Relationships

[cosmo105]

a conversation with an old friend got me thinking. he seemed to have a view that marriage = doom, and that you could never truly be happy committing to another person because that meant giving up some of your own desires blah blah. (of course i asked him, "and tell me about your parents' relationship." you can guess his response. "miserable.") anyway, what are your views on committment in general? are you a Long-Term Lucy or a Fling Finnegan? do you think that you can't give yourself...absolutely...to someone else? or do you live for getting comfortable and counting on someone to be there for you? do you look forward to sharing your life with someone or do you feel like a wyld stallyn that needs someone wild to run with instead of tame you or however that retarded-ass sex and the city quote goes? do you feel that being in a relationship and sacrificing some of yourself for the good of that person is ultimately self-destructive, self-serving, or beneficial for all parties involved? please discuss.

i realise this is a lot like my old "mawwiage" thread but i'm bored and have two more hours until my next class.

[Nuzzolese]

Well, what are your views?

[ericlee]

everyone knows the commitment of marriage and shouldn't do it if the thought that their desires can't be overrun by being totally dedicated to the one you love. It's just that simple.

It's not hard at all and I don't even have any desires but my wife and I'm on my 3rd of marriage.

One thing that helps a little is take a break from each other after about 5 or 6 months of being together everyday. It might not seem to be necessary but sometimes people just get tired of being with each other everyday.

[bigblu89]

I'm a Long Term Lucy... Well, Linus, 'cause I'm a guy.

I had no problems coming to terms with the fact that my wife will the the only person I'll ever "be with" again (both physically and emotionally).

I've always been like that. I was never a random hookup kinda guy.

It all goes back to the single-taken thing each having it's own pros and cons.

I just see more Pros in the "taken" half of the argument.

Other than "Not being with another person EVER", if the person is the right person, what are the cons?

(y) for your spelling of wyld stallyn

[hpdrifter]

I kind of see it as falling somewhere in the middle. I would like to get married, I think there's something really beautiful about sharing your life with someone. But at the same time, I don't know if, in this day and age, a lifetime commitment is really necessary or even possible.

I mean, I've had 2 long-term relationships, one lasting 3 years, the other 4.5. I don't consider them failures even though they didn't end up lasting forever. I learned a lot, and I'm still friends with both of the exes. I loved them both very much, but over time circumstances changed and we grew apart. I'd like to think there is someone out there I could celebrate a 50th anniversary with, but if I don't find that person, I'm not going to stay in something that isn't working.

Its a balance, you don't want to give up too easily or too soon but you also don't want to try to force something to work that isn't going to.

Edit: For me it isn't really about sex (whether or not I'll ever get to sleep with someone else again) its about whether the relationship is still rewarding.

[DandyFop]

I've tried four different responses to this thread and I'm still nowhere near articulating what I want. Hrmph.

[cosmo105]

Well, what are your views?
when i was younger i always thought i wanted something long-term and deep. but i was much needier back then and i think all i wanted was reassurance and affection. if i had what i have now back then, i'm sure i wouldn't have been able to handle it and probably would have sabotaged it somehow by testing its limits.

i dated a lot. way too much. a new guy every season, or month even. i could get them easily...but i couldn't hold on to them. i was clingy and annoying. and then i met someone just as clingy and neurotic and we had 3 horrible years of "committment" that involved infidelity on both sides and a mutual mistrust and i really thought i was going to be stuck in a thing that horrible forever.

where i am now...it's so odd to me, looking back. i know that a huge part of the reason i'm in a healthy relationship now is because i'm a much more confident, healthy person and can take care of myself. i think the problem is too many people go into a relationship thinking that the other person will take care of their each and every emotional need, and that's just not true or fair.

