The Stone Roses

[Guy Incognito]

On that songs that suck thread me and Ally got babbling about the stone roses. just wondered what everyone thought about them, got anythin interestin to say about them, what your favorite track is, do you think they are the most overrated/underrated band ever?

I think they were the dogs bollocks. I'm kinda glad they split up though and didnt go really shit. Best track is This Is The One and if you think they were overrated you are wrong! :D

[Ally Al]

i wish they'd dropped the 2nd album around fools gold/ what the world is waiting for time, two fucking fantastic records and very different at the same time, said hey you don't live today. stop the world, stop the world i'm gettin off

such a shame they got tied up in record company bollocks, one love was a class track from that period as well

when the album first dropped both the NME and Q wrote it off, both more or less said it was just retro pyshcadelic crap, and by the summer they were sucking their dicks big time

[Lex Diamonds]

The Stone Roses are definitely one of the Top 5 bands of all time. The Stone Roses is a perfect rock album. The band themselves are a great representation of the Manc rebel attitude. My brother met Mani in the supermarket the other day. He's going to one of my brother's band's gigs next week.

Ian Brown also sent me a letter and loads of signed CDs and vinyl and shit when I passed my GCSEs cuz my brother knows people in his record company. That was amazing. (y)

[Ally Al]

Ian Brown also sent me a letter and loads of signed CDs and vinyl and shit when I passed my GCSEs cuz my brother knows people in his record company. That was amazing. (y)[/QUOTE]


man of the people you see, shit hot!

[mickill]

Best track is This Is The One
That's my favorite song of theirs as well.

I don't think they're overrated at all. They're hardly even ever mentioned in North America. Not in the media, I mean.

I thought that Second Coming had its moments, but was overall a bit disappointment, as the general consensus seems to go. But I liked the direction they were going in; the harder, more riff-driven sound. They weren't just rehashing their debut. Driving South and Love Spreads were right up there with my favorites off the first album.

Where Angels Play is another favorite.

[Guy Incognito]

[QUOTE=mickill]

I thought that Second Coming had its moments, but was overall a bit disappointment, as the general consensus seems to go. But I liked the direction they were going in; the harder, more riff-driven sound. They weren't just rehashing their debut. Driving South and Love Spreads were right up there with my favorites off the first album.

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The Second Coming is a strange beast. It was obviously something that developed over time and they went in different directions whilst recording. Songs like Begging You,Good Times,Tightrope and Ten Storey Love Song are all so different. Its a good album but it was never gonna live up to over five years of hype. Its got some fuckin amazin tunes on it but its the sound of a band at odds with each other, at odds with how they wanted to sound.

[Mr_Complex]

Cracking band. I Wanna Be Adored is my favourite.

[Ally Al]

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The Second Coming is a strange beast. It was obviously something that developed over time and they went in different directions whilst recording. Songs like Begging You,Good Times,Tightrope and Ten Storey Love Song are all so different. Its a good album but it was never gonna live up to over five years of hype. Its got some fuckin amazin tunes on it but its the sound of a band at odds with each other, at odds with how they wanted to sound.[/QUOTE]

tightrope is a great song. i remember pre the release of the second coming (in the days before internet leaks and whatnot) the press saying they were sounding like a led zep and thinking fuck me thats sounds interesting. Do you have ride on from the ten storey love song single ? thats an ace tune

on a side note beck said fools gold was a big influence on him, when he heard it, it totally changed the way he looked at music and it's boundaries

[Guy Incognito]

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The Second Coming is a strange beast. It was obviously something that developed over time and they went in different directions whilst recording. Songs like Begging You,Good Times,Tightrope and Ten Storey Love Song are all so different. Its a good album but it was never gonna live up to over five years of hype. Its got some fuckin amazin tunes on it but its the sound of a band at odds with each other, at odds with how they wanted to sound.

tightrope is a great song. i remember pre the release of the second coming (in the days before internet leaks and whatnot) the press saying they were sounding like a led zep and thinking fuck me thats sounds interesting. Do you have ride on from the ten storey love song single ? thats an ace tune

on a side note beck said fools gold was a big influence on him, when he heard it, it totally changed the way he looked at music and it's boundaries[/QUOTE]

