Solid Gold Shits

[Kid Presentable]

So the NY times reports that SGH sold only 140 000 copies.

Well, some record label fucks are gonna try and blame the Beasties for that, right? And they won't acknowledge the fact that the idea of a greatest-hits package is straight up retarded.

I'm pissed that A: The Beastie Boys had to release such a mediocre album, in terms of its performance; and B: That some dipshit at a record label will probably see its underwhelming sales as something to blame on the band, and not their own short-sighted idiocy.

Good on the B-boys for ceremoniously playing along.

I guess it's not really my place to be angry.

:mad:

[talita]

140 000 in the whole world?

[ScarySquirrel]

Personally, I think it was a retarded idea to release a greatest hits album when they've pretty much already had one released... The Sounds of Science.

Besides, what's the point in buying a greatest hits album when I already have all those tracks?

[Laver1969]

I like the dvd. Having all the vids plus some alternate angles...plus the Brass Monkey video too.

But...yeah. Okay.

[kleptomaniac]

Besides, what's the point in buying a greatest hits album when I already have all those tracks?

well, i only bought it for the dvd :cool:

I'm pissed that A: The Beastie Boys had to release such a mediocre album, in terms of its performance; and B: That some dipshit at a record label will probably see its underwhelming sales as something to blame on the band, and not their own short-sighted idiocy.

Good on the B-boys for ceremoniously playing along.

things happen, so let's just take it and move on (lb)

like, another album? hmm? can't wait for that.... (y)

[Kid Presentable]

Personally, I think it was a retarded idea to release a greatest hits album when they've pretty much already had one released... The Sounds of Science.

Besides, what's the point in buying a greatest hits album when I already have all those tracks?

Exactly. There couldn't really be a better intro to the group and their ecclecticism than SOS.

But what I'm getting at is the trickle-down effect of this shitty release. Like how it makes them look, in the eyes of the label and non-fans alike.

[talita]

140 000 in the whole world or only in USA?

The SGH is a cd for the people who enjoy BBoys, but arent really fans... and for collectors as well...
Who is a real fan, but thinks this is expendable, SGH is no more than a product to get your money... and give it not to bboys, but to their label.

[talita]

and, besides it all, THE SGH HAS NO DVD IN LATIN AMERICA!
AWFUL

[kleptomaniac]

But what I'm getting at is the trickle-down effect of this shitty release. Like how it makes them look, in the eyes of the label and non-fans alike.

most non-fans of the beasties probably don't even know about solid gold hits...i wouldn't have known if i didn't check this website every day.


i see what you mean though :(

yeah, but let's not keep dwelling on that....solid gold shits blah blah blah....
the label shouldn't dwell on that either....everybody, just stop dwelling plz :rolleyes:

[ggirlballa]

most non-fans of the beasties probably don't even know about solid gold hits...i wouldn't have known if i didn't check this website every day.



i didn't know that they had released SGH untill i saw a huge billboard advertising it on Sunset Blvd.

and i've only seen 3 ads advertising SGH since it's release date and now. :(
and i've probally seen like a million ads for the BIGGIE greatest hits cd :eek:

[Justin]

Personally, I think it was a retarded idea to release a greatest hits album when they've pretty much already had one released... The Sounds of Science.

Besides, what's the point in buying a greatest hits album when I already have all those tracks?

The whole solid gold hits was Capital Records concept.

I also do not believe Capital done a great job with advertisements. When I bought the record I had to ask for it because I couldnt find it. You also had to pick the cd up and read carefully to actually know that there was a dvd included

This record would have done better if Capital done a better job with the advertising.

I would have put the old school Beastie Boys logo on the cover instead of the photo they used as well. I believe more customers would have picked up the cd if they were able to pick the cd out from a further distance

[talita]

mtv plays a lot of advertising for SGH.

[Justin]

whats mtv?

[Kid Presentable]

The whole solid gold hits was Capital Records concept.

I also do not believe Capital done a great job with advertisements. When I bought the record I had to ask for it because I couldnt find it. You also had to pick the cd up and read carefully to actually know that there was a dvd included

This record would have done better if Capital done a better job with the advertising.

I would have put the old school Beastie Boys logo on the cover instead of the photo they used as well. I believe more customers would have picked up the cd if they were able to pick the cd out from a further distance

It's odd that it was Capitol's shitty idea in the first place, and then they promote it in a way that would bury the band.

