NOW ladies need to do a better job of picking their fights...

[valvano]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2284993

:rolleyes:

[ms.peachy]

I don't understand your criticism. She made a valid point - the coach guy expressed all of this concern over the fact that, oh, the poor boy, now his future is ruined. Well, frankly, that was a choice this boy made when he sexually assaulted the girl. What about her, where is the coach's great concern for what she's going through, eh?

[Ali]

What about her, where is the coach's great concern for what she's going through, eh?Same place as Vulva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulva)no's :rolleyes:

[zerohour]

I don't understand your criticism. She made a valid point - the coach guy expressed all of this concern over the fact that, oh, the poor boy, now his future is ruined. Well, frankly, that was a choice this boy made when he sexually assaulted the girl. What about her, where is the coach's great concern for what she's going through, eh?

Well he is a football coach and has been for 40 years plus. He was asked about the football player before a football game. So he talked about the football player, and he didn't say anything insensitive about the ALLEGED victim. If you've ever heard him speak, you can picture him saying that in a football context and not meaning harm by it. Also, no charges have been brought, so you can't really say he that he made the choice to sexually assault her. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?

[ms.peachy]

Well he is a football coach and has been for 40 years plus. He was asked about the football player before a football game. So he talked about the football player, and he didn't say anything insensitive about the ALLEGED victim. If you've ever heard him speak, you can picture him saying that in a football context and not meaning harm by it. Also, no charges have been brought, so you can't really say he that he made the choice to sexually assault her. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
Look, I can/t pretend to know any more about the particular case than what was in that brief article. But 'not meaning any harm' is not exactly the same as 'being inoffensive'. I'm not saying the coach comitted some egregious crime, just that he may be being insensitive, and I don't think it's neccessariy wrong for the NOW woman to have pointed that out.

[nodoubtTIF]

Look, I can/t pretend to know any more about the particular case than what was in that brief article. But 'not meaning any harm' is not exactly the same as 'being inoffensive'. I'm not saying the coach comitted some egregious crime, just that he may be being insensitive, and I don't think it's neccessariy wrong for the NOW woman to have pointed that out.

I second that.

I didn't hear any sympathy for the alleged victim.

[Echewta]

If the NOW rep was hot, Valvano wouldn't have had a problem.

[zerohour]

I second that.

I didn't hear any sympathy for the alleged victim.
The quote is in the context of a football game and by reading it on the web you can't hear the inflection of his voice, which would indicate he was showing sympathy for all involved parties. This is why you didn’t “hear” any sympathy. Again, if you've ever heard the guy talk he is a 78 year old football coach who rambles when asked any question, but has his heart in the right place.


Look, I can/t pretend to know any more about the particular case than what was in that brief article. But 'not meaning any harm' is not exactly the same as 'being inoffensive'. I'm not saying the coach comitted some egregious crime, just that he may be being insensitive, and I don't think it's neccessariy wrong for the NOW woman to have pointed that out.
The NOW woman didn't point that out, they asked for his resignation. Which I personally think is ridiculous. If they asked for an apology or clarification, then fine. Asking for his resignation makes their organization look like a joke considering what he said.