The Ghostface Killah "Fish Scale" thread.

[roosta]

I cant wait for this..

Ive heard 3 songs...
"Be Easy" top notch..Pete Rock. yadda yadda. But is it gonna be on it?
"Back Like That" cant make my mind up bout this. Its pretty good. Someone described it as a much better "Never been the same again". Could do without the pretty boy rap-n-bullshit.
"Charlie Brown" (MF Doom prod.) HOLY FUCK. only heard a wee snipped..but fuck me. Top class.

and the cover (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/kris_stivers/ghostface.jpg)
is brilliant.

i nicked this from mickills post in the "kilo's" thread...

1. Shakey Dog (prod Lewis Parker)
2. Kilos feat. Raekwon (prod MoSS)
3. Be Easy (prod Pete Rock)
4. Charlie Brown (prod MF Doom)
5. Barber Shop (prod Studio Steve)
6. Big Girl (prod Ghostface)
7. Bricks feat. Biggie and Raekwon (prod Cool & Dre)
8. Dawn feat. Capadonna (no producer info)
9. Back like that feat. Ne-Yo (prod Xtreme)
10. Chunky (prod Pete Rock)
11. Wu Joint (prod MF Doom)
12. Clips of Doom (prod MF Doom)
13. Whip You With A Strap (prod J Dilla)
14. Dawn feat. Capadonna & Trife (prod MF Doom)
15. Rae & Ghost (no producer info)
16. Underwater (prod MF Doom)
17. Can Can feat. Shawna & Shareefa (prod Ghostface)
18. Crackspot (prod Crack Val)
19. Family Affair (prod Pete Rock)

just look at the producers....
wowserooney.

[mickill]

If you haven't heard Kilos yet, you still have a lot to look forward to, man. Rae and Ghost flow like liquid on that track.

[roosta]

If you haven't heard Kilos yet, you still have a lot to look forward to, man. Rae and Ghost flow like liquid on that track.

i must go find it right now.

[saml]

oh man where the fuck did you hear "Charlie Brown"?

[roosta]

oh man where the fuck did you hear "Charlie Brown"?

i have my sources...
its a VERY short clip from a radio show, and the dj spins it back after bout one minute, but man oh man, what a song....

[saml]

i have my sources...
its a VERY short clip from a radio show, and the dj spins it back after bout one minute, but man oh man, what a song....

so you got it on your comp? :) hint hint, nudge nudge

[roosta]

ill sort you out man

"kilos" is great!
this could be a great album...

[Kid Presentable]

Shit, I'm still trying to replace my Ironman album. (n)

[Monsieur Decuts]

dopeness.

Remember when they came out and everyone was like "GHOSTFACE KILLAH" that guy must be a racist out to kill white people I hate him.

Haha idiots

[g-mile7]

this should be dope (y) any clue on when it's dropping this year?

[mickill]

It drops at the end of Feb.

Fishscale's uncut raw coke.

[mickill]

No, weight's just large quantities, like when it's sold or bought by the key. You're talking about cut powder, though. Raw coke is different, it's not the same texture. It's not even white. It actually looks like ground up fish scales. And it's usually not sold in that form.

[Ally Al]

No, weight's just large quantities, like when it's sold or bought by the key. You're talking about cut powder, though. Raw coke is different, it's not the same texture. It's not even white. It actually looks like ground up fish scales. And it's usually not sold in that form.

China white, mother pearl, ivory flake, what you neeeeeeed......

mick you fbi or escobar ??

[mickill]

Let's just say that I know people that know people that know people that know people that can get you that raw.

[Monsieur Decuts]

^ get him Harper

[Ally Al]

Let's just say that I know people that know people that know people that know people that can get you that raw.


ok, i'm in, but nothing is going in the arse

[SobaViolence]

^ get him Harper

lolz

[Rip Round'n Roc]

that song with biggie sucks

here's the 5 track sampler for the album
http://www.punchdouble.com/music/ghostface/

[Auton]

Charlie Brown is amazing

thanks RRR

[EN[i]GMA]

Fucking first verse on Be Easy is ill as fuck.

[g-mile7]

Charlie Brown is amazing

thanks RRR


now I really wanna hear this track

[saml]

jesus christ this album is gonna be so fucking dope... can't wait!

[roosta]

Charlie Brown the full track is fucking out of this world.

Cheers Al................................................ .................... ;)

[Ally Al]

Charlie Brown the full track is fucking out of this world.

Cheers Al................................................ .................... ;)

very welcome (y)

[The Notorious LOL]

I dont find charlie brown to be all that fantastic. I mean, its okay. Eh.

[roosta]

I dont find charlie brown to be all that fantastic. I mean, its okay. Eh.

ahh...i think its top notch...............

[Auton]

nevermind

[The Notorious LOL]

its kind of hard to tell with edited shit. I didnt like Be Easy til I heard the unedited version.

[Kid Presentable]

That Charlie Brown track is average.

[laserx54]

Um.....stupid question(s):


Where the hell is RZA on this? Does he produce Wu solo efforts anymore? What the hell is he doing these days??

[The Notorious LOL]

rza only produced two tracks on Supreme Clientele, and thats one of the best Wu Tang Clan Band related albums released.

[Kid Presentable]

It's fair to say less RZA can be a good thing.

Unless you want it all to sound like Ghost Dog. Although Strange Eyes wasn't bad.

[g-mile7]

heard a sample of the track "Charlie B" have to say I'm impressed :)

[mickill]

Supposedly, this (http://www.spinemagazine.com/pix/fishreal.jpg) is the "real" Fishscale cover.

I think both of these supposed covers are kinda cheap looking, either way.

[roosta]

the other one is much better

[Auton]

yeah this one's kind of terrible. i hope that's not the cover

[g-mile7]

yeah this one's kind of terrible. i hope that's not the cover


I concur

[pshabi]

oh yeah btw...

you notice none off these guys are reppin that Wu Logo anymore?

:confused:
I knew I was gonna regret this fucking tatoo. :mad:

[pshabi]

I'm assuming this isn't the complete track, only a preview.

I like it.

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X3G7AIIWUH3N1G7T3CEU2GGOS

[mickill]

Rap's too violent (http://youtube.com/w/Old-School-%28Ghostface%29?v=9tKnbF_hZfs&search=rakim)

[g-mile7]

I knew I was gonna regret this fucking tatoo. :mad:



don't regret shit they still rep the Wu-symbol


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/GthePromoter/Gspics001.jpg



fuckin' baking soda...



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/GthePromoter/Gspics015.jpg

[EN[i]GMA]

Rap's too violent (http://youtube.com/w/Old-School-%28Ghostface%29?v=9tKnbF_hZfs&search=rakim)

Because mainly, Wu Tang is for the kids.

