Global Warming - new & improved, now faster than ever!

[2sweet2Bsour]

What scares me most is the possibility that we've already mucked up the joint beyond repair.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/26/coverstory/index.html

So much for our smug conviction that global warming ain't our problem, but the problem of those poor slobs from the future - you know, The Future, like when people will dress in silver jumpsuits and travel by hover vehicles.

Human beings are amazing, improbable creatures.- maybe too amazing, maybe too improbable. Is there any planet that could sustain the likes of us for long? Maybe we should have stayed in the trees. At the very least, maybe our politicans should have started paying attention sooner instead of dismissing it all as wacky leftist propaganda.

[kaiser soze]

It's been rotting under our feet for years, just sugar coated

it's funny how people act as if they know what is going to happen on both sides of the fence...we have no fucking clue how badly, or what good may come of it

for all we know the world couldl flip upside down in 2 seconds, the 100,000 mph winds turning everything to dust

Sad to say the signs have been around for decades, the tools to conserve ourselves have been too

[2sweet2Bsour]

it's funny how people act as if they know what is going to happen on both sides of the fence...we have no fucking clue how badly, or what good may come of it

for all we know the world couldl flip upside down in 2 seconds, the 100,000 mph winds turning everything to dust


Yeah, one thing I took from the article was a sober reminder about how limited we really are in what we know. We don't know jack; all we can do is guess. Our scientists are trained to be better guessers than most but in the end they're "all just guesses, wouldn't help you if they could." However, the signs are there and it's at least becoming more probable that the global warming theorists were not only right, but more right than they knew. In case the world flips upside down tomorrow, I'd like to register for the record that I'm grateful for my improbable existence, and glad that it was not wasted suffering through an ice age. My skin has a hard enough time dealing with winter for 3 months at a time.

[D_Raay]

I thought this was hilarious. From Real Time with Bill Maher


And finally, New Rule: Nobody can use the phrase "our greatest problem" anymore unless you're talking about global warming. President Bush has been saying we're in a war on terror, and now I get it. He's not saying "terror," he's saying "terra" as in "terra firma," as in the Earth. George Bush is an alien sent here to destroy the Earth! I know it sounds crazy, but it made perfect sense when Tom Cruise explained it to me last week.

Now, last week on "60 Minutes," James Hansen, who is NASA's leading expert on the science of climate delivered the world's most important message. He said, "We have to, in the next ten years, begin to decrease the rate of carbon dioxide emissions and then flatten it out. If that doesn't happen in ten years, we're going to be passing certain tipping points. If the ice sheets begin to disintegrate, what can you do about it? You can't tie a rope around an ice sheet." Although I know a certain cowboy from Crawford who might think you could.

And that cowboy and his corporate goons at the White House tried to censor Mr. Hansen from delivering that message, claiming such warnings were speculative. This from the crowd that rushed into a war based on an article in the Weekly Standard. This - this from the guy who thinks Kyoto is that Japanese emperor dude his dad threw up on.

Global warming is not speculative. It threatens us enough so that it should be considered a national security issue. Failing to warn the citizens of a looming weapon of mass destruction - and that's what global warming is - in order to protect oil company profits, well, that fits, for me, the definition of treason. And codified treason.

Please, wait a second. The guy in the White House who made the edits was Phil Cooney, who had been an oil industry lobbyist before given this job as head of the White House Council on Environmental Quality. That's the office that is supposed to be watching out for us. But that's where Phil busied himself crossing stuff out in scientists' reports, because apparently in Phil's mind, he hadn't switched jobs. He was just doing his old job - oil industry lobbyist - from a different office. You know, in the "people's house."

Republicans have succeeded in making the environment about some tie-dyed dude from Seattle who lives in a solar-powered yurt and eats twigs. It's not. This issue should be driven by something conservatives are much more familiar with: utter selfishness. That's my motivation. I don't want to live my golden years having to put on a hazmat suit just to go down and get the mail. Those are my Viagra years. When I'll be thinking about having children.

But I wouldn't know what to tell a kid about our world in 20 years. "Dad, tell me about the birds and bees." "They're all gone. Now, eat your Soylent Green." We are letting dying men kill our planet for cash, and they're counting on us being too greedy or distracted, or just plain lazy, to stop them.

