Isaac Hayes quits "Chef" on South Park [Archive]

DandyFop

03-13-2006, 04:23 PM

NEW YORK -
Isaac Hayes has quit "South Park," where he voices Chef, saying he can no longer stomach its take on religion.

Hayes, who has played the ladies' man/school cook in the animated Comedy Central satire since 1997, said in a statement Monday that he feels a line has been crossed.

"There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins," the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.

"Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored," he continued. "As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices."

"South Park" co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he's cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians."

Last November, "South Park" targeted the Church of Scientology and its celebrity followers, including actors
Tom Cruise and
John Travolta, in a top-rated episode called "Trapped in the Closet." In the episode, Stan, one of the show's four mischievous fourth graders, is hailed as a reluctant savior by Scientology leaders, while a cartoon Cruise locks himself in a closet and won't come out.

Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin."

cosmo105

03-13-2006, 04:25 PM

about time. i was wondering when he was going to say something about that episode. ahh, scientologists.

Freebasser

03-13-2006, 04:25 PM

Yeah, I heard a month or so ago that he was angry about the scientology episode and was considering his options.

It's not as if Matt and Trey don't rip the piss out of every other thing going though.

cosmo105

03-13-2006, 04:27 PM

that episode is especially hilaroius to me and steger, because we know that's unfortunately what scientology is really all about. if only people know just how insane it really is.

Guy Incognito

03-13-2006, 04:27 PM

No doubt those two will do more about scientology now and probably have a right go at isaac hayes in some way - they seem to take stuff like this that happens to them and make summat funny out of it.

Freebasser

03-13-2006, 04:28 PM

"Oh my god, like, come out of the closet. Oh my god"

Guy Incognito

03-13-2006, 04:29 PM

that episode is especially hilaroius to me and steger, because we know that's unfortunately what scientology is really all about. if only people know just how insane it really is.

I dont know too much about it but I dont think i want to - the main thing i read is that a woman isnt aloud to have drugs during labour and isnt allowed to make a noise either - thats just fuckin twisted if you ask me.

cosmo105

03-13-2006, 04:31 PM

you have nooooo idea.

Freebasser

03-13-2006, 04:32 PM

"ohmygod"

roosta

03-13-2006, 04:34 PM

Extra Cheese

03-13-2006, 04:35 PM

it cant be worse than islam

roosta

03-13-2006, 04:35 PM

islam's cool

cosmo105

03-13-2006, 04:35 PM

do you know something we dont?
he works for a company that's founded by them, and run on their management "philosophy." seriously, he knows the craziest secrets. it's a cult.

ohmygod.

roosta

03-13-2006, 04:40 PM

he works for a company that's founded by them, and run on their management "philosophy." seriously, he knows the craziest secrets. it's a cult.

ohmygod.

i read all them secrets on this website. seems pretty reasonable to me. i liked the bit about all the souls being bombed on the earth and the aliens.

i might subscribe to their news letter.

DandyFop

03-13-2006, 04:43 PM

I love what Trey says at the end of the article. Those guys never fail to impress me.

Planetary

03-13-2006, 05:19 PM

beck is a scientologist too, apparently

cosmo105

03-13-2006, 05:20 PM

he was born into it. sooo last year, guys

zorra_chiflada

03-13-2006, 05:20 PM

it cant be worse than islam

uh, well at least islam is a real religion, and not some cult started in order to dodge tax.

Planetary

03-13-2006, 05:27 PM

he was born into it. sooo last year, guys

yeah, i read that. its a shame...

roosta

03-13-2006, 05:37 PM

he was born into it. sooo last year, guys

he still is one tho

Extra Cheese

03-13-2006, 06:07 PM

uh, well at least islam is a real religion

that makes it even worse.

