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Bob
02-25-2006, 11:57 PM
what if i'm a tragic hero? how would i know? i mean, i think i'm a good man. i think i'm noble. i think i have wonderful intentions. but what if i have a tragic flaw? maybe my purpose in life is to provide catharsis to a bunch of fucking peons. maybe i'm just here to serve as an example of what to fucking NOT to do. how would i know?

Lindsey_1535
02-25-2006, 11:58 PM
hey bob, your a cool cat. I aprrove of you.

Bob
02-26-2006, 12:00 AM
thank you ANTIGONE

Lindsey_1535
02-26-2006, 12:05 AM
I DONT KNOWW

ToucanSpam
02-26-2006, 12:28 AM
Bob, everyone has a hamartia, or 'tragic flaw'; the thing is, you can't spend time thinking about what you're tragic flaw is, because that overthinking might be your tragic flaw. Oedipus didn't know he was 'destined' to kill his father and marry his mother. Bob, you may be destined to do great things, but spending vast amounts of time thinking about what that may be would be your hamartia.

Documad
02-26-2006, 12:29 AM
I have an otherwise nice friend who gets a tad pompous sometimes. So, a while ago my friend heard me call it "Antigone," and she said, "it's called The Antigone, and I don't want you to sound stupid."

kaiser soze
02-26-2006, 12:45 AM
I'm Creon bitch

cosmo105
02-26-2006, 01:57 AM
thank you ANTIGONE
i played antigone in my freshman year of high school.


your tragic flaw is you're too shy to get the things and relationships you deserve.

SobaViolence
02-26-2006, 02:02 AM
i'm John the Savage from A Brave New World

Bob
02-26-2006, 02:08 AM
i played antigone in my freshman year of high school.


your tragic flaw is you're too shy to get the things and relationships you deserve.

that and i'm kind of condescending (condescending means to descend to the level of one considered inferior, if you didn't know)

cosmo105
02-26-2006, 02:17 AM
i hate you so hard.

Knuckles
02-26-2006, 02:26 AM
I think I'm a little like The Man In The Yellow Hat.

DandyFop
02-26-2006, 04:25 AM
Fcuk you Oepdipius. I'm fuckkng wrtiting your shit! Like, fucking new take zombine shit , man. Bob fucking NEW SHIT. OMG .......

Not durnk azonbie shit but regular fucking NEW ZOMBIE OEDPUS ROX SHIT THATS RIGHT

BOB I AM SORRY DRUNK

roosta
02-26-2006, 04:46 AM
my only flaw is that im too perfect.

paul jones
02-26-2006, 04:55 AM
I'm like the kid in Peanuts who has dust coming off him

DandyFop
02-26-2006, 05:02 AM
for serious. The Oedipus zombie movie I have planned....CULT CLASSIC

Thundercracker
02-26-2006, 11:57 AM
I'm Laos.

Bob
02-26-2006, 12:56 PM
man, i make lame threads when i'm drunk. i'm not a tragic hero, i'm just an unremarkable dork. how embarrassing :(

guerillaGardner
02-26-2006, 02:00 PM
Maybe you think too much.

Planetary
02-26-2006, 03:35 PM
i thought this was a cool, thread. better than the 'guess who's eye i just jizzed in' or whatever.

Sarky Devotchka
02-26-2006, 06:57 PM
ha ha, bob wants to do his mom.

Bob
02-26-2006, 08:14 PM
ha ha, bob wants to do his mom.

it's not that i want to, it's that i'm probably going to end up doing it by accident or something

DandyFop
02-26-2006, 08:49 PM
You should star in my movie. She's a corpse in it. Sweet.

Nuzzolese
02-27-2006, 12:34 PM
I pity the fool.

hpdrifter
02-27-2006, 12:43 PM
Actually, I think Oedipus did know that was going to happen. He was trying to avoid it happening but it happened anyway. Lesson: Fate is your daddy.

synch
02-27-2006, 12:46 PM
If I remember correctly his father knew it was going to happen and tried to avoid it.

He didn't even know it was his father he murdered and his mother he married.

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 12:49 PM
Oooh! Oooh!

Can I be Prometheus?

hpdrifter
02-27-2006, 12:50 PM
you are fate's bitch.

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 01:20 PM
that's depressing

Bob
02-27-2006, 03:00 PM
Actually, I think Oedipus did know that was going to happen. He was trying to avoid it happening but it happened anyway. Lesson: Fate is your daddy.

well i mean, he knew it was fated to happen, but he didn't want it to happen. he wasn't like "man i can't wait to murder my father and sleep with my mother", it was just that due to all his efforts to avoid doing that, he ended up doing it, in a tragic twist of fate and stuff....or maybe it was his father who knew it, or maybe they both did, i don't remember, i haven't read it in ages

hpdrifter
02-27-2006, 03:08 PM
Bob is unfailingly funny.

Its effortless, you just have to be tuned in.

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 03:09 PM
Oedipus teaches us a big lesson:

Never... NEVER try to take out your contacts while tripping on acid.

hpdrifter
02-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Is that avatar courtesy of Knuckles?

I have not, in fact, received mine yet.

Bob
02-27-2006, 03:11 PM
That's right, but you forgot to say something funny.


....wakka wakka wakka

Echewta
02-27-2006, 03:12 PM
Hi! Sorry, but have they made a movie about what Bob is talking about because I dont get it.

