people with dissabilities are not things u critisize in order to feel better about u!

[vickista]

at skool theres a new girl who has a disibility and i was tlking with someother girls in her class and they were all making fun of her! its not her fault, and just because she isnt like us doesnt mean we have to make it harder for her! it pisses me off the way people have no regards for the feelings of anyone but themselves!

[roosta]

..too........many.........jokes..........don't.... .know......where........to....begin.......

[vickista]

it maybe funny to u, but she has no friends or nething!

[roosta]

............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Notorious LOL]

so make friends with her and shut up.

[paulb]

im diabetic, does that count as a dissability?

[vickista]

so make friends with her and shut up.


but im not in her class i hardly see her

[Medellia]

so make friends with her and shut up.
Right, because "should I go do laundry" and "Emilio Estevez!" were such stella, intellectually stimulating, thought provoking threads.

Okay, the Emilio one was, but still. Sure her typing can be somewhat irritating and difficult to read sometimes, but Jesus, at least she's trying to have a real conversation. There are a lot of thirteen year olds on here that you really can't say the same of.

[The Notorious LOL]

All my threads are platinum.

[roosta]

Emilio Estevez was a classic

[ms.peachy]

I think it's very kind of you to be concerned about this girl. I am willing to bet there are quite a few other girls at your school who think like you do, but are afraid to speak up because they are afraid of being taunted themselves. Sadly this kind of bullying happens pretty much everywhere. If you're feeling courageous, why not ask her to join you and one or two of your friends some Saturday for lunch or a film or something? I know you said whe's not in your classes but surely if you see her around before or after school you could say something to her like "Hi, I noticed you're new here, I'm Vicki, where'd you move from?" and strike up a conversation.

[vickista]

I think it's very kind of you to be concerned about this girl. I am willing to bet there are quite a few other girls at your school who think like you do, but are afraid to speak up because they are afraid of being taunted themselves. Sadly this kind of bullying happens pretty much everywhere. If you're feeling courageous, why not ask her to join you and one or two of your friends some Saturday for lunch or a film or something? I know you said whe's not in your classes but surely if you see her around before or after school you could say something to her like "Hi, I noticed you're new here, I'm Vicki, where'd you move from?" and strike up a conversation.


if i ever see her during lunch or in the corodoors ill say hi, and invite her over to hang out with me and my mates, but like u can tell she wants frends like that she can hang out with more of the time.

[ms.peachy]

if i ever see her during lunch or in the corodoors ill say hi, and invite her over to hang out with me and my mates, but like u can tell she wants frends like that she can hang out with more of the time.
I'm sure that's probably true. But, you've got to start somewhere, and maybe if you and your friends make a little effort to include her, it will make her more comfortable and give her a little bit more confidence to make more friends with the girls in her class. Poor thing, she must feel terribly lonely! I think if you reach out to her, it might mean more than you know.

[vickista]

I'm sure that's probably true. But, you've got to start somewhere, and maybe if you and your friends make a little effort to include her, it will make her more comfortable and give her a little bit more confidence to make more friends with the girls in her class. Poor thing, she must feel terribly lonely! I think if you reach out to her, it might mean more than you know.


ill do ma best, my friends rnt really the judgemental type so i think we can make her feel welcome, i mean shes really nice, if u just talk to her, her class mates should relise that eventually, in the mean time we can try to help her out wen eva we can.

[zorra_chiflada]

can i ask, how is she disabled? i'm not trying to be rude or anything, i'm just interested.

[vickista]

can i ask, how is she disabled? i'm not trying to be rude or anything, i'm just interested.


well i dont exactly no, i didnt think it was a good idea to ask, but its sumthing with her brain coz shes in a wheel chair and she can sumtimes b a little slower than the rest of us.

[zorra_chiflada]

well i dont exactly no, i didnt think it was a good idea to ask, but its sumthing with her brain coz shes in a wheel chair and she can sumtimes b a little slower than the rest of us.

mentally slower, or physically slower? if it is only a physical problem, she probably has cerebal palsy.