Lindsey_1535

03-13-2006, 06:43 PM

marrpp the sister voice changed to it made me sad

King PSYZ

03-13-2006, 06:46 PM

I actually lost a lot of respect for Issac with this, lame man, lame.

kleptomaniac

03-13-2006, 06:56 PM

noooo not true! :eek:

well...that sucks. south park isn't south park without chef and his deeeep
chocolately voice :o and his chocolate salty balls as well?

tracky

03-13-2006, 06:57 PM

Chef barely makes appearances in episodes now anyway. Back in the day he ruled the show with his songs, but now I don't think I'd even notice him missing. So whatever, go have a dummy spit chef :rolleyes:

Jmoney77

03-13-2006, 07:02 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Tzar

03-13-2006, 07:16 PM

i have the same birthday as isaac hayes.

fuck scientology though.

Freebasser

03-13-2006, 08:25 PM

marrpp the sister voice changed to it made me sad

That's because the woman who did most of the female voices killed herself.

kleptomaniac

03-13-2006, 08:28 PM

That's because the woman who did most of the female voices killed herself.

nobody knew about her depression, is what i've read :(

Mr. Boomin'Granny

03-14-2006, 01:02 AM

all scientologists play the same game. When anyone criticizes them they always play the "religious intolerance and bigotry" card.

Hubbard, the guy who "invented" scientology, said about christ that "The man on the Cross, there was no Christ (http://www.lermanet.com/cos/nochrist.wav)." Right there he denounces a millenia of religion. Being sort of raised as a southern baptist, that was needless to say, very disheartning.

the whole paragraph
"Anyway, Everyman is then shown to have been crucified so don't think that it's an accident that this crucifixion, they found out that this applied. Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 600 BC, found some pieces of R6, and I don't know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity. The man on the Cross. There was no Christ. But the man on the cross is shown as Everyman. So of course each person seeing a crucified man, has an immediate feeling of sympathy for this man. Therefore you get many PCs who says they are Christ. Now, there's two reasons for that, one is the Roman Empire was prone to crucify people, so a person can have been crucified, but in R6 he is shown as crucified." - L. Ron Hubbard

R6 is the time when the thetans where watchin a movie about "false data" about the world. Big bang, dinosaurs, plate tetonics, and most importantly, about every world religion.

Let me give you some info on this time, some of you might have seen that south park episode and it is really freakin true. Well, what they believe to be true. Hubbard said it happened 75 million years ago, and that one of the volocanoes was Hawaii, which sad to say wasn't even around at that time.

Plus the amount of force to blow up that many frozen "aliens" is unbelievable. Plus wouldn't there be at least some records of a huge nuclear event? Some isotopes somewhere in the soil and some alien bones around the volcanoes?

$cientologists believe his written words to be THE word. THE truth and THE way. He contradicts himself many times in his writing and normally just would just pull shit out of his head or plagarise some other philiosopher and call it his.

Here are some examples of the BS.

Thes are actual hubbard spoken or written quotes:

"Taxes exist only to destroy business. Be impudent. Get rich and to
hell with them. Governments are just a reactive bank we have to live
with for a while."

"In short, a staff member can get away with murder so long as his
statistic is up, and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down. To do
otherwise is to permit some suppressive person to simply Ethics chit
every producer in the org out of existence."

-HCOPL, Sept. 1, 1965, Ethics Protection, by L. Ron Hubbard.
(i've read this policy letter)

A capitalist government is one living off of the intrerest of loans. <-- that was a paraphrase from something that I MYSELF have physically read.

"It doesn't give me displeasure to hear of a virgin being raped. The
lot of women is to be fornicated." -From Hubbard's personal archive of reflections and writings, read
into the record in Scientology v. Armstrong, Los Angeles Superior
Court, Case No. C 420153 in 1984.

And Hubbard himself wanted to be satan or at least have the "moonchild" or the antichrist.

from an interview with his son:
"Scientology® and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology® is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology® --- and it is probably the only part of Scientology® that really works"

There has been speculation that "thetan" is really "satan" said with a lisp. if this is coincedental, who knows.

All i know is that im just trying to keep my job and go with the flow, but i know it is utter bs.

sorry for the long post :/

monkey

03-14-2006, 05:33 AM

yo man, what boomin said, thats really creepy. i got chills reading that. :(

Rancid_Beasties

03-14-2006, 06:20 AM

Why do so many famous people get sucked into this religion? Do they actually believe it or are they just being trendy? I mean nobody can be that gullible

Qdrop

03-14-2006, 08:11 AM

that episode is especially hilaroius to me and steger, because we know that's unfortunately what scientology is really all about. if only people know just how insane it really is.

aliens, right?

they believe aliens came down and inhabited these bodies or some shit..

i've read conflicting reports.