i don't know how i'd define a good relationship, though. for me it means being with someone i trust wholeheartedly and can count on. someone that i support, that supports me. not a crutch by any means on either side, though. a best friend, and someone that really enriches my life. i guess if we were to change down the line and it didn't work, i'd understand and let that go...rambling, i know...i just have a whole electron cloud of thoughts on what i think is good about love in general and it made me so sad to talk to my friend the other night and think that he really believes he'll never be happy with another person in his life.

not that i think people absolutely need another person to be happy! don't think i'm saying that. it's just, he wants to be with someone, but hde knows he'll never be satisfied with it, because he thinks that giving of yourself some is self-destructive, when i think it can just as easily be self-serving because of the kickbacks you get from it. and he's the type that wants something to be constantly new and stimulating and different - he even said that his idea of happiness is freeclimbing in the himalayas, being on top of the world. but even doing that he'd be wondering what else is out there, and what better things he could be doing. just like in relationships. that's i guess what i wanted to get at here. when you're committed, do you see it as tied down, unable to go for other, possibly better opportunities? or do you see it as happily invested in something that suits your needs, so you don't feel a need to go searching for something else? obviously i fall in the latter category.

[cosmo105]

For me it isn't really about sex (whether or not I'll ever get to sleep with someone else again) its about whether the relationship is still rewarding.
that is so true. guys i know (coincidentally guys i've dated, wonder what that means) always ask me, "so you're okay with knowing that you can't sleep with/make out with/etc anyone else ever again?" and they always seem to be so shocked that i'm fine with it. i don't WANT to do that with anyone else. it wouldn't hold the same meaning for me. that's a whole other issue, though, i suppose, with the way men view sex and affection in general. i don't want to be sexist, though, so i won't overgeneralize.

that's a good term for a relationship, rewarding.

[hpdrifter]

I fall into the latter category as well.

The sex part is enhanced by the things that we share. He makes me laugh, he's social and likes to go out and do stuff together, and he does lots of little things that mean a lot to me. And because I love him so much, he makes me really really hot.

Though I will cop to a fantasy or two about Jake Gyllenhal when I'm stuck in traffic.

[cosmo105]

i think that Jake is one of those "givens." like, he understands that if Adrock should ever invite me to his hotel suite, i'd have to go. i mean, i don't think even he could turn that man down. Jakey is just someone that men have to understand that we can't help but love. deeply. it's not that he's trying to take us away from them. he can't help it either. he feels really bad about it, but it's tiring, so don't crowd. it just is, so don't fight it.



ohhhh jakey.

[DandyFop]

" like, he understands that if Adrock should ever invite me to his hotel suite, i'd have to go.

dork :cool:

[cosmo105]

i think it's a law that differs from state to state. i've been meaning to look it up.

[cosmo105]

damnit nuzz this thread was MADE for you.

and yeah, ericlee, i do agree that taking little sabbaticals from each other is beneficial. you've got to give yourself some time to re-coagulate your thoughts and come to know exactly what that other person brings to your life that you might be taking for granted.

[DandyFop]

I have struggled very much over the past few years with my huge loss of confidence and independence. I need to regain these before I can really be with someone else, but my loneliness gets the best of me. I get horribly horribly lonely...

okay that really has nothing to do with the thread though.

I got no fuckin clue.

[cosmo105]

and that's a problem. i got lucky in that i found someone that gave me the confidence to know that i was worthy of love, yet i didn't need constant reassurance and ego-pumping to function. i guess that came with the whole living thousands of miles away part. but seriously, if you get into a relationship with someone just because you're lonely and you want to get the good things out of it without really considering all it entails, it just leads to more dependence :(

[Cooky Puss]

I'm a Lucy, but wish I could do the Finnegan thing...
It would make life so much easier.

[hpdrifter]

I was thinking about the time apart thing the other day. It sounds fucked up but I usually need time apart to reconnect with myself and remember who I am independent of the boyfriend. I guess my natural inclination is to conform to his lifestyle the more time we spend together, so I need time to myself to remind myself that I am a person outside of the relationship.

Its fucked up but its honest.

