Top 5 Essential Hip-Hop Albums

[Lex Diamonds]

Name yours. Like, not just your favourite 5 albums but 5 CDs which you think everybody should have the pleasure of hearing, and which everyone love. (y)

[THRILLHO]

Run DMC-Raising Hell
NWA-Straight Outta Compton
ATCQ-Low End Theory
Nas-Illmatic
KRS ONE-Return of the Boom Bap

Just some shit to list I guess. I would have liked to include Biggie, Pac and either Paul's or CYH somewhere. And Co Flow, Wu-Tang and Ultramagnetic.

[Guy Incognito]

The first 5 should be :

3 Feet High & Rising - De La Soul
Raising Hell - Run DMC
It takes a nation of millions - Public Enemy
Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride..

The Next five should be:

Pauls Boutique
Check Your Head
Ill Communication
Hello Nasty
To The 5 Boroughs

[Lex Diamonds]

The first 5 should be :

3 Feet High & Rising - De La Soul
Raising Hell - Run DMC
It takes a nation of millions - Public Enemy
Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride..

The Next five should be:

Pauls Boutique
Check Your Head
Ill Communication
Hello Nasty
To The 5 Boroughs
Thrillho's list was pretty much spot on, but why the hell would you choose a Pharcyde album over Paul's Boutique? And don't you think Black Sunday is better than Cypress Hill?

[roosta]

Nas - Illmatic
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Dj Shadow - Endtroducing
Gangstarr - Full Clip : Decade of Gangstarr
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)

[cj hood]

no beasties?

[Lex Diamonds]

no beasties?
If it was a list of your favourite artists then I'm sure many people here would list the Beasties above all else. Paul's Boutique is probably my favourite ever album of any music type. But technically I wouldn't say that the Beastie Boys are one of the strongest hip-hop groups of all time. Although they made their own sick new style, they didn't really start a big movement in hip-hop like the Run DMC's, NWA's and WTC's of this world.

[Deep_Sea_Rain]

[QUOTE=The Padster]Thrillho's list was pretty much spot on, but why the hell would you choose a Pharcyde album over Paul's Boutique?QUOTE]

Easy, because Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde is just as good, if not better than Paul's Boutique. Out of my collection, I couldn't live without these...

(In no particular order)

1. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
2. Goodie Mob - Soul Food
3. Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
4. Outkast - Stankonia
5. Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty

Runner ups....

De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush The Show

[roosta]

no beasties?

post yours!

[wrongwayandugg]

But technically I wouldn't say that the Beastie Boys are one of the strongest hip-hop groups of all time.

I would.

Although they made their own sick new style, they didn't really start a big movement in hip-hop like the Run DMC's, NWA's and WTC's of this world.

With all respect, I think you're mistaken, The Padster.

[Auton]

have to agree with padster on this one

[roosta]

yeah, musically, the beastie's never really changed anything. you can't say any of their albums sparked a movement or a trend, or had any long term influence on hip-hop music. "licensed to ill" would be the closest, but that was more about a cultural effect. "paul's boutique" as groundbreaking as it was, didn't change anything.

[saml]

RUN-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C.
IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS TO HOLD US BACK - Public Enemy
3 FEET HIGH AND RISING - De La Soul
ENTER THE WU-TANG (36 CHAMBERS) - Wu-Tang Clan
ILLMATIC - Nas


edit: Not my favourites, but fucking essential.

[Djave_mc87]

Hi these are my favorite hip hop albums

1 Reasonable Doubt (Jay-Z)
2 RUN D.M.C (Run DMC)
3 Business as usual (Epmd)
4 Life after Death (The notorious BIG)
5 Strickly 4 my Niggaz (2pac)

And since this is a beastie boys board, my favorite album would be "To the 5 borough" peace...

[ASsman]

Hmmm, I have a lot of Hip-Hop to listen still. Can't decide, my list would cover all far sides of Hip-Hop and all emcompasing list of styles, flavors, and types. Or someone can try to come up with one....

Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tan (36 Chambers)
and
Nas - Illmatic
def on there, but as for the rest of the list, difficult to say from my point of view.

[Ally Al]

yeah, musically, the beastie's never really changed anything. you can't say any of their albums sparked a movement or a trend, or had any long term influence on hip-hop music. "licensed to ill" would be the closest, but that was more about a cultural effect. "paul's boutique" as groundbreaking as it was, didn't change anything.

hmmmm sorry but you're wrong. licensed to ill had a massive influence on prince paul who then went on to create 3 feet high and rising with de la which in turn influenced so many other things. easy e was a massive fan of the beasties, AND if you think the production and the use of sampling that the b boys and the dust bros used on PB had no influence you're mental

no disrespect intended mind (y)

[cj hood]

post yours!


in no order:

1. beastie boys - paul's boutique
2. run dmc - raising hell
3. ll cool j - b.a.d.
4. eric b & rakim - follow the leader
5. tribe called quest - low end theory

[Guy Incognito]

Thrillho's list was pretty much spot on, but why the hell would you choose a Pharcyde album over Paul's Boutique? And don't you think Black Sunday is better than Cypress Hill?


