Romance vs Lust.....man [Archive] - Beastie Boys Message Board

mickill

01-25-2006, 12:14 PM

Does one do more for you than the other? Do you find that you're more intrigued by the likelihood of sex over romance? Do you got a little bit of class or are you just a big hornball that wants to hump anything that moves? I guess it generally depends on the individual circumstances.

I'm not actually consumed by any of this stuff anymore, since I'm not single or anything, but I don't think that upon first meeting any of my past girlfriends I ever thought to myself, "man, I'd sure like to put my penis in her". So maybe I'm a sucker for love. I don't know. But there have been girls that I knew I'd never want a relationship with that I just thought of as hot, and that would pretty much be the extent of it.

I know they're kinda apples and oranges, but whatever. I'm not ashamed to admit that, yeah, I always used to look forward to meeting girls I'd want to actually get to know better. I had a lot of guy friends that couldn't have cared less and just sort of wanted to meet girls for mostly anything other than a relationship. Most of them have moved on and kinda settled down for the most part, but I still have a few friends that routinely go looking for "Ms Right Now" at clubs every weekend. I don't really get it. Whatever. I think Nietzsche summed it all up best when he said, "meh".

yeahwho

01-25-2006, 12:20 PM

Do you buy Tampons for your love?

monkey

01-25-2006, 12:23 PM

i think i told someone once: lust makes me want to kiss [the boy], romance makes me want to hold his hand.

not everyone gets to hold my hand. actually, i think only 4 guys have ever held my hand.

but if im drunk enough, and youre cute enough, i'll kiss you for a bit.

Kid Presentable

01-25-2006, 12:28 PM

I used to be all about the lust, until somebody brought out the romantic in me.

Now we have a kind of romantic lust going on.

We don't go all ostentatious with exploding geese and velvet wallpaper, but we'll go and scoop some burgers, watch the stars and just talk shit. It's like the natural extension of oneself. It requires little effort, yet would never, ever, be taken for granted.

That said, until this point, I'd try to fuck any female that looked at me. Mostly unsuccessfully.

True Story: Once I realised I was trying to fuck any female that looked at me I retreated into celibacy. It was the cold turkey, junk-kicking exercise that really taught me how futile my pursuit of some poontang was. I instead grew to understand that I wanted to know a person. Then hit her up for some nookie. :rolleyes:

enree erzweglle

01-25-2006, 12:29 PM

I can't get to sex with a guy unless there's a connection and having a connection has to include having romance.

To me, romance isn't flowers and gifts. It's conversing, interacting, sharing, having common interests, being spontaneous, considerate, loving, kind, etc.

If the connection weakens, then my interest in the sexual aspects of the relationship also weakens.

mickill

01-25-2006, 12:30 PM

Do you buy Tampons for your love?
What? Psssh. Fine, maybe like two or thirteen times at the most.

i think i told someone once: lust makes me want to kiss [the boy], romance makes me want to hold his hand.
Did you make that up or is it from a movie or something?

kaiser soze

01-25-2006, 12:30 PM

I've really not thought much on lusting...

I'm feeling exceptionally romantic towards someone, we both are interested but are taking it easy. It's just nice having someone to share and do things with and that makes us happy

god, where did my hormones go?!?

fucktopgirl

01-25-2006, 12:33 PM

i guess you need lust to have a successful romance!!

yeahwho

01-25-2006, 12:36 PM

What? Psssh. Fine, maybe like two or thirteen times at the most.

I've had moments over that purchase. If it's going to be 25+ items in the cart...OK, but you know when it's just ice cream and kotex I'm pretty stubborn, it gets pretty pretty expensive buying filler to cover.

What's up with these companies? What if kotex just would change the packaging a little, some sort of nascar or NFL theme so dudes didn't look so fucking ridiculous?

They could design it to look like a six pack of Bud Light

bleh

kaiser soze

01-25-2006, 12:36 PM

i guess you need lust to have a successful romance!!

but what should come first?