[DIGI]

I'm definitely a Fling Whateverthefuckyousaid. In my mind, I would love to be the kind of guy that would be comfortable giving himself totally to a woman, but I just can't see how it could possibly materialize any time soon. It has a lot to do with me, but there outside influences. I've always kinda been the "loner" that didn't need support from anyone. Plus, it seemed the majority of girls I dated in college (3), who were such beautiful sweethearts when the relationship started, turned into possessive psychopaths. I mean, seriously, what kind of girl would drive an hour to a bar my friends and I are chillin at to see if I'm picking up other girls. AND, for the record, I've never cheated on a girlfriend EVER and I've made that abundantly clear to all women I date. Crazy bitches. I do see becoming the other possible, but it would the old "missing puzzle piece" cliche for me to commit wholeheartedly to a woman for the rest of my stay here.


(Jesus, how the fuck do you people type so much all the time!?! Fuck!)

[Nuzzolese]

I try to expand my perceptions of relationships, be realistic, open-minded, introspective, objective, transcendentally objective of the subjective, I try to be philosophical and disciplined and moral and soul searching and all of that and no matter what I think that I may think or should think, at this time in my life, by default, I want to spend the rest of my life with one person ...

and struggle through it and make it work, make an art out of living my life with one person, tailoring our futures to be complimentary to one another...

because we don't have fixed lives, paths, or characters, we shape them not to be constantly satisfied but simply so that we do have a path and a goal and stick to our plans.

And the reason I can't give up this deep seated ideal is that my parents have always been together and are still happily married and have figured out a way to have their own lives and have one life together as a unit. They're my primary example. When I think of "marriage" I think of them.

And that's what I can't help continuing to expect for myself, even if I never get it. I don't know if I've found that person already or not. I just expect foolishly that I will. Or that it will grow into that if I try hard enough.

[Freebasser]

I don't really know what I want in a relationship, I just think that whatever is gonna happen will happen when it happens. If you know what I mean. I hope it does happen one day, but I don't think I'd be a very good partner anyway right now.

But what the fuck, I don't want to end up like this guy.
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1287/

It's kinda sad actually.

The key to the city? Really?

Wow!

[ericlee]

I try to expand my perceptions of relationships, be realistic, open-minded, introspective, objective, transcendentally objective of the subjective, I try to be philosophical and disciplined and moral and soul searching and all of that and no matter what I think that I may think or should think, at this time in my life, by default, I want to spend the rest of my life with one person ...

and struggle through it and make it work, make an art out of living my life with one person, tailoring our futures to be complimentary to one another...

because we don't have fixed lives, paths, or characters, we shape them not to be constantly satisfied but simply so that we do have a path and a goal and stick to our plans.

And the reason I can't give up this deep seated ideal is that my parents have always been together and are still happily married and have figured out a way to have their own lives and have one life together as a unit. They're my primary example. When I think of "marriage" I think of them.

And that's what I can't help continuing to expect for myself, even if I never get it. I don't know if I've found that person already or not. I just expect foolishly that I will. Or that it will grow into that if I try hard enough.

wow, seriously, wow. That is like lyrical material for a song. As a matter of fact, the whole post, especially the first paragraph, as is can make a decent song. Good job

[b-grrrlie]

I have totally failed in my relationships. Mine have never even lasted a year. I never knew what to do. So I gave up. I've been single 95% of my life so guess I can't adjust being with someone else.