Qdrop

03-14-2006, 08:15 AM

All i know is that im just trying to keep my job and go with the flow, but i know it is utter bs.

sorry for the long post :/

you work for scientilogists?

dang...

Planetary

03-14-2006, 08:16 AM

somthinng like that. jusus was a memory planted into our brains by xenu 75 million years ago.

rob20

03-14-2006, 08:36 AM

maybe they'll hire dave chappelle in his place

cosmo105

03-14-2006, 12:52 PM

Why do so many famous people get sucked into this religion? Do they actually believe it or are they just being trendy? I mean nobody can be that gullible
it's not about trends at all. Scientology is appealing to them because as celebrities they get super high status in the church and are basically sheltered from the outside world and all negative press about them...they live in a bubble where they're always the biggest stars and the most powerful people.

the first few months of training for steger were so hard on both of us. he worked 12 hour days :( but at least we had hilarious stories. he now knows how to express abstract concepts in clay and confront pencils. and they have this whole other language...hubbardspeak is pretty hilarious.

i'm glad that they're getting so much bad press lately. it's time that people saw this "church" for what it really is. i can't help myself when i see them out in public places giving out "stress tests." i always end up yelling "FRAUDS!" and then running because i'm a wuss.

they prey on addicts and ex-cons and the elderly...the lonely, basically. and at first they seem to genuinely want to help you and change your life. but then you have to pay more and more for the "readings" and courses and before you know it you've declared bankruptcy.

the most fucked-up thing, in my opinion, is their view on illness. any ailment is caused by someone in your life being a negative influence. so they frown upon sick days. the greatest was when his friend caught the flu and couldn't think of anything to say for it, so he said "my grandma bought a new fridge and it's really stressing me out." and they bought it.

and i can't leave out the part about communicating with plants. that's something that you have to do when you get into the higher levels of scientology...go to a place with lots of plants (zoo, arboretum, etc.) and communicate your intention to them. you can't leave until you feel they've responded.

there's a really in-depth article in a recent rolling stone. it's pretty informative, if anyone's curious.

roosta

03-14-2006, 12:59 PM

you guys should leave scientologists alone. damn bullies.

Bob

03-14-2006, 01:04 PM

it's not about trends at all. Scientology is appealing to them because as celebrities they get super high status in the church and are basically sheltered from the outside world and all negative press about them...they live in a bubble where they're always the biggest stars and the most powerful people.

the first few months of training for steger were so hard on both of us. he worked 12 hour days :( but at least we had hilarious stories. he now knows how to express abstract concepts in clay and confront pencils. and they have this whole other language...hubbardspeak is pretty hilarious.

i'm glad that they're getting so much bad press lately. it's time that people saw this "church" for what it really is. i can't help myself when i see them out in public places giving out "stress tests." i always end up yelling "FRAUDS!" and then running because i'm a wuss.

they prey on addicts and ex-cons and the elderly...the lonely, basically. and at first they seem to genuinely want to help you and change your life. but then you have to pay more and more for the "readings" and courses and before you know it you've declared bankruptcy.

the most fucked-up thing, in my opinion, is their view on illness. any ailment is caused by someone in your life being a negative influence. so they frown upon sick days. the greatest was when his friend caught the flu and couldn't think of anything to say for it, so he said "my grandma bought a new fridge and it's really stressing me out." and they bought it.

and i can't leave out the part about communicating with plants. that's something that you have to do when you get into the higher levels of scientology...go to a place with lots of plants (zoo, arboretum, etc.) and communicate your intention to them. you can't leave until you feel they've responded.

there's a really in-depth article in a recent rolling stone. it's pretty informative, if anyone's curious.