Really.

[roosta]

don't regret shit they still rep the Wu-symbol


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/GthePromoter/Gspics001.jpg



fuckin' baking soda...



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/GthePromoter/Gspics015.jpg


its a sad day when the words "Produced by the RZA" fill me with dread.
although did he produce "State of Grace"? maybe this is the comeback.

i would be so happy if it was...

[g-mile7]

its a sad day when the words "Produced by the RZA" fill me with dread.
although did he produce "State of Grace"? maybe this is the comeback.

i would be so happy if it was...


Yes he did.

[ASsman]

Tres bien, can't wait. Kanye huh? Let's see where this goes, hopefully I can find it leaked soon.

[g-mile7]

Tres bien, can't wait. Kanye huh? Let's see where this goes, hopefully I can find it leaked soon.


hear you on that...still will buy it if it's good though but need to hear some goodness b4 March 28th

[ASsman]

hear you on that...still will buy it if it's good though but need to hear some goodness b4 March 28th
Oh yeah, you gotta buy it. But if it's leaked early, I'm all over it. If only the music industry embraced the internet like the Porn industry. They'd be faring a lot better, IMO.

[g-mile7]

Oh yeah, you gotta buy it. But if it's leaked early, I'm all over it. If only the music industry embraced the internet like the Porn industry. They'd be faring a lot better, IMO.


LMAO no doubt

[Buck Shasta]

I heard Mr.Killah met a BIG boy named GHOSTFACE!!! (y)

If so, he might have to change his name to "Ned Beatty's Stunt Double!"

Reeeee Reeeee Reeeeeeee Reeeeeee! :p

[laserx54]

don't regret shit they still rep the Wu-symbol


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/GthePromoter/Gspics001.jpg




It's a sad state of affairs when the Wu symbol needs to be captioned with Wu Music Group. The symbol should speak for itself really.

[The Notorious LOL]

if anyone wants most of the tracks off Fishscale, get at me via private messages lol

[roosta]

wow.
i think i've heard the same advance as NLOL, its fucking quality.

[saml]

on a similar note, "angels" from ghost and doom's upcoming album: http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/february/mfdoomghost/angels.mp3

and btw:
The Notorious LOL has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

:)

[laserx54]

on a similar note, "angels" from ghost and doom's upcoming album: http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/february/mfdoomghost/angels.mp3

and btw:
The Notorious LOL has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

:)


Ghostface seems to have appropriated the Doom style of lazy rapping which is different from his usual yelling, yet I still like this

[The Notorious LOL]

pm box is clear now.

[mickill]

I think they're leaving 'Big Girl' off the album. Don't know why.

[mickill]

I don't think that this (http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27CVHC9KHVTX737Y4C90IEXQRG) is the official completed version of 9 Mili Bros, but it's not bad. It's different from the snippet that was posted on Nah Right, I think.

I don't know what's up with Deck sounding like Meth.

[Rip Round'n Roc]

ahum.... for promotional purposes only please,
http://rapidshare.de/files/14207462/Ghostface_Killah_-_Fishcale__Advanced_.rar.html

"clips of doom" is crazy, another classic starks n chef song
a few special herb's beatz by mf doom with ghost rapping over it

[g-mile7]

All the advance copy shit of the album that been all over tha net aint gonna be what is the final production on the retail album when it drop. Some songs might get dropped off the album at the last minit before it hits retail. It happens a lot.



sick avatar!but thats how they do with LP to keep bootlegging to as low as they can'

[roosta]

LOL..."get your laptops ready"...

We loggin' on.....fucking computer shit....

http://www.myspace.com/internetinvasion

[mickill]

Check out Murder Goons (http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=tracks1)

[saml]

Check out Murder Goons (http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=tracks1)


cool, thanks

[saml]

Different version of 'the Champ': http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/march/ghostface/thechamp.mp3
'Family Affair' with the Chef, Trife, Cap and Sungod: http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/march/ghostface/familyaffair.mp3

[Monsieur Decuts]

LOL..."get your laptops ready"...

We loggin' on.....fucking computer shit....

http://www.myspace.com/internetinvasion

YES YES YES YES

DEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF LITTLE ITALY!!!!!!

[g-mile7]

YES YES YES YES

DEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF LITTLE ITALY!!!!!!


ghost is so cool hahahaha

[Auton]

Murder goons is proably the most unimpressive track i've heard so far, but it's still good

[g-mile7]

Kilo is a sick track, likes how he breaks down the meal of the fiends really well'

[roosta]

Murder goons is proably the most unimpressive track i've heard so far, but it's still good

im pretty sure Kay Slay says "not from the album" on it...

i kinda liked it, but i couldnt tell if he was bigging up G-Unit and Dipset or dissing them, if he was bigging them up, then he's kinda dissing Jay and Nas
He said something like "get G-Unit, rae (?) and Dipset, and take back new york" (or something along those lines)...
couldnt really tell what he was on about...

[g-mile7]

im pretty sure Kay Slay says "not from the album" on it...

i kinda liked it, but i couldnt tell if he was bigging up G-Unit and Dipset or dissing them, if he was bigging them up, then he's kinda dissing Jay and Nas
He said something like "get G-Unit, rae (?) and Dipset, and take back new york" (or something along those lines)...couldnt really tell what he was on about...


sounds like a challenge to me....afterall he did diss 50 on Supreme...

[roosta]

sounds like a challenge to me....afterall he did diss 50 on Supreme...

yeah, but if he was straight up calling them out, this would be all over the internet....i cant work it out....

you see the most subliminal disses get picked apart, but if he does say this, i havnt heard anything about it...

[g-mile7]

yeah, but if he was straight up calling them out, this would be all over the internet....i cant work it out....

you see the most subliminal disses get picked apart, but if he does say this, i havnt heard anything about it...


would be something if he did do that...he did go at D4L so maybe Ghost on that type of war shit(not to mention him and Jay are supposdly really cool)

[roosta]

would be something if he did do that...he did go at D4L so maybe Ghost on that type of war shit(not to mention him and Jay are supposdly really cool)

true bout him and Jay.

the thing about D4L is, it wasnt' even reported as a beef-starter, it was ghost saying what everyone else is thinking about those clowns.

[g-mile7]

true bout him and Jay.

the thing about D4L is, it wasnt' even reported as a beef-starter, it was ghost saying what everyone else is thinking about those clowns.


Of course it's no beef starter it's D4L going at Ghostface....even D4L knows better...