[g-mile7]

wow, seriously, wow. That is like lyrical material for a song. As a matter of fact, the whole post, especially the first paragraph, as is can make a decent song. Good job


No doubt they are really good. Someone been listening to their hooked on phonics(lb)

[Bob]

i don't ever see myself getting married. not because i fear commitment (although that could be true, i've never had the chance to find out), but because i've never found a person i could stand to be around for more than a month. every roommate i've ever had i've ended up hating. not that they're bad people, i just find stuff to hate about everyone i find myself around for prolonged periods of time. little things, you know, sniffles, finger tapping, air drumming, etc., by the end i inevitably end up wanting to murder them.

they're not bad people, they're people that i was friends with before, am still friends with afterwards, but as long as i have to see them every day, i hate them, like real, honest, temporary hatred. i can only assume that that would apply to relationships, as well.

but maybe not. i don't know.

edit:
I have totally failed in my relationships. Mine have never even lasted a year. I never knew what to do. So I gave up. I've been single 95% of my life so guess I can't adjust being with someone else.

that too

[rirv]

I like being in a relationship and enjoy the company it brings but on the other hand I enjoy being alone a lot too so find it hard to always have to make plans around someone else.

My other problem is I never talk about myself which I think fustrates people because then they know nothing whatsoever about me. I just don't think people would be interested. I know some people who all they do is talk about themselves and they piss me off. I guess it's a reactionary thing. That and I can sometimes be painfully shy around certain people and in certain situations.

[miss soul fire]

Marriage is a very dangerous thing for everyone. I hate it when people say that they can get married and if there's any problem they get a divorce. I mean, of course, if the relationship is really really really not working then you should give up, but people just don't seem to fight to maintain it. We should know it's not easy to have to share your life with another person and you gotta change your perspectives in some ways, like what you can accept in a relationship and what you cannot. I mean, if you marry someone who doesn't like to go out at all and you are a paty person, that's really not gonna work or if you marry someone who discriminates the minority and you think "nobody is perfect and this is just one bad thing about the person". Sometimes it's better the person has lots of small bad things about them than one big thing. I get so sicken when I hear some guy whining about his wife, like "my wife is a nag" and this and that. It doesn't seem like they never ever got along, why not at least trying to bring it back?? It seems like they were forced to get married. I so hate it. People are not thinking much these days. Committing to one person is hard, but you gotta try to be strong. I see my mom and dad, for example. I don't think they ever loved each other. Why did they get married then?? At that time, I believe it was pure pressure, but still...how are you gonna bring something good back if you've never had it? In some rare cases, people actually can start liking someone after getting married (that's really rare though), but why put in risk your love/family life?
Since I was a kid, I've always tried not to think about marriage because I thought it was the day I would start my sentence, which it's what many people think, but you gotta make a choice, unfortunately. So do it and bear the consequences. Not hard but possible.
I didn't contribute anything to this thread and I never really write what I was gonna write before actually writing, so this may sound completely silly and stupid, but anyway, it was nice practice my bad English. Whatever. I'm new to this relationship thing, but it's been quite nice to go out with someone I actually like. This has nothing to do with this thread though. Hihihi.:D

[cosmo105]

I try to expand my perceptions of relationships, be realistic, open-minded, introspective, objective, transcendentally objective of the subjective, I try to be philosophical and disciplined and moral and soul searching and all of that and no matter what I think that I may think or should think, at this time in my life, by default, I want to spend the rest of my life with one person ...

and struggle through it and make it work, make an art out of living my life with one person, tailoring our futures to be complimentary to one another...

because we don't have fixed lives, paths, or characters, we shape them not to be constantly satisfied but simply so that we do have a path and a goal and stick to our plans.

And the reason I can't give up this deep seated ideal is that my parents have always been together and are still happily married and have figured out a way to have their own lives and have one life together as a unit. They're my primary example. When I think of "marriage" I think of them.

