for christs sake already people...

[zippo]

start writing something of content once in a while. hooray for the bullshit as well, but if most of you never balance it off with something of content,thought, analysis, significative opinions,theories ...?

where are your minds at? wheres the food here? im getting hungrier every minute...im getting skinny people, really skinny. please fatten me up.

write. write. write. say what you really think. say what you doubt. say what you dont want to say.say what drives you into paranoia. say anything...but take responsibility already...be this a place for it or not, theres absolutely no excuse for spending years here and not once having said something of content...that simply reflects a poor soul.

lets make some money. how about that. fuck. so many people yet...

[adam_f]

This thread was made directly after I said I have 37 cents in my pocket in your Change thread. In a way, I feel like I changed your life.

[TAL]

adam_f is a WINNER!!

[sab0tage]

i have a lighter in my pocket:D

[zippo]

This thread was made directly after I said I have 37 cents in my pocket in your Change thread. In a way, I feel like I changed your life.

haha, nono, the people that bring the funny are excluded from my second official complaint

[Nuzzolese]

When something is on my mind it takes up all my concentration. And it's all I want to talk about. But when it's not something I feel comfortable telling the board, then I have nothing of depth to offer. There's displacement of attention.

[adam_f]

Originally posted by TAL
adam_f is a WINNER!!

When I thought you were a woman, your hip totally gave me hot flashes.

[TAL]

That makes me think you're a woman.

[zippo]

your like one of those psycho pms'ing chicks huh?

yes skye

...I WANT TO KILL YOUR MOTHER, IM BLEEDING

[adam_f]

Originally posted by TAL
That makes me think you're a woman.

That makes me think that you're going through andropause.

[TAL]

Will I become an android after that?

[enree erzweglle]

Seems to me that things ebb/flow here and each ebb or flow lasts for maybe a couple of weeks. Some weeks it's okay to be protracted or philosophical or both and that's a good thing according to what the board wants. Other times you've got to be absolutely into sarcasm and one-liners--giving and getting. Sometimes in between particular ebbs and flows is this sort of vacuum and that's when we talk about how to eat french fries.

[adam_f]

An android with erectile dysfunction.

edit: that comment not directed toward enree.

[zippo]

When something is on my mind it takes up all my concentration. And it's all I want to talk about. But when it's not something I feel comfortable telling the board, then I have nothing of depth to offer. There's displacement of attention.

once again nuzz, please dont ever leave this place.

you know what this is about, coming back here after a short while and still there basically being no room for what im asking for...*sigh*

[TAL]

Stop coming back then.

[zippo]

Seems to me that things ebb/flow here and each ebb or flow lasts for maybe a couple of weeks. Some weeks it's okay to be protracted or philosophical or both and that's a good thing according to what the board wants. Other times you've got to be absolutely into sarcasm and one-liners--giving and getting. Sometimes in between particular ebbs and flows is this sort of vacuum and that's when we talk about how to eat french fries.

i realize and agree with that, but the quantity between them all is still way too unbalanced you know what i mean...yea, you know what i mean.

who can not want it? who can not want to get it out there, us...out there...its amazing really.

[Ace42X]

start writing something of content once in a while.

Been saying that for months and months.

[Nuzzolese]

Seems to me that things ebb/flow here and each ebb or flow lasts for maybe a couple of weeks. Some weeks it's okay to be protracted or philosophical or both and that's a good thing according to what the board wants. Other times you've got to be absolutely into sarcasm and one-liners--giving and getting. Sometimes in between particular ebbs and flows is this sort of vacuum and that's when we talk about how to eat french fries.

That's community living

[ericlee]

hey zippo, Bob's poor dog is on it's last legs:( Why don't you go down and give him your condolences. He deserves it.

[zippo]

Stop coming back then.

no tal, i love sharing my writing with strangers and getting at least 3 posts of constructive feedback. im still gonna be pushing for more though.

