilities and what not. Although once I did play crab soccer and it was Maryland vs. Virginia. I think that was the closest I got to real territorial battle.

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 03:53 PM
We were just xenophobic children in immature tune with global affairs.
I would have preferred to act out soap operatic dramas with my dolls.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 03:56 PM
In my childhood war games, all of the bad guys were from Spokane (read: armpit of the US).

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 03:58 PM
I bet Spokane's no worse than Peoria.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 04:00 PM
I was gonna make a snappy remark but I'd rather just chuckle.

Haha. Peoria.

Nuzzolese
12-29-2005, 04:05 PM
I don't get the joke. I'm not trying to be defensive, I just don't get it. I'm sorry. I've lived here for three years and I don't think it's that bad. People who live here complain about it and think it's shit, same with people outside of it. And I just can't get offended or whatever I'm supposed to do to react to complaints about it. It's just a town. I think it's alright.

hpdrifter
12-29-2005, 04:07 PM
No, I was just going to comment about Sokane being worse but anyway...

Its all in good fun. There are nice people everywhere.

I'm from Tacoma, I can't crack on any city.

j-dog
12-29-2005, 04:36 PM
but yeah a lot of us scots hate the english.
same goes for a lot of us irish. well, it's more the government. as i guess it is in other similar scenarios.

b-grrrlie
12-29-2005, 04:45 PM
When I was a kid in Finland the guys fought mainly Germans or Russians. But that comes from WWII and the winter war were even my grandpa fought. Otherwise it was cowboys and indians.

tracky
12-29-2005, 06:40 PM
It was all about M16's and jungles for us, so i'm gonna go with a vietnamese enemy

SobaViolence
12-29-2005, 07:58 PM
it was either the americans or the english.

being of such a high pedigree like I, anyone who had money was my enemy. but mostly white people.

Kid Presentable
12-29-2005, 11:07 PM
In Athens they played Olympians and Albanians.

guerillaGardner
12-30-2005, 10:17 AM
I don't always know who are enemies these days. The less obvious ones. Their kids DO have war games right? Do they fight other countries even if their country doesn't have an official enemy? Like, for example the Scottish children. They fight goateed americans?

In Scotland, when I was a kid it was the Germans because even in the seventies most of the comic books were still about the second world war (wuudye believe?)

These days it would probably be non-specified middle eastern types (thanks to George W Bush and his cronies)

Russians were baddies a bit when I was younger. To an extent the English were baddies but not in a play way. But before the English on this board go into a frenzy I think a lot of Scottish people are starting to realise we are own worst enemy at times - or at least anyone with a burberry cap is our worst enemy.

TurdBerglar
12-30-2005, 10:39 AM
when ever we played cops and robber type games we just grouped ourselves together according to if we were white, black or puero rican. for some reason us whiteboys were always the badguys

roosta
12-30-2005, 10:49 AM
to explain Ireland..

Ireland used to be just mainly Irish/catholic, then the British invaded, and kicked us off the land and made us work on plantations etc., didn't let us practise Catholicism etc. and ruled us from Britain.

Then a resistance movement started, and eventually a War of Independence broke out. By this stage alot of protestants had moved over, mainly up north. As part of the treaty to end the war, the 26 southern counties were handed back to our rule, but the British kept the 6 northern counties (Northern Ireland).

Then a civil war broke out down south, then mainly things settled down.

Then in the late 60s, catholics up north were getting treated like second class citizens, and a civil rights movement started. This was supressed by the british army and the IRA were re-started in order to fight a guerilla war to re-unify Ireland.

There was then 30 years of war/terror/trouble/strife.

Then there was a peace process, and a devolved government up there, and the IRA decommisioned/disbanded. its still a big mess, but its a political mess and not a fighting mess anymore.

So, yeah, the enemies were always the brits.

paul jones
12-30-2005, 10:54 AM
I used to pretend with a kid in the street that we were Starsky & Hutch, Han Solo and Chewbacca etc etc

Once a few of us pretended that we were on the moon and that the moon was earth,but now the moon had modern housing and that every person we saw would be one of those apes in leather from planet of the apes so we had to avoid being seen by them

Also a group of us pretended to be Gandalf ,Bilbo and the dwarves escaping the goblins and orcs on a building site and we had to make it to some tree called Gandalf's tree

Otis Driftwood
12-30-2005, 11:32 AM
Growin up on the good side of the iron curtain in WEST Germany the bad guys were East Germans. Like a good beer gone stale they were very alike us but totally bad and evil....

Chad the Lad
12-30-2005, 01:32 PM
- or at least anyone with a burberry cap is our worst enemy.

too true mate DOWN WITH THE NEDS!!!!

zippo
12-30-2005, 05:02 PM
I used to pretend with a kid in the street that we were Starsky & Hutch, Han Solo and Chewbacca etc etc

Once a few of us pretended that we were on the moon and that the moon was earth,but now the moon had modern housing and that every person we saw would be one of those apes in leather from planet of the apes so we had to avoid being seen by them

Also a group of us pretended to be Gandalf ,Bilbo and the dwarves escaping the goblins and orcs on a building site and we had to make it to some tree called Gandalf's tree

haha paul, youre like the drunk in a party thats passed out while everyones still talking and hanging out and you sporadically lift your face up from the couch where its buried in to say something so random its funny

marsdaddy
12-30-2005, 05:09 PM
What do you mean Paul is like the drunk at a party? He IS the drunk at this party. True, he is funny.

zippo
12-30-2005, 05:13 PM
and yea, i think it depends alot on what countries they have fought against or had issues with, like i think the kids in Argentina would "fight" against the biritish because of the Malvinas war, at least in Quino´s comics, Mafalda and her friends always did, maybe that reflected his childhood somehow.

i also think it could depend on what type of social economic class the kids are from inside that country.

i think now though, Kill Bush could become one of the most popular childrens game worldwide, no joke.

DroppinScience
12-30-2005, 05:15 PM
Growing up, I don't think we played games where villains were specific nations or anything, despite the obvious Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia stuff...

It was mostly just "Cowboys and Indians" or "Cops and Robbers"...

icy manipulator
01-05-2006, 01:15 AM
Probably whoever their country's enemies are.


Austrailians/New Zealanders
hahaha

bloody kiwi's hahahaa