I don't mind building up to intimacy....making love (not fucking) isn't just physical

Kid Presentable

01-25-2006, 12:38 PM

I actually love her so much, that I'm happier buying Tampons than I am buying porn.

Hence, I'm not on the buying porn missions much these days.

monkey

01-25-2006, 12:42 PM

Did you make that up or is it from a movie or something?

i made it up just now. dont make fun of me cause im cheesy. im cheese and all romance-y and in love :o

fucktopgirl

01-25-2006, 12:43 PM

but what should come first?

I don't mind building up to intimacy....making love (not fucking) isn't just physical

i think it come as a pair!!A mix of both!!

yeahwho

01-25-2006, 12:47 PM

i think it come as a pair!!A mix of both!!

kotex and tampons?

fucktopgirl

01-25-2006, 12:54 PM

kotex and tampons?

kotex!!
so you see lust and romance like separeted,,i see them as one in a relationship!WHen your lust for your partner is dead,even if you have the love/compassion/complicity thing going on,,it kinda futile,,no??

mickill

01-25-2006, 12:55 PM

The filler purchases. I know that secret all too well. My biggest fear is that it won't scan properly when I go to pay and the cashier will try to humiliate me.

"CAN I GET A PRICE CHECK ON 3 FOR STAYFREE ULTRA THIN REGULARS"

"FOR THE WHIPPED GENTLEMAN IN THE HAT AND SUNGLASSES"

I wasn't making fun of you, Pauli.

cosmo105

01-25-2006, 01:15 PM

Sarky Devotchka

01-25-2006, 01:25 PM

sometimes lust is diguised as romance. but I think sex with someone you actually care about it way better/more intense than with some hot dirtbag off the street.

Qdrop

01-25-2006, 01:25 PM

I'm not actually consumed by any of this stuff anymore, since I'm not single or anything, but I don't think that upon first meeting any of my past girlfriends I ever thought to myself, "man, I'd sure like to put my penis in her". So maybe I'm a sucker for love. I don't know. But there have been girls that I knew I'd never want a relationship with that I just thought of as hot, and that would pretty much be the extent of it.

I know they're kinda apples and oranges, but whatever. I'm not ashamed to admit that, yeah, I always used to look forward to meeting girls I'd want to actually get to know better. I had a lot of guy friends that couldn't have cared less and just sort of wanted to meet girls for mostly anything other than a relationship. Most of them have moved on and kinda settled down for the most part, but I still have a few friends that routinely go looking for "Ms Right Now" at clubs every weekend. I don't really get it. Whatever. I think Nietzsche summed it all up best when he said, "meh".

i'd say my sentiments pretty much echo mike's.
there have been and are women whom i look at purely in a sexual light...and would never even consider dating them...
we've all met people like that....

but with my current relationship, and previous ones...i was far more interested in the relationship...then just getting in thier pants. i found that much more exciting then just sex.

Qdrop

01-25-2006, 01:27 PM

sometimes lust is diguised as romance.
well put.

GreenEarthAl

01-25-2006, 01:36 PM

I generally get hit with both at the same time. Developing romantic feelings on a similar level to my labidinal desires (probably a real phrase). So I guess my answer is that I have difficulty distinguishing between the two anymore. I always want some of each. I didn't used to be that way 12 years ago. But I can't recall/relate to how I used to be 12 years ago. Glad I wrote it all down.

mickill

01-25-2006, 01:39 PM

Smart people, please, stay focussed. The thread is about tampons.

Qdrop

01-25-2006, 01:41 PM

do women find it pleasurable to insert a tampon?

they CLAIM no....but i suspect otherwise.

they're mass-marketed sex toys....and no ones the wiser.

