Seriously, what is wrong with men?

[Sarky Devotchka]

so, new year's, hmph. I made a fancy dress I was proud of, but most of the parties we went to were a bust...I kissed Naked Man and some other boys on the lips and dirty danced and showed my boob, but otherwise I got no actual action.

After midnight, we left this party that had way too many chicks to go to a party closer to our house where the 31 Year Old Who Has a Crush on Me But Has a Girlfriend (we'll call him "Nathan") was DJing. Some of our other good friends were there and they were like, "heyyy, nathan's here, oh, but so is his girlfriend". There were tons of beautiful boys there though, so I didn't really sweat it. I danced and danced. When Nathan saw me, he came out from behind the turntables and put his arm around me and danced with me for a bit and whispered "you look great in your dress tonight". and I was like, "gahhhh!" Then I flirted with some other boys, but the whiskey began to take hold and I started to get sloppy and figured I better go home. My friend C2 was going to walk me home, but before that he was like "hey, you know you're way hotter than Nathan's girl, but I like her, she's nice." and I was like, "uh, okay".

so drunky (me) decides to go over to him. It was dark and hot and loud and I went over to him and he put his arm around me and we pressed against eachother embracing cheek to cheek to shout into eachothers ears and it went like this:

me: word on the street is, you have a crush on me.

him: yes, I do, I have a huge crush on you.

me: and you have a girlfriend!

him: I do. I don't know what to do.

me: I have a crush on you too, so this is terrible

him: you're so hot, you're so fucking hot, when I see you, I'm like, oh my god, she's so hot. but I have a girlfriend, I don't know what to do, what am I supposed to do?

me: I don't know, I hate you.

him: you're so hot, and beyond that our conversations are great, I have had the best conversations with you, when we talk, it's better than with her.

me: I hate you.

then yadda yadda, he says they have a great relationship and he's a nice guy and he can't leave her, but he wants to be good friends with me. and our faces were so close, we kept switching ears, we were holding eachother so tight, so natural, so fucking hot. with his girlfriend 4 feet away.

so I left, and I lost it. I was sobbing in the street yelling, "I need a cigarette!" ha ha. So cort and I went home all drunk with only eachother. and a $7 pack of smokes. oh whiskey. oh men.

[mikizee]

so whats the problem with men?? that they are faithful? sorry.

the problem with women is that they talk too much. sometimes my gf will be like 'blah blah blah blah blah' about some inane bullshit, and i have to tell her to be quiet. it doesnt work tho. happy new year tho!

[GreenEarthAl]

Yet another problem I'm glad I'll never have.

[BionicEye]

Seriously, what is wrong with men?

women. that's what. but why do they have to be so hot and have boobies and crap?

[Ace42X]

Seriously, what is wrong with men?

women. that's what. but why do they have to be so hot and have boobies and crap?

Can I get a hell yeah over here?

OH HELL YEAH!

[paul jones]

I fell asleep in the pub and can't remember the 'countdown'

there's was lots of women in the pub too,damn!

[Knuckles]

That guy sounds like a loser sarky. (n)

I don't understand why men (and women) just don't end their current relationship when it gets to the point that they are interested in someone else.

[Ace42X]

I don't understand why men (and women) just don't end their current relationship when it gets to the point that they are interested in someone else.

I'd never enter a relationship if that were the case.

[Loppfessor]

That guy sounds like a loser sarky. (n)



That's true, but she't not sounding so hot either by getting all drunk and hitting on a dude with a girlfriend. People always try to justify stealing somone because they claim to be so unhappy. I'd bet money he's just try to play her so he can get her into bed.

[kaiser soze]

it's ok sarky, you'll be interested in someone else in 10 minutes and that loser will be history!

[fucktopgirl]

So the girlfreind was 4 feet away,,damn that is really shitty !You just dont go after guy who have girlfriend,cuz one day a girl gona do the same thing to you so,,move on,,the guy is taking,find one who is free of duty!!

[kaiser soze]

you know what they say....

Duty Free Men Do It Best!

[GreenEarthAl]

I don't understand why men (and women) just don't end their current relationship when it gets to the point that they are interested in someone else.

:eek: EEK! What a horrible idea. What if they are still interested in the first person?

[adam_f]

Then you're shit out of luck, apparently.

[mickill]

So the girlfreind was 4 feet away,,damn that is really shitty !You just dont go after guy who have girlfriend,cuz one day a girl gona do the same thing to you so,,move on,,the guy is taking,find one who is free of duty!!
You took the words right out of my mouth...and jumbled them around a little...and added a few too many commas....and mixed up a few of the tenses....and maybe phrased things a little differently....but you took the words right out of my mouth!

[YoungRemy]

the problem with women is that they talk too much

[alexandra]

^ i can also agree with that.
You took the words right out of my mouth...and jumbled them around a little...and added a few too many commas....and mixed up a few of the tenses....and maybe phrased things a little differently....but you took the words right out of my mouth!
hahah.

[DandyFop]

Sarky it seems like you might be one of those people who says they hate drama but then finds a way to create it/be involved with it all the time. Maybe you don't say you hate it, but regardless, from what you say you seem to continuously put yourself in situations that aren't going to work out in your favor. This guy sounds like a sleazebag. Think about if you were his girlfriend. Believe me, I know how you feel, when I get caught up in the moment such as the one you were in, I easily forget consequences and other people's feelings, but if you're really looking to find a good guy, someone who's gonna grind your 4 feet away from his s.o. doesn't seem like the best choice. But as someone said, you seem to get crushes pretty easily so I wouldn't sweat it.

[marsdaddy]

Too many women, not enough time?

[ASsman]

Tell me about it.

Lucky son of a bitch, in a sense, in another he's fucked. Ironically you are not... hah..hah..sorry

[Sarky Devotchka]

hey! we weren't grinding! and I wasn't even hitting on him, I just felt like I wanted to tell him that I liked him back, I couldn't hold it in anymore. I guess what I wrote sounds bad because he kept saying, "you're so hot" over and over, but really I think it was just because he had been holding it inside for a long time and it all came tumbling out at once. I had to pop the tension bubble, it was just hanging there.

you know, I'm making light of this situation, but it's actually pretty sad all around. I have mature, reasonable feelings for this person, I don't want to ruin his relationship or hurt his girlfriend in any way. All we've ever done is talk, we don't even flirt. He's been a perfect gentleman up until that night...and he didn't even do anything then but say words and embrace me. it wasn't like he was rubbing his weiner on my butt.

I'd just for once like something to be nice and plain. I'm not purposely putting myself in drama situations, this just happened to me, and it's not like I'm going avoid hanging out with my friends at a good party just because he's there too.

but, yeah, I either just ruined everything, jumpstarted something, or my life will just clatter on as usual until the next boy breaks my heart.

[BionicEye]

it's ok sarky, you'll be interested in someone else in 10 minutes and that loser will be history!

[paul jones]

hey! we weren't grinding! and I wasn't even hitting on him, I just felt like I wanted to tell him that I liked him back, I couldn't hold it in anymore. I guess what I wrote sounds bad because he kept saying, "you're so hot" over and over, but really I think it was just because he had been holding it inside for a long time and it all came tumbling out at once. I had to pop the tension bubble, it was just hanging there.

you know, I'm making light of this situation, but it's actually pretty sad all around. I have mature, reasonable feelings for this person, I don't want to ruin his relationship or hurt his girlfriend in any way. All we've ever done is talk, we don't even flirt. He's been a perfect gentleman up until that night...and he didn't even do anything then but say words and embrace me. it wasn't like he was rubbing his weiner on my butt.

I'd just for once like something to be nice and plain. I'm not purposely putting myself in drama situations, this just happened to me, and it's not like I'm going avoid hanging out with my friends at a good party just because he's there too.

but, yeah, I either just ruined everything, jumpstarted something, or my life will just clatter on as usual until the next boy breaks my heart.


I know how you feel Sarky, about being led on. It totally fucked my xmas up but life goes on :) (y)

[Sarky Devotchka]

you guys just think I have a lot of crushes because I've been talking about each one on here for years. however, I've really only had a few:

Neighbor Boy
Punk Rock Boy
Naked Man
Naked Man's Friend
Bathroom Boy
Rolling Stone Boy
31 Year Old

so...like 7, over 5 years. that's not very many at all, jerks!

[DandyFop]

Yes but you could avoid drama by not saying things like "hey i've got a huge crush on you too". See how that works?

I'm not trying to pass judgement on you or some bullshit, you know how to handle yourself, I'm just saying that you play an active role in these situations. To me, him embracing you and saying what he did is just as bad as gettin freaky witchu on the dance floor.

[mickill]

he was rubbing his weiner on my butt.