[g-mile7]

got this off Streethop.com


rumor has it that this song won't make it and I dont even know if this the full one (and the audio sucks) but here is Charlie Brown with a 2nd verse that Ghostface kills!



http://rapidshare.de/files/15040102/Ghostface_Killah_-_Charlie_Brown__Full_Version___Radio_Rip_.mp3.html

[saml]

got this off Streethop.com


rumor has it that this song won't make it and I dont even know if this the full one (and the audio sucks) but here is Charlie Brown with a 2nd verse that Ghostface kills!



http://rapidshare.de/files/15040102/Ghostface_Killah_-_Charlie_Brown__Full_Version___Radio_Rip_.mp3.html

even my girl got a bulletproof vest!

awsome, thanks. thank god for the internet.

[roosta]

if Charlie Brown is not on the retail version, ghostface is insane.

[Auton]

it isn't. check the tracklist on amazon.com

i'm extremely dissappointed

[saml]

maybe saved for swift&changeable, chill

[The Notorious LOL]

it isn't. check the tracklist on amazon.com

i'm extremely dissappointed



every single ghostface album has had a fucked up tracklist when it goes to print, so I wouldnt be suprised if this one is too.

[Auton]

very true.

[mickill]

I love the intro on Supreme Clientele.

[Auton]

yeah, it's pretty much the best intro ever

[saml]

interesting read:
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/music/articles/060320crmu_music

[g-mile7]

Despite rarely being mentioned amid “best rappers alive” rumblings, Ghostface has yet to release anything but acclaimed hip-hop since his 1996 solo debut, Ironman. Even when Wu-Tang releases started failing to find an audience, Ghost put the Clan on his back and kept the crew relevant with 2000’s seminal disc Supreme Clientele. Possessing a unique pedigree of prose (i.e. “Ayo, this rappin’s like ziti, facin’ me real TV/Crash at high speeds, strawberry kiwi”) and unbridled lyrical passion, he is the reigning king of consistency. Inexplicably, though, the Staten Islander’s tunes tend to excite critics more than consumers. After treading more accessible waters with 2004’s kinder and gentler disc, The Pretty Toney Album, Starks takes it back to his Killah roots with his fifth solo platter, Fishscale.

Clan connoisseurs will find comfort in “9 Milli Bros.,” a colossal posse cut featuring all of the Clansmen—including ODB and the return of Ghost’s longtime partner in rhyme Raekwon, who appears four times here as opposed to not at all last time around. The duo rekindles that classic Cuban Linx chemistry on the cocaine instructional “Kilo” and “R.A.G.U.,” an intense crime saga heightened by chilling strings and bells. Bullet-ridden narratives continue on the captivating “Shakey Dog,” where Ghost stages a botched heist over Lewis Parker’s horn-heavy Blaxploitation soundtrack with scene-setting detail: “Three fuckin’ maricones on the couch, watching Sanford & Son/Passing they rum, fried plantains and rice/Big rounds of onions on the T-bone steak/My stomach growling, Yo, I want some!”

Surprisingly, Ghost’s return to a darker sound doesn’t include the RZA. In his place is a crop of subterranean track masters. The most prominent being underground poster boy MF Doom, whose avant-garde replacement of Bobby Digital’s sonic grit is triumphant. Collaborating on five cuts, Ghost and Doom mesh like dust brothers from another. Metal Face’s hypnotic flutes and wave sound effects anchor “Underwater,” Tony’s bugged-out aquatic fantasy, complete with “mermaids with Halle Berry haircuts” and “SpongeBob in the Bentley coupé, banging the Isleys.” Their combined excellence continues on the acid-trip symphony “Charlie Brown” and the body-dropping “Clips of Doom,” a murder-gram ripe with piercing electric guitars and Ghost’s vivid violence: “Put two cutter mirrors replacing the eyes/So when the cops come they’ll see themselves, they all gonna die.”

Lightening up for a moment, Toney turns his attention toward estrogen for “Big Girl,” where the Pretty One sweet-talks shorties with his signature peculiarity. Later he waxes parental atop J Dilla’s subdued guitar lift on “Strap,” a candid reflection about today’s wayward parental discipline. “Nowadays kids don’t get beat/They get big treats, fresh pair of sneaks/Punishments is like, Here, have a seat.”
Unfortunately, Ghost Deini succumbs to commercial pressure. Amid the shadowy production scope of the album, the love-gone-bad R&B number “Back Like That” featuring Ne-Yo feels out of place. Equally confusing is the head-scratching “3 Bricks,” which awkwardly combines Ghost and Rae with Notorious B.I.G.’s “Somebody’s Gotta Die” vocals. Produced by Cool & Dre, the track seems better suited for Biggie’s slapdash Duets.
With a few forced collaborations being its only flaw, Fishscale is Ghost’s most addictive dosage post Supreme Clientele. Packed with vivid street tales, comic relief and straight spittin’, the album continues his standard of excellence. Now if only consistency equaled power. If it did, Ghostface would be king. —MATT BARONE







XL out XXL (4/5)


lookin sharp'






http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=260

[roosta]

XL out XXL (4/5)


lookin sharp'






http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=260
(y)

[The Notorious LOL]

Heart Street Directions and Bad Mouth Kid are actually pretty funny skits...which is unusual for rap albums.


also, Charlie Brown aint on it.

[mickill]

None of the skits are touching Woodrow The Basehead, though.

[The Notorious LOL]

SUZIE THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW!


okay so after listening to the entire retail the Ghostface album order is as follows:


Ironman
Supreme Clientele
Fishscale
Bulletproof Wallets
Pretty Toney


yes thats right homos, Ironmans better than Supreme.

[mickill]

yes thats right homos, Ironmans better than Supreme.
Ha. You're probably the only person left in the world who thinks that, but it's ok.

Supreme Clientele
Fishscale
Ironman
Pretty Toney
Bulletproof Wallets

[The Notorious LOL]

no I know a few people who agree...regardless theres no way this albums touching Ironman or Supreme.


a rehashed Notorious verse automatically docks it several points.

plus, 3 of the 4 Doom beats are re-hashed, and The Champ intro sucks now.

[Gareth]

plus, 3 of the 4 Doom beats are re-hashed

yeh i stayed away from advances, so when i heard these old doom beats, i was unimpressed. even so, clipse of doom sounds pretty good.

[roosta]

too many skits, and too many short songs!

pretty good but not the classic i imagined, but still, pretty good.
beats are solid.

starts off very strong, but kind of loses its way towards the end, but as i said pretty solid over all.

and no Charlie Brown is a big loss....and yeah, most of the doom beats are re-hashed......

[Kid Presentable]

Say what you want about Bulletproof Wallets, but 'The Forest' is one of Ghost's finest.

[Ally Al]

strawberry also from BW, one of my favourite Ghost tracks, that beat is nuts

[The Notorious LOL]

Bulletproof would have been amazing if The Sun and The Watch werent cut. Its still really good though.

[Qdrop]

man, shit...