I thought I would put 5 non beastie albums and then recommend the last 5 B Boy albums to hear their take on hip hop because as the padster said they aint really the best example of rap- they take in a smorgasboard (luv that word) of styles.

As for the pharcyde - I just think that album is complete - its one you cant switch off - I think pauls boutique has a couple of weak tracks and bizarre ride hasnt.

Cypress Hill is a far better album than black sunday in my opinion - black sunday has got some killer tracks but a) theres more tracks on the first one and b)they are all ace. The first 7 tracks on that album are better than anything on Black Sunday

[Guy Incognito]

yeah, musically, the beastie's never really changed anything. you can't say any of their albums sparked a movement or a trend, or had any long term influence on hip-hop music. "licensed to ill" would be the closest, but that was more about a cultural effect. "paul's boutique" as groundbreaking as it was, didn't change anything.

Thats fair comment but I would say that the beasties are still influential but in terms of all music, not just hip hop - they've been sampled a lot in techno for example - videos, products etc.

[PaddyBoy]

RUN-DMC - RUN-DMC
Beastie Boys - Pauls Boutique
Wu-Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
Nas - Illmatic
Public Enemy - Nation Of Millions

[yeahwho]

RUN-DMC - RUN-DMC
Beastie Boys - Pauls Boutique
Wu-Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
Nas - Illmatic
Public Enemy - Nation Of Millions

That about sums it up. (y)

[Ally Al]

Name yours. Like, not just your favourite 5 albums but 5 CDs which you think everybody should have the pleasure of hearing, and which everyone love. (y)

the listening - little brother
operation doomsday - mf doom
mad villainy - mad villain
beauty and the beat - edan
council estate of mind - skinnyman

all now skool classics, stop being so predictable. yes of course enter the..., illmatic, bizarre ride... etc etc are all super dope records but try and put people on to some other shit

[ggirlballa]

3 Feet High & Rising - De La Soul
Raising Hell - Run DMC
It takes a nation of millions - Public Enemy
Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride..




i need to go get these (y)

[Ally Al]

i need to go get these (y)[/QUOTE]

i can hook you up if you like

[roosta]

hmmmm sorry but you're wrong. licensed to ill had a massive influence on prince paul who then went on to create 3 feet high and rising with de la which in turn influenced so many other things. easy e was a massive fan of the beasties, AND if you think the production and the use of sampling that the b boys and the dust bros used on PB had no influence you're mental

no disrespect intended mind (y)

no disrespect taken

but i think youre wrong.
im sure prince paul was influenced by many things, i cant see a direct correlation between LTI and 3 feet....
and the dust bros were doing their thing before PB..and sampling was a well established practice.
i just dont see the beasties as having had a major influence on any hip-hop trends in general. and after your post, i still cant ?

[Gareth]

...stop being so predictable. yes of course enter the..., illmatic, bizarre ride...etc etc are all super dope records but try and put people on to some other shit

clipse - lord willin
goodie mob - soul food
roots manuva - brand new second hand
dr octagon - octangonecologist
stretch and bobbito - aged to perfection [just to cover the golden age]

[Volczek]

the listening - little brother
operation doomsday - mf doom
mad villainy - mad villain
beauty and the beat - edan
council estate of mind - skinnyman

all now skool classics, stop being so predictable. yes of course enter the..., illmatic, bizarre ride... etc etc are all super dope records but try and put people on to some other shit

your list is equally boring/predictable, tho. get off your horse.

my boring/predictable/(mostly) NYcentric list:

1. enter the wu-tang
2. ready to die
3. lifestylez of da poor and dangerous
4. paul's boutique
5. ATLiens

[THRILLHO]

the listening - little brother
operation doomsday - mf doom
mad villainy - mad villain
beauty and the beat - edan
council estate of mind - skinnyman

all now skool classics, stop being so predictable. yes of course enter the..., illmatic, bizarre ride... etc etc are all super dope records but try and put people on to some other shit

Edan I'd take the fuck off. It's not about predictability, it's about the records being essential. I couldn't sit someone down with madvilliany and convince them it was the bomb if they didn't like hip-hop on a deep level. They'd think it was garbage. The list needs to represent shit that convinces the music is not to be fucked with, not your nerdy, elitist postings.

Here's another one.

PE-It Takes a Nation of Millions
Outkast-Aquemini
B-Boys-Check Your Head (changed hip-hop forever, your little list wouldn't exist without this record. Pushed the limitations of the term 'Hip-Hop' and birthed said "other shit")
BIG-Ready to Die
Gangstarr-Moment of Truth

[THRILLHO]

clipse - lord willin
goodie mob - soul food
roots manuva - brand new second hand
dr octagon - octangonecologist
stretch and bobbito - aged to perfection [just to cover the golden age]

That's a list.