Qdrop

01-25-2006, 01:46 PM

Especially you. :D

i'm hip to the game, my friend.

i'm the one breaking the story.

cosmo105

01-25-2006, 01:53 PM

tampons are about the width of a pinky or ring finger (unless they're the super size, then maybe a thumb) and are cottony and rough, not exactly veiny or throbbing, and used to plug up unsuccessful baby batter leakage. there's not much sexy about them. and when you put them in, you're already gooed up enough that you barely even feel them. nowhere near a penis.

hpdrifter

01-25-2006, 01:54 PM

I agree with enree 100%. But to me this isn't really a versus question.

For me, at least, its about romance leading to lust. I fell in love with my boyfriend and I find him irresistable sexually. And I can look at other guys and appreciate that they are good looking or have good bodies or whatever but at the end of the day, I get close to him, hug him, smell his boy-clean-tshirt smell and its like *snap*.

cosmo105

01-25-2006, 01:56 PM

smell his boy-clean-tshirt smell and its like *snap*.
this is quite possibly the best smell in the world. the scent of MAN. it's kind of dirty, but in a good way, and it's so...raw...and good god. sometimes just a whiff of that and WOOSH the clothes are OFF.

hpdrifter

01-25-2006, 01:59 PM

Yeah, if there was a cologne that had half the mojo as that smell, whoever invented it would be a billionaire.

mickill

01-25-2006, 02:00 PM

I've noticed that I sorta smell like a baby.

cosmo105

01-25-2006, 02:24 PM

Yeah, if there was a cologne that had half the mojo as that smell, whoever invented it would be a billionaire.
steger doesn't wear cologne too often (he really doesn't need to), but occasionally he'll spray some on (i think it's estee lauder pleasures for men) and i become hungry like the wolf.

yeahwho

01-25-2006, 02:34 PM

I have a ton of that stuff, mens cologne, but rarely use it. All the good stuff too. I dated a cosmetics counter (Nectar Nazi) technician from Macy's for a spell and ended up with all that stuff. I'm talking 30+ bottles of men's foo foo.

The girls at the counter told me their absolute fav on men was Fahrenheit Cologne by Christian Dior. Not that this has anything to do with romance, lust or feminine hygiene products. Just a FYI.

mickill

01-25-2006, 02:47 PM

I have a ton of that stuff, mens cologne, but rarely use it. All the good stuff too. I dated a cosmetics counter (Nectar Nazi) technician from Macy's for a spell and ended up with all that stuff. I'm talking 30+ bottles of men's foo foo.
Last count, I had about 42.

Fahrenheit isn't bad. Pleasures for men smells kinda feminine. I have a bottle of that.

marsdaddy

01-25-2006, 03:10 PM

They could design it to look like a six pack of Bud LightCould you imagine the late night beer run bloopers?

It's not so much that they go hand in hand, but one does lead to another. You can have lust without romance, but romance seems to lead to something else -- not so much lust as passion -- which is so much more than lust.

In the past, I may have been incapable of recognizing anything other than lust.

mickill

01-25-2006, 03:19 PM

I'm not suprised.
I'm not surprised you're not surprised.

Good point, marsdad. Lust isn't the same as passion. I think that's where some of you are kinda misconstruing the question. Passion involves actual feelings unlike lust. Lust is just some selfish craving.

cosmo105

01-25-2006, 03:25 PM

good point. i don't think i've felt pure lust, then, since i was a teenager. passion, on the other hand, is a beautiful thing.

mickill

01-25-2006, 03:34 PM

Anyway. So what's your favorites?
Wtf? What're we dating or something?

Fine...

Pasha and Santos by Cartier
Egoiste Platinum by Chanel
Acqua Di Gio by Armani
Brut by Faberge

LoVeIsBlOnDe128

01-25-2006, 04:00 PM

I have a weakness for a guy who smells good :rolleyes: ...This may be 2 much info but the other day i was with my boyfriend and i was kissing his neck and he had this very faint but pleasant scent and i was so incredibly turned on by his little 'suprise', even though it was such a simple and normal thing just being so close and getting this little like i said 'suprise' reminded me of how much i truly enjoy being with him.