Ironman is the only ghostface album i got.

i gotta step up.

[Ally Al]

Bulletproof would have been amazing if The Sun and The Watch werent cut. Its still really good though.

Ghost showers fucks with my head tho, when the beat kicks in and he's rhyming it's dope, BUT when the girl sings, hmmmm

i know it's the next step in the cherchez (sp?) la ghost ladder but it doesn't touch it for me, but you're right it's still really good, homo erotic imagery and all

[Auton]

the original version of Flowers stomps on anything that made it on to Bulletproof Wallets. And Ironman is nowhere as good as Supreme Clientele.

[roosta]

The Champ rules

[Ally Al]

Dogs of war also, if this is a rehashed doom beat, where's it from ??

Be easy has a potential for a single i think

[The Notorious LOL]

Ironman is nowhere as good as Supreme Clientele.

nah son.

[roosta]

Be easy has a potential for a single i think

i believe it was, last year. but didnt get much push from def jam i think....

[Ally Al]

Really ? Now that sucks

i thought Jay Z was 110% behind this ghost album

(also check your inbox)

[Rip Round'n Roc]

retail leaked today, (no i won't post a link)

anyways another great album by ghostface!

the champ (retail version) is intense

[The Notorious LOL]

dude get with the times it leaked last night....this critique the retail shit is soooo 10 posts ago :p

[Ally Al]

[QUOTE=Rip Round'n Roc]retail leaked today, (no i won't post a link)




we don't need no stinkin' links

[g-mile7]

SUZIE THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW!


okay so after listening to the entire retail the Ghostface album order is as follows:


Ironman
Supreme Clientele
Fishscale
Bulletproof Wallets
Pretty Toney


yes thats right homos, Ironmans better than Supreme.


I like Ironman better then Supreme myself so you are not alone, but overal Supreme is stronger then Ironman.

[xrocketman]

so are ghost and doom still making their duet album, or is this supposed to be it for them?

[Monsieur Decuts]

Say what you want about Bulletproof Wallets, but 'The Forest' is one of Ghost's finest.
you ain't kidding...whatta beat

[Kid Presentable]

you ain't kidding...whatta beat
The lyrics are fuckin bonkers too.

Shaggy shot dead in his hoody.

[Tzar]

yes thats right homos, Ironmans better than Supreme.
i'll back you up on this. i can listen to Ironman, start-to-end but i can't help but skip some songs on S.C.

having said that, S.C.'s best songs piss all over Ironman's best songs.

Ironman is just more consistant.

[So Ruff]

That track with Mary J. Blige kinda fucks over Ironman for me... Supreme just seems to me like the more on-point choice.

Can't wait for this album, by the way. Obviously.

[Ally Al]

[QUOTE=So Ruff]That track with Mary J. Blige kinda fucks over Ironman for me... Supreme just seems to me like the more on-point choice.

All that i got is you is a great track (i prefered the single version with tekitha tho)

[Kid Presentable]

I thought Assassination Day was the shit, and Camay, Daytona 500, that song with the delphonics, Soul Controller, and the one with all the glassy sounding chimes. I haven't owned the album in about 6 years, but Ironman is close to SC, for sure.

[roosta]

i can never really decide between Ironman and Supreme Clientelle, so i usually put them on equal pairing.

[g-mile7]

I thought Assassination Day was the shit, and Camay, Daytona 500, that song with the delphonics, Soul Controller, and the one with all the glassy sounding chimes. I haven't owned the album in about 6 years, but Ironman is close to SC, for sure.



The "After the Smoke Is Clear" song is pretty ill, Daytona 500 is the best track to me though (and motherless child)


"I slap box with Jesus, Lick shots at Jospeh"


hhahaha

[Gareth]

winter warz is still cappadonna's greatest moment.

[saml]

we should have a wu-tang top10 thread with all sorts of categories

[mickill]

Supreme is Ghost at his lyrical apex. He hasn't sounded that good since. SC is a lot more consistent than Ironman, as well. Ironman is consistent, but doesn't have the same impact. His rhyme style was kinda underdeveloped at that point still. And I don't think there's one song on Ironman that's touching Nutmeg, Buck 50 or Childs Play. Daytona 500 comes close to doing so, I guess.

The only songs I really care about off Bulletproof Wallets are Theodore and Strawberry. The Forest is cool, but the lyrics are kinda...eh.

Pretty Toney was a lot better, mainly because Run is one of the best songs ever period.

Fishscale is his most consistent since SC, obviously.

The Watch, Good Times and The Drummer should have been on the respective albums they all didn't make the cut for, though.

[Ally Al]

wasn't there a track missed off pretty toney that had a beatles sample ? i think it was from while my guitar gently weeps

[mickill]

wasn't there a track missed off pretty toney that had a beatles sample ? i think it was from while my guitar gently weeps

I think Eminem tried to use that for his Mockingbird song. Have no idea if Ghost did, though. Maybe you have Eminem and Ghostface mixed up...since that's so easy to do.

[Ally Al]

I think Eminem tried to use that for his Mockingbird song. Have no idea if Ghost did, though. Maybe you have Eminem and Ghostface mixed up...since that's so easy to do.


:D

no i'm not getting them mixed up, there was mos def a track that Ghost did. Do you have the kweli track that sample elenor rigby ? i think he used the ray charles version

[mickill]

That Kweli song pisses me off. It was done pretty poorly. Kinda like the Grey Album. But in this case, they used the instrumental and everything and it still came out amateurish.

Ok, I heard about Ghost using some Ray Charles song. That sounds familiar.

[Ally Al]

That Kweli song pisses me off. It was done pretty poorly. Kinda like the Grey Album. But in this case, they used the instrumental and everything and it still came out amateurish.

Ok, I heard about Ghost using some Ray Charles song. That sounds familiar.


the kweli song i've heard was called lonley people and it had a sample of ray charles singing the chorus, same one ?

Also i was right about the ghost track but it sampled a cover version of WMGGW, i'm in the process of trying to source it

[Auton]

yeah i have the song that samples while my guitar gently weeps (a cover version, not the beatles recording). it isn't that great.

[Ally Al]

yeah i have the song that samples while my guitar gently weeps (a cover version, not the beatles recording). it isn't that great.


really ? it sounds like an interesting idea

[Auton]

it's a decent track, but nothing really special. i don't think i have it on my pc anymore... they had it on wutangcorp.com for awhile but i don't know if it's still on there either.... the song's just called "beatles" if you want to look for it

[Ally Al]

it's a decent track, but nothing really special. i don't think i have it on my pc anymore... they had it on wutangcorp.com for awhile but i don't know if it's still on there either.... the song's just called "beatles" if you want to look for it


thanks for that i'll check it out

[Auton]

WRONG. scratch that. it's called my guitar, and it's still up on wutangcorp.com along with pretty much every track ever left off a wutang album

[Ally Al]

WRONG. scratch that. it's called my guitar, and it's still up on wutangcorp.com along with pretty much every track ever left off a wutang album


good man, thanks again

can you dl from there ?