Oh jeez. I didn't even read that last thing you posted, but this part jumped out at me. This is so not cool. He has a girlfriend. I'm sure I'll be reminded of this everytime I come across one of your posts. And I'll think about what an awful thing you did. And I will judge you. Forever.

[Echewta]

it wasn't like he was rubbing his weiner on my butt.

I wish you would have said "buns" instead of "butt" because I would have laughed a lot.

[Sarky Devotchka]

Yes but you could avoid drama by not saying things like "hey i've got a huge crush on you too". See how that works?

I'm not trying to pass judgement on you or some bullshit, you know how to handle yourself, I'm just saying that you play an active role in these situations. To me, him embracing you and saying what he did is just as bad as gettin freaky witchu on the dance floor.

there wasn't any drama really. I just cried is all. I drank too much. and I didn't say "huge". and really, why can't I say that? I'm getting too old to not say what I feel. I just wanted him to know, and yes, I was being selfish, but I don't think pretending nothing was happening did anybody any good.

[Sarky Devotchka]

I wish you would have said "buns" instead of "butt" because I would have laughed a lot.

you want to put your weiner in hamburglar's buns.

[Rancid_Beasties]

you want to put your weiner in hamburglar's buns.
I like that one, classy (y)

[Echewta]

no i dont :(

[Qdrop]

and really, why can't I say that? I'm getting too old to not say what I feel. actually, you're getting too old TO always say what you feel. with age comes wisdom....the wisdom of knowing when to just let things go and not vocalize them.

I just wanted him to know, and yes, I was being selfish, but I don't think pretending nothing was happening did anybody any good....you got a ways to go...
good luck.

[monkey]

i remember once when i made a similarly titled thread, i had cosmo and dandyfop and stuff telling me "obviously, it's not that men are jerks, it's that you pick the wrong ones!" except, they said it not as nicely.

maybe they should say that again?

[cookiepuss]

might I just add that the grass always appears greener on the otherside of the barbed wire fence.

I suspect that the reason everything is so "hot" between you and Mr. Dj with a girlfriend, is the fact that you both want to taste a little of the forbidden fruit.

[Echewta]

I seem to always like to mow the lawn i have. Even if it hasn't been watered in awhile and the papers are piling up.

[DandyFop]

there wasn't any drama really. I just cried is all. I drank too much. and I didn't say "huge". and really, why can't I say that? I'm getting too old to not say what I feel. I just wanted him to know, and yes, I was being selfish, but I don't think pretending nothing was happening did anybody any good.

Yes but it created the situation now for every time you see him. You know what I mean. And the fact that you didn't say "huge" doesn't matter, you get the gist. I mean duh you can say whatever you want but I've learned that more often (much more often) times it helps to not say it if it's not going to lead anywhere. I'm someone who can't hold back anything but that doesn't mean that I'm mature, and it certainly hasn't helped me with a lot of the guys I've liked. You seem to be on the defensive about this, and like I said I'm not trying to attack you because I like you, I find you to be an interesting, perty, creative lady from what I've seen here.

[marsdaddy]

I seem to always like to mow the lawn i have. Even if it hasn't been watered in awhile and the papers are piling up.Metaphorically speaking, you should get out more.

[Qdrop]

Dandy is on fuckin point.
word.

[marsdaddy]

Dandy is on fuckin point.
word.This place is circular. Is she no longer oversexed?

[Nuzzolese]

You have all the crushes, you cry all the tears, you drink too much and get played around only to always helplessly wonder What is Wrong With Men, Seriously? Poor, plucky 'Sarky', whose desperate need for romance is her own tragic undoing. Starring Christina Ricci, Jake Gyllenhaal, Sam Rockwell, Colin Firth, Jack Black, Rachel McAdams, and Parker Posey. (y)

[Echewta]

Metaphorically speaking, you should get out more.

Believe me, I would love to be a gardner or be in the landscaping field.

[Nuzzolese]

Believe me, I would love to be a gardner or be in the landscaping field.

Tending so many different yards gets you pretty dirty though.

[ASsman]

I'm hispanic so I already qualify, just have to work on my bod. Housewifes will melt in my hands.

[Echewta]

Tending so many different yards gets you pretty dirty though.

Even with one yard, I'm pretty dirty. I work hard and like to leave the homeowner satisfied.

[Qdrop]

This place is circular. Is she no longer oversexed?

well, more so that she speaks from experiance.....
so her words are gold.

[Qdrop]

You have all the crushes, you cry all the tears, you drink too much and get played around only to always helplessly wonder What is Wrong With Men, Seriously? Poor, plucky 'Sarky', whose desperate need for romance is her own tragic undoing. Starring Christina Ricci, Jake Gyllenhaal, Sam Rockwell, Colin Firth, Jack Black, Rachel McAdams, and Parker Posey. (y)

are you gonna relegate Jack Black to the "funny sidekick" role?

man...he's so past that, nuzz.

[Nuzzolese]

are you gonna relegate Jack Black to the "funny sidekick" role?

man...he's so past that, nuzz.

We appreciate your interest in this film but we're not longer officially acknowledging any script or casting offers now that we've secured a screenwriter.

[Qdrop]

We appreciate your interest in this film but we're not longer officially acknowledging any script or casting offers now that we've secured a screenwriter.

you are so getting snubbed by the golden globes...


you've been warned.

[Nuzzolese]

That would be an expensive cast though. You always start bidding high, I guess. Then work your way down. By the time we chose a wardrobe consultant it'll be Culkans and Wayanses, and Sarky will be played by Raven Simone.

[kaiser soze]

I would love to be an extra

[Nuzzolese]

You can be Guy Who Stares at Sarky's Cleavage or Naked Guy's Roommate.

[kaiser soze]

cleavage please (y)

[beastieangel01]

That guy sounds like a loser sarky. (n)

I don't understand why men (and women) just don't end their current relationship when it gets to the point that they are interested in someone else.

indeed!

[DandyFop]

This place is circular. Is she no longer oversexed?

me oversexed :confused:

[cosmo105]

fried orca

[Sarky Devotchka]

bah, I just made "seriously, what is wrong with men" the title because I knew people would look at it. ha! I tricked all of you!

I guess I am being defensive, only because the situation is not as dramatic as it seems. And he's not a jerk. It's not like he's married or even living with her. And we were drunk because it was new year's eve and everyone was drunk, and I cried because I was frustrated and drunk.

Can any of you honestly say that you've never been attracted to another person while in a relationship? I have, and if that person knew it and liked me back, I would've most likely ended my relationship...when that happened to me, I started questioning why I was in the relationship and eventually things fizzled out. My last boyfriend broke up with his girlfriend because he started having feelings for me, but he didn't even know that I liked him back at all. He just knew it wasn't right with the girl he was with. And then, even though we started dating a couple of months after that for a long time and even discussed marriage, I knew that it wasn't right between us after awhile and ended it. We wanted it to work so bad, but it just couldn't.

I just think that people should say what they feel and not be in a relationship just to be in one. If you're thinking of other people, or starting to doubt things...then get out of it. So that's why I'm frustrated. Jesus, it would be awful to be her, I know this. I know that she loves him, I can tell by her actions and what she says, I know he doesn't want to break her heart...but that can't be the reason people stay together.

I'm not even saying that if they do break up, that I'm thinking we would automatically fall in love and live happily ever after. I'm not even the same kind of person she is...she works his bands' merch tables, helps him with his records...hangs out with her girl friends and chats...acts like a dutiful girlfriend. maybe he likes that. Not that I can't be helpful, I'd just rather be dancing or mucking it up with the boys. which, I guess could be my problem. I'm actually a boy. A boy with boobs that sometimes wears make up and heels and makes dresses.

[kaiser soze]

wait...

you have a penis?

[Sarky Devotchka]

yes :( but it's huge. (y)

[Nuzzolese]

Can any of you honestly say that you've never been attracted to another person while in a relationship? I have, and if that person knew it and liked me back, I would've most likely ended my relationship...when that happened to me, I started questioning why I was in the relationship and eventually things fizzled out. My last boyfriend broke up with his girlfriend because he started having feelings for me, but he didn't even know that I liked him back at all. He just knew it wasn't right with the girl he was with. And then, even though we started dating a couple of months after that for a long time and even discussed marriage, I knew that it wasn't right between us after awhile and ended it. We wanted it to work so bad, but it just couldn't.

I just think that people should say what they feel and not be in a relationship just to be in one. If you're thinking of other people, or starting to doubt things...then get out of it. So that's why I'm frustrated. Jesus, it would be awful to be her, I know this. I know that she loves him, I can tell by her actions and what she says, I know he doesn't want to break her heart...but that can't be the reason people stay together.

Bail out at the mere suggestion of doubt and straying eyes? Yeesh, how does anyone stay together? Only through fair weather?

