Fishscale is good, T.I. album is better

[King of Rock $]

Fishscale wasnt bad but some of it is kinda corny like the rhymes on 9 milli bros for instance or that vocal sample on kilos. I like be easy, back like that and the champ though. And underwater is dope too. The rest of the album suffers from sub-par production, in my opinion.

King on the other hand has amazing production, real head nodders from Mannie fresh (2x) Just Blaze (2x) and then there's that rock-type song, and the neptunes+common track. Only duds are the swizz beats tracks, that dude fell off.

Anyway Fishscale is not as good as King.

[Ally Al]

controversial

although i haven't heard T.I. so i can't compare. i disagree about Fishscale, but hey opinions and arseholes and all that stuff

[King of Rock $]

I think clipse of doom or that extreme reverb-snare on kilos just don't cut it.

The T.I. album is banging, if you're into that southern 808/synth stuff. What you know is a good representation of the other stuff on the album.

[Ally Al]

I think clipse of doom or that extreme reverb-snare on kilos just don't cut it.

The T.I. album is banging, if you're into that southern 808/synth stuff. What you know is a good representation of the other stuff on the album.


see, now i like both those


never been to big a fan of the whole dirty south/ crunk thing. What are the just blaze beats like on the album ? Someone has sent it to me i've just not unzipped it yet

[King of Rock $]

He did the intro, which is banging, it samples the exorcist. He also did I'm talking to you which sounds pretty chaotic and a bit lo-fi but still pretty dope

[Ally Al]

hmm chaotic and lo-fi ? sounds dope, I'll give it a listen

[Mr Films]

TI's third verse on "I'm Talkin' to you" is fucking bananas.

but Blaze's beat on Fishscale's "The Champ" is better than anything on King.

i bought em both, i like em both.

[Mr Films]

ps, my fav track on King is the swizz track "Get It"

swizz aint fell off, you crazy

[King of Rock $]

Thats gotta be the worst beat I've heard in recent memory. His drum patterns are way too random for me. And there's too much going on. I think it sounds a bit fruity.

I agree with your first post the champ is my shit both lyrically and beat wise.

"My arts is crafty darts/While y'all stuck on laffy taffy/Wondering how did y'all ni99as get past me/I been doing this since before Nas dropped the nasty"

and

"Who wanna battle a don/I'm James Bond in the octagon"

[mickill]

I can't believe you knocked Kilo. Sinner.

T.I.'s album is a little tighter in terms of the full package. But there's no way he's even in the same hemisphere, stratosphere or mesosphere as Ghost lyrically/vocally. What You Know is nice, but Goodlife is corny and King Back is one of my least favorite Just Blaze tracks ever. I think Fishscale has a lot of filler, too, but it's still the overall better album. And while there's about 5 or 6 too many, the skits on Fishscale are better, as well.

[roosta]

lyrically "kilos" is amazing..but the hook almost ruins it.

[mickill]

You guys listened to way too much Charlie Brown, man. No disrespect, roosta.

Kilo has one of the most clever uses for a sample in years. I was blown away by it. And Ghost is probably the only rapper that could have gotten away with not making it corny, next to maybe Jay Z. It's classic.

[Ally Al]

yeah, i don't get the kilo's hate at all, it's dope

btw i have the track it samples if you want it

(oh, and a hip hop comp on the way for the weekend)

[roosta]

Charlie Brown is the joint! better show up on the Doom/Ghost album....
ps....i like the beat...its just the hook.

btw i LIKE kilo...just the hook could have been better...

[mickill]

btw i have the track it samples if you want it

I posted a link to this (http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=739) in roosta's thread. Wasn't sure if anyone saw it, though.

roosta, you'd probably enjoy the sample for Charlie Brown. It's actually not a bad song.

[DIGI]

TI's third verse on "I'm Talkin' to you" is fucking bananas.



Hahahahahaha!!! You said BANANAS!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it!!!!!!! What the fuck!?!?!?

[Gareth]

king is good, i prefer trap muzik though

[Auton]

you guys are crazy. the chorus for kilo is perfect for the song

[Mr Films]

yeah, kilo is tops.

like i said, I bought both these records but the ghostface disc has gotten the most play.

it's more satisfying, i think.

with TI, it seems like as production goes up, lyricism must come down.

he doesn't seem as consistent as Trap Muzik.

so yeah, Fishscale is great and I changed my mind- the skits rule.