Fools gold - what a tune - i heard that the groove was a rip off of a CAN tune but i dont know anything about them so dont know the tune

[Ally Al]

Fools gold - what a tune - i heard that the groove was a rip off of a CAN tune but i dont know anything about them so dont know the tune[/QUOTE]

Can are a german group from the 70's i think, with a japanese singer (again i think), kraut rock, i've heard bits by them but i've never heard that

mani's influences are far and wide so you never know. the break is from a bobby byrd tune supposedly, i have the tune but i can't for the life of me hear the break on it

[Guy Incognito]

Fools gold - what a tune - i heard that the groove was a rip off of a CAN tune but i dont know anything about them so dont know the tune

Can are a german group from the 70's i think, with a japanese singer (again i think), kraut rock, i've heard bits by them but i've never heard that

mani's influences are far and wide so you never know. the break is from a bobby byrd tune supposedly, i have the tune but i can't for the life of me hear the break on it[/QUOTE]

I take it you have Whats it all about? by Run DMC?

[kaiser soze]

i used to like them waaaaaay back when, haven't taken a listen in while

maybe i should rediscover the stone roses

[Ally Al]

I take it you have Whats it all about? by Run DMC?[/QUOTE]


only on viynl

was it tunes splits the atom that sampled resurrection ?

[Lex Diamonds]

maybe i should rediscover the stone roses
Do it, man. Do it do it do it. (y)

Fools Gold is an awesome song, the mp3 of it has been my ringtone on my phone for over a year now. The funk guitar on that song is ridiculously good.

This Is The One is definitely one of my favourite songs of all time. Man United play it in the stadium at the start of their matches to get the crowd hyped up. Quality. (y)

[Guy Incognito]

I take it you have Whats it all about? by Run DMC?


only on viynl

was it tunes splits the atom that sampled resurrection ?[/QUOTE]

Yes it was MC Tunes

[Ally Al]

Yes it was MC Tunes[/QUOTE]


no, i know it was tunes, i meant was the song called tunes splits the atom ??

[Guy Incognito]

Yes it was MC Tunes


no, i know it was tunes, i meant was the song called tunes splits the atom ??[/QUOTE]

Oh - yeah

[Kid Presentable]

My favourite three are Fool's Gold, I wanna be adored and She Bangs the Drums.

Oddly, I really enjoy Love Spreads and Breaking into Heaven, but I couldn't put anything that's not off their first album down as one of the top 3.

The build up of I wanna Be adored, and how simple yet full of intent the lyrics and music are just make it so badass.

RE: Shaun of the Dead, digging for records to throw at the Zombies.

"Second Coming?"

"I like it!"

:D

[DroppinScience]

What's the last track off their debut album called?

That song is always used as the last song at The Mod Club and makes for a great finale to a night of clubbing. (y)

[Guy Incognito]

What's the last track off their debut album called?

That song is always used as the last song at The Mod Club and makes for a great finale to a night of clubbing. (y)

I am the resurrection.

[Mr_Complex]

I Am The Resurrection is brilliant, too.

[discopants]

I like em but I think they are overated.

The Stone Roses are definitely one of the Top 5 bands of all time.

Sorry Padster, but they aren't in the top 5 Manchester bands of all time.

[Guy Incognito]

I like em but I think they are overated.



Sorry Padster, but they aren't in the top 5 Manchester bands of all time.

Thats a bold statement - your gonna have to name 5 bands from manchester better that the roses - I'd be hard pushed to name 5 bands from anywhere that i like more than the roses!

The 5 best bands from manchester in my opinion are:

The Stone Roses
The Smiths
New Order
Oasis
Happy Mondays

[Ally Al]

I like em but I think they are overated.



Sorry Padster, but they aren't in the top 5 Manchester bands of all time.



like Gi said i'd be interested to hear your list of bands from manchester that are better......and please don't say inspiral carpets

[Guy Incognito]

like Gi said i'd be interested to hear your list of bands from manchester that are better......and please don't say inspiral carpets

I will say this about the carpets though - this is how it feels is one of the best songs ever to come out of manchester. Saw them at glastonbury a coupla years ago and they finished "Joe" and then said "here's a new one we've just done" - massive groan from the crowd then the organ to this is how it feels comes in - crowd went narnaz.

