Hamas and W

[SobaViolence]

violence begets violence (http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060125/palestinian_elections_060126)

President George Bush said the U.S. "will not deal with a Palestinian political party that articulates violence.

"I don't see how you can be a partner in peace if you advocate the destruction of a country," Bush told reporters.


jesus....the irony.

[Ali]

I love the way W treats organisations that try to be legit... as terrorists.

How are they supposed to behave if they are forever branded as terrorists?

[Freedom Toast]

ahhh.....the smell of democracy in the middle east.....

[DroppinScience]

Um, isn't all the stuff Hamas does to be "legit" just a front so they can continue their terrorism?

Seriously...

[Monsieur Decuts]

I love the way W treats organisations that try to be legit... as terrorists.
How are they supposed to behave if they are forever branded as terrorists?

seriously.. when you dance around cause your kid killed himself in a market full of people just doing their own thing you're a terrorist.

Now we'll see if they have the balls to fight under a flag like an army, or to make peace cause they have the power they wanted.

Their behavior will determine their branding.

[SobaViolence]

terrorism is just a poor person's way of waging war.

besides, Hamas does do a lot for the community, founding schools and hospitals, etc....

would Palestine even be allowed to have a 'regualr' army, anyway?

[Echewta]

wasn't hamas "elected?" so strange...

[Ace42X]

Um, isn't all the stuff Hamas does to be "legit" just a front so they can continue their terrorism?

Seriously...

What, like persuing a UN resolution which you do not intend to use?

[franscar]

The situation leaves the Bush administration, which vigorously backed democratic elections, facing a Palestinian government led by what it describes as a terrorist group.

PWNED.

[DapperDiverge]

it's karma really... the US is upset with Palestine voting for hamas right?... well, well, well,... now the US knows how the rest of the world felt when we re-elected the Republicans... politics is like the super-bowl... a lot of tackling, fouling and bruising with crushed egos

democracy doesn't work... only for the majority, which isn't right all the time anyways... that's why you never hear of the third party or why the democrats are like that quiet kid you never knew was in your class nowadays... :rolleyes:

[SobaViolence]

must be why americans don't like democracy in action...

[Documad]

It's so funny that the US is constantly saying that it's trying to make the world over in its own image -- and that for many regular Americans, that means "democracy."

Why would our system work someplace that has almost nothing in common with us? It doesn't have our history, social values, etc. I can't understant how it's supposed to work in Iraq, for instance, or any country that was cobbled together after WWI.

So we overthrew governments that didn't advance our economic interest in our own hemisphere, but our government is still pretending that voting is magic when it suits our government.

[synch]

politics is like the super-bowl... a lot of tackling, fouling and bruising with crushed egosAnd many many burnt caps and shirts.

[ms.peachy]

As nice as it is to see Gearge and his boys get a sharp stick in the eye, I can't say as I'm exactly happy that Hamas has won. The only good thing that can be hoped for is that now they will actually have to deliver something more for their people than slogans and dead bodies.

[synch]

That's what I thought after dubya's election but I was proven wrong :(

[ms.peachy]

Indeed.

[SobaViolence]

That's what I thought after dubya's election but I was proven wrong :(

that's one big touche

[Ali]

Do you think anybody'd have heard of or cared about Hamas if they'd been peaceful? You have to break a few eggs, as they say... and for W to diss Hamas when a) they got democratically elected and b) they've killed far, far, FAR fewer innocents than W.

Pure hypocrisy.

Hamas is now a legitimate political party, like the ANC in South Africa (Nelson Mandela planted bombs which killed innocents, don't forget). They've got what they wanted and they have the majority of the vote. They have to behave themselves now. Why can't you see that? If W won't recognise their legitimatcy then why should they behave?

[kaiser soze]

wait a minute....what's W?

[synch]

George W Bush

[Ali]

wait a minute....what's W?Walker, Texas Rancher.

[Ali]

Doomed to fail.
Hamas won 76 of the 132 seats in the Palestinian assembly and has the backing of a further four independent MPs.

But Israel has indicated that newly elected Hamas legislators will not be granted free access between Gaza and the West Bank.

The BBC's Richard Myron in Jerusalem said it means Hamas MPs in Gaza will not be able to travel to the Palestinian parliament in Ramallah in the West Bank, as they would have to cross Israeli territory.

Our correspondent says if Israel does chose to confine Hamas legislators to Gaza, it will make governing the divided territories even more difficult.

Israel has cast doubt on its willingness to continue to transfer customs and tax revenue, worth $50m, collected on behalf of the Palestinian Authority.

"We will face practical problems of how you deal with people that call for the destruction of Israel," said Joseph Bachar, director general at the Israeli Finance Ministry.

But Mr Sinokrot said the authority would face financial hardship if Israel chose to withhold the funds, which go towards paying the salaries of some 135,000 civil servants.

"This is not donor money," he told Reuters. "If those salaries are not coming, this is a message for violence."

"The US administration and European countries should put pressure ... on the occupier and not the occupied and displaced Palestinian people," Ismail Haniya

[SobaViolence]

so, there's never been an angry israeli or jew that has called for the destruction of the palestinian people?

i find that hard to believe...

[Ali]

so, there's never been an angry israeli or jew that has called for the destruction of the palestinian people?

i find that hard to believe...They didn't have to. Palestine was destroyed for them.

[Ali]

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