Helping Iran

[Justin]

I understand that our government has sent money over to Iran to help assist earthquake damage cost.

Has our administration been watching the news lately? Iran has nuclear weapons and they already said they would use them. Hell they have already tested them.

I never understood stuff like this. Its like we separate safety, security, war from trading/imports/exports, and aiding for other problems. What the fuck!?

Is it really possible to know that the money we are sending over is absolutely going towards the earthquake damages?


Also, so we didnt know iraq had nuclear weapons and we started a war there. We know Iran HAS nuclear weapons and they are not friends to us, and we help them out and do nothing about the nuclear weapons.

hmmmm

I remember my grandfather telling me that this country hasnt been in this bad a shape since the 20's and herbert hoover. Im starting to believe him.

[D_Raay]

I understand that our government has sent money over to Iran to help assist earthquake damage cost.

Has our administration been watching the news lately? Iran has nuclear weapons and they already said they would use them. Hell they have already tested them.

I never understood stuff like this. Its like we separate safety, security, war from trading/imports/exports, and aiding for other problems. What the fuck!?

Is it really possible to know that the money we are sending over is absolutely going towards the earthquake damages?


Also, so we didnt know iraq had nuclear weapons and we started a war there. We know Iran HAS nuclear weapons and they are not friends to us, and we help them out and do nothing about the nuclear weapons.

hmmmm

I remember my grandfather telling me that this country hasnt been in this bad a shape since the 20's and herbert hoover. Im starting to believe him.
Is this serious or some kind of joke?

[Qdrop]

Is this serious or some kind of joke?

he has a point, though.

you would think that we, as a country, can separate aid for human suffering from political impasses...

but is it really that simple?

[D_Raay]

he has a point, though.

you would think that we, as a country, can separate aid for human suffering from political impasses...

but is it really that simple?
Point notwithstanding, his information is off. Of course that isn't his fault.

[Ace42X]

Business with the enemy? Bush family has form.
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html

Oh, and so does his administration:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/handshake300.jpg

[Justin]

Point notwithstanding, his information is off. Of course that isn't his fault.

Those were just my thoughts. I think to understand this administration sometimes you dont need to go far into detail.

Sometimes its easier to explain in the simplest of terms.

[Schmeltz]

Its like we separate safety, security, war from trading/imports/exports, and aiding for other problems.


Gosh, you think? Perhaps that has something to do with the prospect of improving safety and security through such humanitarian measures. The Iranians might possibly be taking you for a ride, but then again this could also be a step forward in defusing the tension over Iran's purported (not realized, so far as I know) nuclear ambitions.

On another note, when I was in Florida over reading week the old people there had similar things to say about the future direction of American society. One of my grandmother's friends asserts that the USA will be a Third World country within my lifetime - and he used to be a diehard Republican.

[checkyourprez]

One of my grandmother's friends asserts that the USA will be a Third World country within my lifetime - and he used to be a diehard Republican.


all good things must come to an end sometime.

i think we will see some changes in our lifetime, what necessarily, i dont know.

[Ace42X]

One of my grandmother's friends asserts that the USA will be a Third World country within my lifetime - and he used to be a diehard Republican.

If you saw Morgan Spurlock's "Minimum Wage" episode of 30 days, you'd say it is here today.

[D_Raay]

If you saw Morgan Spurlock's "Minimum Wage" episode of 30 days, you'd say it is here today.
Agreed.

[ms.peachy]

I never understood stuff like this. Its like we separate safety, security, war from trading/imports/exports, and aiding for other problems. What the fuck!?


How is that hard to understand?

If you don't like the way a country is run and how they are doing business, you scale back or freeze economic involvement in terms of trade.

However, when something tragic and beyond politics like, say, an earthquake happens, and there are people who are in urgent need of food, shelter, clean water, etc, you help them, because it is the right and human thing to do. What wouuld be gained by withholding aid and saying "no, sorry, I don't like your president, so, you know, screw the lot of you"?

There is of course always the risk that a percentage of money or supplies is going to be siphoned off by corrupt individuals or groups. That doesn't offset the moral imperative, IMO. Aid can be provided in many ways; going through established and reputable oganisations like the Red Crescent and Medicins Sans Frontiers helps insure that as much of it as possible goes to the appropriate need.

[enree erzweglle]

One of my grandmother's friends asserts that the USA will be a Third World country within my lifetime - and he used to be a diehard Republican.
If you saw Morgan Spurlock's "Minimum Wage" episode of 30 days, you'd say it is here today.That was a great episode (even though he tended to work jobs where he made more than minimum wage).

I asked my kid to watch that episode and then he had his friends watch it. They understand how expensive some things are (like entertainment and meals and rent and groceries, basics for an apartment) because they've worked minimum wage jobs and have had to cover expenses like that.

What was an eye-opener to them, though: health care and how much those two ER visits set Spurlock and his fiance back. Until then, I am pretty sure that they took health care for granted because it's been provided for them. They've probably equated `problems with the cost of health care' with unemployment; they've maybe thought that if you have a job, then you automatically have [free?] health care and everything is covered under it. Interesting.

By the way, I wonder if this is the episode that'll be edited into a full-length documentary & released in theaters. (I've heard that one of his episodes was going that route, but I wasn't 100% sure if it was the minimum-wage one.)

[Ace42X]

There is of course always the risk that a percentage of money or supplies is going to be siphoned off by corrupt individuals or groups.

Like Haliburton, and the other American companies involved in reconstructing Iraq?

http://www.channel4.com/news/blogs/09_23_blog.html

But yeah, it's the UN taking a few hundred thou from the food for oil program that is corrupt... Embezzling billions, heh, that's just good business.