[Auton]

yeah, you just have to join their messageboard. it's worth it. they have tons of rare stuff... make sure you download the original version of flowers..

[The Notorious LOL]

I like the Showoff Remix of Run even though that Natilus sample is used all the damn time.

[The Notorious LOL]

wutangcorp doesnt have it though. God dammit.

[Ally Al]

yeah, you just have to join their messageboard. it's worth it. they have tons of rare stuff... make sure you download the original version of flowers..


got it man but thanks for the heads up

i have the version of WMGGW they sample, it's by jimmy ponders, very nice track (y)

[Kid Presentable]

Another slept on number is 'The Hilton'. But I digress.

I got Fish scale finally, R.A.G.U is the truth. And Be Easy is Pete Rock? Nice.

[BuddhaMonk]

did everyone here sleep on GZA and Dj muggs - Grandmasters album... straight up banger, one of the best wu solo's ever.

[Kid Presentable]

did everyone here sleep on GZA and Dj muggs - Grandmasters album... straight up banger, one of the best wu solo's ever.
I started a thread about it 6 months ago. Nobody here really liked it.

I didn't mind it, myself. But then again I didn't lose any dough.

[Auton]

that album was butt. completely boring, uninspired, and just plain not fun to listen to.

[Kid Presentable]

that album was butt. completely boring, uninspired, and just plain not fun to listen to.

It's no Fish Scale.

[Mr Films]

so i didn't fully intend on buying this today but Best Buy is selling it for fucking $6.99! jeez, like it's an ep or some shit.

yeah, so i bought it.

[Auton]

amazing. awesome, awesome album. better than i hoped.

[Subculture]

I got 2 copies yesterday. one for the car and one for the house

R.A.G.U, Shakey Dog and Barbershop are instant classics.

[mickill]

I think Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/g/ghostface-killah/fishscale.shtml) liked it better than I do. I guess that really means that Ghost is definitely hip now. You know, like "MF Doom/Madlib/Danger Mouse/Blackalicious/Outkast" hip; "rap that it's ok for hipsters to like" hip.

[Ally Al]

I think Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/g/ghostface-killah/fishscale.shtml) liked it better than I do. I guess that really means that Ghost is definitely hip now. You know, like "MF Doom/Madlib/Danger Mouse/Blackalicious/Outkast" hip; "rap that it's ok for hipsters to like" hip.


i know what you mean about the hipster thing, but all those artists still make quality hip hop records. So fuck the hipsters, or just plain ol stomp on their heads with your tims, nike air, shelltoe, puma state etc etc (insert hip hop shoe of choice here)

If ghost is hip now hopefully he'll sell more records, it's not like he doesn't deserve it right ?

[roosta]

yeah, ghost has become one of those "rappers its cool to like, but we probably wont listen to him ever again" just like doom.

[mickill]

Yeah, just making an observation, really.

[Kid Presentable]

Nobody I asked even knew who Ghost or Doom were.

[The Notorious LOL]

Ive predicted the hipster friendly status for a while but I dont think it'll happen fully til his disc with Doom comes out.

[Ally Al]

yeah, ghost has become one of those "rappers its cool to like, but we probably wont listen to him ever again" just like doom.

so is it that what "they" think or you ? Some people here seem to know their hip hop so why let hipsters dictate what you listen to, or rather what you don't ?

[Kid Presentable]

Fishscale is too good for hipsters to like.

[Ally Al]

Yeah, just making an observation, really.


thought so, just making observations also

[Ally Al]

see i don't really get the hipster thing. The way i see it these people bemoan hip hop and hark on about the good ol days the good ol days, everybodys talking about the good ol days (c) gladys knight, the golden age etc etc but "they" weren't even listening to hip hop then because it wasn't hip! Am i on the right path or not ?

[roosta]

so is it that what "they" think or you ? Some people here seem to know their hip hop so why let hipsters dictate what you listen to, or rather what you don't ?

its what they think.

[Ally Al]

its what they think.


reet, i getcha ! (y) (shakes fist at they)

[mickill]

The samples (http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=739) from Fishscale. Courtesy of XXL.

[Mr Films]

it's really good.

but is it just me or does it progressively get boring?

[mickill]

No, I know what you mean. I'm kinda bored of it too. The past week I've only been listening to Shakey Dog, Kilo and 9 Milli Bros. I loved it at first, and I still think it's his most consistent album since Supreme, but yeah, the magic's gone. For now.

[EN[i]GMA]

I think Pitchfork (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/g/ghostface-killah/fishscale.shtml) liked it better than I do. I guess that really means that Ghost is definitely hip now. You know, like "MF Doom/Madlib/Danger Mouse/Blackalicious/Outkast" hip; "rap that it's ok for hipsters to like" hip.

Atmosphere too.

The 'indie rock' and 'emo rock' kids love their Atmosphere.

[Mr Films]

No, I know what you mean. I'm kinda bored of it too. The past week I've only been listening to Shakey Dog, Kilo and 9 Milli Bros. I loved it at first, and I still think it's his most consistent album since Supreme, but yeah, the magic's gone. For now.

the triple threat of Shakey Dog, Kilo and The Champ is fucking choice.

but the skits. the goddamn skits!

I'm gonna make an album that's 13 tracks. one song and 6 skits on either side.

then release the song as the single.

[EN[i]GMA]

I can think of, off the top of my, one album with good skits, skits I would rather have than not have: Deltron 3030, and even some of them suck.

[Qdrop]

jesus christ...
6 pages!

is the fuckin album really worth 6 pages of dialogue?

[Auton]

yes

and you guys are on crack, the skits are fucking hilarious










and deltron is overrated

[EN[i]GMA]

and deltron is overrated

I don't think so, but whatever, the skits are class.

That's obvious.

[Bob]

that's one thing that's always bugged me about rap albums, all the skits. it's why i can't get into de la soul is dead. i had it on my MP3 player and everytime a song from that album came up, it was a goddamn skit. i tried listening to the album the whole way through, too, but i got tired of trying to figure out which tracks were skits and which ones weren't. i've been meaning to give it a fair chance, but jesus, the skits.

[EN[i]GMA]

The Champ is a fucking banger.

Just Blaze absolutely murdered that shit.

And that drumbeat is Synthetic Substitution, is not?

Ever fucking time that comes around I imagine "Well the Technic spins the wax is on the belt" over top of it.

[Ally Al]

GMA']The Champ is a fucking banger.