Roots manuva makes some great music, and is always able to sound like a wreck when he needs to. (y)

[So Ruff]

I guess I'll make 2 lists then...

personal favourites I think everyone should have the pleasure of hearing:

Redman - Whut? Thee Album (favourite shit ever)
Gang Starr - Daily Operation
OutKast - ATLiens (one of the 1st cds I ever bought)
Little Brother - The Minstrel Show (very quickly becoming one of my favs)
EPMD - Business Never Personal

essentials:

Reasonable Doubt (in case you don't yet know Jay-Z is the shit)
Illmatic
Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers
The Chronic
Raising Hell/Paul's Boutique/It Takes A Nation...

[Reginald]

Edan - Beauty and the Beat
Prince Paul - Itstrumental
Prince Paul - Psychoanalysis: What Is It?
De La Soul - Buhloone Mindstate
Prime Minister Pete Nice & Daddy Rich - Dust To Dust

[mickill]

Absolutely Essential:

It Takes A Nation Of Millions...
Raising Hell
Paid In Full
Straight Outta Compton
The Chronic

Essential:

The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick
EFIL4ZAGGIN
3 Feet High & Rising
Doggystyle
Radio

A Little Less Essential:

In God We Trust
Step In The Arena
By All Means Necessary
Bigger And Deffer
Long Live The Kane

Most Innovative:

Death Certificate
Fear Of A Black Planet
De La Soul Is Dead
Cypress Hill
ATLiens

Most Influential:

Criminal Minded
Strictly Business
The Blueprint
The Low End Theory
All Eyez On Me

Solid:

A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
Breaking Atoms
The Infamous
The Black Album
Aquemini

Near Perfect:

Paul's Boutique
Supreme Clientele
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
No One Can Do It Better
Midnight Marauders

Definitive:

Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Illmatic
Ready To Die
Reasonable Doubt
36 Chambers

Personal Favorites:

Devil's Night
Jackpot
Whitey Ford Sings The Blues
Da Baddest Bitch
MP Da Last Don
_________________

[Gareth]

i wonder what happened to gp wu...and pop da the brown hornet.
there was this one gp wu song that i thought was pretty cool but that was years ago now

[Ally Al]

no disrespect taken

but i think youre wrong.
im sure prince paul was influenced by many things, i cant see a direct correlation between LTI and 3 feet....
and the dust bros were doing their thing before PB..and sampling was a well established practice.
i just dont see the beasties as having had a major influence on any hip-hop trends in general. and after your post, i still cant ?

i mention Paul because he mentions the b boys in a whole load of interviews as a major influence on him at the time, and in as much as sampling was already an established practise PB took it a whole new level

[Ally Al]

[QUOTE=THRILLHO]Edan I'd take the fuck off. It's not about predictability, it's about the records being essential. I couldn't sit someone down with madvilliany and convince them it was the bomb if they didn't like hip-hop on a deep level. They'd think it was garbage. The list needs to represent shit that convinces the music is not to be fucked with, not your nerdy, elitist postings.


lol, calm down little man, and if you don't think beauty and the beat is essential then you're the one with the problem. Madvillain has a massive fanbase outside of the hardcore hip hop fanbase because doom has that leftfield appeal that non hiphoppers like so much. Also whats nerdy or elitist about little brother and skinnyman???


B-Boys-Check Your Head (changed hip-hop forever, your little list wouldn't exist without this record. Pushed the limitations of the term 'Hip-Hop' and birthed said "other shit")


erm you don't need to sell the b-boys to me son i've been buying their shit since 87. But explain to me little man how check your head "changed hip hop forever" and how my "little list wouldn't exist without this record" ??

[Ally Al]

Absolutely Essential:

It Takes A Nation Of Millions...
Raising Hell
Paid In Full
Straight Outta Compton
The Chronic

Essential:

The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick
EFIL4ZAGGIN
3 Feet High & Rising
Doggystyle
Radio

A Little Less Essential:

In God We Trust
Step In The Arena
By All Means Necessary
Bigger And Deffer
Long Live The Kane

Most Innovative:

Death Certificate
Fear Of A Black Planet
De La Soul Is Dead
Cypress Hill
ATLiens

Most Influential:

Criminal Minded
Strictly Business
The Blueprint
The Low End Theory
All Eyez On Me

Solid:

A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
Breaking Atoms
The Infamous
The Black Album
Aquemini

Near Perfect:

Paul's Boutique
Supreme Clientele
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
No One Can Do It Better
Midnight Marauders

Definitive:

Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Illmatic
Ready To Die
Reasonable Doubt
36 Chambers

Personal Favorites:

Devil's Night
Jackpot
Whitey Ford Sings The Blues
Da Baddest Bitch
MP Da Last Don
_________________


good post, your personal faves not exactly my bag, but a well thought out post (y)

[Ally Al]

your list is equally boring/predictable, tho. get off your horse.

my boring/predictable/(mostly) NYcentric list:

1. enter the wu-tang
2. ready to die
3. lifestylez of da poor and dangerous
4. paul's boutique
5. ATLiens


hmm i wouldn't say that predictable but maybe i was little pissed and bolshy when i made that post. that wasn't a definitive list by any means. just making the point that there are such things as modern classic. my list today would be

done by the forces of nature - the jungle bros
fear of a black planet - PE
long hot summer - masta ace
murs 3:16 the 9th edition - murs and 9th wonder
paid in full - eric b & rakim

[PaddyBoy]

hmm i wouldn't say that predictable but maybe i was little pissed and bolshy when i made that post. that wasn't a definitive list by any means. just making the point that there are such things as modern classic. my list today would be

done by the forces of nature - the jungle bros
fear of a black planet - PE
long hot summer - masta ace
murs 3:16 the 9th edition - murs and 9th wonder
paid in full - eric b & rakim

Nice list, But!...Rakim is my favourite MC, but Paid in Full is overrated i think. Long Hot Summer is solid, but doesn't really hit the heights of a classic.

