channeling angels

[monkey]

do you believe in it? do you know anyone who does it? have you ever had it done?

[ms.peachy]

I believe in Charlie's Angels.

[Nuzzolese]

do you believe in it? do you know anyone who does it? have you ever had it done?

Could you elaborate on this a little? I've heard of channeling the deceased but not angels.

[monkey]

Could you elaborate on this a little? I've heard of channeling the deceased but not angels.

basically, it is said that everyone has an angel, a guardian angel. this angel can help you figure things out and the such. it works like channeling the deceased, but this is more personal. this angel basically can help you navigate through life, if you're open to recieving it's advice. often your guardian angel represents someone in your life, someone deceased, or something like that. im not all that knowledgable on it. my mom is a big hippie that believes in this stuff, and i kinda wanna learn more, but im not sure how. i was hoping someone here knew something about it.

i have had instances where poeple have said theyve contacted my angel and told me things that were absolutely true. detailed information. it's sorta like believing in psychics and the such.

[beastiegirrl101]

I have an energy healer that I go to and she calls them 'guides'. And we all have several, not just one.

[monkey]

what do you do with an energy healer?

[Qdrop]

i don't entirely understand the mentality behind these kind of beliefs.

why do people have to feel like they have someone "up there" helping them?
why can't we deal with shit on our own? stand on our own 2 feet?

why would you WANT to talk an angel and have them figure out your problems?
what would you learn from that?
that's a pussy bitch way out....

take care of your own shit.
make your own decisions...and stand by them.
learn from them.
become wiser.

[monkey]

sometimes, your brain becomes clouded by your own thoughts. way too many of them. often having someone else telling you what to focus on helps.

[Anne Lauren]

Hey, I definately beleive in "guardian angels"...or whatever that means.

My senior year in highschool, I was in a major car accident. One of my boyfriend's friends was driving...and the car was piled up with people. I remember we were smoking a joint and it was raining a little bit...well, he took a curve going to fast and the car started sliding and slide off the road into these people's yard, which was big and had a fairly steep slope. Well, the car, apparently, had slid off into the yard at just the right angle to cause it to flip. I remember it flipped about once, then landed on it's side. None of us were wearing seatbelts, so we were all over the place. I thought I was going to break my neck because all my friend's body weight was being put on the side of my neck and head...and I couldn't do anything about it. I started having an anxiety attack after we landed.

Well, the girl in the passenger's seat, sustained temporary brain damage...the part of her brain that is in charge of long term memory (cognitive skills) had been bruised. She couldn't read or write very well, after that...she had to spend a great deal of time in physical therapy. My boyfriend broke 2 of his ribs. It was the scariest thing I've ever had happen to me. And, the car was completely totaled...it was amazing how much damage was done.

[Qdrop]

Hey, I definately beleive in "guardian angels"...or whatever that means.

My senior year in highschool, I was in a major car accident. One of my boyfriend's friends was driving...and the car was piled up with people. I remember we were smoking a joint and it was raining a little bit...well, he took a curve going to fast and the car started sliding and slide off the road into these people's yard, which was big and had a fairly steep slope. Well, the car, apparently, had slid off into the yard at just the right angle to cause it to flip. I remember it flipped about once, then landed on it's side. None of us were wearing seatbelts, so we were all over the place. I thought I was going to break my neck because all my friend's body weight was being put on the side of my neck and head...and I couldn't do anything about it. I started having an anxiety attack after we landed.

Well, the girl in the passenger's seat, sustained temporary brain damage...the part of her brain that is in charge of long term memory (cognitive skills) had been bruised. She couldn't read or write very well, after that...she had to spend a great deal of time in physical therapy. My boyfriend broke 2 of his ribs. It was the scariest thing I've ever had happen to me. And, the car was completely totaled...it was amazing how much damage was done.

what's important is.......

did you pay for the guys yard damage? hello?