[Jmoney77]

I didnt buy it because i have all of thier cds and the anthology, im sure thats whats everyone else did that would explain low sale numbers

[FearandLoathing]

When I read the article (I was gonna mention this in the thread, but it felt like a downer to an otherwise positive article) I was bothered by the way the journalist called it the Beastie Boys' latest album- which I guess it is, but I thought it might give the impression to non-fans/casual fans that it was a studio album. The problem is, SGH might be hailed as a creative Beastie Boys release, and people will take the sales of it as proof of a waning popularity of the band (and I don't think that the popularity of the band is waning). Mediocre sales of this album are obviously reflecting badly on the Beastie Boys (which obviously makes me sad).

Some friends mentioned they saw SGH ads here, but I didn't, which really shows the breadth of the advertising, I think. If the advertisement/s was/were on high enough rotation to be noticed, surely I would've caught one (though I admittedly don't really watch tv much).

I don't know. I guess I just feel pissed that this happens to ALL my favourite acts. There never seems to be enough publicity for them. And somehow I care about that, as if it's losing me money.

[talita]

whats mtv?

LATIN MTV.

[synch]

As many others, I bought it for the dvd even though I have the anthology thing.

It was worth it for the stingray bit alone though.

[Axl Z]

jusr brought it for the dvd from hmv for £2.99 (had a £10 voucher from a mate!)

[Weezman]

I wouldnt have know about the SGH, if it wasnt for this website.
I agree on the poor markrting, and/or advertising.

I also didnt see a point on the SGH album, some of us could have done a better job if we were to release somthing like that. But it has already been done w/SoS.

The only thing that I really got out of the whole deal (SGH) was the incitful interviews that the boys gave on each track. (y)

The DVD was also a treat im sure.

F'ckin Capitol got theirs, i guess.

As far as im concerned it really wasnt an album....TT5B was the last album.....i'll wait for the next one patiently....i know it will be worth it.

- WEezMan! :cool:

[Kid Presentable]

When I read the article (I was gonna mention this in the thread, but it felt like a downer to an otherwise positive article) I was bothered by the way the journalist called it the Beastie Boys' latest album- which I guess it is, but I thought it might give the impression to non-fans/casual fans that it was a studio album. The problem is, SGH might be hailed as a creative Beastie Boys release, and people will take the sales of it as proof of a waning popularity of the band (and I don't think that the popularity of the band is waning). Mediocre sales of this album are obviously reflecting badly on the Beastie Boys (which obviously makes me sad).

Some friends mentioned they saw SGH ads here, but I didn't, which really shows the breadth of the advertising, I think. If the advertisement/s was/were on high enough rotation to be noticed, surely I would've caught one (though I admittedly don't really watch tv much).

I don't know. I guess I just feel pissed that this happens to ALL my favourite acts. There never seems to be enough publicity for them. And somehow I care about that, as if it's losing me money.


Precisely.

[dave790]

Thanks for that ^ ^ ^ there was a lot I didn't know or consider.

Just on this Capitol business, I really do miss the Beasties being in more control of their output. I remember Yauch saying how they really wanted An Open Letter to NYC to be the 2nd single, and although it's easier to say it now I think and would've thought that would have been the best idea.

Ch-Check It Out was a hit, following it up with An Open Letter in my opinion would have worked much better than Triple Trouble. Radio's would've dug it a lot more, and I just think that drooping AOLTNYC as 2nd single would've really boosted TT5B's sale further. I know I'm just citing a single example, but I think if the Beasties were in control more again it would've done better.

I don't know how much input the Beasties and Grand Royal had into promotions before, whether that was Capitol in the past as well as now being dominant, but for me I thought they were a tad lacklusture in the TT5B campaign, and even more so with Solid Gold Hits.

[fonky pizza]

Honestly, I listened to the whole record 3 times and watched the dvd a cuople of times.

It's just not a Beastie record, it's just a compilation.

By the way the Hey Ladies sound is boosted!!!! :rolleyes:

[Chicka B]

I love the video angles! A lot of my friends bought it for the song Brass Monkey, then they liked the other songs on there. :D But it's not the Beastie Boys fault, Capital Records made them release it right? And then they were fine with it. Oh well, I liked it atleast.

[b-grrrlie]

As many others, I bought it for the dvd even though I have the anthology thing.

It was worth it for the stingray bit alone though.
Me too and agree.

I went to my record store and just nodded to the shelf where the cd+ dvd was and they knew what I wanted! :D

[YoungRemy]

Sales figures are tricky....
Simply put, because there are two versions, reports of SGH's sales figures by the media might be grossly inaccurate.

i would subscribe to this theory...

still though, it seems the record label strongarmed the band into something they didnt want to do...