Other Essentials:

NWA - Straight Outta Compton, def
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown (Best album title ever!)
Slick Rick - Great Adventures
Jungle Bros - Straight Out The Jungle

[Ally Al]

Nice list, But!...Rakim is my favourite MC, but Paid in Full is overrated i think. Long Hot Summer is solid, but doesn't really hit the heights of a classic.

now you see i love paid in full, when i first heard i know you got soul it fucking blew my mind and still does to this day(nearly 19 years ago, shit!!), plus i ain't no joke, paid in full, my melody, move the crowd, eric b is president etc etc, classic to me at least. i'd stand by long hot summer because i think ace gave the lyrical delivery of his career and i just love the how the story plays out through it. it's an album that in 10 years time i'll still be listening to you know ?

and you're dead right about critical beatdown i was listening to it the other day, most essential, classic cover too

[PaddyBoy]

now you see i love paid in full, when i first heard i know you got soul it fucking blew my mind and still does to this day(nearly 19 years ago, shit!!), plus i ain't no joke, paid in full, my melody, move the crowd, eric b is president etc etc, classic to me at least. i'd stand by long hot summer because i think ace gave the lyrical delivery of his career and i just love the how the story plays out through it. it's an album that in 10 years time i'll still be listening to you know ?

and you're dead right about critical beatdown i was listening to it the other day, most essential, classic cover too

OK, I take it back about Paid In Full. I think its the instrumentals that ruin it for me!

[Deep_Sea_Rain]

good post, your personal faves not exactly my bag, but a well thought out post (y)

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic. Really sarcastic.

[Ally Al]

OK, I take it back about Paid In Full. I think its the instrumentals that ruin it for me!

yeah, if i'm being honest they haven't aged very well but i loved them at the time so they still get a pass from me, just a very dated one

[Ally Al]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic. Really sarcastic.

well you never fucking know on these boards but thanks for the heads up

[adam_f]

Raising Hell
Mr. Smith
It Takes a Nation of Millions
Like Water For Chocolate
The Predator

My favorites of the moment. Any Outkast or Grandmaster Flash album could slide in there from time to time.

[Ally Al]

Like Water For Chocolate


Funky for you and 6th sense are my favourites, tight album

[Guy Incognito]

Who is Edan - can somebody help me out with a link or track names- never heard of :)

[Reginald]

Search for him yourself.

[THRILLHO]

[QUOTE=THRILLHO]Edan I'd take the fuck off. It's not about predictability, it's about the records being essential. I couldn't sit someone down with madvilliany and convince them it was the bomb if they didn't like hip-hop on a deep level. They'd think it was garbage. The list needs to represent shit that convinces the music is not to be fucked with, not your nerdy, elitist postings.


lol, calm down little man, and if you don't think beauty and the beat is essential then you're the one with the problem. Madvillain has a massive fanbase outside of the hardcore hip hop fanbase because doom has that leftfield appeal that non hiphoppers like so much. Also whats nerdy or elitist about little brother and skinnyman???


B-Boys-Check Your Head (changed hip-hop forever, your little list wouldn't exist without this record. Pushed the limitations of the term 'Hip-Hop' and birthed said "other shit")


erm you don't need to sell the b-boys to me son i've been buying their shit since 87. But explain to me little man how check your head "changed hip hop forever" and how my "little list wouldn't exist without this record" ??


Little man? Lucky for you I'm a fat cunt.

Check your Head stretched the limitations of what 'Hip-hop' meant in the context of a record. Since I could barely call Madvilliany hip-hop, I feel it falls under this sphere of influence.

Little Brother is dull as fuck too. Give it time and you might see this.

Yes 9th does really make those beats on Frooty Loops... :rolleyes:

Have fun covincing people those records are the dopeness, while everybody with taste will probably pick from the other lists in this thread.

[Ally Al]

Little man? Lucky for you I'm a fat cunt.

why does that make me lucky fat cunt, maybe instead of hitting them chubby fingers on your keyboard you should try a little exercise

Check your Head stretched the limitations of what 'Hip-hop' meant in the context of a record. Since I could barely call Madvilliany hip-hop, I feel it falls under this sphere of influence.


how the fuck is madvillainy not hip hop ???????? check your head didn't stretch the limitations of hip hop at all, in what way did time for livin stretch the limitations of hip hop ??? it gave the band a broader scope, not hip hop

Little Brother is dull as fuck too. Give it time and you might see this.

i won't see shit, little brother is dope

Yes 9th does really make those beats on Frooty Loops... :rolleyes:

so you've heard a murs track big deal, whats your actual point ?