[Qdrop]

Bail out at the mere suggestion of doubt and straying eyes? Yeesh, how does anyone stay together? Only through fair weather?

yeah, that's pretty sad.

finding someone else attractive is certainly no reason to end your current relationship.
if that was the case, there would BE NO relationships.

it is perfectly natural to find other people attractive while you within a relationship.
temptation is natural too.
everybody in relationship meets or sees people from time to time that they find attractive, interesting....they think "gee, i wonder what it would be like with that person".
but again, that (in and of itself) is no reason to end your current relationship.
anyone who thinks otherwise is quite obviously speaking from a LACK of experiance and maturity.

the true maturity of such situations appears when, even though you see/meet other people you are attracted to....you REALIZE that is only a fantasy-an unrealistic and overly positive vision.
and you REALIZE that what you have currently is real and (assuming that THAT relationship is working and fullfilling) focus on being content and happy with what you have.

the grass is always greener on the otherside....until you realize you'd have to mow that grass too....

i again suspect that Sarky has a LONG way to go in understanding herself and her relationships.....she actually seems a litte behind in the game- considering her age....
these are things you should have come to grips with in highschool or shortly after.
coming into you mid-20's and still falling victim to the "grass is always greener/ i got another crush" mentality is kinda sad.

[Qdrop]

Hmm...Let me see if I can help. *Puts on "Editor" hat and pulls out internet scissors*...

*Snip* *Snip* *Snip*



There, much better.

don't edit my work.

[Qdrop]

*Snip*



:D

Toucan?

[Nuzzolese]

Okay, sometimes a concise, general statement in one sentence is not always the best! It comes off as condescending and generalizing when it lacks further explanation and examples. I mean, explaining your opinions is just polite when declaring what might be taken as harsh judgement. If you can't read it then it probably wasn't meant for you anyway and you're clearly too busy to bother with such long winded posts.

[Nuzzolese]

But Q was being condescending, I just thought I would help me him out. I don't think that was any reason for him to call me a foul name. :(

Yes, he was being condescending, but you made him sound even worse, like a condescending person who didn't put much thought into it. Normally I think the basic harmonies of language result in poetry when condensed to their perfect bouquet of vocabulary, but that doesn't mean they're friendly. People would dismiss it if it was too short. Having the ability to type a long post is something like impressive around here. So, anyway, about the hot duders with gfs?

[Qdrop]

But Q was being condescending, I just thought I would help me him out. I don't think that was any reason for him to call me a foul name. :(

how was i being condescending?
i was just telling like it is.

refusing to pussy foot around and coddle someones feelings (what pansies call "being polite") doesn't automatically make me condescending...

[Nuzzolese]

He probably doesn't want to be with her anyway, she's one of those hanging-out merch type girls, and anyway he does find other women attractive. I think I'll take it upon myself to help him out of that sitch.

If a man wants out of his relationship does he need someone to come rescue him from his girlfriend? Some guys act like they do. "I'm trying to break up with her but she keeps calling me and giving me gifts. She keeps coming over." Yeah. okay. You work on that. Come find me when you've dumped her.

[Nuzzolese]

how was i being condescending?
i was just telling like it is.

refusing to pussy foot around and coddle someones feelings (what pansies call "being polite") doesn't automatically make me condescending...

Well, you called her immature and sad. And being polite is not being weak, it's being considerate. Why is consideration shameful?

[hpdrifter]

I'm guessing you'll find yourself in the same situation she's in months from now. You'll get with this guy, hopefully after he breaks up with his girlfriend, and in a couple of months he'll start talking to some other girl about how he really likes her but he's got this girlfriend who is really in love with him and he can't hurt her...

[Nuzzolese]

Let's look at this from the guy's perspective. If we want to know what's wrong with him, we have to know what he's going through. So, he's this really caring sweet guy who never wants to hurt anyone's feelings, and he has such a big heart that he has enough adoration for lots of girls. Also, he says how he feels, because he doesn't worry about consequences because life's too short to keep feelings all bottled up. He has this blessing/curse of being charming and having a high libido, so he ends up with too many girls liking him at once and him liking too many girls at once and damnit he's a young DJ party guy why shouldn't he be able to flirt with other girls?! He's losing his hair and one day there won't be so many hot chicks in dresses standing around the DJ booth and then he'll look back on these days and say why didn't I just tell her I had a crush on her?

[Qdrop]

Well, you called her immature and sad. why must the truth be inconsiderate.
wouldn't lying or sugar-coating something be more inconsiderate? particularly if the person may NEED to hear the harsh truth to initiate real reflecting.

And being polite is not being weak, it's being considerate. Why is consideration shameful? see above....but that really is a grey issue.

[Qdrop]

I'm guessing you'll find yourself in the same situation she's in months from now. You'll get with this guy, hopefully after he breaks up with his girlfriend, and in a couple of months he'll start talking to some other girl about how he really likes her but he's got this girlfriend who is really in love with him and he can't hurt her...

Karma.

[Nuzzolese]

why must the truth be inconsiderate.
wouldn't lying or sugar-coating something be more inconsiderate? particularly if the person may NEED to hear the harsh truth to initiate real reflecting.

see above....but that really is a grey issue.

So, what you're basically saying here is that you think you should be able to say what you think of people, regardless of how it might make them feel. How mature. And you take it upon yourself to try to guide people towards the direction you think they need to go, like Sarky wants to guide this guy from his gf she doesn't think is good enough for him.

[Qdrop]

Let's look at this from the guy's perspective. If we want to know what's wrong with him, we have to know what he's going through. So, he's this really caring sweet guy who never wants to hurt anyone's feelings, and he has such a big heart that he has enough adoration for lots of girls. Also, he says how he feels, because he doesn't worry about consequences because life's too short to keep feelings all bottled up. He has this blessing/curse of being charming and having a high libido, so he ends up with too many girls liking him at once and him liking too many girls at once and damnit he's a young DJ party guy why shouldn't he be able to flirt with other girls?! He's losing his hair and one day there won't be so many hot chicks in dresses standing around the DJ booth and then he'll look back on these days and say why didn't I just tell her I had a crush on her?

oh, you make it sound so fatalist.....like if he DOESN'T hook up with as many chicks as he can, he'll regret it....

gee maybe he might regret not concentrating more on mature, long-term relationships..rather than flings...
particually if he let someone really good go in the process....

[Nuzzolese]

actually, you're getting too old TO always say what you feel. with age comes wisdom....the wisdom of knowing when to just let things go and not vocalize them.

So I take it this only applies to those times when you have a crush on someone, and not to those times when you have critical opinions?

[hpdrifter]

Karma.

Its not karma, its just people are who they are. And its pure hubris on Sarky's part to think that she'll be the magical wonderful one who will lock him down.

[Nuzzolese]

oh, you make it sound so fatalist.....like if he DOESN'T hook up with as many chicks as he can, he'll regret it....

gee maybe he might regret not concentrating more on mature, long-term relationships..rather than flings...
particually if he let someone really good go in the process....

I'm just trying to imagine what he might be thinking.

[Nuzzolese]

Qdrop I agree with most everything you've said in this thread; about knowing when to not say what you feel, about knowing how to control attraction to others while in a relationship, about the value of fidelity. I'm just trying to balance the responses here so it's not all "Sarky, you ignorant whore" More than I care about Sarky as a person, I care about a sense of balance here. I don't know why, it's my way.

[Echewta]

I care about Cort as a person. Thats about it.

[Qdrop]

So I take it this only applies to those times when you have a crush on someone, and not to those times when you have critical opinions?

correct.

[Qdrop]

And you take it upon yourself to try to guide people towards the direction you think they need to go, like Sarky wants to guide this guy from his gf she doesn't think is good enough for him.

2 very differant circumstances, as anyone could objectively see.

plus, i'm alot smarter than sarky.

[Qdrop]

Its not karma, its just people are who they are. And its pure hubris on Sarky's part to think that she'll be the magical wonderful one who will lock him down.

that's a chick for ya...

[hpdrifter]

I'm a girl and I don't think this way.

[bigblu89]

I wish my life was half the soap opera that it is for some of you.

[Qdrop]

I'm a girl and I don't think this way.

teach them...
teach them all.


and have lots of kids.
spread your genes.

[Nuzzolese]

correct.

In both cases - Sarky telling the guy about her crush on him and you telling Sarky about how relationships really work - you are bluntly expressing an opinion you feel strongly about as fact, and your intention is to improve the situation of the other person by giving them information that you hope will influence them to change their behavior. You both get some satisfaction out of delivering the information, and you are both careless about how this information will be received.