And that's what I can't help continuing to expect for myself, even if I never get it. I don't know if I've found that person already or not. I just expect foolishly that I will. Or that it will grow into that if I try hard enough.
thank you.

that's interesting about your parents. my parents has a pretty bad relationship, in my eyes, and it was my mom's second and my dad's third. and my mom has told me that if it weren't for my little sister she would have left him etc. but i honestly don't think she would have. deep down, they really did love each other and were deeply committed. but i think that was more because they had so much invested in it and were sort of dependent on each other.

now my mom's the most independent woman ever and has been dating the same guy for about five years but swears she will never get married again. i doubt he'll ask her, really...they just go out to dinner on the weekends and go on vacations together every once in a while and i have to babysit my little sister and the whole time matt's teasing me that they're probably doing it right now.

but i think i base my ideal for a relationship on my grandparents. they just celebrated their 62nd anniversary. 62 years! that's more than 3/4 of their lives! and they got married at 22. that's pretty young. i can't imagine getting married at that age, or even anything under 25. they were lucky, though. they knew it was right from when they met in high school. and honestly, i've never once heard any stories of them arguing at all. they have an amazing dynamic - a perfect yin and yang, and they still hold hands and kiss each other goodnight. i think that's so wonderful. when there aren't enough seats, she'll sit on his lap. they still have pet names for each other. sigh. my brother and his wife are a lot like that too. very comfortable around each other and complementary, but at the same time, they have a lot of outside friends and independent interests.

i think it's dangerous to get so wrapped up in a relationship that you close off all other doors, and i think that's what my aforementioned friend fears. and i've been in that situation. lost several years to it, really. it just takes practice, i guess. b-grrrlie, bob, don't give up. i went through dozens of shitty flings before i ever got to something real. :)

[Kid Presentable]

I love my bitch, and I'm her nikkuh, and we smoke motherfuckers like it ain't no thang.

Marriage is good if you're with the person who becomes your best friend.

She lurks on here, I know it. She smells.

[ericlee]

Marriage is good if you're with the person who becomes your best friend.



Couldn't have been said better(y)

[Kid Presentable]

Couldn't have been said better(y)
I had to watch it, though. I wanted to say "Eventually you wind up fucking your best friend" but that was a little too open to interpretation.

[Yeti]

I'm married and have a baby boy on the way. He is a weird looking translucent fetus right now & I can hear his heartbeat. When he grows up I will tell him to play the field but not to end up as the old man at the local pub swilling beer during happy hour. That guy seems lonely.

I like to talk with my wife and pester her on occasion & I don't even have to go out to look for a loose woman anymore. One time I met a very sassy lady with a beautiful smile. When I woke up next to her the following morning she looked like Nipsy Russell:eek:

[g-mile7]

I'm married and have a baby boy on the way. He is a weird looking translucent fetus right now & I can hear his heartbeat. When he grows up I will tell him to play the field but not to end up as the old man at the local pub swilling beer during happy hour. That guy seems lonely.

I like to talk with my wife and pester her on occasion & I don't even have to go out to look for a loose woman anymore. One time I met a very sassy lady with a beautiful smile. When I woke up next to her the following morning she looked like Nipsy Russell:eek:


Glad to see your doing well man

[DapperDiverge]

i think... no i know that i'm the problem when it comes to relationships. I just don't trust people, in general... it's hard for me to let myself go with people... especially with those that i like.

i hate the whole having a tuna fish sandwich every night...

i hate leftovers, i wanna mix my variety up a bit... ya know, indian tonite, tommorow japanese, then middle eastern, mexican, chinese, etc... probably get some "danishes" for dessert... damn, got hungry again:o

[Nuzzolese]

Bob, what if one day you find a lady and she doesn't get on your nerves? Let's say she's so-so looking and a mediocre conversationalist, and she has the unique capacity to never annoy you after hours spent together? Would you marry her just for that? I'm just wondering if you think you would get married. Because you seem like the kind of guy who does things because you think you should...for osme greater good that many times remains mysterious even to you while you're doing it.