[laurie_hammy]

The DVD is FRESSSHHHHH

[adrock14]

i am not sure if this is true, but I seem to remember a article on here about capitol tellin Yauch that SGH had to be released in order for AIFST to come out. so technicly if that is true info, then yauch was doin it for the fans, not the dough. (y) :D

[Kid Presentable]

i am not sure if this is true, but I seem to remember a article on here about capitol tellin Yauch that SGH had to be released in order for AIFST to come out. so technicly if that is true info, then yauch was doin it for the fans, not the dough. (y) :D

Nobody is ever accusing Yauch of doing anything for anybody but the fans. He's one of us, it seems, and that's all good.

[adrock14]

Yauch is one of us,(so is diamond and horovitz) (y)

[DandyFop]

I do think it's kind of strange to have SGH when Sounds of Science is out there - BUT, it's not uncommon at all for bands that have been around as long as the Beasties to have multiple "hits" albums.

I am a casual fan of quite a few bands that I own a greatest hits album of - Queen, Prince, Neil Diamond, etc. None of these were albums that I rushed out and purchased right after it came out - I just saw it in a store one day and decided to get it. This is how SGH will be, I think - just something that the casual fan will buy one day in the record store, making the purchasing numbers grow over the years.

I can't really comment on SGH being well-advertised because I always knew about it since I come here...I don't really watch a ton of TV and I especially don't watch MTV.

[talita]

SGH was a merchandising mistake.

[dave790]

The thing about Sounds of Science was that it may well have been a best of but it was unique to the Beasties, and definitely something else when comapred to other bands best ofs or greatest hits collections.

Maybe I'm thinking it was more respectable. I loved how it was their favourite songs, from all the era's and all the genres they've visited, whilst covering the majority of the hits, and putting in rarities and unreleased shit. It also had the comments on how each track came about, not uncommon, but something I love about the anthology.

The way they did it was so Beastie Boys...different yet great for the fans and still serving a purpose. I have a lot of friends who got that to start with the Beasties, and at first they'd be like 'well half of it is shit'. But now they love each and every moment.

My criticism then is that it was like doing the a brilliant alternative to your typical career spanning CD's from artists, but then putting out a basic hits thing anyway. That's aimed at Capitol, not the Beasties. Again, if only they were still in complete control.

[DJ_Skrilla]

Well its like the AOL article says a Greatest Hits should have of had a better tracklist. With so many AWESOME tracks to choose from in there entire catalog, there could have been others included.
Of course the tracklist is subjective to who you ask.

[Kid Presentable]

I'm intrigued by this statement. How is he like one of us?


He posts here, plays video games and likes rap music. He's like me, anyway. :D


yes. it would have been better if they took a couple of songs from each album like:

fight for your right
no sleep till brooklyn
hey ladies
shadrach
so wacha want
pass the mike
sabatoge
gratitude
sure shot
root down
intergalatic
body movin
ch ch check it out
right right now now


any average beastie fan would have snatched this up.

While I appreciate what you're trying to do, I don't see how your listing woud cause anybody to be more or less inclined to purchase a Hits package. We're all average Beastie fans, and most of us scooped SGH as it was.

The thing about Sounds of Science was that it may well have been a best of but it was unique to the Beasties, and definitely something else when comapred to other bands best ofs or greatest hits collections.

Maybe I'm thinking it was more respectable. I loved how it was their favourite songs, from all the era's and all the genres they've visited, whilst covering the majority of the hits, and putting in rarities and unreleased shit. It also had the comments on how each track came about, not uncommon, but something I love about the anthology.

And that's what I liked about SOS. It was a Beatsie Boys playlist, of Beatsie Boys original music. It had personality; people flipped for it. In a number of Aus. publications at the time it was viewed as 'Essential' and generally considered the best way to catch the wave of the most innovative band of the 20th century. The booklet and presentation was top notch. Many people say that they'd pay to hear the boys humming into cans;by that token how could you not love their collected musings on their own material?

SGH is product. Nobody could blame the Boys for it, cause Yauch had the balls to allude to it being a record label thing. It's cold, crass shelf filler. The DVD is the only part that has any Beatsie feel to it. I'm sure he walked a line there too, in regards to defaming the label's decision, but maybe not.

[Laver1969]

SGH is product. Nobody could blame the Boys for it, cause Yauch had the balls to allude to it being a record label thing. It's cold, crass shelf filler. The DVD is the only part that has any Beatsie feel to it. I'm sure he walked a line there too, in regards to defaming the label's decision, but maybe not.

Well said, well spoken.

[dave790]

It had personality



That's what I was looking to say! I've got no huge bitterness towards SGH, as i said I just thought they did the whole career collection thing in the best possible way with Sounds