scientology would be pretty hilarious if it weren't real. my understanding is that they get most of their lower-lever recruits via brainwashing (and not your "lol, go to church every week" brand of brainwashing that everyone accuses most religions of using, i mean real, honest, break down your soul brainwashing). like that episode of the simpsons with "the leader", it goes something like that. i'm glad to hear that steger resisted it.

do you think his employers monitor what he does on the internet? i hope we don't get him into trouble, that would be lame.

my other understanding about scientology is that the only reason it has any credibility whatsoever is that the "church" is so rich, that they just hire lawyers to sue anyone who speaks out about it. nobody knows because everyone who talks gets sued. did the southpark guys get sued?

burbboi

03-14-2006, 01:06 PM

He's a hypocrite plain and simple.

cosmo105

03-14-2006, 01:08 PM

we don't talk about scientology when he's on his work comp.

i'd say about 70% of the people he works with are scientologists...and they seem just like normal people. but there's always something a little off, that makes me a little uncomfortable. that whole being-outside-of-everyday-society-and-not-in-a-good-way thing. and they really take their religion seriously. if you make fun of it in any way around them, they're deeply offended. you'd think that "common sense" would knock these people out of it...but when your view of reality has been so distorted, or you've been born into this cult, then...?

sure, all religions have some tenets that are difficult to reconcile with reality to some degree. but not to this extent.

alexandra

03-14-2006, 01:39 PM

"I look at those people and I say, 'Bring it. I'm a Scientologist, man. What do you want to know?' I don't mind answering questions."

"Some people, well, if they don't like Scientology, well, then, fuck you. Really. Fuck you. Period."

- Tom Cruise

Qdrop

03-14-2006, 01:41 PM

Qdrop

03-14-2006, 01:47 PM

"I look at those people and I say, 'Bring it. I'm a Scientologist, man. What do you want to know?' I don't mind answering questions."

bullshit, they never answer when the actual beliefs of thier religion are asked to be spelled out.

they never say "yeah we believe in aliens called thetans that came down to earth millions of years ago and shit...they're like, inside of us now...."

cosmo105

03-14-2006, 02:57 PM

oh my god, they're at my school. It's a big day for volunteer organizations and such on campus and i walked by a booth with materials that just seemed a little off to me...sure enough, the books were all by l. ron hubbard. and i hung around for a bit, waiting...finally the tubby awkward dude walked up to me asking if i had time to fill out a survey. before he even finished i yelled NO THANKS and completely ignored him. hahaha. ohhh man. I really want to go print off some fliers and stand right in front of that booth handing them out and yelling about their bullshit cult.

he works for a company that was founded by a scientologist and is run on hubbard's management philosphy (which is total bullshit). he reallly wants a different job but for now it's stable and the pay is good. we went to their company party at the celebrity center! that was so fucking boring.

Bob

03-14-2006, 02:58 PM

tell us more about the hubbard management style, i'm very interested

cosmo105

03-14-2006, 03:18 PM

i swear, i don't know how he keeps his head from asploding from what he tells me. i'd lose it if i had to go through the crap they do to him there.

DandyFop

03-14-2006, 03:19 PM

If Ray Bradbury started a religion I'd be all up on that shit.

Pres Zount

03-14-2006, 03:37 PM

That's what you get for living in California. In Texas, them fuckers get shot.
along with everyone else who isn't a god fearing, christian fundamentalist.

marsdaddy

03-14-2006, 04:18 PM

maybe they'll hire dave chappelle in his placeFuck Dave Chappelle. Prince is the answer! Or James Brown?

cookiepuss

03-14-2006, 04:47 PM

i'd say about 70% of the people he works with are scientologists...and they seem just like normal people. but there's always something a little off, that makes me a little uncomfortable. that whole being-outside-of-everyday-society-and-not-in-a-good-way thing. and they really take their religion seriously. if you make fun of it in any way around them, they're deeply offended. you'd think that "common sense" would knock these people out of it...but when your view of reality has been so distorted, or you've been born into this cult, then...?

sure, all religions have some tenets that are difficult to reconcile with reality to some degree. but not to this extent.