[Nuzzolese]

What does a car accident have to do with a guardian angel? Where was the angel when the car slid? Why do you pick and chose what are gifts and blessings, and what are curses and tests? If it makes you happy, it's guardian angel, it's luck. If not, it's a test? It seems so arbitrarily defined based on personal preference and pleasantness. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. I could be confused, or oversimplifying it.

[Qdrop]

What does a car accident have to do with a guardian angel? Where was the angel when the car slid? Why do you pick and chose what are gifts and blessings, and what are curses and tests? If it makes you happy, it's guardian angel, it's luck. If not, it's a test? It seems so arbitrarily defined based on personal preference and pleasantness.

^you just pinpointed a BIG philisophical reason why i don't believe in God(s), religions, the occult...

[mickill]

I've seen things and have heard firsthand accounts from people whom I trust that have scared the crap out of me, so I do believe that spirits can be summoned and all that. But I don't believe that "angels" or deceased loved ones per se are what we tend to encounter. I think they're just demons.

[TurdBerglar]

angel and jesus live down the street from me. i guess i could just call them

[roosta]

What does a car accident have to do with a guardian angel? Where was the angel when the car slid? Why do you pick and chose what are gifts and blessings, and what are curses and tests? If it makes you happy, it's guardian angel, it's luck. If not, it's a test? It seems so arbitrarily defined based on personal preference and pleasantness. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. I could be confused, or oversimplifying it.

i believe in God but i dont believe in devine or angelic intervention at all. that's just offensive.

[Qdrop]

we are responsible for our own actions.

why do we always look to blame bad shit on made-up monsters?....

as if people refuse to believe that man alone is capable of attrocities....

[TurdBerglar]

jesus monsters!

[abcdefz]

I've had spirit guides before, and I wouldn't go there again. I think it's bad stuff that poses as good.

Having the holy spirit is a different thing altogether. But even then, you have to have real discernment to know when it's God's spirit or evil posing as God's spirit. It can be tricky.

[TurdBerglar]

you mean spirits as in alcohol, right?

[ChrisLove]

angels (y)

We have a guy on TV in the UK called Derren Brown who is a kind of psycologist I guess.

He has done a number of shows in which he conducts a Séance and then at the end of the show reveals how he faked it with mind tricks. Nonetheless, as this thread shows, people are still prepared to believe in this shit.

[Anne Lauren]

What does a car accident have to do with a guardian angel? Where was the angel when the car slid? Why do you pick and chose what are gifts and blessings, and what are curses and tests? If it makes you happy, it's guardian angel, it's luck. If not, it's a test? It seems so arbitrarily defined based on personal preference and pleasantness. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. I could be confused, or oversimplifying it.

I guess, the whole role of a "guardian angel" comes into play when the results of certian poor choices (or circumstances that someone chose to put themselves in)...didn't end up as bad or life changing for the worse, as they could have been. Like, I could have been forever paralyzed or handicapped for the rest of my life...simply because of a poor decision (I or somebody else) made in my youth. However, I wasn't...I was virtually unharmed.

And, I feel that everything in life is ultimately a test (some more difficult and intense than others). The question is...can you handle it? Do you like it? And if not, what are you gonna do about it?

I know my views about "life" as a whole, seem rather "matter of fact" and a tad bit "hardcore". However, I just really have a "suck it up" kind of mentality, I guess. Maybe a lot of it has to do with the way I was raised...my parents were't very "sensitive" people, I guess. Who knows...

[Matt]

i don't entirely understand the mentality behind these kind of beliefs.

why do people have to feel like they have someone "up there" helping them?
why can't we deal with shit on our own? stand on our own 2 feet?

why would you WANT to talk an angel and have them figure out your problems?
what would you learn from that?
that's a pussy bitch way out....

take care of your own shit.
make your own decisions...and stand by them.
learn from them.
become wiser.

I agree. It's having a way out. you fuck up, and you don't blame yourself, it was your angel's fault. It's not taking responsibility for your own actions. I'd say more but I'm really distracted by "The MC Hammer Story".

