crush killer

[Sarky Devotchka]

him: yeah, I did heroin for like 10 years, but I've been clean for 7 months now.

me: you sound like dustin hoffman when you talk.

him: yeah, I get that all the time, edward norton too.



in my head: fuck fuck fuck fuck, why heroin? why 10 years? 7 months? that's not even a year!


this will not stand. next.

[mickill]

There's not a very good full recovery rate for heroin users. I think it's even worse than it is for crack. I could understand your reluctance to continue crushing.

[Ace42X]

him: yeah, I did heroin for like 10 years,

Hahahahahhaha. I think that says a lot about your selection criteria in men.

[ASsman]

Where are you finding these men. Reality TV?

[Sarky Devotchka]

Hahahahahhaha. I think that says a lot about your selection criteria in men.

hey! it's not my fault. I had no idea. He looks like a normal guy, not a junkie. he's really nice and smart. but cripe, a history of hard drug use? no thanks. although 5 years ago I might have found it romantic. because I liked trainspotting so much.
:rolleyes:

[na§tee]

because I liked trainspotting so much.
ha! if only all the scottish heroin users looked like ewan mcgregor and jonny lee miller! man, i can assure you; this is not the case!

on topic though; drugs are BAD. BADBADBABDBADBDABDBAD. heroin is way too hardkore dude. it's a NO from miss na§tee. oooh, i feel like that scene in shallow grave [sticking with the scottish films here] where we're interviewing flatmates, but instead it's for good boys for sarky! :)

[Qdrop]

Psychological institutions could write books and books about Sarky.

[ms.peachy]

Hmm. On the one hand, I think you should run a mile. On the other, if he's really turned his life around, maybe he's trying to surround himself with new people who aren't part of that old life. 7 months isn't very long though, you might be right to walk away from a romantic relationship with this guy. I would say be very honest with him though and tell him, because even though it might be painful for him to hear it, as part of his recovery, he needs to acknowledge how the bad choices of his past continue to impact his present.

[Sarky Devotchka]

hey! rude! I am a lovely person! very amiable!

[hpdrifter]

Well, he may be wanting to turn over a new leaf, but 10 years of herion use probably also implies some other possible issues, namely AIDS and other STDs. I mean, I don't know, but I would think if he was a junkie he probably shared needles and/or exchanged sex for drugs or money. If I were going to date him I would insist on a full medical evaluation.

That's a bummer to find out something so fucked up about someone you like.

[mickill]

Hmm. On the one hand, I think you should run a mile. On the other, if he's really turned his life around, maybe he's trying to surround himself with new people who aren't part of that old life. 7 months isn't very long though, you might be right to walk away from a romantic relationship with this guy. I would say be very honest with him though and tell him, because even though it might be painful for him to hear it, as part of his recovery, he needs to acknowledge how the bad choices of his past continue to impact his present.
I don't know, ms. p. I've known a couple of people that went back to using without much persuading, simply because they felt sorry for themselves and/or abandoned by people who couldn't relate to their addictions. Telling him straight out that she doesn't want to get involved with him because of his former drug habit might not be the most considerate approach. I do agree that he needs to acknowledge the harsh reality of his own bad choices, but it can be a delicate issue for most people, I think. He'd probably be able to do the math himself, anyway, if she shows a loss of interest. I don't think it needs to be so directly asserted.

[ms.peachy]

I don't know, ms. p. I've known a couple of people that went back to using without much persuading, simply because they felt sorry for themselves and/or abandoned by people who couldn't relate to their addictions. Telling him straight out that she doesn't want to get involved with him because of his former drug habit might not be the most considerate approach. I do agree that he needs to acknowledge the harsh reality of his own bad choices, but it can be a delicate issue for most people, I think. He'd probably be able to do the math himself, anyway, if she shows a loss of interest. I don't think it needs to be so directly asserted.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think she can be honest without being cruel. As in "I really respect that you've made this huge change in your life and I'm very glad to have met you, but I'm leery of getting too emotionally involved with someone who's energy is still focussed on facing down demons that are this powerful."

[yeahwho]

him: yeah, I did heroin for like 10 years, but I've been clean for 7 months now.

me: you sound like dustin hoffman when you talk.

him: yeah, I get that all the time, edward norton too.



in my head: fuck fuck fuck fuck, why heroin? why 10 years? 7 months? that's not even a year!


this will not stand. next.

I hate to say it...your right. next.

[mickill]

I understand where you're coming from, but I think she can be honest without being cruel. As in "I really respect that you've made this huge change in your life and I'm very glad to have met you, but I'm leery of getting too emotionally involved with someone who's energy is still focussed on facing down demons that are this powerful."
You're more or less right. I'm sure not all former users are the same, but the ones I've known have, at times, just basically looked for excuses to lean on so they could go back to poisoning themselves. It can get annoying real fast. I was just thinking she might not want that weighing on her conscience if that were to ever happen. But I know I'm generalizing. And really, it's not her problem, either way.

[Dorothy Wood]

yeah, I just found out this guy died last night of an overdose. and my good friend found him in his apartment, he had moved away and was back for a visit. fell into a hole I guess. shit, the title of this thread! good christ.

[TurdBerglar]

did he stink?

[Dorothy Wood]

:mad: he wasn't dead for long I don't think. shit. I feel really bad for my friend that found him. he's a tough kid though.

[TurdBerglar]

the neighbor that killed himself stunk. we didn't know what it was for about a week. then we noticed all the mail and newspapers that had pilled up at his front door. then we were all like oh shit.


6'6" 250lb dead guy in august is one potent smell.

[Randetica]

shocking

[ms.peachy]

yeah, I just found out this guy died last night of an overdose. and my good friend found him in his apartment, he had moved away and was back for a visit. fell into a hole I guess. shit, the title of this thread! good christ.
wow. :(

[DandyFop]

one of my old supervisors at work whom I hang out with on the occassion used heroin and one of my best friends was/is in love with him, huzzzaaahh! But I think he's replaced it with World of Warcraft.

[skra75]

:confused: :(
what a nuts fucking story. was this the bartender?

[Dorothy Wood]

:confused: :(
what a nuts fucking story. was this the bartender?

nay. he was a friend/former roommate of one of my good friends. we were supposed to play 4 player Bond together. :( I didn't really know him that well, but I know he was a pretty gentle and caring person from what I'd seen. also really logical/practical seeming. so it's sad. it's just like, wow, that guy's just not alive anymore.... people my age aren't supposed to die like that man. that shit's for assholes, not nice boys like him. when I was first introduced to him, he didn't even look at me, and I said to my friend, "well, he's not impressed!" and my friend said, "this is [dorothy], she's cool" and said to me "he thought you were probably just some annoying chick", but after the thumbs up we talked and had a good time. and then the time when my other friend was puking in the bathroom and that guy was like, "hey man, are you okay?" and my other friend was like, "fuck him, he's a pussy, leave him be". but that guy was all concerned and being nice. :(

sorry, I'm drunk on a monday.

[beastieangel01]

wow that's quite something. Don't blame you for passing that one up.

I was drunk on Monday too, no worries.