Have fun covincing people those records are the dopeness, while everybody with taste will probably pick from the other lists in this thread.

LOL you're getting me confused with someone who gives a fuck about other peoples opinions on these boards. i've been listening to hip hop for 25 years so i'm big and brave enough to form my own opinions and don't need fat sheep like you to influence them in any way

[Kid Presentable]

Absolutely Essential:

It Takes A Nation Of Millions...
Raising Hell
Paid In Full
Straight Outta Compton
The Chronic

Essential:

The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick
EFIL4ZAGGIN
3 Feet High & Rising
Doggystyle
Radio

A Little Less Essential:

In God We Trust
Step In The Arena
By All Means Necessary
Bigger And Deffer
Long Live The Kane

Most Innovative:

Death Certificate
Fear Of A Black Planet
De La Soul Is Dead
Cypress Hill
ATLiens

Most Influential:

Criminal Minded
Strictly Business
The Blueprint
The Low End Theory
All Eyez On Me

Solid:

A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
Breaking Atoms
The Infamous
The Black Album
Aquemini

Near Perfect:

Paul's Boutique
Supreme Clientele
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
No One Can Do It Better
Midnight Marauders

Definitive:

Amerikkka's Most Wanted
Illmatic
Ready To Die
Reasonable Doubt
36 Chambers

Personal Favorites:

Devil's Night
Jackpot
Whitey Ford Sings The Blues
Da Baddest Bitch
MP Da Last Don
_________________


Once again. (y)

I'd just say that MP Da Last Don pales in comparison to Muskabeatz.

[THRILLHO]

LOL you're getting me confused with someone who gives a fuck about other peoples opinions on these boards. i've been listening to hip hop for 25 years so i'm big and brave enough to form my own opinions and don't need fat sheep like you to influence them in any way

Fat Sheep was my crew's name. We rocked mint-sauce as Aftershave, bitch.

[Guy Incognito]

Who is Edan - can somebody help me out with a link or track names- never heard of :)

Cheers to Ally for sending me some Edan stuff

I did put 5 old classic albums on my list but I would recommend Edan to anyone who wanted to know what hip hop was all about - got good beats, great rhymes, got a sense of humour and got great samples and a mixture of styles.

[cj hood]

pickin 5 EHA is like havin 6 kids and pickin your 5 favorite.......it can't be done!

[Kid Presentable]

beauty and the beat - edan
council estate of mind - skinnyman


I'm going to have to check out Edan.

Isn't skinnyman the one who uses that dope "If I make it to tomorrow, I'll be surprised" sample? If so, is the album any good?

[PaddyBoy]

I'm going to have to check out Edan.

Isn't skinnyman the one who uses that dope "If I make it to tomorrow, I'll be surprised" sample? If so, is the album any good?

Love that song!

[Kid Presentable]

Love that song!

So it is?

I smoked crazy ganja with dudes who sounded like him.

I was all "menenememenenenmenenmene Beastie Boys"

And they was all "BUJU BANTON BUCK BUCK BUCK!"

At least the weeds kept us in check.

[Ally Al]

Fat Sheep was my crew's name. We rocked mint-sauce as Aftershave, bitch.

wow, fat and unfunny, do you have anything going for you ??

[Ally Al]

Cheers to Ally for sending me some Edan stuff

I did put 5 old classic albums on my list but I would recommend Edan to anyone who wanted to know what hip hop was all about - got good beats, great rhymes, got a sense of humour and got great samples and a mixture of styles.

very welcome mate, (y)

[Ally Al]

I'm going to have to check out Edan.

Isn't skinnyman the one who uses that dope "If I make it to tomorrow, I'll be surprised" sample? If so, is the album any good?

yes thats skinnyman, the album is dope you should check it

also check your inbox in a couple of minutes

[Guy Incognito]

Skinnyman good live too - saw him support Goldie Lookin Chain last year

[Ally Al]

Skinnyman good live too - saw him support Goldie Lookin Chain last year

what sort of reaction did he get from the GLC crowd ?

also if you like your hip hop a bit more humorous, do you have any pitman ?

[PaddyBoy]

yes thats skinnyman, the album is dope you should check it

also check your inbox in a couple of minutes

You're like Santa Clause running a month late! Fair play...

[Ally Al]

You're like Santa Clause running a month late! Fair play...

:D

just spreading the word you know, gives the artist the exposure and hopefully the extra sales

[mickill]

If we're going the atypical route here, I'd recommend:

Slaughtahouse - Masta Ace (Nothing he's done since is touching it, including Long Hot Summer)
Neva Dated - Milk (I had twice as much respect for El P after reading him list this as among the most slept-on joints ever)
Da Shinin' - Smif N Wessun
Firing Squad - M.O.P.
Live And Let Die - Kool G Rap & DJ Polo

Ain't A Damn Thang Changed - WC & The MAAD Circle (Like Amerikkka's Most Wanted Lite. Seriously)
Sickinnahead - Threat
Neva Again - Kam
Guerilla's In The Mist - Da Lench Mob
Music To Driveby - Compton's Most Wanted
The Triflin' Album - King Tee

Before the West Coast got all synth happy and started making weak Chronic rip-offs, dudes were making East Coast production look pathetic by comparison. And Kam and Threat both should have been as big as Cube.