Just Blaze absolutely murdered that shit.

And that drumbeat is Synthetic Substitution, is not?

Ever fucking time that comes around I imagine "Well the Technic spins the wax is on the belt" over top of it.


i prefer the orig version with the rocky samples but thats just me

whats synthetic substitution ?

he used the same break on mighty healthy (on which he took the break from holy war by divine force, he also took the "shake that body, party that body" line from the same track)

the orig break being from funky president by mr brown of course

[Kid Presentable]

yes

and you guys are on crack, the skits are fucking hilarious










and deltron is overrated

The skits ARE good, but I don't agree about deltron. Anyways, another album where the skits weren't useless: De La Soul is Dead.

[Kid Presentable]

i prefer the orig version with the rocky samples but thats just me

whats synthetic substitution ?

he used the same break on mighty healthy (on which he took the break from holy war by divine force, he also took the "shake that body, party that body" line from the same track)

the orig break being from funky president by mr brown of course

The break being the same and all, can you tell me if the strings on 'Mighty Healthy' (one of my favourite GFK videos) are the slowed down version of the ones Kanye samples on 'Addiction'?

[EN[i]GMA]

i prefer the orig version with the rocky samples but thats just me

whats synthetic substitution ?

he used the same break on mighty healthy (on which he took the break from holy war by divine force, he also took the "shake that body, party that body" line from the same track)

the orig break being from funky president by mr brown of course

Hold on, I'm confused...

Synethetic Substitution was the beat used on Ego Trippin by Ultragmagnetic, was it not?

Google says so at least.

And The Champ clearly has the same beat as Ego Trippin', therefore, the beat used in the Champ is Synthetic Substitution, not Funky President.

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=funky+president&type=4

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=synthetic+substitution&type=4

I think I'm right...

[EN[i]GMA]

The break being the same and all, can you tell me if the strings on 'Mighty Healthy' (one of my favourite GFK videos) are the slowed down version of the ones Kanye samples on 'Addiction'?

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=mighty+healthy&type=7

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=The+Sylvers&type=0

Hmm.

Maybe, they sound the same.

Apparently the same sample is used in RJD2's June which certainly sounds a lot like Kanye's song...

I don't know.

And apparently Mighty Healthy uses both breakbeats, but I don't hear the second...

This is all confusing the fuck out me.

[Kid Presentable]

GMA']http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=mighty+healthy&type=7

http://www.the-breaks.com/search.php?term=The+Sylvers&type=0

Hmm.

Maybe, they sound the same.

Apparently the same sample is used in RJD2's June which certainly sounds a lot like Kanye's song...

I don't know.

And apparently Mighty Healthy uses both breakbeats, but I don't hear the second...

This is all confusing the fuck out me.


The second is probably one they're scratching.:confused:

[Ally Al]

right then, i've checked the linear notes for Mighty healthy and it says samples funky president, thats obviously the break because there's no other part of funky president on there. It does sample a song called substitution, not synthetic substitution. I've listened to Ego trippin and i reckon thats the funky president break too

re addiction the only sample named on there is funny valentine by etta james and i don't hear any strings so i can't clarify that either way unless your version is different to mine. Also i don't hear anything on addiction that sounds remotely like June, unless it's layered underneath something else an my old ears just aren't picking it up

edit

just listened again and the HEY! sample on mighty healthy is also from Funky president, nerd moment over

[mickill]

Ego Trippin, Might Healthy and The Champ all use Synthetic Substitution for the main drums. You'd probably most easily recognize Funky Pres from Kid 'N Play's Last Night, because it's virtually sampled wholesale on it. I don't think that Ego Trippin uses it at all. And I'm not sure where it is on Mighty Healthy.

For Synthetic Sub, think DWYCK.

[Ally Al]

Ego Trippin, Might Healthy and The Champ all use Synthetic Substitution for the main drums. You'd probably most easily recognize Funky Pres from Kid 'N Play's Last Night, because it's virtually sampled wholesale on it. I don't think that Ego Trippin uses it at all. And I'm not sure where it is on Mighty Healthy.

For Synthetic Sub, think DWYCK.


so are synthetic substitution and substitution the same thing ? Coz there's no mention of SS on mighty healthy. I've listened to FP today and it does sound like the drums at the very beginning but looped before the guitar comes in

[mickill]

so are synthetic substitution and substitution the same thing ? Coz there's no mention of SS on mighty healthy. I've listened to FP today and it does sound like the drums at the very beginning but looped before the guitar comes in
I believe that it's the same. It's by Melvin Bliss. I'm guessing it's a typo. Kinda like the whole tracklist for Supreme Clientele.

[Ally Al]

I believe that it's the same. It's by Melvin Bliss. I'm guessing it's a typo. Kinda like the whole tracklist for Supreme Clientele.


it must be a diff track then because this one is by herb rooney

there's a HEY! on mightyhealthy that is mos def from FP, i think it could be that break you know

[EN[i]GMA]

I think we could avoid these problems if producers used more than 5 different breakbeats.

[Tzar]

that's one thing that's always bugged me about rap albums, all the skits. it's why i can't get into de la soul is dead. i had it on my MP3 player and everytime a song from that album came up, it was a goddamn skit. i tried listening to the album the whole way through, too, but i got tired of trying to figure out which tracks were skits and which ones weren't. i've been meaning to give it a fair chance, but jesus, the skits.
word word WORD!
that's the shit thing about DLSID. why bother having them? they're annoying.

[Ally Al]

it must be a diff track then because this one is by herb rooney

there's a HEY! on mightyhealthy that is mos def from FP, i think it could be that break you know


nah i'm so wrong, that break is defo synthetic substitution

[mickill]

Breaks (http://www.allthebreaks.com/)

Synthetic Sub's in bank b, bottom row.

[Ally Al]

Breaks (http://www.allthebreaks.com/)

Synthetic Sub's in bank b, bottom row.


thanks mick

picked it up this morning. just when you think you've got most of the classics, one little fucker sneaks under the radar

[EN[i]GMA]

Haha, I got 14 out of 16 breaks correct.

I fucking rule.

[ASsman]

This shit is getting in-depth. I'm enjoying it.

Back on to the album thought , on Amazon.
" Buy this album with King (W/Dvd) ~ T.I. today! " For only 16.92$ . This deal I can't pass up.

Loading it on my mp3 player before I go out and get it.

[Tzar]

i just bought it for 20 bucks. gonna try and listen to it on the TAFE computers but they're crappy so... fingers crossed.

[Tzar]

hahahaha
the 'bad mouth kid skit' followed by 'whip you with a strap' (y)

pretty good album so far. typical ghostface though. just seems different 'cause i been listening to ATCQ and some kanye alot recently.