[Bob]

Bob, what if one day you find a lady and she doesn't get on your nerves? Let's say she's so-so looking and a mediocre conversationalist, and she has the unique capacity to never annoy you after hours spent together? Would you marry her just for that? I'm just wondering if you think you would get married. Because you seem like the kind of guy who does things because you think you should...for osme greater good that many times remains mysterious even to you while you're doing it.

i don't know what you're talking about.

now if you'll excuse me, i have to see if my last acceptance letter has come in yet.

but seriously, hmm, that's a good question. i don't know. that's probably about as close as i can see myself ever finding long lasting love, but i really don't ever see myself as a marriage kind of person. i've always been the type of person who likes to be alone, i rarely feel a need to be around other people, and when i am, i often feel a need to get away.

but, if a person comes along that changes all of that, then i guess my self-perception changes, too, so who knows? i probably would, if my friends or family convinced me that i ought to (seriously).

[Nuzzolese]

You might make a more successful lawyer being single and not having to worry about a marriage. And you'd save money. But after you're established with the leather chair and the wall of books and the little green glass lamp, you can get a trophy wife. She'll spend most of her time shopping and decorating and at the spa, and you can say you're working late. If I were your mother, this is what I'd want for you...happiness!

[b i o n i c]

the getting a career and making money thing and later getting a 'trophy' wife sounds about right

[ChrisLove]

I like being in a relationship and enjoy the company it brings but on the other hand I enjoy being alone a lot too so find it hard to always have to make plans around someone else.

My other problem is I never talk about myself which I think fustrates people because then they know nothing whatsoever about me. I just don't think people would be interested. I know some people who all they do is talk about themselves and they piss me off. I guess it's a reactionary thing. That and I can sometimes be painfully shy around certain people and in certain situations.

This sounds exactly like me.

[cosmo105]

i think someday bob is going to find a really intelligent, really strong woman that is going to see him for the prime mansteak he is and rock his world. he's going to be overwhelmed by it and unable to function for a while. hopefully she won't hurt him at all, because it would send his whole life into a tailspin, and not the disney kind. but this woman will be so determined to get him that he can't help but comply and he'll fall madly, and i mean batshit insane drunk in love with her. and he won't be able to live without her anymore. she might be nonchalant or dismissive to him to some degree but they'll have a good dynamic. think clementine and joel in eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. that'll be bob and his mystery firecracker someday. hopefully he figures her out enough to know how to hold on to her and they'll end up together, and hopefully she doesn't rip his heart through his chest scorpion-style and go sleep with a bro to piss him off.

[Freebasser]

Or he could just sleep with his drunken naked housemate.

[cosmo105]

he'll do that when she leaves him. weeping, cold, naked except for his sweat, grasping a thin jager-soaked blanket.

[Bob]

i think someday bob is going to find a really intelligent, really strong woman that is going to see him for the prime mansteak he is and rock his world. he's going to be overwhelmed by it and unable to function for a while. hopefully she won't hurt him at all, because it would send his whole life into a tailspin, and not the disney kind. but this woman will be so determined to get him that he can't help but comply and he'll fall madly, and i mean batshit insane drunk in love with her. and he won't be able to live without her anymore. she might be nonchalant or dismissive to him to some degree but they'll have a good dynamic. think clementine and joel in eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. that'll be bob and his mystery firecracker someday. hopefully he figures her out enough to know how to hold on to her and they'll end up together, and hopefully she doesn't rip his heart through his chest scorpion-style and go sleep with a bro to piss him off.

thats sounds pretty bang on, actually. the "but this woman will be so determined to get him that he can't help but comply" part, especially, because i swear to god that's what it's going to take :(

[Qdrop]

i could seduce bob in 5 minutes.

[Bob]

it would be over in 7

[Auton]

that would be kind of hilarious to watch.

[Qdrop]

it would be over in 7

i didn't say it would last...

[marsdaddy]

I've had both extremes. In high school and much of college, I had 2 long term relationships -- lasting 2+ years each. For the last year of college, and once I graduated, I wanted to play the field. I worried I was a serial dater and wanted to break free -- like the time I gave up drinking for a month.