yeah that's the think that gets me, the lack of common sense or critical thinking when it comes to things like this. there's not an once of this stuff that makes sense to me when I read it, so i don't how others relate to it at all. then again there's not a whole lot of common sense or critical thinking hapening in christianity either. If people are too smart they won't listen to the "chruch" so I guess they really won't encourage thinking outside the box.

that said: i really do want to know how to: express abstract concepts in clay and confront pencils. that sound s fun. especially since pencils have a bad attitude and often hurt my feelings. ya.

zippo

03-14-2006, 11:26 PM

that episode is especially hilaroius to me and steger, because we know that's unfortunately what scientology is really all about. if only people know just how insane it really is.

you should encourage your boyfriend to make a thread about the "inside of scientology" since, if my memory serves me right, he works with those people. a Q&A sort of thing...do it, cmon!

Tzar

03-14-2006, 11:31 PM

Fuck religion. Wipe it off the face of the earth. There, I said it.
what the whoop.

you went from the goth we all know/knew...

to this church-loving dude...

and now you say this?

Medellia

03-14-2006, 11:35 PM

If Ray Bradbury started a religion I'd be all up on that shit.
Nah, Douglas Adams. I'd totally worship the number 42 if he had started a cult.

Monsieur Decuts

03-14-2006, 11:45 PM

all scientologists play the same game. When anyone criticizes them they always play the "religious intolerance and bigotry" card.

Hubbard, the guy who "invented" scientology, said about christ that "The man on the Cross, there was no Christ (http://www.lermanet.com/cos/nochrist.wav)." Right there he denounces a millenia of religion. Being sort of raised as a southern baptist, that was needless to say, very disheartning.

the whole paragraph

R6 is the time when the thetans where watchin a movie about "false data" about the world. Big bang, dinosaurs, plate tetonics, and most importantly, about every world religion.

Let me give you some info on this time, some of you might have seen that south park episode and it is really freakin true. Well, what they believe to be true. Hubbard said it happened 75 million years ago, and that one of the volocanoes was Hawaii, which sad to say wasn't even around at that time.

Plus the amount of force to blow up that many frozen "aliens" is unbelievable. Plus wouldn't there be at least some records of a huge nuclear event? Some isotopes somewhere in the soil and some alien bones around the volcanoes?

$cientologists believe his written words to be THE word. THE truth and THE way. He contradicts himself many times in his writing and normally just would just pull shit out of his head or plagarise some other philiosopher and call it his.

Here are some examples of the BS.

Thes are actual hubbard spoken or written quotes:

"Taxes exist only to destroy business. Be impudent. Get rich and to
hell with them. Governments are just a reactive bank we have to live
with for a while."

"In short, a staff member can get away with murder so long as his
statistic is up, and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down. To do
otherwise is to permit some suppressive person to simply Ethics chit
every producer in the org out of existence."

-HCOPL, Sept. 1, 1965, Ethics Protection, by L. Ron Hubbard.
(i've read this policy letter)

A capitalist government is one living off of the intrerest of loans. <-- that was a paraphrase from something that I MYSELF have physically read.

"It doesn't give me displeasure to hear of a virgin being raped. The
lot of women is to be fornicated." -From Hubbard's personal archive of reflections and writings, read
into the record in Scientology v. Armstrong, Los Angeles Superior
Court, Case No. C 420153 in 1984.

And Hubbard himself wanted to be satan or at least have the "moonchild" or the antichrist.

from an interview with his son:
"Scientology® and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology® is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology® --- and it is probably the only part of Scientology® that really works"

There has been speculation that "thetan" is really "satan" said with a lisp. if this is coincedental, who knows.

All i know is that im just trying to keep my job and go with the flow, but i know it is utter bs.

sorry for the long post :/

i don't know you at all, but don't you feel like you're selling out by pandering to this bullcrap on a daily basis for money?

zippo

03-15-2006, 12:00 AM

id kill to go as an undercover journalist into any scientology building. interview them all.