In so many ways this thread applies to me, I'm a hopeless romantic always and forever but at times i can be somewhat 'sexual' if u will, but i know that the thought of sex and things is made so much better because of how much i truly love my boyfriend. On the subject of making love versus having sex i agree that making love is way more than just a physical thing, as corny as this is gonna sound it's kinda a joining of way more than just your hips, and at least personally you almost get more feeling than just having hot animalistic sex.

jammytastic

01-25-2006, 04:07 PM

i love lust

and i lust love. i dunno.

im not looking for a partner at the moment and ive only slept with one person in the last 2 months... i was going somewhere with this but i got interupted and shit.

sorry

hpdrifter

01-25-2006, 04:27 PM

I can see the difference between passion and lust. Given that, I can't remember the last time I felt pure lust. Probably when I was late teens or something.

I think I smelled Farenheit and thought it smelled like stale cigarettes and licoriche (sp?)

blech.

Sean likes Aqua di Gio and Chrome.

I also got him some Burberry London recently. He said he loved it.

Bob

01-25-2006, 04:29 PM

Aqua di Gio and Chrome.

whoa, i don't know anything about scents, but those are the only two i've ever used. what are the odds of that?

irrelevant information but that just caught my eye. carry on

mickill

01-25-2006, 04:56 PM

At least you're happy, though. So what if your sex drive has diminished, right?

And yeah, Burberry's good, C.

hpdrifter

01-25-2006, 04:57 PM

whoa, i don't know anything about scents, but those are the only two i've ever used. what are the odds of that?

irrelevant information but that just caught my eye. carry on

I think they're probably pretty high considering that both are pretty popular with guys.

mickill

01-25-2006, 05:03 PM

That's true. I can't even wear Acqua Di anymore, even though I do like it a lot. But I don't want to have the same scent as dude behind the counter at Wendy's and the kid that delivers the paper to my house.

Bob

01-25-2006, 05:05 PM

jammytastic

01-25-2006, 05:05 PM

i go weak at the knees for joop!

it does something weird to me. like get straight down on my knees. heh

mickill

01-25-2006, 05:07 PM

Oh hell. And Bob. No thanks.

No, I don't wear Brut, Crafty. Not since I was like 7.

I always thought Joop was too sweet smelling. Or maybe that's just the way it smells on me.

g-mile7

01-25-2006, 05:10 PM

mickill

01-25-2006, 05:20 PM

No. It smells good, but it got kinda played out pretty fast.

Even Bob probably has a bottle of that somewhere.

Bob

01-25-2006, 05:21 PM

for your information i don't

yet

befsquire

01-25-2006, 05:22 PM

bobby has 3 scents that drive me insane, in order:
pi by givenchy
burberry
issey miyaki

the issey miyaki grew on me. any of the above 3, and i could just eat him. the rest of his colognes i would just attack him in a regular manner.

mickill

01-25-2006, 05:27 PM

Issey Miyake doesn't seem to agree with my skin. It smells nice in the bottle, but whenever I put it on, it smells like hazelnuts.

befsquire

01-25-2006, 05:36 PM

you've always smelled like nuts to me

yeahwho

01-25-2006, 05:36 PM

I think I smelled Farenheit and thought it smelled like stale cigarettes and licoriche (sp?)

Chicks dig that.

Pasha and Santos by Cartier
Egoiste Platinum by Chanel
Acqua Di Gio by Armani

Those 3 are part of it, the stuff I have, Pi by Givenchy is the stuff I'm wearing today.....I have some stuff by Aramani, like 3 big bottles, I've used that Cool Water before......I don't know, maybe 5 days a month I'll put on the scent....if I did it at work I think the guys might get a little nervous. I am a damn good looking man.