[Anne Lauren]

what's important is.......

did you pay for the guys yard damage? hello?

Heeell...NO!

The man's yard didn't even have a scratch on it...the exact same as before, except for the, now, totaled car the was in the front of it. However, if we were going any faster and tumbled much further...we would have ended up in the guy's livingroom.

I drove by there, not to long ago, and I noticed they now have a guard rail put up.

[cosmo105]

Christopher Lloyd keeps bugging me about some baseball team, if that's what you mean.

[Qdrop]

Heeell...NO!

The man's yard didn't even have a scratch on it...the exact same as before, except for the, now, totaled car the was in the front of it. i guess the yard had a guardian angel.

However, if we were going any faster and tumbled much further...we would have ended up in the guy's livingroom. that guy had one too, i guess.

[Anne Lauren]

i guess the yard had a guardian angel.

that guy had one too, i guess.

No...not really. The guy could have gotten a new livingroom out of the whole deal.

[Qdrop]

No...not really. The guy could have gotten a new livingroom out of the whole deal.

see!

angels aren't real.

[Anne Lauren]

see!

angels aren't real.

That...or they just didn't feel like the man needed a new livingroom. (lb)

[Nuzzolese]

I guess, the whole role of a "guardian angel" comes into play when the results of certian poor choices (or circumstances that someone chose to put themselves in)...didn't end up as bad or life changing for the worse, as they could have been. Like, I could have been forever paralyzed or handicapped for the rest of my life...simply because of a poor decision (I or somebody else) made in my youth. However, I wasn't...I was virtually unharmed.

And, I feel that everything in life is ultimately a test (some more difficult and intense than others). The question is...can you handle it? Do you like it? And if not, what are you gonna do about it?

I know my views about "life" as a whole, seem rather "matter of fact" and a tad bit "hardcore". However, I just really have a "suck it up" kind of mentality, I guess. Maybe a lot of it has to do with the way I was raised...my parents were't very "sensitive" people, I guess. Who knows...

But why attribute not-so-bad outcomes to a guardian angel? And how do you even determine that things could have been worse or not worse? Things could have been better, things could have been worse. You learned a lesson from that experience but do you think you could have learned an even bigger lesson if you had been hurt? Why would your guardian angel deny you the opportunity to learn that lesson? Oh, I guess these are not questions for you to answer but for your angel to know?

I agree with the thought that everything in life is a chance to learn something, or could be seen as a test. But why jump to what I see as a conclusion that these are all intentional tests administered by a higher power, for you to learn something specific? What do you think is implausible about a set of events happening, neither absolutely good nor bad, from which you can draw your own lessons all by yourself, as a living thing being hurled through space, abandonded by spirits and angels, left to fend for yourself and learn on your own?

More repulsive than denying responsibility, which Matt suggested, I think it denies credit to yourself and limits you by suggesting that you have no further capacities to extend your questioning of what happens to you beyond a final conclusion that angels and God are manipulating you towards a single purpose.

Some people believe the stars and their date of birth manipulate them and determine what happens to them. Why is faith the full reach of human capacity for understanding? Maybe the security and peace that people feel when having faith in God is simply the liberty of feeling free of responsibility, of giving up.

[Nuzzolese]

That...or they just didn't feel like the man needed a new livingroom. (lb)

No matter what had happened, you could say that it was God's intention for a greater good.

[Qdrop]

Maybe the security and peace that people feel when having faith in God is simply the liberty of feeling free of responsibility, of giving up.
(lb)

[Qdrop]

No matter what had happened, you could say that it was God's intention for a greater good.

pshhh...

who is he to decide?

[Anne Lauren]

No matter what had happened, you could say that it was God's intention for a greater good.

Well, not necessarily for a greater good...that's just the way it turned out, for whatever reason. However, the choice was mine. God didn't put me in that situation...I did.

[zorra_chiflada]

yeah, i'm a big giant non-believer

[kaiser soze]

Is this the same as "Spirit Guides" ?