[Qdrop]

I wish my life was half the soap opera that it is for some of you.

are you insane?


by the way...
i got that tennessee helmet on display in my new sports den (still in the biulding phase)....looks fantastic.
got a clear case for it and everything...

[Nuzzolese]

plus, i'm alot smarter than sarky.

I don't think you're of stronger character than she is, and isn't that what we're really talking about here? Not just smarts and wisdom but integrity and character, knowing right from wrong? She's inconsiderate about his relationship, you're inconsiderate about her feelings.

[Qdrop]

In both cases - Sarky telling the guy about her crush on him and you telling Sarky about how relationships really work - you are bluntly expressing an opinion you feel strongly about as fact, and your intention is to improve the situation of the other person by giving them information that you hope will influence them to change their behavior. You both get some satisfaction out of delivering the information, and you are both careless about how this information will be received.

but consider the intended outcome of both.

give a objective opinion on which is more ethical and beneficial to the parties involved...

and YES, that does matter...
and NO, i am not missing your point.

you are speaking of principle.
i am speaking of practicality.

[GreenEarthAl]

Let's look at this from the guy's perspective. If we want to know what's wrong with him, we have to know what he's going through. So, he's this really caring sweet guy who never wants to hurt anyone's feelings, and he has such a big heart that he has enough adoration for lots of girls. Also, he says how he feels, because he doesn't worry about consequences because life's too short to keep feelings all bottled up. He has this blessing/curse of being charming and having a high libido, so he ends up with too many girls liking him at once and him liking too many girls at once and damnit he's a young DJ party guy why shouldn't he be able to flirt with other girls?! He's losing his hair and one day there won't be so many hot chicks in dresses standing around the DJ booth and then he'll look back on these days and say why didn't I just tell her I had a crush on her?

He should become polyamorous. Save him a lot of trouble.

[hpdrifter]

I hate soap opera shit, its hard enough for me to concentrate at work without thinking about pointless, petty drama.

I mean, the occasional argument with the boyfriend makes for some awesome make-up sex but generally I prefer smooth sailing. I'm a lover not a fighter.

[Qdrop]

I don't think you're of stronger character than she is, and isn't that what we're really talking about here? Not just smarts and wisdom but integrity and character, knowing right from wrong? She's inconsiderate about his relationship, you're inconsiderate about her feelings.

again, two very differant circumstances.

apples and oranges, nuzz.

[Qdrop]

He should become polyamorous. Save him a lot of trouble.

says you.

the majority of society, psychology, and evolutionary history of the pair bond says otherwise.

[Nuzzolese]

but consider the intended outcome of both.


Her intention is a lot more selfish than yours. Sorry, I mean alot more selfish. I hate seeing people with crushes who want to do all kinds of things they think will be special to the object of their desire but when you really think about it are more for the indulgence of the crusher and his or her feelings. Like, big romantic gestures or the surprise meeting. That feels romantic to the person who has the crush, but unless they know the other person will return their feelings, it's kind of inconsiderate (oh shit, manners again!) to do something that could potentially make them uncomfortable. Women aren't won over just by romantic gestures alone. And some guys don't seem to get that and then they cry and whine "I did everything for that girl I got her flowers I took her out, I even travelled across the country to sing her a song I wrote for her - and she STILL rejected me!"

[Nuzzolese]

Damn it. I am not as smart as you. I thought judging and degrading someone for your own enjoyment was being condescending. You weren't trying to be rude or make fun of her, you were sincerely trying to help. My bad.

It's tough love, like drill seargents in your face. "Get some self esteem and learn to keep your own boyfriend and you might just graduate from turd to maggot!"

[GreenEarthAl]

says you.

Yep. S'who said it.

the majority of society, psychology, and evolutionary history of the pair bond says otherwise.

I'm sorry. I'm having trouble translating "blah, blah, blah" language today.

[fucktopgirl]

So basically, Q is like the "Dr. Phil" of the board?


haha,what a 'not' nice comparison!I am shure the rate of suicide is higher since Dr Phil is giving advice!

[Knuckles]

He should become polyamorous. Save him a lot of trouble.


I think it's great that the polyamorous thing works for you GEA but I don't think it's the best idea for most people.

[hpdrifter]

So basically, Q is like the "Dr. Phil" of the board?

Dude, this will be my new signature.

So true! Get real people, get real.

[hpdrifter]

I think it's great that the polyamorous thing works for you GEA but I don't think it's the best idea for most people.

I don't think I could do it. I think its great for those that can control their jealousy and insecurity. I am, sadly, not one of those people.

[Nuzzolese]

I don't think I could do it. I think its great for those that can control their jealousy and insecurity. I am, sadly, not one of those people.

Ditto. Plus I would just feel scattered and romantically homeless, like a romantic squatter, just shacking up my romance and affection with anything nearby that was comfortable for the time being. Maybe GEA is stronger than we are, becuase I have to be someone's one and only or just friends. Maybe Sarky is stronger too, because she can kiss and sleep with all these guys and it's so casual, she doesn't feel spread thin or overly exposed.

[Kid Presentable]

I don't miss this scene of fuckwitted half-relationships, and sexless meanderings.

It makes me remember how pathetic I truly was as a yougster, all I can say to Sarky is you'll either grow out of it and be happy, then get divorced; or you'll learn to suppress it, think you're happy and later on get a divorce.

[Qdrop]

It's tough love, like drill seargents in your face. "Get some self esteem and learn to keep your own boyfriend and you might just graduate from turd to maggot!"

at ease, soldier.

well done.

[Qdrop]

So basically, Q is like the "Dr. Phil" of the board?

so basically....shut up.

[hpdrifter]

so basically....shut up.

Oh come on, that was funny.

[Qdrop]

Maybe GEA is stronger than we are, becuase I have to be someone's one and only or just friends. Maybe Sarky is stronger too, because she can kiss and sleep with all these guys and it's so casual, she doesn't feel spread thin or overly exposed.

see, i think they are both WEAKER. they engage in this activity because they are too weak willed to stay monogomous, too selfish,....unable to mentally deal with tempation.
unable to stay fullfilled, satisfied.

[GreenEarthAl]

I think it's great that the polyamorous thing works for you GEA but I don't think it's the best idea for most people.

It just seemed like she was describing a scenario where, at least, the fellow would be benefitted by knowing the option existed.

[THRILLHO]

You just need to acknowledge that everybody is fucked up and worth nothing but contempt deep down.

Women view men as a source of safety and protection, and in turn value the power that men seem to possess. It is this power which allows men to fuck women.

Men view women as trophies, painted dolls of perfection with no natural gasses which reflect their own personal worth. It is the potential to increase this personal worth that men covet most.

[hpdrifter]

oh dear

[Qdrop]

:(

Ohhhh...more "tough love"! Thank yew kindly thar "Dr. Q"

so you gonna learn from it, or keep acting like a jackass?

keep my name off your posts.
you're really annoying me as of late.

[GreenEarthAl]

see, i think they are both WEAKER. they engage in this activity because they are too weak willed to stay monogomous, too selfish,....unable to mentally deal with tempation.
unable to stay fullfilled, satisfied.

Wow. That is the absolute wrongest account of myself that I've ever read ever. Thanks for the snap judgement. Feel free to try again.

[Nuzzolese]

You just need to acknowledge that everybody is fucked up and worth nothing but contempt deep down.

Women view men as a source of safety and protection, and in turn value the power that men seem to possess. It is this power which allows men to fuck women.

Men view women as trophies, painted dolls of perfection with no natural gasses which reflect their own personal worth. It is the potential to increase this personal worth that men covet most.

That was nice. I like it.

[fucktopgirl]

You just need to acknowledge that everybody is fucked up and worth nothing but contempt deep down.

Women view men as a source of safety and protection, and in turn value the power that men seem to possess. It is this power which allows men to fuck women.

Men view women as trophies, painted dolls of perfection with no natural gasses which reflect their own personal worth. It is the potential to increase this personal worth that men covet most.


cliche and cheesy!!

[THRILLHO]

cliche and cheesy!!

True as hell. Are you single?

[Qdrop]

Wow. That is the absolute wrongest account of myself that I've ever read ever. Thanks for the snap judgement. Feel free to try again.

why bother...

[Sarky Devotchka]

jesus christ, I'm gonna need a shovel for this thread.

so, basically, I'm immature and sad because I go after what I want? is maturity and happiness about compromising and hiding your feelings?

as for some of you implying or straight out saying that I'm pathetic and will do anything to get a boyfriend, I have no romantic illusions of forever with anyone, and I'm not desperate, I'm frustrated. My mom is on her way to her 4th marriage. so, of course I have issues dealing with men. On one hand, I know that some of her husbands have provided for her (and me), so I do crave a marriage situation where I would have a partner or someone to take care of me. On the other hand, I was taught that you can't really rely on anyone in this world but yourself...so I have this tough girl, "I can do anything and anyone I want, I don't need a boyfriend" mentality.