Here is a Commentary from the Seattle Times on Mens "Body Fragrance (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/living/2002753919_fragranceguys23.html)" from a few days ago.

cosmo105

01-25-2006, 11:45 PM

i remember one guy i quasi-dated/didn't-date wore givenchy pour homme and it was pretty much mantastic.

Freebasser

01-25-2006, 11:48 PM

I smell like Kenny G records and spermicidal jelly.

Lindsey_1535

01-26-2006, 12:48 AM

I smell like Kenny G records and spermicidal jelly.
Callme

Sarky Devotchka

01-26-2006, 01:05 AM

I can't believe you guys know so much about cologne.

I'm allergic to most of it, so I don't know anything. I just know that when my friend andy goes out he wears cologne and I go, "eww, are you wearing cologne?" and he looks at me, outstretches his arms throws his head back and says, "what? it's dolce & gabbana baby, the ladies love it!" and he yanks at his collar like rodney dangerfield.

then I hit him repeatedly about the head.

my college boyfriend used to wear polo sometimes, yech. I used to accidentally get it in my mouth sometimes and it doesn't taste good!

ms.peachy

01-26-2006, 04:27 AM

Mr.p wears some kind of something from the Body Shop, I don't know what it's called. It's nice though, kind of woodsy, a bit like he's been chopping firewood and then had a nap in a pine grove. If I had give it a name I'd call it Lumberjack, but I'm quite sure that's not actually it - not a very good perfume name, is it. Maybe something more French-y would be better. Like Lumberjaques.

enree erzweglle

01-26-2006, 06:34 AM

I don't think I've ever been with a guy who wore cologne.

The most recent one did like higher end shower gels, but not cologne.

Most men's cologne is overwhelmingly strong. Acqua Di Gio is good and it's nearly gender neutral.

Documad

01-26-2006, 07:57 AM

I generally can't stand cologne, but gay men tend to pick out the better ones.
I don't have a true fragrance sensitivity but bad ones really bother me.
(Bad perfume bothers me more.)
The guy working next to me years ago smelled as bad as anyone could. I guessed it was Brut. He smelled stronger in the afternoon than in the morning. I raided his desk when he was out and in the bottom left drawer, all by itself, was a bottle of Brut. :p

I used to be unwilling to buy condoms by their lonesome. They would have to be wedged in a cart at Target with other things. I was a cashier there and when I was 16 I used to be embarrassed by such things.

Do you men prefer a male or female cashier when buying tampons? (I assume you've all seen Mr. Mom, btw? I love that movie.)

enree erzweglle

01-26-2006, 08:20 AM

Do you men prefer a male or female cashier when buying tampons?I absolutely target cashiers who will double-take some of the things that I buy.

Every now and then, I'll buy things in suspicious combination to see the reactions and to challenge myself to keep a straight face.

DandyFop

01-26-2006, 08:50 AM

I hate this confusion myself, something I am going through right now actually. Am I thinking of them all the time because of lust or because of something else? My problem is making the distinction because I'm a pretty lustful person, and waiting to see if someone is right before we get to a certain physical level, can be difficult and confusing.

blah, now I'm just sad.

jabumbo

01-26-2006, 08:56 AM

I absolutely target cashiers who will double-take some of the things that I buy.

Every now and then, I'll buy things in suspicious combination to see the reactions and to challenge myself to keep a straight face.

go to the center-craig giant eagle and you'll get those looks buying the simplest things...

oh yeah, and i can't stand cologne at all, so i never use it.i have a bottle at home that was used about 3 times if anyone wants it.

enree erzweglle

01-26-2006, 09:15 AM

go to the center-craig giant eagle and you'll get those looks buying the simplest things...
:D

Now that my office has moved, I work a block from center & craig. I've never gone that far north on craig (scary people) to know that there was a giant eagle there.

I'll have to venture up that way. In broad daylight.

I've heard about another store close to there and I want to see that store with my own eyes.