[mickill]

As far as recent shit goes, I don't see a lot of it as "essential" listening. There's good things happening, but most rap albums today are either too formulaic or too far to the left for me. Throwback shit like J5 and Edan is cool, but I don't see the point in going that route much. The Minstrel Show gave me some faith in Little Brother because I thought The Listening was the most overrated "underrated" shit ever. All the MF Doom shit, in all of his various incarnations is pretty boring to me. I'm not in the habit of listening to dude's spitting like they're gonna fall asleep any minute. I think it's just the hip thing or something to like his shit. I seriously don't see the big deal with Skinnyman either. I think he's kinda average as hell. I Will Be Surprised is the only thing I've heard by him that I actually cared for.

Also, Dust To Dust is cool, but I wouldn't say it's essential. It was definitely slept on, though. I think The Product (MC Serch) wasn't bad either. But there's no way in hell Black Sunday was better than the first Cypress album.

[Guy Incognito]

what sort of reaction did he get from the GLC crowd ?

also if you like your hip hop a bit more humorous, do you have any pitman ?

Was a bit under the influence that night but he went down ok - heard pitman - not bad the roots manuva track is funny

[Guy Incognito]

. But there's no way in hell Black Sunday was better than the first Cypress album.

Damn right - Some of Black Sunday was just a re hash (geddit!) of stuff on the first album. Dont get me wrong its good but not a patch on the first one.

[Ally Al]

If we're going the atypical route here, I'd recommend:

Slaughtahouse - Masta Ace (Nothing he's done since is touching it, including Long Hot Summer)
Neva Dated - Milk (I had twice as much respect for El P after reading him list this as among the most slept-on joints ever)
Da Shinin' - Smif N Wessun
Firing Squad - M.O.P.
Live And Let Die - Kool G Rap & DJ Polo

Ain't A Damn Thang Changed - WC & The MAAD Circle (Like Amerikkka's Most Wanted Lite. Seriously)
Sickinnahead - Threat
Neva Again - Kam
Guerilla's In The Mist - Da Lench Mob
Music To Driveby - Compton's Most Wanted
The Triflin' Album - King Tee

Before the West Coast got all synth happy and started making weak Chronic rip-offs, dudes were making East Coast production look pathetic by comparison. And Kam and Threat both should have been as big as Cube.


see i like slaughtahouse a lot but long hot summer struck more of a chord with me. both the g rap and mop joints are heat. NEVA AGAIN fuck! i have that on tape somewhere recently managed to get hold of drama now that is a fucking track. Da lench mob, top notch, freedom got an AK and ain't got no class are my joints of there.

i'd agree to some level on the production tip but wasn't that just the bomb squad influence ? i

[Ally Al]

[QUOTE=mickill]As far as recent shit goes, I don't see a lot of it as "essential" listening. There's good things happening, but most rap albums today are either too formulaic or too far to the left for me. Throwback shit like J5 and Edan is cool, but I don't see the point in going that route much. The Minstrel Show gave me some faith in Little Brother because I thought The Listening was the most overrated "underrated" shit ever. All the MF Doom shit, in all of his various incarnations is pretty boring to me. I'm not in the habit of listening to dude's spitting like they're gonna fall asleep any minute. I think it's just the hip thing or something to like his shit. I seriously don't see the big deal with Skinnyman either. I think he's kinda average as hell. I Will Be Surprised is the only thing I've heard by him that I actually cared for.

see i don't see edan as throwback so much these days, first album beatwise there's a nod to the golden era but lyrically it was very current, and beauty and the beat just took hip hop somewhere else.

little brother i love so you know, each to their own, love 9th's beats and poo and phonte are both good mc's in my book

love doom, love his flow and i think the beats are incredible, might be hip for some but not me

and skinnyman, what can i say ? you think he's average, i think he rips shit so it's just horses for courses, opinions and arseholes etc etc

it's all just personal opinion at the end of the day

[dave790]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7BUBLSS7

All the essential hip hop of today you need.

[Ally Al]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7BUBLSS7

All the essential hip hop of today you need.

thanks for this, nice track, i should check TF more often

[dave790]

Nah man, nice one on checking it out (y)

You should, these days I hardly look past taskforce in terms of UK Hip Hop

[Lex Diamonds]

I wouldn't list any UK hip hop in a top 5 essential albums. But if you wanna talk about it, don't forget the Chain (http://www.youknowsit.co.uk). I know they seem dumb sometimes, but when you see them in interviews and shit they are actually comedy geniuses (genii?) and their main appeal to me is that they rap about the real shit that's goin on the streets (like getting drunk and having a kebab and a fight), instead of cash drivebys and bitches.


ps
Go Maggot!

[roosta]

Cannibal OX - the Cold Vein, if mainly for Vast Aire's lyrics. I think they're intriguing, there so much layers to them, so much to think about.