It was fun, exhausting, and crazy. That lasted for about 4 years, and then I met my current wife. In addition to the person she is, timing had a lot to do with our relationship growing. We've both battled demons that have challenged our relationship, yet supported each other through the battles.

Right now, we're in the euphoria of me recovering from a life threatening illness, and we just had our second son. My friends were checking out the hot little waitress at dinner last week while I just sat there with a shit-eating grin, happy to be alive and raising a family with the woman I love.

My parental situation is the exact opposite of what I have with my wife -- as if I saw what didn't work and set out to fix it.

[miss soul fire]

I've had both extremes. In high school and much of college, I had 2 long term relationships -- lasting 2+ years each. For the last year of college, and once I graduated, I wanted to play the field. I worried I was a serial dater and wanted to break free -- like the time I gave up drinking for a month.

It was fun, exhausting, and crazy. That lasted for about 4 years, and then I met my current wife. In addition to the person she is, timing had a lot to do with our relationship growing. We've both battled demons that have challenged our relationship, yet supported each other through the battles.

Right now, we're in the euphoria of me recovering from a life threatening illness, and we just had our second son. My friends were checking out the hot little waitress at dinner last week while I just sat there with a shit-eating grin, happy to be alive and raising a family with the woman I love.

My parental situation is the exact opposite of what I have with my wife -- as if I saw what didn't work and set out to fix it.
This is so beautiful!!! I want a guy like youuuuuuuuuuuuu!:o

[GreenEarthAl]

And then there's me. I'm DIFFERENT. And that's o-k-a-y.

[little j]

i've always been a long term kind of girl. I prefer to be in a relationship than without a relationship.

to me a healthy relationship is being mutually independent of eachother and mutually dependent on each other at the same time.

[Bob]

And then there's me. I'm DIFFERENT. And that's o-k-a-y.

because i'm good enough, i'm smart enough, and doggone it...people like me.

[hardnox71]

I have always been one to stick it out for the long haul, come what may. I'm like that with friendships as well as relationships (unless betrayal is involved, then it's 'fuck you, bye-bye'.)

My longest relationship was to the mother of my daughter. We were together for almost ten years. In that time we both grew and evolved as individuals and together as a couple in so many different ways. We broke up in June of 2001 and I have not dated since. I've had absolutely no desire to do so. I notice that I've adopted quite a defeatist attitude in the way of thinking, "Why bother dating? What's the point? It's not gonna last. Nothing ever does." One of the hardest things I've ever been through in my life is watching my little girl grow up 2,000 miles away. There is no way in hell I could go through that all over again with someone else. It would fucking kill me. I wouldn't be able to take it. So I guess I figure the easiest way to avoid all that shit is to just be by myself.

Yeah, it is pretty lonely and it does suck being by myself all the time. But you know what?


It doesn't hurt.

[cosmo105]

And then there's me. I'm DIFFERENT. And that's o-k-a-y.
it sure is. :)

bob, you need to stop being so terrified of vaginas. i know they're scary-looking, and weird shit comes out of them sometimes, but they can be pretty great.

[Freebasser]

My vagina has teeth and can hold an intelligent discussion

[cosmo105]

you really need to stop talking while you're chewing, now that you mention it.

[Kid Presentable]

My vagina has teeth and can hold an intelligent discussion
Tell it to chew with its mouth shut, then.

[cosmo105]

JINX!#%!

[Kid Presentable]

JINX!#%!
whaddayagonnadoaboudit?

[Freebasser]

She'll touch your wood.

[Kid Presentable]

Wooden leg? Fine by me. I'll let her pretend it's a machine gun if that helps.

She can run around me going "brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrrbbrrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rbrrrbrbrbrbrbrbrrrrrrr!" while I rub salve on my stump.

[Bob]

it sure is. :)

bob, you need to stop being so terrified of vaginas. i know they're scary-looking, and weird shit comes out of them sometimes, but they can be pretty great.

i saw this one picture of one that looked like the predator, i think that's probably the root of my problems