I tried to make my last relationship work because he was a supportive father-type...I see that now. I compromised my need for someone to keep up with me intellectually because I craved comfort. Now I'm in a place where I know myself better than I did before...I know why I do what I do (well, for the most part).

and yes, I probably do live in a world of extended-adolescence and hedonism, where everyone's attractive and everyone's in a band and everyone's an artist and everyone gets wasted and fucks eachother. and yes, sometimes I like living in that world because it can be exciting, but it can't go on forever, and it's incredibly shallow.

that's why for me, right now, I felt like I found someone who encompassed all of what I think I'm looking for in a person...I'm talking beyond looks, he's not even that good-looking really...he's in the scene, but he's not a scenester, he's talented and confident, but not over-confident. He's a nice person who I've had interesting and entertaining conversations with. Our mutual friends speak very highly of him and are basically rooting for me in this situation.

so, judge all you want, we have a genuine spark between us, and I'm not going to sit around waiting and wishing and hoping and wondering, "what would happen if he knew that I liked him back?" because now I will see what happens. and if it's nothing, then I move on.

AND I AM NOT STUPID. QJERK.

[DandyFop]

Wow I didn't expect this thread to blow up into soapbox city. I like Q's points even if I don't like his arrogance.

Without knowing who this guy is in question, I think that you still may be in that "grass is greener" thing Sarky, I know that I have struggled with it myself for years. I think maybe that's why I decided to respond to this thread, because I have been in your situation a few times. In fact, right now I am getting over a crush on a guy at work who has a girlfriend (of 4 years). But I have no delusions that anything will happen, it's pretty much just looking at something pretty. (though mysteriously another coworker told me the crush talked about flirting with me...I don't know, whatever). It's getting over these kind of impulse things that will help out in the long run, at least I hope, or what the hell am I doing??

EDIT: Hey I wrote this before seeing your rant Sarky. Good on ya from learning from past experience, but I still just think it's kinda crap for the girlfriend...

[kaiser soze]

wow, you summed up a friend of mine to the t!

anyways sarky, it just seems all you talk about is guys (and it always appears to be a new one each time)

you speak of this independent approach to your life, but it looks more like you're coping with codependency/fidelity issues

take a break....the way you throw yourself at them shows you're weaker willed than you think you are

find a nice guy, just not on another girl's watch

you're cool, but damn girl you're hot to trot!

[Sarky Devotchka]

Wow I didn't expect this thread to blow up into soapbox city. I like Q's points even if I don't like his arrogance.

Without knowing who this guy is in question, I think that you still may be in that "grass is greener" thing Sarky, I know that I have struggled with it myself for years. I think maybe that's why I decided to respond to this thread, because I have been in your situation a few times. In fact, right now I am getting over a crush on a guy at work who has a girlfriend (of 4 years). Though it's different in my case, as nothing would ever happen (though mysteriously another coworker told me the crush talked about flirting with me...I don't know, whatever). It's getting over these kind of impulse things that will help out in the long run, at least I hope, or what the hell am I doing??

I don't think it's a "grass is greener" thing, I liked him before I knew he had a girlfriend, she was never around so I didn't even think he had one until I asked my friend if he did and then all the beans were spilled.

impulse or not, I think honesty is best. plus, I looked at his girlfriend's blog about new year's and she didn't seem upset or anything, she seemed upbeat...so she must not have seen or suspected anything.

everyone tell me I'm a creep for spying now please and thank you.

[hpdrifter]

Well said. Aren't you a young'un?

[DandyFop]

impulse or not, I think honesty is best. plus, I looked at his girlfriend's blog about new year's and she didn't seem upset or anything, she seemed upbeat...so she must not have seen or suspected anything.


Haha so since she didn't see it, it's okay?

[kaiser soze]

isn't that how cheating starts?

[Sarky Devotchka]

wow, you summed up a friend of mine to the t!

anyways sarky, it just seems all you talk about is guys (and it always appears to be a new one each time)

you speak of this independent approach to your life, but it looks more like you're coping with codependency/fidelity issues

take a break....the way you throw yourself at them shows you're weaker willed than you think you are

find a nice guy, just not on another girl's watch

you're cool, but damn girl you're hot to trot!


ack! I'm not throwing myself at anyone!

but I suppose I do talk about boys a lot. I'm just trying to figure them out. I'm a scientist.

[kaiser soze]

a maaaaaad scientist!!!

so lemme guess, human biology?

[Sarky Devotchka]

Haha so since she didn't see it, it's okay?

NO! I didn't mean it like that. but, okay, yeah, I guess. it's not like it was some great demonstration of affection between us anyway, we were just talking while hugging, people do that, it was loud in there. I'm just glad I didn't ruin her night or anything. I feel bad enough as it is.

I'm not going to try to get him to cheat on her, okay! everyone calm down!

[Qdrop]

so, basically, I'm immature and sad because I go after what I want? without considering the consequences of those around the situation. that's selfish.

is maturity and happiness about compromising and hiding your feelings? it's about being realistic and ETHICAL!!
one more time: ETHICAL.

values, virtues, sensibility.
morals you stick by.
and not letting your impulses contradict those.
SELF CONTROL!

and yes, I probably do live in a world of extended-adolescence and hedonism, where everyone's attractive and everyone's in a band and everyone's an artist and everyone gets wasted and fucks eachother. and yes, sometimes I like living in that world because it can be exciting, but it can't go on forever, and it's incredibly shallow. well it's good that you recognize that.

that's why for me, right now, I felt like I found someone who encompassed all of what I think I'm looking for in a person...I'm talking beyond looks, he's not even that good-looking really...he's in the scene, but he's not a scenester, he's talented and confident, but not over-confident. He's a nice person who I've had interesting and entertaining conversations with. Our mutual friends speak very highly of him and are basically rooting for me in this situation. oh...and he's all but cheating on his girlfriend with you (literally inches from it)...while she was 4 feet away.
yeah, this is the kind of guy you can build a relationship with.
sure.

how do you NOT see that curve ahead in the road?
stop playing with the radio, and look AT THE ROAD!!

[Echewta]

Sarky and Dandy are evil.

[Qdrop]

NO! I didn't mean it like that. but, okay, yeah, I guess. it's not like it was some great demonstration of affection between us anyway, we were just talking while hugging, people do that, it was loud in there.

well if i was that guy...and my girl was 4 feet away...
rest assured, she would have beaten the fuckin shit out of you....

believe it or not, some women find it offensive and threatening when they see another woman hugging and hanging on her man, laughing and talking cheek to cheek.
crazy, i know.

[Ace42X]

it's about being realistic and ETHICAL!!
one more time: ETHICAL.

values, virtues, sensibility.
morals you stick by.
and not letting your impulses contradict those.
SELF CONTROL!

Bullshit, maturity is about doing whatever the hell you want to your body and mind, and not letting any fucker tell you what to do!

[Qdrop]

Bullshit, maturity is about doing whatever the hell you want to your body and mind, and not letting any fucker tell you what to do!

i think that's called anarchy.


no, but this isn't dealing exclusively with her body and mind....it's affecting others around her...negatively.

we are a society...not an army of one.

[kaiser soze]

I thought maturity was about driving cars while drinking?

[Nuzzolese]

we are a society...not an army of one.

ha! oh that qdrop!

[bigblu89]

The one thing I must agree with Qdrop on is this whole lusting after him while knowing he has a girl.

Even if he's feeding into it.

I always vowed never to get involved with someone that involved, because if it ever became something serious, I wouldn't be able to handle telling the "How I met her" story...

..."Well, she was seeing this other guy, and started cheating on him with me, and I guess I won."

And every rule has it's exceptions, but I wouldn't be able to get serious with someone knowing that our relationship started by them cheating on someone to be with me.

What makes me so different that they won't stray again?

[DandyFop]

Sarky and Dandy are evil.

explain at least

[BionicEye]

maybe this dude and his girl are just wanting to get sarky into bed to braid his pubes while the girlfriend plays his trombone?

[fucktopgirl]

maybe this dude and his girl are just wanting to get sarky into bed to braid his pubes while the girlfriend plays his trombone?


ha yea ,you never know!!

[bigblu89]

Well, backing Echewta's statement, Dandy and Sarky are the only two boy-crazy girls that I "know".

Everyone else is too old, or don't have the time to be bothered with the "why do the guys I don't like like me, and the ones I like, don't."

[DandyFop]

He didn't say we were boy-crazy, he said we were evil...

[Nuzzolese]

NO! I didn't mean it like that. but, okay, yeah, I guess. it's not like it was some great demonstration of affection between us anyway, we were just talking while hugging, people do that, it was loud in there. I'm just glad I didn't ruin her night or anything. I feel bad enough as it is.