[sab0tage]

Seems to me that things ebb/flow here and each ebb or flow lasts for maybe a couple of weeks. Some weeks it's okay to be protracted or philosophical or both and that's a good thing according to what the board wants. Other times you've got to be absolutely into sarcasm and one-liners--giving and getting. Sometimes in between particular ebbs and flows is this sort of vacuum and that's when we talk about how to eat french fries.

I've quickly found that everyones ebb/flow is slightly out of sync so that a sensible discussion can quickly be shot down by people who are ebbing when other are flowing.

[enree erzweglle]

i realize and agree with that, but the quantity between them all is still way too unbalanced you know what i mean...yea, you know what i mean.

who can not want it? who can not want to get it out there, us...out there...its amazing really.I do know what you mean. I see this in real-life sometimes too. Sometimes I'll be talking with someone and unless we're talking about that person and only that person--his/her projects, his/her interests, stuff that he/she is superior in and that I know nothing about--man, we cannot sustain a conversation. Like if I do any more ego-stroking, I'm going to get carpal tunnel.

It's sometimes like that here too. It's hard to get a conversation about something interesting going and then when you maybe do, it degrades into sarcasm or just kind of dull stuff. But sometimes the opposite happens as well--a sarcastic sort of throw-away thread turns interesting somewhere along the line.

[TAL]

im still gonna be pushing for more though.
Have fun with that, it won't make any difference.

[Nuzzolese]

:( Been saying that for months and months.

If everyone wrote something of content it would expand into a large mesh and some of it would end up in your periphery and you wouldn't even be able to focus on it. What you're saying is, you want options?



Zippo...damnit, why should I never leave this place? You do. You post these deep thoughts and they are beautiful, they're like poetry, and I always know what you mean they awaken my imagination, they're so stimulating. But you leave too. You leave for a while. You remain a mystery and you keep your distance. So it's hard. It's hard to put in too much or engage in much of a dialogue here when people come and go and you hardly know who you're talking to. It's just showing off. It's like a dance-off or something, two people going back and forth tapping their heels. How does it carry over into the rest of our lives? How does one thread carry over and maintain significance for the rest of our lives? Unless our whole lives are spent tapping our heels. this isn't how we live, this posting of threads, this maintenance of userpersonas.
It's an effort. For most it's a mindless denial of time passing and opportunities wasted.

I know you're frustrated and so am I. And I'm so full of contempt and disdain and impatience with the potential this medium has for communication and provocation and the results of it. I look at so many people here and their posts and I think "wasted" their efforts are wasted here. But where do they belong anyway?
:(

[Nuzzolese]

You know, people like to say that zippo or ace are aggressive or weird or bullies or they don't make any sense. And they just want to be left alone to be normal easy going people without all this lofty discussion or having to try too hard for a wasted internet bulletin board of nonsense taht won't last or amount to anything tangible but the way I see it, THOSE people are the bullies repressing and denying and crushing things. This is just an experience, like an active, alive thing that changes constantly and it's good to be a part of it when it's active and rolling along.

When someone is pushy or verbose, at least they are trying to foster something - a discussion, an arguement, something.

[enree erzweglle]

How does it carry over into the rest of our lives? How does one thread carry over and maintain significance for the rest of our lives? Unless our whole lives are spent tapping our heels. this isn't how we live, this posting of threads, this maintenance of userpersonas.
It's an effort. For most it's a mindless denial of time passing and opportunities wasted. I posted something about this in some other thread this week. Yes, for some people, it's just that: a thing to pass the time and if that thing involves interacting with people here, that's fine but it's an expendable thing or a thing that can be replaced by wikipedia or some other random browsing/surfing. You might form one-on-one relationships/exchanges with some of those people and to some of them, that's just something to occupy time until they can get themselves to doing some other something. I think some people here are stuck at jobs that they hate or that bore them and they don't leave the jobs but instead come here. Not everyone. Some.