So, on this day, the 17th anniversary of the Exxon Valdez oil spill, let us pause to consider how close we are to making ourselves fossils from the fossil fuels we extract. In the next 20 years, almost a billion Chinese people will be trading in their bicycles for the automobile. Folks, we either get our s*** together on this quickly, or we're going to have to go to Plan B: inventing a car that runs on Chinese people.

[SobaViolence]

i wish i kept track of how many times i've posted global warming related stuff on this forum.

we gotta do something and fast.

[EN[i]GMA]

I thought this was hilarious. From Real Time with Bill Maher


And finally, New Rule: Nobody can use the phrase "our greatest problem" anymore unless you're talking about global warming. President Bush has been saying we're in a war on terror, and now I get it. He's not saying "terror," he's saying "terra" as in "terra firma," as in the Earth. George Bush is an alien sent here to destroy the Earth! I know it sounds crazy, but it made perfect sense when Tom Cruise explained it to me last week.

Now, last week on "60 Minutes," James Hansen, who is NASA's leading expert on the science of climate delivered the world's most important message. He said, "We have to, in the next ten years, begin to decrease the rate of carbon dioxide emissions and then flatten it out. If that doesn't happen in ten years, we're going to be passing certain tipping points. If the ice sheets begin to disintegrate, what can you do about it? You can't tie a rope around an ice sheet." Although I know a certain cowboy from Crawford who might think you could.

And that cowboy and his corporate goons at the White House tried to censor Mr. Hansen from delivering that message, claiming such warnings were speculative. This from the crowd that rushed into a war based on an article in the Weekly Standard. This - this from the guy who thinks Kyoto is that Japanese emperor dude his dad threw up on.

Global warming is not speculative. It threatens us enough so that it should be considered a national security issue. Failing to warn the citizens of a looming weapon of mass destruction - and that's what global warming is - in order to protect oil company profits, well, that fits, for me, the definition of treason. And codified treason.

Please, wait a second. The guy in the White House who made the edits was Phil Cooney, who had been an oil industry lobbyist before given this job as head of the White House Council on Environmental Quality. That's the office that is supposed to be watching out for us. But that's where Phil busied himself crossing stuff out in scientists' reports, because apparently in Phil's mind, he hadn't switched jobs. He was just doing his old job - oil industry lobbyist - from a different office. You know, in the "people's house."

Republicans have succeeded in making the environment about some tie-dyed dude from Seattle who lives in a solar-powered yurt and eats twigs. It's not. This issue should be driven by something conservatives are much more familiar with: utter selfishness. That's my motivation. I don't want to live my golden years having to put on a hazmat suit just to go down and get the mail. Those are my Viagra years. When I'll be thinking about having children.

But I wouldn't know what to tell a kid about our world in 20 years. "Dad, tell me about the birds and bees." "They're all gone. Now, eat your Soylent Green." We are letting dying men kill our planet for cash, and they're counting on us being too greedy or distracted, or just plain lazy, to stop them.

So, on this day, the 17th anniversary of the Exxon Valdez oil spill, let us pause to consider how close we are to making ourselves fossils from the fossil fuels we extract. In the next 20 years, almost a billion Chinese people will be trading in their bicycles for the automobile. Folks, we either get our s*** together on this quickly, or we're going to have to go to Plan B: inventing a car that runs on Chinese people.

Did you say, War on Terra?

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/War_on_terra

[kaiser soze]

here's some glacial melting galleries

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/sci_nat_how_the_world_is_changing/html/1.stm

http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=626&gid=42&index=0

the results are in, now how the hell are we going to slow this down?

the planet's sunscreen is disappearing!

[2sweet2Bsour]

But I wouldn't know what to tell a kid about our world in 20 years. "Dad, tell me about the birds and bees." "They're all gone. Now, eat your Soylent Green."

:D That was awesome, thanks.

i wish i kept track of how many times i've posted global warming related stuff on this forum.

we gotta do something and fast.

Have you thought of the possibility that it might already be too late? That's what gets me. On the other hand . . . the other day I was reading some amazing stuff about "terra forming," the theory that we can artificially induce Mars into having an Earth-like atmosphere, and turn planets with poisonous atmospheres (like Venus) non-poisonous. These are serious theories; there are those that believe terra-forming is not so much a possibility but an inevitability. If our scientists believe they can make an entire new atmosphere for Mars out of nothing, patching up a teeny little hole in our ozone layer should seem like cake in comparison!