I'm not going to try to get him to cheat on her, okay! everyone calm down!

You might just end up hurting yourself if you let yourself get carried away pining for him when all he did was confess a crush while drunk at a party. You told him how you feel, your work is done here. If he stays with his gf then let him go and shift your gaze in another direction.

I just thought you might like another person telling you what you should do.

[bigblu89]

He didn't say we were boy-crazy, he said we were evil...

Most Boy-Crazy girls are evil.

[Nuzzolese]

Most Boy-Crazy girls are evil.

How would you know? You only "know" two of them.

[DandyFop]

Haha, okay then. Actually it seems as though my boy-craziness has taken a turn. I've been concentrating on being happy sans boys (though I do like having crushes, it's true). It's working out okay. I'm avoiding hanging out with guys who've been asking me out and that's kinda huge for me. Good times. Even though I did kiss two boys recently and was sad I missed the NYE kiss, nothing was really a big deal in my book.

[Sarky Devotchka]

well if i was that guy...and my girl was 4 feet away...
rest assured, she would have beaten the fuckin shit out of you....

believe it or not, some women find it offensive and threatening when they see another woman hugging and hanging on her man, laughing and talking cheek to cheek.
crazy, i know.


wow, it seems like you're picturing this scenario with a little too much detail. I wasn't hanging on him, we weren't laughing, it wasn't funny at all, it was bittersweet if anything, and "hot" because it was quietly passionate (if that can even be a thing). plus, it's not uncommon for me to be embracing one of my friends while talking in a loud environment, it's not uncommon for me to hold a boy's face in my hands and say, "oh, my precious" then kiss him on the forehead. the touching and affection comes from familiarity and friendship, not anything I do on purpose to piss off girls. If I'm looking to piss girls off, I go for the ass grab.

[DandyFop]

Sarky, no matter how you guys were standing, embracing, whatever, I think what was said is what matters. You can't really avoid that. I'm sure you're happy it's out there, but like you admitted, it was a selfish act, right? You seem to be in denial or something.

[bigblu89]

How would you know? You only "know" two of them.

OK. Lemme rephrase. They're the only ones I STILL know.

All the rest of them stopped being that way when they turned about 20 or so.

[Sarky Devotchka]

You might just end up hurting yourself if you let yourself get carried away pining for him when all he did was confess a crush while drunk at a party. You told him how you feel, your work is done here. If he stays with his gf then let him go and shift your gaze in another direction.

I just thought you might like another person telling you what you should do.

hey thanks. ha ha. I'm trying to not get carried away, I'm in neutral right now. I knew he had a crush on me before anyone told me, his friends just verified it for me...this has been going on for more than two months now, so I've actually been pretty detached. Just the drunkenness and my friends sort of egging me on by saying things like, "he's been asking about you, he said he can forsee ending his relationship soon", etc. etc. just sent me over the edge and I decided to say something.

and for everyone else, you may have missed it, but I started liking him before I knew he had a girlfriend and I don't like him more now that I know he has a girlfriend, I like him less. I'm not making this a competition, I'll I've done the whole time is be myself.

[DandyFop]

Okay then....either way, I don't think that's what echewta was talking about.

[Qdrop]

wow, it seems like you're picturing this scenario with a little too much detail. I wasn't hanging on him, we weren't laughing, it wasn't funny at all, it was bittersweet if anything, and "hot" because it was quietly passionate (if that can even be a thing).

?


so drunky (me) decides to go over to him. It was dark and hot and loud and I went over to him and he put his arm around me and we pressed against eachother embracing cheek to cheek to shout into eachothers ears [...] and our faces were so close, we kept switching ears, we were holding eachother so tight, so natural, so fucking hot. with his girlfriend 4 feet away.

??




plus, it's not uncommon for me to be embracing one of my friends while talking in a loud environment, it's not uncommon for me to hold a boy's face in my hands and say, "oh, my precious" then kiss him on the forehead. the touching and affection comes from familiarity and friendship, not anything I do on purpose to piss off girls.
like is said: if i was that guy....and you did that shit with me with my girl 4 feet away...she knock you the fuck out....then me.
you had better hope, for your sake, you don't run into the wrong kinda woman some day in a similar circumstances.

[Nuzzolese]

Well, that's because your girlfriend is an aggressive, irrational...kinda woman.

[Qdrop]

Well, that's because your girlfriend is an aggressive, irrational...kinda woman.

aggressive?
yeah.

irrational?
if she saw me flirting like that with another woman and DIDN'T do anything...i would think less of her for it. how could she ever let a man walk over her like that? to publically disrespect her like that? what kind of women could see her man doing that, and just go "oh, they're...they're just being friendly...it's nothing..."
pathetic.

you don't physically flirt with another woman like that...particularly with your girlfriend 4 feet away.

honestly, nuzz. come the fuck on....

[Ace42X]

you don't physically flirt with another woman like that...particularly with your girlfriend 4 feet away.

Alright, smartarse, how do YOU wrangle a threesome?!?

[Qdrop]

Alright, smartarse, how do YOU wrangle a threesome?!?

for about $1500/hr.

[Sarky Devotchka]

Sarky, no matter how you guys were standing, embracing, whatever, I think what was said is what matters. You can't really avoid that. I'm sure you're happy it's out there, but like you admitted, it was a selfish act, right? You seem to be in denial or something.


I'm not in denial. I'm generally selfish and self-centered, I know that. I think I'm better than her, yes. Is it true that I am? that remains to be seen, I don't really know her at all. I do think I'm a bad person for thinking these things and wanting to manipulate the situation to work in my favor, because she's a human being and for as selfish as I am, I honestly don't want anyone to get hurt...but I think it's too late for that. I don't think what I said or didn't say changed that aspect of it at all.

If anything, him coming over to me before our "exchange" and grabbing me and saying, "you look great..." escalated things to a different level, like he wanted me to know that he liked me.

gah, I think you guys are picturing him as some smoothy DJ. he dresses like an old man and plays James Brown-type dance music from the 60's.

I'm tired of explaining.

[Ace42X]

I'm tired of explaining.

Damn straight. Send me some nude photos of you and I'll see if I have any sound advice for you and your situation.

[BionicEye]

your friends know what everyone here has been saying and were, just as you say, egging you on. i guess it sucks to be boy-crazy, but if you're enjoying all the drama, hey... enjoy.

[Qdrop]

I'm not in denial. I'm generally selfish and self-centered, I know that. I think I'm better than her, yes. Is it true that I am? that remains to be seen, I don't really know her at all. I do think I'm a bad person for thinking these things and wanting to manipulate the situation to work in my favor, because she's a human being and for as selfish as I am, I honestly don't want anyone to get hurt...but I think it's too late for that. I don't think what I said or didn't say changed that aspect of it at all.
seriously, how old are you?

i think klepto and chickB are more mature than you.

man, i could go through that paragraph and point out about 5 mega immature attitudes and lack of ethics.
but what's the point?


gah, I think you guys are picturing him as some smoothy DJ. he dresses like an old man and plays James Brown-type dance music from the 60's. ah yes. that makes a differance.


whatever....you'll get yours eventually.
and then you'll either smarten up...or you won't.

i'm glad i don't know you personally.

[Nuzzolese]

aggressive?
yeah.

irrational?
if she saw me flirting like that with another woman and DIDN'T do anything...i would think less of her for it. how could she ever let a man walk over her like that? to publically disrespect her like that? what kind of women could see her man doing that, and just go "oh, they're...they're just being friendly...it's nothing..."
pathetic.

you don't physically flirt with another woman like that...particularly with your girlfriend 4 feet away.

honestly, nuzz. come the fuck on....

There's some rational middle ground between doing something about it and kicking the shit out of her and you. And also, the girl stepped to me ONfuckingLINE because she thought I was giving you too much message board attention. But sweet girl, she cares about the kids, likes her Red Bull, makes a cute cheerleader, attractive in a Varsity Softball kind of way.

[Nuzzolese]

I want to know you personally now. You're all boy crazy and you make your own clothes, you're artsy and athletic, you're quite touchy-feely and you punch people and shout a lot and wear your heart on your sleeve, you have fabulous style and party flair...you're like a drag queen, but an actual woman!

[mickill]

Seriously, what is wrong with Qdrop?

[Ace42X]

Seriously, what is wrong with Qdrop?

Repressed homosexuality.

[Lex Diamonds]

Seriously, what is wrong with Qdrop?
It's AIDs. I told you to wear the glove, man. (n)

[Qdrop]

There's some rational middle ground between doing something about it and kicking the shit out of her and you. sure, but that situation requires an ass-kicking. i would do the same if the roles were reversed.