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 03:13 PM
Is that avatar courtesy of Knuckles?

I have not, in fact, received mine yet.



-- you talkin' to me?

Whether you are or not -- this is a Knuckles avatar. I may keep it for the rest of my days here.

adam_f
02-27-2006, 03:13 PM
You do not look like Philip Seymour Hoffman, az. More like Howie Mandel.

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 03:14 PM
Hi! Sorry, but have they made a movie about what Bob is talking about because I dont get it.


Soul Plane revisited those very themes not long ago.

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 03:33 PM
You do not look like Philip Seymour Hoffman, az. More like Howie Mandel.



Kareem. (y)

abcdefz
02-27-2006, 03:34 PM
You do not look like Philip Seymour Hoffman, az. More like Howie Mandel.



Gawd -- who the hell said I looked like Hoffman? I'm pretty sure I'm better looking than that.

adam_f
02-27-2006, 03:41 PM
I said you looked like Hoffman before I knew what you looked like. I just assumed. You are a sexy individual, sugarpie.

synch
02-27-2006, 03:49 PM
well i mean, he knew it was fated to happen, but he didn't want it to happen. he wasn't like "man i can't wait to murder my father and sleep with my mother", it was just that due to all his efforts to avoid doing that, he ended up doing it, in a tragic twist of fate and stuff....or maybe it was his father who knew it, or maybe they both did, i don't remember, i haven't read it in ages
This is how I remember it:

Man goes to see oracle, oracle tells him his son is going to kill him and marry his mother. Man sends the son to be killed. Man who is supposed to kill the son can't get himself to kill a baby and raises it as his own. Fast forward a couple of decades and the man ends up killing his father and marrying his wife, in no doubt zany circumstances. Think Benny hill music and fast forwarding.

Or maybe not.

Damn.

Going to have to look it up now.

synch
02-27-2006, 04:03 PM
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/myth.htm

Close enough :)

Bob
02-27-2006, 04:03 PM
that sounds right...i just can't remember if oedipus was filled in on the prophecy too. if he wasn't, then man, that is way tragic. poor guy doesn't know what the fuck

DandyFop
02-27-2006, 06:08 PM
This is how I remember it:

Man goes to see oracle, oracle tells him his son is going to kill him and marry his mother. Man sends the son to be killed. Man who is supposed to kill the son can't get himself to kill a baby and raises it as his own. Fast forward a couple of decades and the man ends up killing his father and marrying his wife, in no doubt zany circumstances. Think Benny hill music and fast forwarding.

Or maybe not.

Damn.

Going to have to look it up now.

yeah close, but the guy who took Oedi isn't the one who raised him. That was the other guy.

synch
02-27-2006, 06:26 PM
Yeah, saw that in the site I checked :)

I also didn't remember the second oracle thing. Maybe I never knew that bit.

On the other hand, I haven't studied greek mythology since the early nineties.

DandyFop
02-27-2006, 06:46 PM
Second oracle? Oh you mean the one Oedi hears himself and then he's all "fuck this shit, I ain't goin home!"

g-mile7
02-28-2006, 04:20 PM
Oedipus, the legendary Greek king who killed his father and married his mother, was "the original gangsta" and a "mack daddy" who looked like James Brown. At least that's how the story goes in a new hip-hop musical.

The Seven is an updated version of Aeschylus's tragedy Seven Against Thebes, the story of the two sons of Oedipus who take up arms against each other after he curses them.

The program for the play includes a glossary explaining that "mack daddy" is slang for "a pimp; or a man who is popular with the ladies," and that Homer was the author of epic poems "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" before he became a cartoon character on "The Simpsons."

Will Power, the rapper and playwright responsible for The Seven, said he was drawn to Greek tragedy by the mythology, which reminded him of the larger-than-life figures in the poor black San Francisco neighborhood where he grew up. "There's so much mythology within my own world," Power said. "A lot of the stories that I have are real-life people but they became larger than life."

Power not only saw connections in the issues and characters of the myths but he also found parallels in the form of Greek verse and rap, both with staccato lyrics and rhythms. "Supposedly back in the day they were performing it in rhythm, in chanting and dance," said Power, who began performing as a rapper as a teenager before training at the Tisch School of the Arts at New York University.

This is the stuff of Greek mythology all right, but mixed up and scratched out, and given a back beat that recasts these ancient curses and conflicts in a modern form. The narrator is also a DJ, and she mixes up the records much as a playwright mixes a story. Above her, on a raised portion of the set is Oedipus, the angry, sneering, cursed soul who dons a cane, a leather coat and a pair of shades as he screams from the rafters and passes his curse down to his sons.

Everywhere you look, the show is reaching out to draw you in. In the place of mournful soliloquies are a series of angry and creative hip-hop melodies, songs that sample everything from the improvisational style of Stomp to the roof-raising energy of James Brown. In the place of classical prose is a game of modern references and wordplay, littered with phrases such as "hella guards," "player haters" "Original O.D.B.," "Mulder and Scully," and "Punk’d."

Productions like The Seven and playwrights like Power prove that his brand of theater —an experience that spins together hip-hop and Sophocles just as easily as it brings together a crowd of old white theater buffs and young black hip-hop fans, bouncing in their seats — is one of the ways this often-sanitized art form will remain fresh, particularly for a new generation.

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