[Anne Lauren]

But why attribute not-so-bad outcomes to a guardian angel? And how do you even determine that things could have been worse or not worse? Things could have been better, things could have been worse. You learned a lesson from that experience but do you think you could have learned an even bigger lesson if you had been hurt? Why would your guardian angel deny you the opportunity to learn that lesson? Oh, I guess these are not questions for you to answer but for your angel to know?

I agree with the thought that everything in life is a chance to learn something, or could be seen as a test. But why jump to what I see as a conclusion that these are all intentional tests administered by a higher power, for you to learn something specific? What do you think is implausible about a set of events happening, neither absolutely good nor bad, from which you can draw your own lessons all by yourself, as a living thing being hurled through space, abandonded by spirits and angels, left to fend for yourself and learn on your own?

More repulsive than denying responsibility, which Matt suggested, I think it denies credit to yourself and limits you by suggesting that you have no further capacities to extend your questioning of what happens to you beyond a final conclusion that angels and God are manipulating you towards a single purpose.

Some people believe the stars and their date of birth manipulate them and determine what happens to them. Why is faith the full reach of human capacity for understanding? Maybe the security and peace that people feel when having faith in God is simply the liberty of feeling free of responsibility, of giving up.

All great questions. I aggree with you...I don't know. What are the answers?

I, personally, and I can't speak for others...am all about "choices" and free-will. Every positive and negative aspects I have in my "life"...are there because of me and the choices I made. God had nothing to do with it.

Faith and religion, in general, represent "purpose"...I mean, what's the point behind all this craziness? I mean, why bother? You're hoplessly depressed...just fuckin' kill yourself. I mean, go ahead and end it...why not? It doesn't matter anyway. Why not smoke, snort a bunch of coke, drink liquor everynight, and eat greasy french fries and BigMacs all the time? Cause you want to prolong your life and make it more reproductive? Why? All those things above sound more enjoyable to me.

I guess, for me, faith/religion/"God" make me respect and appreciate "life" (good and the bad..every aspect of it)...and how can I appreciate something with no purpose?

[Nuzzolese]

So you accept it because it gives you purpose and it tells you what's good and what's bad, gives you guidelines by which to live? That makes it a system of ethics and values, right? Where does the purpose come in? It seems like you live for a certain purpose, just so you can have a purpose, not because you believe this purpose is truth.

[Anne Lauren]

So you accept it because it gives you purpose and it tells you what's good and what's bad, gives you guidelines by which to live? That makes it a system of ethics and values, right? Where does the purpose come in? It seems like you live for a certain purpose, just so you can have a purpose, not because you believe this purpose is truth.

I wreckin'...who knows? It does the trick for me...so I guess that's all that really matters, right?

Seriously, I'm genuinely curious...what's your thing? Why do you even bother with it all? What's your "truth"? And why even bother finding it?

p.s.- (random sidenote)...Damn, my fucking head hurts! I have a headache from hell...literally, I think. Anyway...

[Nuzzolese]

I wreckin'...who knows? It does the trick for me...so I guess that's all that really matters, right?

Seriously, I'm genuinely curious...what's your thing? Why do you even bother with it all? What's your "truth"? And why even bother finding it?

p.s.- (random sidenote)...Damn, my fucking head hurts! I have a headache from hell...literally, I think. Anyway...

No, I don't think that's all that matters for me. If I don't believe it to be true, then I can't just pick a purpose for living off the racks and use it. My "thing" is wondering what the truth is I guess. That sounds so pretentious though. My thing is L.I.V.I.N.

[kll]

basically, it is said that everyone has an angel, a guardian angel. this angel can help you figure things out and the such.


i woke up in the middle of the night when i was little and saw mine standing at the foot of the bed where i was sleeping. i caught it offguard and it disappeared.

[Monsieur Decuts]

I see angels everywhere. I've interacted with them, and they knew that I knew that they were angels, but we just never acknolwedged it to each other.