And also, the girl stepped to me ONfuckingLINE because she thought I was giving you too much message board attention. heheh....yeah, that was funny. she got mad cause she saw some comment you made about a pic of me on sure shots.

she was half serious, btw.
like she finds some mystery person in chicago to be an actual threat to her man.

But sweet girl, she cares about the kids, likes her Red Bull, makes a cute cheerleader, attractive in a Varsity Softball kind of way. god damn right. my future wife.

[Qdrop]

It's AIDs. I told you to wear the glove, man. (n)

jesus, you are all about my cock today.

go look at some porn, you fuckin perv.

[Qdrop]

Seriously, what is wrong with Qdrop?

oh, don't you start.

jumpin into the conversation all at the end with your "jeese, Q...what's your prob blah blah blah..."

i think Synch has that niche role.

[Lex Diamonds]

jesus, you are all about my cock today.

go look at some porn, you fuckin perv.
I haven't mentioned your penis once, today or ever. Check your facts, beeyotch.

[mickill]

oh, don't you start.

jumpin into the conversation all at the end with your "jeese, Q...what's your prob blah blah blah..."

i think Synch has that niche role.
Fup The Shuck Ut, Beeyotch!

[Sarky Devotchka]

I want to know you personally now. You're all boy crazy and you make your own clothes, you're artsy and athletic, you're quite touchy-feely and you punch people and shout a lot and wear your heart on your sleeve, you have fabulous style and party flair...you're like a drag queen, but an actual woman!

you bitch, I can never tell if you're complimenting me or insulting me! I'm going to tell Qdrop's girlfriend that you said you wanted to touch his butt.

[Qdrop]

you bitch, I can never tell if you're complimenting me or insulting me! I'm going to tell Qdrop's girlfriend that you said you wanted to touch his butt.

jab jab PUNCH!

[Qdrop]

Fup The Shuck Ut, Beeyotch!

you're typing while holding your daughter, aren't you?

[Nuzzolese]

you bitch, I can never tell if you're complimenting me or insulting me! I'm going to tell Qdrop's girlfriend that you said you wanted to touch his butt.

Catty and gossipy too! You are so precious! Honestly I'm attempting to compliment you because in my opinion everything I've said reflects why I think you're unique and awesome and fascinating and why there should be a movie about you and why every time I go to Chicago I wonder if I'm going to see you, which is insanely unlikely but dreams will be dreams y'know.

[Ace42X]

This thread doesn't give me enough attention. You are all boring me now. Either get naked, or say things that are interesting to me.

[Sarky Devotchka]

God help all of us if a movie is made about me. Cort's writing a movie about the both of us though. It's called: We Are The Best. I think it should be called: Cordy, Stop Making Sounds With Your Mouth When I'm On The Internet. COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU.

[Nuzzolese]

I have an alternate idea for the movie version of your life. Instead of Christina Ricci playing you, even though she'd do a great job, it would be a beautiful drag queen who will be, for all purposes within the reality of the movie, a woman. No one in the movie will even think it's a man, it'll just be a joke to the audience.

[Echewta]

In the Qdrop senerio with his girlfriend getting up into some other flirty girls grill, I think it would be Qdrop who should do the stepping up. Not the girlfriend. I've been in situations where a guy is flirting with the girl I'm with and she doesn't do anything about it. I just stood there. Reality check. If someone digs you enough, they would have told the person to scram. Instead, I did. Have some fucking respect for yourself. I think this paragraph is now about me. Sorry.

Regarding my evil comment, I was just daydreaming about dandy and sarky in devil costumes and trick or treat'n. It came out that you were both evil. Thats all. People read to much into it. Damn.

[Sarky Devotchka]

I have an alternate idea for the movie version of your life. Instead of Christina Ricci playing you, even though she'd do a great job, it would be a beautiful drag queen who will be, for all purposes within the reality of the movie, a woman. No one in the movie will even think it's a man, it'll just be a joke to the audience.

:(

okay, that makes sense.

I have to go teach some kids some math now, assholes. I'll ask them what they think I should do.

[hpdrifter]

I wouldn't kick anyone's ass if someone rolled up on my man.

I might, in my childish way, give it a second to see how he reacted and then (if I were satisfied that he wasn't reciprocating) make my presence known by standing next to him and kissing him on the cheek. The I would extend my hand to said slut bomb and introduce myself. As his girlfriend.

[Echewta]

I wouldn't kick anyone's ass if someone rolled up on my man.

I might, in my childish way, give it a second to see how he reacted and then (if I were satisfied that he wasn't reciprocating) make my presence known by standing next to him and kissing him on the cheek. The I would extend my hand to said slut bomb and introduce myself. As his girlfriend.

<3

[hpdrifter]

Competition between women can be much more subtle and subversive than fist throwing.

Vulgar.

[Qdrop]

In the Qdrop senerio with his girlfriend getting up into some other flirty girls grill, I think it would be Qdrop who should do the stepping up. well, yeah..any good man would. i'm just saying...in the circumstance that SARKY was presenting...the asshole guy was not stepping up, but rather loving it....thus Sarky AND the dude should get knocked in the head.

I've been in situations where a guy is flirting with the girl I'm with and she doesn't do anything about it. I just stood there. eh...that's weak, man.
you people seem to think it's purely about being jealous.
no.
it's also about not letting some asshole get away with hitting on a taken person IF THEY KNOW THEY ARE TAKEN!
if that guy did not KNOW that you were with that girl..well, that's one thing. she should just say "hey, i'm with him" and be done with it.
but if the dude KNOWS she's with you and still hits on her...man, you gotta step up and regulate. you can't let some schmuck think he can get away with that...where's the justice?
that's like witnessing a purse-napping...and letting the dude just run by you.
you gotta do your part as a citizen.

Reality check. If someone digs you enough, they would have told the person to scram. Instead, I did. Have some fucking respect for yourself. I think this paragraph is now about me. Sorry. i understand what you are saying...if the person likes you enough THEY will tell that person to fuck off...you shouldn't have to.
but none-the-less...if that person KNEW you were with them...shit, he/she needs to know that he can't get away with that...there are rules of conduct..
ethics.

like what Nuzz said ...about when Jenny gave her shit cause she thought she was being too friendly with me or whatever, and didn't like the comment she made on sure shots about me.
did jenny actually have a jealousy attack and see Nuzz as a threat?
no.
she just assumed that Nuzz KNEW i was not single...and wanted to let Nuzz know she was breaking "code of conduct" of sorts.

[Echewta]

the guy didn't know so I don't blame him. I know when to step up and when to step away.

[Ace42X]

if that guy did not KNOW that you were with that girl..well, that's one thing. she should just say "hey, i'm with him" and be done with it.
but if the dude KNOWS she's with you and still hits on her...man, you gotta step up and regulate. you can't let some schmuck think he can get away with that...where's the justice?

Saves you buying your trustworthy and loyal chix0r another drink. If some idiot wants to waste his efforts and cash chatting up a bint whose going to be slopping on my wonger, that's his problem.

[Qdrop]

the guy didn't know so I don't blame him. I know when to step up and when to step away.

well there you go.

[hpdrifter]

the guy didn't know so I don't blame him. I know when to step up and when to step away.

<3


If someone hits on me when I'm out I always tell them right away that I have a boyfriend.

Its kind of funny, usually my boyfriend will walk up if he sees it happening and the guy almost always apologizes to him. And then they shake hands and my boyfriend says, "Its alright, dude. Hey she's a beautiful girl." And everyone is happy.

Its kind of cool actually.

[Ace42X]

And then they shake hands and my boyfriend says, "Its alright, dude. Hey she's a beautiful girl." And everyone is happy.

Its kind of cool actually.

Hah, you are so naive. That's drug dealing, he's passing him some highs.

[Qdrop]

Saves you buying your trustworthy and loyal chix0r another drink. If some idiot wants to waste his efforts and cash chatting up a bint whose going to be slopping on my wonger, that's his problem.

well...i disagree.
there shoudl be a price to pay for trying to covet another's...

it a law of nature....

[Ace42X]

well...i disagree.
there shoudl be a price to pay for trying to covet another's...

it a law of nature....

I thought it was in the bible? Coveting asses or something...

[Nuzzolese]

like what Nuzz said ...about when Jenny gave her shit cause she thought she was being too friendly with me or whatever, and didn't like the comment she made on sure shots about me.
did jenny actually have a jealousy attack and see Nuzz as a threat?
no.
she just assumed that Nuzz KNEW i was not single...and wanted to let Nuzz know she was breaking "code of conduct" of sorts.

I don't remember what I said in sure shots but was the end result some sort of putting me in my place? Was I served? Did Jenny bitch slap me with her messages? If that was what happened then I really regret being so nice and reassuring.