[wrongwayandugg]

a lotta you got me just amazed. i read this 'beastie's never really changed anything' bullshit too often on these boards. so let me do you a favor and set it straight. give me your fucking hand right now.

please, everybody, stay off the beastie boy dick. modern hip-hop would be even more ignorant if Adam, Adam, and D hadn't contributed their talent to the gene pool.

you motherfuckers who don't know squat in the first place fail to realize that beastie boys have been sampled by some of the most groundbreaking rap artists. i'm not gonna name them. you know why? because your narrow-minded assholes should have to figure it out. you owe it to yourself, G. (y) :) (y)

do your fucking homework. listen to something besides young MC, funkmaster flex and 3 doors down. you lack history and imagination.

fuck you, Mister and Misses hip-hop head. you know jack shit.

[wrongwayandugg]

a lotta you got me just amazed. i read this 'beastie's never really changed anything' bullshit too often on these boards. so let me do you a favor and set it straight. give me your fucking hand right now.

please, everybody, stay off the beastie boy dick. modern hip-hop would be even more ignorant if Adam, Adam, and D hadn't contributed their talent to the gene pool.

you motherfuckers who don't know squat in the first place fail to realize that beastie boys have been sampled by some of the most groundbreaking rap artists. i'm not gonna name them. you know why? because your narrow-minded assholes should have to figure it out. you owe it to yourself, G. (y) :) (y)

do your fucking homework. listen to something besides young MC, funkmaster flex and 3 doors down. you lack history and imagination.

fuck you, Mister and Misses hip-hop head. you know jack shit.

now i'd like to apologize for being so brash.

there really are bigger things going on this world right now besides people who don't know how to listen to music. we're in the middle of a major nuclear crisis. god bless. god help us.

for the record, i have nothing but love for my beastie boys message boarders. no lie. i just had to release my emotion.

[Tzar]

i said no to S.O.Compton which was on sale for $12AUD :(

i regret it now.

[Kid Presentable]

I peeped Edan. Beauty and the Beat. Real disappointed. The dude's kicking some beatnick shit, for sure. He seems to think he's a Beatle. The album was pretty much unlistenable, except for Words that Rhyme, or whatever it's called. Not my choice of hip-hop, but thanks anyway. It was cool of Ally to hook errbody up.

So I threw on Op. Doomsday, and was back where I wanted to be.

I'll put that on my list, along with:

Paul's Boutique (come on, we can blame this for Edan)
Blueprint
The Chronic
Raising Hell

but whatevs. My list is nothing special.

[Ally Al]

[QUOTE=Kid Presentable]I peeped Edan. Beauty and the Beat. Real disappointed. The dude's kicking some beatnick shit, for sure. He seems to think he's a Beatle. The album was pretty much unlistenable, except for Words that Rhyme, or whatever it's called. Not my choice of hip-hop, but thanks anyway. It was cool of Ally to hook errbody up.

So I threw on Op. Doomsday, and was back where I wanted to be.

thats a shame man. i think he was trying to make a psychadelic hip hop album, works for me anyways. did you try primitive plus ? 2 totally different animals musically

(y) for doomsday

[Guy Incognito]

[QUOTE=Kid Presentable]I peeped Edan. Beauty and the Beat. Real disappointed. The dude's kicking some beatnick shit, for sure. He seems to think he's a Beatle. The album was pretty much unlistenable, except for Words that Rhyme, or whatever it's called. Not my choice of hip-hop, but thanks anyway. It was cool of Ally to hook errbody up.

So I threw on Op. Doomsday, and was back where I wanted to be.

QUOTE]

What is Op. Doomsday ( another EDAN album?) and yes it was ace of Ally to send people that. (y)

I liked Beauty and the beat and i do agree with you a little about it being hard to listen to but thers loads of hip hop like that- it was a bit different but at least he tried. But yeah , Primitive plus is ace.

[Ally Al]

[
What is Op. Doomsday ( another EDAN album?) and yes it was ace of Ally to send people that. (y)

shit mate no worries, especially after all the good stuff you've sent, thats chems comp is heat seriously

op doom is operation doomsday by MF Doom if you don't have any doom stuff let me know

[PaddyBoy]

I peeped Edan. Beauty and the Beat. Real disappointed. The dude's kicking some beatnick shit, for sure. He seems to think he's a Beatle. The album was pretty much unlistenable, except for Words that Rhyme, or whatever it's called. Not my choice of hip-hop, but thanks anyway. It was cool of Ally to hook errbody up.



I agree, it doesn't do it for me. A few good songs on it but overall it can be a pain in the ass to listen to!

[Chad the Lad]

NAs illmatic
beasties - pauls boutique
jay z - blueprint
Wu tang - 36 chambers
outkast - stankonia

[Lex Diamonds]

Safe, loads of replies. I want to actually make a little Top 5 list so everyone on the boards can make sure they've checked 'em all out.

Can we somehow combine everyone's replies into a definitive Top 5 list? I'd do it myself only I'm lazy and unmotivated.

[Guy Incognito]

Safe, loads of replies. I want to actually make a little Top 5 list so everyone on the boards can make sure they've checked 'em all out.