Loppfessor

03-15-2006, 12:27 AM

Wow I thought this thread was going to be totally lame but it does spark some interesting conversation topics. I will say that it does seem like making fun of Christians is totally acceptable (happens on this board all the time) but making fun of other religions is not.

hitmonlee

03-15-2006, 02:53 AM

Why do so many famous people get sucked into this religion? Do they actually believe it or are they just being trendy? I mean nobody can be that gullible

they don't believe any of it
its like a "boys club" kinda thing

edit: i make fun of all religions, but i know more about christianity than others so i make fun of that more

rob20

03-15-2006, 10:45 AM

Fuck Dave Chappelle. Prince is the answer! Or James Brown?
fuck james brown

cosmo105

03-15-2006, 01:01 PM

i don't know you at all, but don't you feel like you're selling out by pandering to this bullcrap on a daily basis for money?
don't think he isn't conflicted by it. he didn't know all this came with the job. fortunately, they legally can't force him to do anything related to the actual "church," so they can't force him to do e-meter tests or anything like that. officially the company's not a part of the church. it just happens to be run by church members, and happens to pour much of its profits into it :/

and come on, it's not like he wouldn't like a different job. that's not exactly easy to find in this market.

i can't say i really agree with or identify with any religion, except maybe those of native americans...because they viewed every part of the universe as separate entities worthy of respect, and religion for them wasn't some compartmentalized aspect of life that you slept through once a week. it was a way of life. and i can respect that. but to be honest, i think that most religion is humanity's way of explaining away things we can't understand/are afraid of. /can of e-worms

Mr. Boomin'Granny

03-15-2006, 11:39 PM

i don't know you at all, but don't you feel like you're selling out by pandering to this bullcrap on a daily basis for money?

I dont work for Scientology. The founder of the company i work for is a scientologist and they use the Hubbard management philosophy, which they say is not based on scientology but in reality is heavily, if not all, based on it.

tell us more about the hubbard management style, i'm very interested

Will do. I'll give a reader's digest version.

First off, any CoS (Church of Scientology), and any company using the management technology (or tech as they call it) relies heavy on stats. Not statistics but basic stats.

This is how they relate to anything they do in business, if you are upstat (good) or downstat(bad).

They also use "Ethics" which i use loosely in my terms, there are 4 basic conditions and they each are based on how you are upstat or down stat.

They are, from bad to best: Non-Existence, Danger, Emergency, Normal, Affluence.

Basically if your stats are good for the week then you do a little write up on it.
It pretty much states that you dont change a thing, ethics are mild, and you keep doing what you were doing.

The fault is that some stats are bs and some stats are not easily controlled by one person. For example, my stat is "web site functionality points" which is basically how much work i do. That is a "bs" stat because every thing i do is weighted differently but that is not stated on my stat. yeah i have different point values for different things, but its not the same. I am not doing the same thing everyday so it varies. What matters is that i get the work done, and done right and on time, not how much i do.

There's another stat in my div that is basically web pages view. Now that is basically not in our control at all. Yeah we can send out tons of emails and promo (not even our area) but that doesnt guarenttee page views. They do not see it that way. Like i said before, common sense fails in these people.

And get this, since my company likes to hire from the church, and not wogs(wogs are non-scientologists) like me, they believe that anyone can learn how to do something by READING about what hubbard said about it. We have lots of incompetent people at my work. Our Head of Accounting, has never taken an accounting class. Doesn't know any shit about accounting in the business world, minus what Hubbard said about it.

I'm not a sell-out because i work for a company that functions by this and i dont really believe in it. What i do is all web-related stuff and only deal with the scientology crap when dealing with administration. It gives me stuff to talk about at lunch with the other wogs.

i might make a Q and A thread about Scientology, if the people want it. And it will be fair and balanced as it should.

cosmo105

03-16-2006, 12:08 AM

^he really is an expert on this stuff, guys.

Calimero jr.

03-16-2006, 03:38 AM

It's just scary how scientologists can bring people to believe all this bullshit and suck them dry (n)
Come on, intergalactic dictator, volcanoes, nuclear bombs and aliens, and all this coming from a science-fiction writer ?? Can't they just smell something is burning ?? Jeeeezzzzz

I remember once in Lugano with a friend, there was a stand in a street, with people selling books, just seeing the covers I knew they were from L.R Hubbard. So one of these people asks my friend if he's interested in improving his life blablabla...so I just stop him and tell my friend that they're scientologists, and this guy becomes very aggressive with me, telling my pal that they teach Dianetics, based on LR Hubbard writings and that has nothing to do with scientology.....yeah, right. Fucking liars.