HEIRESS

01-26-2006, 09:59 AM

I've only made-out with three people in my entire life

true story

so that said, I dont allow the lustiness to commence until Im positive Id like to keep your around for awhile

DandyFop

01-26-2006, 10:07 AM

^ Can you teach me that trick? Cause I don't operate that way at all and I'd certainly like to.

mickill

01-26-2006, 10:25 AM

^You just need some kind of chastity belt for your mouth, Brabs.

I generally can't stand cologne, but gay men tend to pick out the better ones.

Do you men prefer a male or female cashier when buying tampons? (I assume you've all seen Mr. Mom, btw? I love that movie.)
The trouble with some dudes wearing fragrances is that they tend to put too much on. You gotta spray a little in the air and just sort of walk into it. You shouldn't be able to smell it on yourself, and a lot of times guys just keep spraying and spraying it on because they think it isn't quite noticeable enough yet. It should be subtle. If it's giving you a headache or hurting your sinuses, you should probably shower it off. Same goes for women.

I prefer to go to a male cashier if I happen to be picking up maxi pads for my better half so that I can just be like, "Yeah, I just use these to wipe the dashboard in my '68 Camaro with".

oh yeah, and i can't stand cologne at all, so i never use it.i have a bottle at home that was used about 3 times if anyone wants it.
Nobody wants your dad's old High Karate, man.

Kid Presentable

01-26-2006, 10:31 AM

I get fucked up and offer people tampons at nightclubs as if they were cigarettes.

fucktopgirl

01-26-2006, 10:39 AM

so kotex and cologne =lust and romance!!

hpdrifter

01-26-2006, 10:52 AM

mickill

01-26-2006, 11:08 AM

I'm surprised at the number of guys who have multiple types of cologne.

What kind of perfumes do you guys like on women? I'm trying to buy a new one and I think my taste runs a little to the old lady. The guys I have known seem to like Calvin Klein ones a lot and there's a Burberry Brit for women that's really nice.
Jenny has Burberry Burberry, not Brit. I like it a lot. Probably better than Brit. Both are nice. I don't really like any CK fragrances, though.

I think L'Eau D'Issey's a good one, even though it's a bit common.

fucktopgirl

01-26-2006, 11:12 AM

I cannot stand a guy who put like 12 tones of cologne,,i prefer a guy who smell fresh and where i can smell is real odor!!

hpdrifter

01-26-2006, 11:13 AM

I like Amarige de Givenchy a lot, but my sister wears it.

I did like the Burberry signature one too. Sean said he's gonna buy me some for Valentine's Day. Here's hoping its not CK One or Eternity.

My first boyfriend bought me Eternity because he had a crush on a teacher in high school who wore it.

:|

I really wanted to like that Sarah Jessica Parker one, but I just don't.

Has anyone smelled the Britney Spears ones? I smelled them out of curiousity because they had them at the counter. Oh. My. Dear. God. They actually smell like bubble gum. I'm totally serious. I mean, I thought they would be bad but not THAT bad.

blech.

marsdaddy

01-26-2006, 11:49 AM

Romance, Lust, Passion, Cologne. :confused:

I'm Zestfully clean.

beastieangel01

01-26-2006, 11:54 AM

I don't know what I'd apply to myself. I guess I go for the romance, but while in the romance, the lust part for the person I am in love with is on "high" so to speak.

I love lust when in love.

yeahwho

01-26-2006, 12:05 PM

Memorable Quotes from
Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy

Veronica Corningstone: My God, what is that smell? Oh!

Brian Fantana: That's the smell of desire my lady.

Veronica Corningstone: God no, it smells like, like a used diaper... filled with... Indian food! Oh, excuse me.

Brian Fantana: You know, desire smells like that to some people

Garth Holliday: What is that? Smells like a turd covered in burnt hair.

News Station Employee: Smells like Bigfoot's dick!