[Nuzzolese]

I posted something about this in some other thread this week. Yes, for some people, it's just that: a thing to pass the time and if that thing involves interacting with people here, that's fine but it's an expendable thing or a thing that can be replaced by wikipedia or some other random browsing/surfing. You might form one-on-one relationships/exchanges with some of those people and to some of them, that's just something to occupy time until they can get themselves to doing some other something. I think some people here are stuck at jobs that they hate or that bore them and they don't leave the jobs but instead come here. Not everyone. Some.


I remember reading that that you posted. It was kind of sad. It made me sad, because you sounded disappointed or rejected like you thought you were really sharing something with someone, only to find out you were their passing entertainment.

But how much can you expect? People have complete lives, they don't want to add any more complications. You maintain your privacy and personal distance. People don't want to get attached.

[jabumbo]

coming here too often is like hanging out with the same friend everyday, sometimes you just run out of shit to talk about until something new happens.

deal with it.


not everyone leads such an exciting life such as yourself

[zippo]

I know you're frustrated and so am I. And I'm so full of contempt and disdain and impatience with the potential this medium has for communication and provocation and the results of it. I look at so many people here and their posts and I think "wasted" their efforts are wasted here. But where do they belong anyway?
:(

*marrys you*

[mickill]

Sometimes I dip my McNuggets in bbq sauce, sometimes I dip them in hot mustard. Usually it's a combination of honey and hot mustard (2:6 ratio), but never ever sweet and sour sauce. No matter how hard they try to pimp that sweet and sour sauce on me, I just refuse. I'm repulsed at the very thought. Maybe I need to give it another shot, though. Who knows? My point is, let's try dipping our nuggets in different sauces once in awhile.

[Freebasser]

I'm delirious.

[adam_f]

I'm everyday people.

[Nuzzolese]

*marrys you*

So we can spend the rest of our lives together trying to figure this out?

[ericlee]

I look at so many people here and their posts and I think "wasted" their efforts are wasted here. But where do they belong anyway?
:(

so people who come here once and a while to unwind and have fun a bit don't have a place in the real world? All I'm getting from that is a biased opinion.

I would think that when people do attempt to push a little humor once and a while is a little more comforting than what that statement of negativity has to offer.

Oh well, I'm not the argumentive type and glad I don't have a holier than thou approach. in shallah.

[enree erzweglle]

But how much can you expect? People have complete lives, they don't want to add any more complications. You maintain your privacy and personal distance. People don't want to get attached.I know. I get that. I was talking somewhat about something else and it pertained to the boards. I extrapolated.

I maintain privacy for a few reason--mostly because it's not a good thing to give a lot of yourself away when you don't know the people at the other end, when you don't understand their intent. The other reason for privacy is just something that I do out of respect for my friends (who are much more private than I am).

zippo, your posts remind me of thoughts I have right before I fall to sleep--like when I'm in between sleep and consciousness and my mind is in some altered state and I think, I have to remember this but I usually don't.

[zippo]

:(

If everyone wrote something of content it would expand into a large mesh and some of it would end up in your periphery and you wouldn't even be able to focus on it. What you're saying is, you want options?


i just want more, theres nothing much here. maybe i have too much faith and believe people can raise their levels if they want to.

How does it carry over into the rest of our lives? How does one thread carry over and maintain significance for the rest of our lives? Unless our whole lives are spent tapping our heels. this isn't how we live, this posting of threads, this maintenance of userpersonas.
It's an effort. For most it's a mindless denial of time passing and opportunities wasted.

i believe we can fly

[adam_f]

I think you have all forgotten this thread should really be about me.

[zippo]

So we can spend the rest of our lives together trying to figure this out?

*sings a minored note opera song*

[Nuzzolese]

Hey, I'm going to the opera on Sunday! Cosi von tutti. I've had the chance to see so many great operas. Let's see...Aida, La Triviatta, the Barber of Seville, The Magic Flute...my school had this program where you could see the opera for free if you went to just two lectures on it. Pretty sweet deal. This one's just for me and my boo. I don't think he likes opera but he loves the music. Off topic.