They have pushed me along the path that is meant for me, and without them I would have either drowned, died of spinal injuries, been killed by a car jeez this list could go on and on and on. AND i would not have had the positive impact on others that I know I was put here to give. Those people's lives would not have been changed by me if mr and mrs angel didn't smoosh me into the other persons path.

I love those little bastards, and they love me.

[cosmo105]

i woke up in the middle of the night when i was little and saw mine standing at the foot of the bed where i was sleeping. i caught it offguard and it disappeared.
that was me. i guess i was whacking my dick against your bed too loudly.

[kll]

that was me. i guess i was whacking my dick against your bed too loudly.

and to think mickill calls mute 'mervert'

mervert

[cookiepuss]

I've begun having a bit of a spiritul crisis, so I'm not sure what I beleive any more. I'm not sure there are unseen spirits or angles guiding or protecting us...but i do beleive that sometimes people take on the role. Have you ever had a complete stranger come along at just the right time and with the utmost kindness, help you? I've had it happen several times and at least at those moments those people were angels.

[Anne Lauren]

I've begun having a bit of a spiritul crisis, so I'm not sure what I beleive any more. I'm not sure there are unseen spirits or angles guiding or protecting us...but i do beleive that sometimes people take on the role. Have you ever had a complete stranger come along at just the right time and with the utmost kindness, help you? I've had it happen several times and at least at those moments those people were angels.

Even though she wasn't a stranger...my aunt and I, ironically, became extremely close during a fairly recently very dark time in my life. I was so lost and confused and really doubted everything that I beleived and was taught about life.

It's rather ironic because growing up, she always got on my nerves. She, in my eyes, was this judgemental critical Christian fanatic that always had to be so damn dramatic about everything...she just couldn't blend in and let things flow. Well, I don't remember initially how it began...but, she kinda started to take on that angel, "motherly" role in my life. While I was back in school getting my master's...I would stop by and visit her in between classes all the time. She lived near campus. She would just listen to me, not interrupt or judge...just give reassurance and advice. We're still really close too...and to my amazement, she's actually cool as shit.

[mikizee]

ive seen and experienced enough crazy shit to know without a doubt that ghosts and spirits are all around. i havent made my mind up about angels tho.

a couple of years after my grandmother (on my mothers side) died, i had a nasty car accident. i slammed my little red mini into the side of a truck, and i was doing over 65km/h. when u hit something that solid in a little mini at that speed, its a massive impact. amazingly, i walked away with only a tiny scratch on my wrist from broken glass. everyone who saw the wreck were astounded i didnt die.

about six months ago my mum went to a medium, who was from perth. he said, 'your son, did he have a big car accident a few years ago? shes showing me a red car'. my mum said yes, and he said, 'well your mother is claiming responsibilty for this one. she stepped in and saved him, cos it wasnt his time'.

i was blown away when i found out this, but suddenly everything made sense.

[ChrisLove]

ive seen and experienced enough crazy shit to know without a doubt that ghosts and spirits are all around. i havent made my mind up about angels tho.

a couple of years after my grandmother (on my mothers side) died, i had a nasty car accident. i slammed my little red mini into the side of a truck, and i was doing over 65km/h. when u hit something that solid in a little mini at that speed, its a massive impact. amazingly, i walked away with only a tiny scratch on my wrist from broken glass. everyone who saw the wreck were astounded i didnt die.

about six months ago my mum went to a medium, who was from perth. he said, 'your son, did he have a big car accident a few years ago? shes showing me a red car'. my mum said yes, and he said, 'well your mother is claiming responsibilty for this one. she stepped in and saved him, cos it wasnt his time'.

i was blown away when i found out this, but suddenly everything made sense.

Why didnt she use her magic powers to stop the car crash in the first place? It surely would have been easier to get you to slow down than to manipulate all the forces in a car crash to ensure that your injuries were limited to a scratch. Shame she didnt stop the scratch too.

I assume you have more than this incident on which to base your beliefs? To an external observer it just looks like a combination of luck and a decent (if fairly explanable) piece of conwork by the medium. Im not saying that it is Im just saying thats how it looks.