[Ally Al]

I will say this about the carpets though - this is how it feels is one of the best songs ever to come out of manchester. Saw them at glastonbury a coupla years ago and they finished "Joe" and then said "here's a new one we've just done" - massive groan from the crowd then the organ to this is how it feels comes in - crowd went narnaz.

It was with dude bein from oldham that i mentioned IC's, they were only ever ok to me, few good 12's but the album was proper disappointment. Joe was class tho, and i always dug/ digged (?) their version of gimme shelter, peel session sif i remember correctly

[Guy Incognito]

and i always dug/ digged (?) their version of gimme shelter, peel session sif i remember correctly


Never heard that - you got it? its dug btw

[Ally Al]

Never heard that - you got it? its dug btw

thanks and unfortunately no, i've had a lot of light fingered bastard "friends" over the years, don't get me started on the viynl i've had taxed over the years

[thegoodmrbrodie!]

they have some nice songs that's for sure, but...they are pretty much my definition of an overrated band.

better manchester bands...for me...

808 state.
chemical brothers.
new order.
joy division.
the smiths.
the charlatans.
the fall.
take that.

[Guy Incognito]

Dont wanna be a pedantic twat here but

better manchester bands...for me...

808 state.
chemical brothers. - not from manchester - met at man uni but both southerners
new order.
joy division.
the smiths.
the charlatans. - not from manchester (northwich & walsall)
the fall.
take that.- are you serious?

[Ally Al]

they have some nice songs that's for sure, but...they are pretty much my definition of an overrated band.

better manchester bands...for me...

808 state.
chemical brothers.
new order.
joy division.
the smiths.
the charlatans.
the fall.
take that.


what GI said, and i reckon the only group in that list coming any where near are the smiths and thats only becaus they were a direct influence on the roses. i mean don't get me wrong, very good band and all that but it's the roses for me all the way

[thegoodmrbrodie!]

ok replace...

the chemical brothers with wayne fontana and the mindbenders.

and

the charlatans with claro intelecto.

[Ally Al]

ok

nah, still not having it

[thegoodmrbrodie!]

oh well.

:)

[Ally Al]

oh well.

:)

always worth a try tho (y)

[discopants]

Hello folks, I'm back again. Sorry about the delay.
Here's my 5

1) Joy Division. Oh yes, Can you feel it- the tingle up your spine? Thats Hooky's bass. The cold shiver- thats Barney's super cool guitaring, The blood surging- thats Steve's hummingbird drumming. The feel as you leave the confines of your body and never wanna go back? Thats Ian Curtis tearing the fucking world apart.

2) The Fall. How do you some this group up. Paul Jones might give you some superlatives. Go listen to Suid Lord. Mark E. Smith is a legend.

3) New Order. Im gonna count them as a seperate band to JD. Went naff during the 90's but back on Track. Not much can top songs like Temptation, Perfect Kiss, Bizarre Love Triangle, True Faith and Blue Monday for giving you a buzz that shouldn't be legal, even in Holland.

4) The Smiths. Lest we not forget, Johnny Marr was one of the greatest guitarists ever. Downbeat but funny- bittersweet. People who don't like The Smiths just haven't givin em a chance.

5) Oasis. Woah, it's okay, I'm gonna add prefix- Oasis before they went shit. Definately Maybe and Whats the Story are banging albums, I don't care what any fucker says.


The Stone roses are in the 5- 10 region along with:
Yup, the Inspital Carpets, I Want You and Dragging Me Down being daddies, its Boony's organ tinkling that elevates it to being smart pop music- if such a thing exists.
Happy Mondays
Chameleons- Swamp Thing makes the world a better place.
Puressance
808 State- admittedly not an expert but the shit kicks arse.
I can give or take The Charlies.

[Guy Incognito]

Hello folks, I'm back again. Sorry about the delay.
Here's my 5

1) Joy Division. Oh yes, Can you feel it- the tingle up your spine? Thats Hooky's bass. The cold shiver- thats Barney's super cool guitaring, The blood surging- thats Steve's hummingbird drumming. The feel as you leave the confines of your body and never wanna go back? Thats Ian Curtis tearing the fucking world apart.