[ms.peachy]

Most of the "real" things taking up space in my mind right now aren't, I imagine, things the rest of you really want to hear about. Unless you really, really want to talk about, oh, say, what happens if this whole having a baby thing kills my sex life and my marriage gets weird and scary, or if my breasts don't work properly will my child resent me for life for not b'feeding, it's all about the lighter-weight stuff here for me these days.

[zippo]

zippo, your posts remind me of thoughts I have right before I fall to sleep--like when I'm in between sleep and consciousness and my mind is in some altered state and I think, I have to remember this but I usually don't.

hells yes enree, hells yes, i turn on the lights and start writing when that happens to me, ill get depressed if i forget the next morning, or if im way too tired, you know what you can do, you can assign yourself key words that you can relate to in the morning and spew it all into the mutherfukin beauty we call paper.

sometimes i get such a flow that i need to catch my breath, like in the climax of an opera song, or when you cry...things that go beyond you...things that take a hold of you and make your heart beat faster...its as if you almost cant stay sitting down...

[adam_f]

Originally posted by ms.peachy
Most of the "real" things taking up space in my mind right now aren't, I imagine, things the rest of you really want to hear about. Unless you really, really want to talk about, oh, say, what happens if this whole having a baby thing kills my sex life and my marriage gets weird and scary, or if my breasts don't work properly will my child resent me for life for not b'feeding, it's all about the lighter-weight stuff here for me these days.

Would you just release that kid from his watery residence in your uterus already?

I bet your faking it.

[Nuzzolese]

Most of the "real" things taking up space in my mind right now aren't, I imagine, things the rest of you really want to hear about. Unless you really, really want to talk about, oh, say, what happens if this whole having a baby thing kills my sex life and my marriage gets weird and scary, or if my breasts don't work properly will my child resent me for life for not b'feeding, it's all about the lighter-weight stuff here for me these days.

I would be really interested in hearing this. You know for a while I was afraid that I had endometriosis I still think something's wrong with me.

[ericlee]

Bruce Dickenson started his career in music as an opera singer prior to forming Iron Maiden.

That's right, he sang opera wearing a mullet.

[enree erzweglle]

hells yes enree, hells yes, i turn on the lights and start writing when that happens to me, ill get depressed if i forget the next morning, or if im way too tired, you know what you can do, you can assign yourself key words that you can relate to in the morning and spew it all into the mutherfukin beauty we call paper.

sometimes i get such a flow that i need to catch my breath, like in the climax of an opera song, or when you cry...things that go beyond you...things that take a hold of you and make your heart beat faster...its as if you almost cant stay sitting down...I've read about this on/off--how to capture those thoughts and direct them in terms of that semi-altered state and in terms of the ensuing dream state.

For me, sleep is a delicate thing. My body often gets (and only wants) maybe 2-4 hours of it and if I do a thing to interrupt that altered-state stage then I might be completely awake for the rest of the night, in between those phases. So I try not to tempt it, play with it, but I want to because the thoughts then are so, vivid, so surreal to my normal way of thinking.

[ms.peachy]

Would you just release that kid from his watery residence in your uterus already?

I bet your faking it.
Seriously, does it not seem like I have been pregnant for fucking forever now or what???

10 days. In theory. Half the time I just want her out, and then I realise that as soon as that happens she's going to want things. All the time. From me. And then I think oh god no, stay in there.

I am kind of digging the whole layin' around the house like a big oreo-eatin' walrus though(y)

[Ace42X]

You know, people like to say that zippo or ace are aggressive or weird or bullies or they don't make any sense.

Do they? Behind my back, I hope.