[Pres Zount]

Everybody that believes in angels is a fucking idiot.

[cookiepuss]

ive seen and experienced enough crazy shit to know without a doubt that ghosts and spirits are all around. i havent made my mind up about angels tho.

a couple of years after my grandmother (on my mothers side) died, i had a nasty car accident. i slammed my little red mini into the side of a truck, and i was doing over 65km/h. when u hit something that solid in a little mini at that speed, its a massive impact. amazingly, i walked away with only a tiny scratch on my wrist from broken glass. everyone who saw the wreck were astounded i didnt die.

about six months ago my mum went to a medium, who was from perth. he said, 'your son, did he have a big car accident a few years ago? shes showing me a red car'. my mum said yes, and he said, 'well your mother is claiming responsibilty for this one. she stepped in and saved him, cos it wasnt his time'.

i was blown away when i found out this, but suddenly everything made sense.

I don't doubt that ghost s are real either. I saw/felt my fathers ghost and regardless of what anyone says that was a real expereince for me. My dad had a heart attack at home and passed. for about thrity days after his passing both my mother and I had expereinces with his spirit int he house where he passed. Strange vibrations, things being moved, my dog getting up in the middle to the night to play ball with NO ONE, the bed sinking under the weight of no one. the sheets being pulled away from my face while crying in bed when no one was in the room. actually seeing his spector. that kinda stuff. gradually the incidents got less and less frequent until they stopped althogether aproximately 30-40 days after his passing. Tibetan buddhist beleive that the spirt stays on earth aproximately 30 days after death before moving on the the next spiritual plain. and they aren't the only religion to make similar enuendos about spirits sticking around after death... Jesus's reserection was 30 days after his death. Anyway, I have no doubt my father moved on. I've had no spiritual contact with him since aside from the occasional dream. I don't beleive he has any control over my life, maybe he watches over me, but mainly I just feel his absence. My mother use to almost "pray" to him and I could never understand why..just because he had entered the spiritual world was no indication that he had magical powers or influence over what happens to us now. :(

[monkey]

kll and mikizee... those are lovely stories.

my family believes that my grandmother helped lots of things happen right after she died, including the chain of events that led my family's exodus from chile. dont doubt it. i had a massive car accident in my jeep. in crazy traffic, i was going 70+mph and i hit the highway divide... my car shouldve been totalled, i shouldve had limbs broken, or at least hit another car. and a muslim man helped me, actually. he helped me calm down, he helped me get my car out of the highway. but i think something (an angel? a spirit?) put that man there to help me.

im very much in the midst of a spiritual crisis. this is quite easy to believe in, yet the scientist in me really hates it. my mom and my dad are all into this. they try to teach me in this way. this is basically one of the few ways theyve attempted to include their 'religious beliefs' into their raising me.

when i was little, i thought floaters were angels and i could see angels when i closed my eyes. i talked to my floaters.
:o

[fucktopgirl]

I do believe that we have some kind of guide or gardien angels that can help us in time of crisis,guide us somehow.They can manifest as a sign of luck or can be interpret as the fact that life sometime is well organised .I think thta it will depend on a person perceptions and beliefs.Its all about beliefs!


Couples years ago,i had a car accident,wearing no seat belt,i coud have been destroy but i survive with just scrachts.THe day of my accident was the day my bf father died(couple years ago).I dunno if i had help but that what a pretty strange occurence/coincidence.

[DIGI]

I plan on meeting my spirit guide next week. The only thing that sucks is that I have to take a few days off of work in order to do so. I mapquested it and it seems it will take a while to get there. I have to take a golden unicorn approximately 254.7 miles on the rainbow trail leading to the cotton candy cloud which will then take me to the top of the diamond mountain range where I will meet Susan. That's her name. She seems real nice from the voicemail she left me.

[roosta]

Everybody that believes in angels is a fucking idiot.

what a clever thing to say