[Auton]

Breaks (http://www.allthebreaks.com/)

Synthetic Sub's in bank b, bottom row.

I can't believe they don't have jimmy mcgriff's "the worm"

that one's been used so many times

[Auton]

and i've got to say, it's really tempting to buy that all the breaks cd, but i just cant bring myself to do it. it just seems way too easy, like cheating. i don't think i'd be able to look at myself in the mirror after that

[mickill]

Don't be such a purist, man. Cheat shmeat. Do you, son.

Of course, you wanna continue digging too.


Looks like first week sales for Fishscale are higher than any of Ghost's albums since Ironman. Over 100,000 sold. That's like half of the total sales of each of his last 3 albums. And that's also with it leaking a month before it dropped.

[Mr Films]

Don't be such a purist, man. Cheat shmeat. Do you, son.

Of course, you wanna continue digging too.


Looks like first week sales for Fishscale are higher than any of Ghost's albums since Ironman. Over 100,000 sold. That's like half of the total sales of each of his last 3 albums. And that's also with it leaking a month before it dropped.

yet only 1/5 of a far inferior album's sales. TI's King

[DIGI]

be easy's the joint.

[Monsieur Decuts]

the baseline on that Dawn song has got me wideeeee open. The slide on the first two notes makes my vajayjay all moist.

[ASsman]

All around the world today, the kilo is the measure........


Everytime I hear it again, I love it more. Love this shit.

[g-mile7]

Ghostface
Sincerely Yours
He’s a founding member of the foundering Wu-Tang Clan, but he’s quietly put together one of the highest-quality solo portfolios in hip-hop history. In the face of slumping sales, shifting trends and a bad case of writer’s block, the inimitable Ghostface continues to astound. Go in, Tony!
Posted In: XXL Magazine, Features

With all due respect to the homie Paul Wall, on the reals, Ghostface has always been, and continues to be, the people’s champ. For 13 years, Wu-Tang’s masked avenger, born Dennis Coles in 1970, has been tickling the fancy of rap fans round the world with his vivid storytelling, unpredictable references and emphatic, even dire, flow. Unfortunately, in order to sell more than a couple hundred thousand units, you gotta enchant more than just rap fans—and that’s something Ghost’s stellar catalog of solo material (’96’s Ironman, 2000’s Supreme Clientele, ’01’s Bulletproof Wallets and ’04’s The Pretty Toney Album) has repeatedly failed to do. In fact, he’s moved fewer units with each release. However, thanks to his loyal core audience, and high regard among his peers, in a situation where a less credible artist would lose their spot on Def Jam’s roster, for Ghost, opportunity abounds. 2006 promises the release of his fifth LP, Fishscale, as well as a still-untitled EP with underground superhero MF Doom—and possibly even the highly anticipated sequel to Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…, his devoutly revered 1995 collaboration with Wu-Tang rhyme partner Raekwon. (Though Ghost says the latter two projects are both in their infancy.) Ghostface caught up with XXL this winter to discuss his desire to win in ’06, writer’s block and how the Clan will definitely, maybe, reunite for another album. Possibly.

How long did it take you to realize your last album was a bust?
I knew right off the bat. It took but one week. And then we had a couple of niggas that was hating in the Def Jam building. Like my man Kevin Liles [company president at the time].

Really? How was he hating?
It’s like he wouldn’t respect our goals, and it was like he made one smart [comment] about, “I’m not the one who signed you.” [Former Def Jam CEO Lyor Cohen did.] You could read between what niggas be saying and shit. Like, Oh all right, that’s how you really, really feel and shit.

Were you frustrated?
I mean, of course. Who wouldn’t be? You get frustrated because it’s like, Damn, I done took a year and some change out my time just to go ahead to try and build this shit, going through a writer’s block, wasting studio time, smoking weed, forgetting every fuckin’ thing I done fuckin’ wrote down, didn’t know what the fuck to do, too tired to go to the fuckin’ studio, sitting in the studio not doin’ nothing ’cause you can’t think of shit. Like, yo. And for it not to do nothing? You’re muthafuckin’ right, G. You start thinking that it’s you. What am I doing wrong? Am I making the wrong records? No, I can’t be, because it’s like, Yo, a lot of niggas love what I do. So to be going through it four times consecutively… Something just don’t seem right. So, yeah, a nigga was frustrated. Because now it’s like, Damn, you done did that and you sell 68,000 fuckin’ units the first week. You look at your SoundScan like, Come on. What the fuck is this shit?

Are you looking at this new album to boost your career?
[I’m looking at it to] put me back in the game, B! It’s like I’m in the game and shit. But it’s like, you know, I been had a lot of bad luck with record companies. I gave [Sony] like three bombs. They couldn’t do nothing with it. Those three bombs worked out my credibility, where people respect me. I came to Def Jam, gave them a nice album. It made a lot of headlines, but there was nothing behind it. I’m like, What the fuck is going to happen next? I’m already at the bottom of the barrel. I got a lot of talent in me that, maybe, if I was being exposed more, a lot more people would hear my album and feel like, Yo, this nigga write from the heart. It ain’t just something from the brain, trying to make something work. Nah, this nigga took dedication even putting the order together. I’m just here to sell some records and let Hov and LA Reid know like, Yo, I’m still that nigga.

Are things better for you at Def Jam since Jay-Z took over? What’s your relationship with him like?
Me and Hov is… We real cool. He gonna look me at my face and talk to me on some real-nigga-to-real-nigga. Not one nigga taking a thousand phone calls in front of my face, puffing on a big cigar and acting like he hearing me but he ain’t hearing me. There’s no pride there. If I bring my album to him and I be like, Yo, so what you need me to do, son? We are working together to help fix this, to make this something that we can move some units on. Ain’t no, Yo, nigga. I’m my own man. Come on, son. This nigga done run it. I follow in the footsteps of vets, regardless if they younger than me or older than me.
So the new album is called Fishscale. Sounds pretty self-explanatory. Is it a concept record, or is that just a title?
I had to go back a little bit and take these niggas on some real live black shit. You know, moving back in on the cocaine shit, because it seems like nowadays niggas is respecting a lot of that bullshit, that white-white. You know: cold drugs, sex, and money and all that. You know what I mean? That’s what’s moving right now, so I had to go back in on some real Tony Starks shit—paint a few pictures and shit.

Does it frustrate you as an artist to try and cater to the market?
Yeah. You know, the game is funny, because you never know which way to go with these people nowadays. So one minute they like this, next minute, they like that. So you know, trying to keep up with muthafuckas and shit, it’s like, Yo, if you want to go in here, I can go in there and ball on that. So I just said, Fuck it. I’m just gonna go with this Fishscale shit, paint my pictures and keep it moving.