One of my father's friend lost all his money (quite a lot) after he went into depression and was then approached by his ex-wife who brought him into Scientology....of course it's even easier to suck money from people mentally and emotionally fragile....dirty fuckers. Fortunately he managed to get out of it and recover a normal life (minus his money).

Just stay away from them and hate them with a passion. :mad: :mad:

"Fuck L Ron Hubbard and Fuck all his clones" Tool, Aenema

Bob

03-17-2006, 05:03 PM

haha, read this:

Variety.com posted:

The battle between "South Park" creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone and Scientology is escalating.

The dust-up gained steam last week when Isaac Hayes, a practicing Scientologist who has long been the voice of the character Chef, quit after objecting to a "South Park" episode called "Trapped in the Closet," which lampooned both the religion and Tom Cruise.

The skirmish continued this week, when Comedy Centrall abruptly pulled a repeat of that episode that was scheduled to air Wednesday evening. Showing instead was another memorable seg which featured Hayes's character, called "Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls."

Blog reports pegged the mysterious episode switch to objections raised by Cruise, who, the reports stated, threatened to not promote "Mission: Impossible 3," the summer tentpole for Viacom-owned Paramount.

A spokesman for Cruise denied that Cruise had ever made such a threat. "He never said any such thing about 'Mission: Impossible 3," the spokesman said.

While the "South Park" creators didn't directly comment on Comedy Central's decision to pull the episode, they issued an unusual statement to Daily Variety indicating the battle is not over.

"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"

The duo signed the statement "Trey Parker and Matt Stone, servants of the dark lord Xenu."

Sarky Devotchka

03-17-2006, 05:52 PM

"summer tent pole" sounds dirty.

all this scientology stuff just blows my mind. aliens! seriously, what the fuck? these people are retarded.

Lindsey_1535

03-17-2006, 05:57 PM

<3 argggg you Parker I love you

Mr. Boomin'Granny

03-18-2006, 11:10 PM

I wonder if i would get in trouble with putting some pics of chef in my cube at work?

Monsieur Decuts

03-19-2006, 01:28 AM

I dont work for Scientology. The founder of the company i work for is a scientologist and they use the Hubbard management philosophy, which they say is not based on scientology but in reality is heavily, if not all, based on it.

Will do. I'll give a reader's digest version.

First off, any CoS (Church of Scientology), and any company using the management technology (or tech as they call it) relies heavy on stats. Not statistics but basic stats.

This is how they relate to anything they do in business, if you are upstat (good) or downstat(bad).

They also use "Ethics" which i use loosely in my terms, there are 4 basic conditions and they each are based on how you are upstat or down stat.

They are, from bad to best: Non-Existence, Danger, Emergency, Normal, Affluence.

Basically if your stats are good for the week then you do a little write up on it.
It pretty much states that you dont change a thing, ethics are mild, and you keep doing what you were doing.

The fault is that some stats are bs and some stats are not easily controlled by one person. For example, my stat is "web site functionality points" which is basically how much work i do. That is a "bs" stat because every thing i do is weighted differently but that is not stated on my stat. yeah i have different point values for different things, but its not the same. I am not doing the same thing everyday so it varies. What matters is that i get the work done, and done right and on time, not how much i do.

There's another stat in my div that is basically web pages view. Now that is basically not in our control at all. Yeah we can send out tons of emails and promo (not even our area) but that doesnt guarenttee page views. They do not see it that way. Like i said before, common sense fails in these people.

And get this, since my company likes to hire from the church, and not wogs(wogs are non-scientologists) like me, they believe that anyone can learn how to do something by READING about what hubbard said about it. We have lots of incompetent people at my work. Our Head of Accounting, has never taken an accounting class. Doesn't know any shit about accounting in the business world, minus what Hubbard said about it.