[vickista]

mentally slower, or physically slower? if it is only a physical problem, she probably has cerebal palsy.
it could be cerebal palsy, coz its not thinking its more reacting that shes slow at, it that makes sense :confused:

[Medellia]

Vicki, when you do talk to her try not to be condescending. Just act like you would around anyone else. I know you wouldn't purposely try to make her feel bad, but sometimes people tend to treat the disabled like babies without thinking. I think she'd appreciate treating her like everyone else almost as much as trying to befriend her.


And yes, the Emilio thread was a slice of fried gold.

[vickista]

Vicki, when you do talk to her try not to be condescending. Just act like you would around anyone else. I know you wouldn't purposely try to make her feel bad, but sometimes people tend to treat the disabled like babies without thinking. I think she'd appreciate treating her like everyone else almost as much as trying to befriend her.


And yes, the Emilio thread was a slice of fried gold.



i mean i probly do treat her slightly differently to my other friends without realising but i dont think i treat her too "childishly"(i dont think that made sense but oh well) but yeah i see how that can make things worse.


"And yes, the Emilio thread was a slice of fried gold." :D (y) thats going in my sig!

[ms.peachy]

ill do ma best, my friends rnt really the judgemental type so i think we can make her feel welcome, i mean shes really nice, if u just talk to her, her class mates should relise that eventually, in the mean time we can try to help her out wen eva we can.

I think that's the most anyone could ask of you :)

When my sister was a little younger than you are now, I think it was her 11th birthday, she had a sleepover party and one of the girls she invited (I think her name was Danielle) had been in and out of the hospital for years because she had a brain tumour. Her family had only moved to our town about 8 months earlier (we were not far from a university hospital that had a specialist team) and so she hadn't had a lot of time to make friends, considering how often she missed classes and what not. Plus Danielle looked very different - the tumour had inhibited her growth, so looked much younger than other girls her age, and her head had to be shaved often, so she wore a wig. Although I don't know that she was ever 'taunted' overtly at school, certainly she must have felt at times that she was being stared at or whispered about.

Her parents were very very nervous about letting her sleep over (other than in the hospital, she'd never been away from them for a night) and were on the phone with my mom 'checking' like every 15 minutes, but all of the girls had a great time at the party. The next day when the mom came to pick Danielle up and saw how happy she was and heard what all they'd done - the usual stuff like watch a film, do eachother's nails, have a dance contest, etc - she burst into tears and hugged my mom and my sister and thanked them "for making her baby feel like a normal girl". It sounds like so little, but it meant so much.

Sadly, Danielle went back into hospital a few months later and died about six months after the party. But her parents wrote my mom and my sister a really lovely letter about two months after that thanking them again for including her at the party (and my sister and a few other girls visited her in the hospital) and how a few days before she died, Danielle had told them that she was "really lucky to have made real friends who treated her like one of the gang and not like a sick person."

Obviously it's not likely that the girl you're talking about has a condition anywhere near as serious as this, but I'm just saying, you never know how much one little nice thing you do can mean to someone who is feeling different or lonely or unwanted or whatever, you know?

[Medellia]

i mean i probly do treat her slightly differently to my other friends without realising but i dont think i treat her too "childishly"(i dont think that made sense but oh well) but yeah i see how that can make things worse.
I'm sure you'll do fine.
"And yes, the Emilio thread was a slice of fried gold." :D (y) thats going in my sig!
Heheh, wish I could take credit for the "fried gold" thing. I got it from Shaun of the Dead.

[Pres Zount]

Don't worry too much about what other people think at school. Especially if they are popular. We had this group of popular people at my school called "teachers" and I gave em hell and felt better for it.

[vickista]

I think that's the most anyone could ask of you :)

When my sister was a little younger than you are now, I think it was her 11th birthday, she had a sleepover party and one of the girls she invited (I think her name was Danielle) had been in and out of the hospital for years because she had a brain tumour. Her family had only moved to our town about 8 months earlier (we were not far from a university hospital that had a specialist team) and so she hadn't had a lot of time to make friends, considering how often she missed classes and what not. Plus Danielle looked very different - the tumour had inhibited her growth, so looked much younger than other girls her age, and her head had to be shaved often, so she wore a wig. Although I don't know that she was ever 'taunted' overtly at school, certainly she must have felt at times that she was being stared at or whispered about.