Whats going with New York hip-hop
We’re no longer trendsetters. I guess we’re just tyring to keep up with the Joneses. I cant do that cause Im an originator. I invent a lot of shit, ill shit. Niggas will laugh at me if I was to try and go and dive into that other pool of water. My credibility is on the line. But niggas that go ahead and take on that sound? All right, I can’t knock it. But I do know for us as a people out here, we’re fucked up. Because you can look at the unity. Yo, you can take a bunch of South niggas and they love each other. Them niggas support each other. You check one video out, you got like four or five other different fuckin artist inside that one nigga video. We hate each other. There’s too much devilish men [in New York]. The devil all over our hearts, minds, body, soul everything. The [South] niggas? They happy and having fun, [like New York in the] 80’s.

Well, in the mid-90’s you’d see yourself and Rae with people like Nas and Mobb Deep….
I mean yeah. It was all right. It wasn’t never a cool, cool thing…..

What do you mean?
You know the era we came in was the “I don’t give a fuck” era. We came in not really giving a fuck about nobody really.

So you weren’t really that cool with other artists?
I mean we was so deep, we had a lot of niggas scared. We had a lot of niggas under pressure and shit. Niggas didn’t want to feel the wrath of neither one of us. But the reason why niggas hate each other now, it’s like… It’s the shit that we talk, man. Because everybody wants to be that livest nigga-the Scarface nigga. When we dropped Cuban Linx, we started a lot of that shit that come out they mouth. [Now they] coming in spitting that fly shit, coming in with that attitude.

So whats the answer?How do you fix this?
You know, through our music, man. We can make this game last forever, but we’re not being creative. You gotta remember, what you talk about today, these young people become programmed. So now you got the baby that’s coming up with the frowns now. You’re looking at your future.

But having said that, with Fishscale you said you were really going dig into the streets.
This is how I eat. I didn’t really, really want to, but I got to come to the people as the people and go in. And then, maybe when I got these niggas I can-slowly but surely, not trying to hit them with a full piece-but just give them a little slice. But I do come with a lot of different other styles and creative shit, like I got this song where I’m rhyming underwater. Mermaid snactehd me up and was taking me through mad shit under there. Spongebob was under there, some rocks from the Titanic. But that’s my imagination. I like to write stories. See what you gonna do when you’re 40? I’m still kick that same shit, nigga.


A lot of rappers seem to lose inspiration in their 30s, but I get the feeling you’ll be rhyming when you’re 80…
Of course!Of course! I could rhyme about different topics. I could rhyme about….With you sitting right there and me sitting right here….I could have you turn into Spider-Man right now interviewing me. You could have sipped your coffee and your face could have changed. Anything. It’s like using your imagination. Rapping is like….Let’s sxee, reading is fundamental. Rapping is fundamental, too man.

Since it’s all about imagination and inspiration, you mentioned getting writer’s block before. How do you get out or that?
I let it get out of me. You just got to wake up one morning and it’s gone. It’s like you can have that shit for weeks or months. But it happens to everybody, because you done rhymed about a lot of shit. I have a lot of things on my mind, and it makes it hard. It’s scary though ‘cause you start thinking you’re falling off and shit. It happened for a minute during all my albums [after Ironman ]. It happened on the later Wu-Tang ones, too.

What’s your take on those later Wu albums?
They was wack, totally wack. You could hear niggas got paid just to say whatever the fuck you wanted and leave the studio. But when you’re broke, everybody’s there. When money come into play, you got everything. You got bitches now that will take you to leave the studio instead of sitting there with your brother and helping your brother get through on that rap or whatever. Just putting the time in, you know what I mean? And that’s how them albums was treated. The W was a little too dark for me. It was gloomy. I didn’t really like those albums at all.

There was no passion…
Yeah, yeah. And once you got niggas just coming in and leaving and not making sure that the hook is right or making the right decision…Should that be the single? Or even skits. Like the “Killah Tape” skit on the first album. Come on, son. We sat there and we did that. Nowadays, niggas, you think too hard. What you gonna come up with next? I mean and that’s cool, cause you want to be…But it’s like, Yo G, anything. Just do it funny. Eat a bowl of cereal on a skit, nigga! [Laughs] Don’t take it so serious.

Will there ever be another Wu-Tang album?
With the Wu, there’s tension in the air. It’s a lot of things that we got to fix amongst ourselves. But so many holes already that been dug, you don’t know where to put the patch over. Everybody gotta be like, Whatever happened, it just happened and we gonna move on. I feel in my heart that, at least, that might be…That there will be one more Wu-Tang album, at least.

On a light note. I gotta ask why do you always rap about food?
Yeah, it’s true. But you know, I never think about it. I know I say a lot of crazy shit, but I never thought about that before. I don’t know. It’s just…food for thought


xxlmag.com ( i typed the rest out thank me later)

[BroomHead]

Who else is pissed that 3 of the 4 DOOM beats are recycled from his Special Herbs? -- 2 of which were used by the Monsta Island Czars already.

[enree erzweglle]

Here's how this place sometimes reaches into my life.

I'm at the music shop and I see this on a CD: Ghostface Killah Fishscale and I think, "That's what `The Ghostface Killah "Fish Scale" thread' thread means."

...a thread about a rap group or possibly two people who rap and the album that they made. It's not just a noun string.

So I bought it. :o

[Kid Presentable]

Here's how this place sometimes reaches into my life.

I'm at the music shop and I see this on a CD: Ghostface Killah Fishscale and I think, "That's what `The Ghostface Killah "Fish Scale" thread' thread means."

...a thread about a rap group or possibly two people who rap and the album that they made. It's not just a noun string.

So I bought it. :o
haha. Awesome, enree..(y) (y)

[g-mile7]

Here's how this place sometimes reaches into my life.

I'm at the music shop and I see this on a CD: Ghostface Killah Fishscale and I think, "That's what `The Ghostface Killah "Fish Scale" thread' thread means."

...a thread about a rap group or possibly two people who rap and the album that they made. It's not just a noun string.

So I bought it. :o

this board served for something good:ghost would be proud:)

[g-mile7]

Who else is pissed that 3 of the 4 DOOM beats are recycled from his Special Herbs? -- 2 of which were used by the Monsta Island Czars already.

who cares?there good beats and Ghost kills it:)

[mickill]

Update:

According to Ghost’s management he will NOT be on Jay-Z’s new album as rumors are saying. Jay-Z has, however, asked Ghost to drop a new album by the end of new year, 12th of December to be exact and it is currently entitled "More Fish".

[g-mile7]

WTF??

[The Notorious LOL]

in hindsight, Fishscale wasnt the CLASSIC everyone said it would be. I mean, its good and stuff but I listen to maybe three songs on occasion.