[hpdrifter]

Hah, you are so naive. That's drug dealing, he's passing him some highs.

More likely he's getting passed some highs.

[marsdaddy]

well...i disagree.
there shoudl be a price to pay for trying to covet another's...

it a law of nature....Do you follow people who cut you off on the interstate and give them a piece of your mind, too?

[Sarky Devotchka]

Kids? Their advice? Haven't you been reading the responses? Why do you want more of the same type of crap?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

well, actually they were helpful, one of my students said, "why are these wrong?" concerning a problem dealing with negative exponents, and I said, "although your answers are wrong, your solution is logical, the idea that the negative would indicate division or inversion is not intuitive unless you are already familiar with scientific notation as it relates to the presentation of decimal numbers smaller than 1/100th."

If you think about it, all the answers are right there.

[Sarky Devotchka]

then I told everyone about Qdrop and they said he must work at a bank and have a small penis.

even 3rd graders can tell.

[Qdrop]

and have a small penis.


sadly, you'd probably love to find out....even if i have a girlfriend.

cause, you know....you just have to know, for yourself....no matter what other people get hurt. it's all about you.

[mickill]

sadly, you'd probably love to find out....even if i have a girlfriend.

cause, you know....you just have to know, for yourself....no matter what other people get hurt. it's all about you.
Are you flirting with her?

[Qdrop]

Are you flirting with her?

are you flirting with me?

[Sarky Devotchka]

sadly, you'd probably love to find out....even if i have a girlfriend.

cause, you know....you just have to know, for yourself....no matter what other people get hurt. it's all about you.

you're right. so show it. I'd also like to see your girlfriend's.

[mickill]

are you flirting with me?
Yeah, so?

[Qdrop]

Yeah, so?

Let's saddle up and go horse herding.
you can sleep in my tent.

[Qdrop]

you're right. so show it.

are you gonna go crying in the street, drunk, looking for a cigarette when you find out you're wrong?

[mickill]

Let's saddle up and go horse herding.
you can sleep in my tent.
What are you gay? That was just some harmless alpha male on male flirting. Don't get carried away, brah.

[marsdaddy]

Let's saddle up and go horse herding.
you can sleep in my tent.Whoa, nelly.



Once again demonstrating your vast knowledge and exhaustive research.

[Sarky Devotchka]

are you gonna go crying in the street, drunk, looking for a cigarette when you find out you're wrong?

wait, wrong that your girlfriend has a penis, or wrong that you have one?

[Qdrop]

What are you gay? That was just some harmless alpha male on male flirting. Don't get carried away, brah.

whoa chief...

i was just asking if you wanted to go horseback riding, do some camping....huddle for warmth...

that's all.

nothing else.

[Qdrop]

wait, wrong that your girlfriend has a penis, or wrong that you have one?

well, both.

[Qdrop]

Whoa, nelly.



Once again demonstrating your vast knowledge and exhaustive research.

dude, you're not sleeping in our tent.

[Sarky Devotchka]

yes, I will go crying out in the street when I find out that neither you or your girlfriend have penises.

[kaiser soze]

sarky's cock rocks!

[Qdrop]

yes, I will go crying out in the street when I find out that neither you or your girlfriend have penises.

you're really into cock, sarky.

[marsdaddy]

you're really into cock, sarky.First Nuzz's tranny comment, and now this. That's low, man.

[Nuzzolese]

First Nuzz's tranny comment, and now this. That's low, man.

not a tranny, a drag queen, they're not always the same thing. Transvestites are usually straight men who enjoy wearing women's clothes for sexual arousal or personal liberation. Drag queens are often gay men who dress in exaggerated women's clothes to perform. A drag queen is an individual with too much style for one human body. Didn't you see Too Wong Foo? And my comment was complimentary and light-hearted. Q's was defensive and childish.

[Sarky Devotchka]

yer a cock yer a cock yer a cock

bleh.

OMG OBSESSSSSSSSSED.

well, I'm gonna go over to his work today and say hello and wear my sexiest outfit and blow in his ear and ask him to marry me and then punch him in the face then make out with his coworker before I burn the down the whole fucking lot.

[hpdrifter]

you're serious about the going to his work part aren't you

[Nuzzolese]

yer a cock yer a cock yer a cock

bleh.

OMG OBSESSSSSSSSSED.

well, I'm gonna go over to his work today and say hello and wear my sexiest outfit and blow in his ear and ask him to marry me and then punch him in the face then make out with his coworker before I burn the down the whole fucking lot.

Oh get over yourself!

[Qdrop]

yer a cock yer a cock yer a cock

bleh.

OMG OBSESSSSSSSSSED.

well, I'm gonna go over to his work today and say hello and wear my sexiest outfit and blow in his ear and ask him to marry me and then punch him in the face then make out with his coworker before I burn the down the whole fucking lot.

all because of cock?

[marsdaddy]

not a tranny, a drag queen, they're not always the same thing. Transvestites are usually straight men who enjoy wearing women's clothes for sexual arousal or personal liberation. Drag queens are often gay men who dress in exaggerated women's clothes to perform. A drag queen is an individual with too much style for one human body. Didn't you see Too Wong Foo? And my comment was complimentary and light-hearted. Q's was defensive and childish.No, never saw Too Wong Foo, Julie Nemar. But I have seen Rocky Horror Picture show at least 25 times -- never dressed up, did throw popcorn.

[Qdrop]

Q's was defensive and childish.

all because of cock?

[Sarky Devotchka]

Oh get over yourself!

okay. :( sorry.

and no, hpdrifter, I'm not going to his work. I will, however, pass by it on saturday while riding the bus and I will crane my neck to see inside and use my bionic foot to project love rays into his butt.

[mickill]

I think we should all start ganging up on Q and make him cry. Maybe throw rocks at him, too. And then Sarky could step forward in the middle of all the yelling and ruthless berating, and look down at Q then turn to look back at everybody else and say something like, "he's had enough" or "this turkey's done" or something equally affecting. And then Q'd get up and run off into the night sobbing. And as the frame pans over to Christina Ricci--I mean Sarky watching him run off, amidst all the silence, someone would start a slow clap. And then we'd all hoist Sarky in the air and start chanting her name as a new cover of Street Fighting Man by Evanescence begins fulminating and everything starts going slow mo. Cue voice over.

[marsdaddy]

I think we should all start ganging up on Q and make him cry. Maybe throw rocks at him, too. And then Sarky could step forward in the middle of all the yelling and ruthless berating, and look down at Q then turn to look back at everybody else and say something like, "he's had enough" or "this turkey's done" or something equally affecting. And then Q'd get up and run off into the night sobbing. And as the frame pans over to Christina Ricci--I mean Sarky watching him run off, amidst all the silence, someone would start a slow clap. And then we'd all hoist Sarky in the air and start chanting her name as a new cover of Street Fighting Man by Evanescence begins fulminating and everything starts going slow mo. Cue voice over.Sounds like someone has a Napolean complex.

[Qdrop]

I think we should all start ganging up on Q and make him cry. Maybe throw rocks at him, too. And then Sarky could step forward in the middle of all the yelling and ruthless berating, and look down at Q then turn to look back at everybody else and say something like, "he's had enough" or "this turkey's done" or something equally affecting. And then Q'd get up and run off into the night sobbing. And as the frame pans over to Christina Ricci--I mean Sarky watching him run off, amidst all the silence, someone would start a slow clap. And then we'd all hoist Sarky in the air and start chanting her name as a new cover of Street Fighting Man by Evanescence begins fulminating and everything starts going slow mo. Cue voice over.

i'll pass on that script, thanks.

i'm looking more for action/thriller...

[BionicEye]

^^^
mickill's narrative = *chuckle* (y)

[Qdrop]

Sounds like someone has a Napolean complex.

you've been ruthless lately.



i love it.

[Sarky Devotchka]

I don't wanna be christina ricci. :( I wanna zooey deschanel to play me.

AND NO EVANESENCE! I want Rush.

[Qdrop]

regardless....it should be titled "Poison Ivy 5: Sarkey Loves Cock, But Not Qdrop's"

[mickill]

I don't wanna be christina ricci. :( I wanna zooey deschanel to play me.

AND NO EVANESENCE! I want Rush.
C'mon, imagine Geddy Lee doing Street Fighting Man. That's just wrong. We need some fresh young talent. Maybe Kelly Osbourne....or Linkin Park...or marsdaddy.

[cosmo105]

i learned a new word today. thanks, mikey.

[mickill]

i learned a new word today. thanks, mikey.

Hoist? I got another one, cos: respeconize. Like, "bitch you betta respeconize nahumsayin?".

[cosmo105]

no, "imagine."

[DandyFop]

Sarky's always right.