Her parents were very very nervous about letting her sleep over (other than in the hospital, she'd never been away from them for a night) and were on the phone with my mom 'checking' like every 15 minutes, but all of the girls had a great time at the party. The next day when the mom came to pick Danielle up and saw how happy she was and heard what all they'd done - the usual stuff like watch a film, do eachother's nails, have a dance contest, etc - she burst into tears and hugged my mom and my sister and thanked them "for making her baby feel like a normal girl". It sounds like so little, but it meant so much.

Sadly, Danielle went back into hospital a few months later and died about six months after the party. But her parents wrote my mom and my sister a really lovely letter about two months after that thanking them again for including her at the party (and my sister and a few other girls visited her in the hospital) and how a few days before she died, Danielle had told them that she was "really lucky to have made real friends who treated her like one of the gang and not like a sick person."

Obviously it's not likely that the girl you're talking about has a condition anywhere near as serious as this, but I'm just saying, you never know how much one little nice thing you do can mean to someone who is feeling different or lonely or unwanted or whatever, you know?


wow, that was really nice of ur sister and her friends.

well im sure we can do something however small so she can have real proper friends, like danielle.

[Medellia]

Sadly, Danielle went back into hospital a few months later and died about six months after the party. But her parents wrote my mom and my sister a really lovely letter about two months after that thanking them again for including her at the party (and my sister and a few other girls visited her in the hospital) and how a few days before she died, Danielle had told them that she was "really lucky to have made real friends who treated her like one of the gang and not like a sick person."
Awww, peachy that story is so beautiful and sad. It's wonderful how your mom and sister made her feel so happy and normal. I'm embarassed to admit it made me cry a little. :o

[vickista]

Don't worry too much about what other people think at school. Especially if they are popular. We had this group of popular people at my school called "teachers" and I gave em hell and felt better for it.

well im proud to say im giving then more hell then they can handle!
but yeah nah FUCK the popular ppl ther all way too superficial, they dont know what it means to be a "good person" coz they spend so much time bitching and backstabbing.

[ms.peachy]

Awww, peachy that story is so beautiful and sad. It's wonderful how your mom and sister made her feel so happy and normal. I'm embarassed to admit it made me cry a little. :o
LOL I know, it's a bit After-School-Special isn't it, but a completely true story. I think it humbled all of us in the family a little bit in some way. I was already off to university at the time, but I was back for the weekend for her birthday and I remember then my mom telling me later on the phone, "Oh, do you remember that little girl Danielle that was at M's party, the one who had the brain tumour? She'd been back in the hospital for a while and she died last week" and I just remember thinking how terribly unfair life is, she was just this nice kid who liked making beaded bracelets and danicng with her friends to New Kids On the Block (hey, she was 10, and it was what there was at the time, OK?).

[Medellia]

LOL I know, it's a bit After-School-Special isn't it, but a completely true story. I think it humbled all of us in the family a little bit in some way. I was already off to university at the time, but I was back for the weekend for her birthday and I remember then my mom telling me later on the phone, "Oh, do you remember that little girl Danielle that was at M's party, the one who had the brain tumour? She'd been back in the hospital for a while and she died last week" and I just remember thinking how terribly unfair life is, she was just this nice kid who liked making beaded bracelets and danicng with her friends to New Kids On the Block (hey, she was 10, and it was what there was at the time, OK?).
Hehehe, it is a little bit Hallmark-esque. Still a lovely story though. And don't feel too bad about the New Kids thing. That was my first concert.
















And I still have all the dolls. :o

[enree erzweglle]

at skool theres a new girl who has a disibility and i was tlking with someother girls in her class and they were all making fun of her! its not her fault, and just because she isnt like us doesnt mean we have to make it harder for her! it pisses me off the way people have no regards for the feelings of anyone but themselves!^^^ says a lot about your character, vickista. That's so great.

Sometimes it's that people don't know how to be or act with someone who is different so they taunt or exclude--it elevates them (makes them feel superior) but they maybe don't realize how it does just the opposite.

How were people like that raised, I always wonder. What is it about them or their upbringing, their home life that brings out that kind of bullying behavior and then nurtures it.

For your friend at school, I would reach out to her and offer her a smile or a bit of conversation. The insensitive people will probably extend their rudeness to you if you do that because they might not be able to fathom an act of kindness like that, but I would do it anyway.

By the way, that was the sweetest story, ms.peachy.