2) The Fall. How do you some this group up. Paul Jones might give you some superlatives. Go listen to Suid Lord. Mark E. Smith is a legend.

3) New Order. Im gonna count them as a seperate band to JD. Went naff during the 90's but back on Track. Not much can top songs like Temptation, Perfect Kiss, Bizarre Love Triangle, True Faith and Blue Monday for giving you a buzz that shouldn't be legal, even in Holland.

4) The Smiths. Lest we not forget, Johnny Marr was one of the greatest guitarists ever. Downbeat but funny- bittersweet. People who don't like The Smiths just haven't givin em a chance.

5) Oasis. Woah, it's okay, I'm gonna add prefix- Oasis before they went shit. Definately Maybe and Whats the Story are banging albums, I don't care what any fucker says.




No arguments with new order, smiths and joy division. Oasis just about but they took so much from the roses that you cant have them in the top 5 and not have the roses. The first two oasis albums are top, the third one is patchy - the fourth is awful , the fifth has some ok stuff and the new one is a proper return to form - really good. I have issues with The Fall , i dont get them- done some ok stuff but considerin they have been around for so long, I think they are defintley a case of quantity over quality.

[discopants]

No arguments with new order, smiths and joy division. Oasis just about but they took so much from the roses that you cant have them in the top 5 and not have the roses. The first two oasis albums are top, the third one is patchy - the fourth is awful , the fifth has some ok stuff and the new one is a proper return to form - really good. I have issues with The Fall , i dont get them- done some ok stuff but considerin they have been around for so long, I think they are defintley a case of quantity over quality.

Fair do's- I do like the Roses after all and Oasis only nick it cos I have really cool memories of oasis from my schooldays. I think its unfair to start saying how borrowed from who cos everyones influenced by someone. On The Fall, I see what you mean but I recently got the Fall Peel Sessions boxset- there 97 tracks and not many of them feel like fillers. Whatever happened to Paul Jones? Could do with his Fall input. The Carpets are still cool though. Chances of them getting back together I hear.

[Mr_Complex]

they have some nice songs that's for sure, but...they are pretty much my definition of an overrated band.

better manchester bands...for me...

808 state.
chemical brothers.
new order.
joy division.
the smiths.
the charlatans.
the fall.
take that.

Anyone that comes up with a song as good as Could It Be Magic deserves some recognition.

[SEFO CAPONE]

BLOWUPSCHOOL.COM

[Guy Incognito]

The Carpets are still cool though. Chances of them getting back together I hear.

They are back together but think they are just performing live - no new stuff - saw them at glasto 2003 and they were ace.

[Guy Incognito]

Anyone that comes up with a song as good as Could It Be Magic deserves some recognition.

Well be sure give to give Barry Manilow my regards then - he wrote it!

[Lihi]

Well be sure give to give Barry Manilow my regards then - he wrote it!

On the constant band fight that raged between Take That and East 17 back in the days, I gave my vote to East 17. Those baggy pants were asweome!!! :p

[Ally Al]

On the constant band fight that raged between Take That and East 17 back in the days, I gave my vote to East 17. Those baggy pants were asweome!!! :p


and terry and john threw up some MEAN hand gestures, especially on the stay another day video......DON'T FINK I CAN TAKE PAIN, WON'T YOU STAY ANOVER DAY!!!!

[discopants]

They are back together but think they are just performing live - no new stuff - saw them at glasto 2003 and they were ace.

An album would be cool- with Boony singing some of the tracks. Live you say? I'm gonna sticking my nose to the ground.

[discopants]

Would you believe it- after all this Inspiral Carpets chat i was in HMZ and happened to see their live at Brixton DVD which I've never actually seen in the flesh (plastic?) so I bought it. I'll be spinning Oldham's finest purveyers of organ based psychedelic pop later...

[Hamkins]

My dad almost arrested ths stone roses once, back when he was in the fuzz (That's the police for the uneducated amongst you.), for hanging around london at 2am.

[discopants]

My dad almost arrested ths stone roses once, back when he was in the fuzz (That's the police for the uneducated amongst you.), for hanging around london at 2am.

I bet Mani's been caught by the fuzz a few times.