I'm not a sell-out because i work for a company that functions by this and i dont really believe in it. What i do is all web-related stuff and only deal with the scientology crap when dealing with administration. It gives me stuff to talk about at lunch with the other wogs.

i might make a Q and A thread about Scientology, if the people want it. And it will be fair and balanced as it should.

good explanation, that business style sounds a little like six sigma...being data driven is not a bad way of doing buisness.

Chad the Lad

03-19-2006, 07:07 AM

uh, well at least islam is a real religion, and not some cult started in order to dodge tax.

why? cos its older? cunts just wanna be fuckin trendy these days an wear stupid string shit on their wrists.

religions a way of keepin cunts in line, forcing rules on em an shit.

but hey, cant wait for trey an matt to rip the piss outta issac fuckin hayes - i used to like that cunt!

synch

03-19-2006, 07:42 AM

it cant be worse than islam
This is even worse than your football knowledge.

QueenAdrock

03-19-2006, 10:50 AM

ORLY? Then you might like this...
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/68e2/

I bought that for my brother's birthday two years ago. No one gets it except the nerds, which is pretty awesome.

PS. They should bring back Mr. Derp, the dummy who took over when Chef was taken over by that evil succubus.

Mr. Boomin'Granny

03-19-2006, 05:28 PM

good explanation, that business style sounds a little like six sigma...being data driven is not a bad way of doing buisness.

six sigma is totally different. I have a business degree and know quite a bit about statistics. It is way different.

you cant be just totally data-driven. You have to look outside of the box to see if any external causes were to blame. They don't think like that.

na§tee

03-19-2006, 05:49 PM

uh..
i quite fancy matt stone.
yippers!

Freebasser

03-24-2006, 10:22 PM

So for anyone who doesn't know; Chef died, then came back to life as Darth Chef (courtesy of Peter Serafinowicz) and it was pretty darn good (y)

Rancid_Beasties

03-24-2006, 10:40 PM

I thought the rebuttal episode was a bit of a dud.

Bob

03-25-2006, 02:21 AM

I thought the rebuttal episode was a bit of a dud.

that's probably because you're retarded, because it was actually hilarious

Medellia

03-25-2006, 02:24 AM

I wouldn't say "hilarious". It was funny, but not their best. That said....Darth Chef, hehehe.

Bob

03-25-2006, 02:24 AM

I wouldn't say "hilarious". It was funny, but not their best. That said....Darth Chef, hehehe.

well, that's where you're wrong, because it was

Medellia

03-25-2006, 02:28 AM

No no no, the best was the sea-people+sea-men=sea-ciety episode. Followed closely by "Trapped in a Closet" and the underpants gnomes ep. I thought the newset one was just kinda average.

Bob

03-25-2006, 02:49 AM

goodbye EEEEVERybody!

I'M GONNA MAKE LOVE to your rectum CHILDREN!

watch it again, you'll see

Medellia

03-25-2006, 03:04 AM

It's "sweet love", Bob. Sweet love. And I'm sure I will see it again. But I still think it's pretty average for South Park. Now if we were comparing it to current Simpsons, yeah, hilarious might be an appropriate adjective for it. It didn't cause me to nearly piss myself. Maybe that's a better way of putting it?

burbboi

03-25-2006, 05:54 PM

Check this out! I just searched for 'scientology' on wikipedia and found this passage :

Scientology is a religious movement based on a system of beliefs, teachings, practices, and rituals that originated as philosophy in 1952 by author L. Ron Hubbard, and characterized by the Church of Scientology in 1953 as an "applied religious philosophy". Hubbard defined Scientology as "knowing how to know" [1], although he is also known to have described it as "a study of knowledge" [citation needed]. It was originally thought up to be a contest between Robert A. Heinlein and Hubbard to see which of their books could attract the largest cult following. But when Heinlein noticed that too many of his readers were being serious about this, he withdrew from the contest and published a note to his readers basically telling them not to take the ideals in his book seriously, while Hubbard liked the idea of a cult/church based on his book and continued through it, despite Heinlein's asking to stop it.

I have to say I found that pretty amusing. IT'S A SHAM FOR CRIPES SAKE.