Can we somehow combine everyone's replies into a definitive Top 5 list? I'd do it myself only I'm lazy and unmotivated.

I've just had a quick search thru this whole thread and the 5 that i spotted the most were- in no particular order -

Raising Hell - Run DMC
Illmatic - Nas
3 Feet High & Rising - De La Soul
It Takes A Nation Of Millions - Public Enemy
Straight Outta Compton - NWA

Pauls Boutique gotta lot shouts as well. Actually Illmatic probably takes the award for most nominated. I dont know if anyone actually wants to work it out properly - i just read the posts and these 5 just kept comin up. I didnt write down a count.

[Lex Diamonds]

I've just had a quick search thru this whole thread and the 5 that i spotted the most were- in no particular order -

Raising Hell - Run DMC
Illmatic - Nas
3 Feet High & Rising - De La Soul
It Takes A Nation Of Millions - Public Enemy
Straight Outta Compton - NWA

Pauls Boutique gotta lot shouts as well. Actually Illmatic probably takes the award for most nominated. I dont know if anyone actually wants to work it out properly - i just read the posts and these 5 just kept comin up. I didnt write down a count.
Yeah, that looks pretty good.

NWA are the only West Coast group to get on there. That seems about right. Nigga they started this gangsta shit...

[Ally Al]

Yeah, that looks pretty good.

NWA are the only West Coast group to get on there. That seems about right. Nigga they started this gangsta shit...


lets not forget ice t, and possibly schooly d before that (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

lets not forget ice t, and possibly schooly d before that (y)
Fair enough to Ice T, but I wouldn't exactly describe Schoolly D as G. And I'm talkin' the CPT/LBC type gangsta shit.

You know what I mean anyway.

[Ally Al]

Fair enough to Ice T, but I wouldn't exactly describe Schoolly D as G. And I'm talkin' the CPT/LBC type gangsta shit.

You know what I mean anyway.


parkside killers son !!

but yeah, i know what you mean

[paece!-man]

Don't forget the Grandmaster of all Grandmasters:
Flash

Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel was the first multisample record ever. If that is not essential.

[Bobtwi]

Pharcyde-Bizzare Ride,BDP-Criminal Minded,RUN-D.M.C-RUN-D.M.C.,Three Times Dope-Greatest man alive(I think thats the title,1st album)EPMD-Strictley Buisness!Runner up has to be Schooly D's album with Parkside Killers and Gucci Time.

[DigitalB]

GZA - Liquid Swords
Wu-Tang - Enter 36 Chambers
Rza as Bobby Digital - Bobby Digital
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Wu-Tang - WuTang

[Kid Presentable]

Rza as Bobby Digital - Bobby Digital

Wu-Tang - WuTang

Why that one?

And what's the other one?

[EN[i]GMA]

Why that one?


Seriously, I thought that album was pretty wack.

[DigitalB]

GMA']Seriously, I thought that album was pretty wack.

Bobby Digital is Wack??? Are you serious?

[Kid Presentable]

Bobby Digital is Wack??? Are you serious?
My Lovin is Digi is choice, the rest is meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh....

[funk63]

um
bboys-pauls botique
nas-illmatic
sublime-sublime
bboys-check your head
rolling stones-hot rocks

oh and the beatles

[Audio.]

too many to tell.
Hardcore rap:
Gangstarr
Del de funkee homosapien
Lord Finesse
Afrikabambataa (ofcourse the godfather of the culture)
any one in random in the late seventies.


My second fav is Aesop Rock and Dj Jazzy Jeff and Dj Jazzy Jay and Dj Inzi and Guru

Gangsta Rap....N.W.A. and Tupac and B.I.G. and Rakim and some others...

For plain rap: Special Ed, Salt 'n Peppa, Beastie Boys, Fatlip and Jay Z
and many more.

[Lex Diamonds]

If you have never heard a hip hop album before in your life:

Run-DMC - Raising Hell
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Nas - Illmatic
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers
Dr. Dre - 2001

[g-mile7]

your on a roll today in reuping yo threads son'

[Lex Diamonds]

Haha yeah I was lookin for some thread I started long ago and I kept finding old ones that I liked. :D (y)

[g-mile7]

2pac: Makaveli
Jay-Z:BluePrint
Nas:Illmatic
Rakim:Follow The Leader
Wu-Tang:Forever ;)

[Next of Kin]

Gangstarr : Hard to Earn
Beastie Boys : Pauls Boutique
Public Enemy : It takes a nation of millions to hold us back
Q-Tip : Amplified
Grave Diggaz : 6 Feet Deep

This was on my mind right now ...ive proberbly forgot some who should be there instead but...Yeah

[M.C. Guevera]

Gee, putting together 5 essential hip-hop albums is hard, but I'd put It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back and Paul's Boutique as #1 and #2 respectively, no doubt.

I wish the era of free sampling was still around.

And I see Public Enemy's first three albums mentioned, but how come nobody ever talks about Apocalyspe '91: The Enemy Strikes Black?

[BangkokB]

Steppenwolf
Jimi Hendrix
Yes
Elton John
James Brown