And they just want to be left alone to be normal easy going people without all this lofty discussion or having to try too hard for a wasted internet bulletin board of nonsense taht won't last or amount to anything tangible

Having frequented numerous forums, I can safely say that this particular sub-forum has one of the most unashamedly dull and self-indulgent group of posters out of the lot of them. No other forum I have been on has 90% of the postcount being attention whoring. Have a look at the first 20 topics, and see what I mean.

"So I faked an illness"
"I'm going through puberty.
"What song are you listening to, AKA what song am I listening to"
"I'm on my cellphone"
"What is the last DVD you watched, AKA what is the last DVD I watched."
"Check out the trailer for my movie."
"Douchebag post of the week, AKA let's all look at ourselves some more."
"I nearly threw my shoe at her."


I have cold sores, I need your help, I'm going to clean my toenails, my dog's gonna die, I'm going to get a yoyo.

FFS, self-absorbtion that could've glazed over the eyes of narcissus. Are your lives so bereft of meaning that you have to bore everyone else with the most inconsequential of banalities? Are they so bland that it is a highlight for the rest of you to comment on these?

It's also funny how a lot of the posters here think that using a word of more than two syllables is abnormal. What's with that? It is depressing that people somehow think that wilful ignorance is "ok".

[sab0tage]

Bruce Dickenson started his career in music as an opera singer prior to forming Iron Maiden.

That's right, he sang opera wearing a mullet.

He is now a commercial airline pilot

[b i o n i c]

i dont think you can derive a damn thing about me just from my posts here. other than i come on here to fuck around, to read and sometimes to vent. very rarely do i see this place as a forum to display any sort of creativity

mostly because i'm doing this while im watching tv, listening to music, talking to frineds or working so i don't get to really focus.

[enree erzweglle]

...about the importance or relevance of these discussions, the people who come here and why they do, this thought has occurred to me about several people: if they went from here, I would absolutely miss them. I would wonder about them and hope that they were doing okay in life, that they were happy, content, doing what they want to do, what they need to do. And if they were to leave, I imagine that I'd look at the boards and say a very sort of bittersweet board goodbye.

[ericlee]

I can see where you're getting at Ace but you know, sometimes people want to share their experiences with other people and there just isn't anybody in their general vicinity to share with. Maybe because they're at work and they don't have such an understanding with their coworkers like they feel when they come here.

The topics get replies because maybe they've shared similar events in their lives. Maybe it's a feel good thing for some people to open up a thread and see that they are normal and that wow, there's actually people that think or have done something very similar.

It may seem to be tedious to some but it's alot more appealing to look at rather than someone griping about it.

And yeah, Bob's dog is in bad shape but we all know he's made some edjucated contributions to this board so there's surely nothing wrong with his thread. It's a rough time for him and as an animal lover such as myself and if I were going through the same predicament as him without having past experience of how to handle something like that then maybe I'd want to ask for a little advice. Even if it is per say on a m.b.

Here goes nothing...

/taps submit reply

[Ace42X]

sometimes people want to share their experiences with other people

"I'm getting a yoyo" ?

The topics get replies because maybe they've shared similar events in their lives.

Again, it's all about "me".

And yeah, Bob's dog is in bad shape

I only picked an arbitrary selection of topics at the top of the board, and I am sure that every poster here has, if they searched through the archives, managed to shit out at least one gold nugget. However, look at the person's post-count, and you realise that isn't anything special.

And no, that was not aimed at Bob, or anyone, specifically.

[Freebasser]

And yeah, Bob's dog is in bad shape but we all know he's made some edjucated contributions to this board so there's surely nothing wrong with his thread.

How else is he supposed to talk about his dog dying anyway, if he's not allowed to say "my" or "I"?

I can see it now:

There's this dog I've had sinc... nope
My family have had this do... damn
The dog I own... nono

I know! DOG DYING NOW. VERY ILL. CLICK WITHIN.

[Ace42X]

How else is he supposed to talk about his dog dying anyway, if he's not allowed to say "my" or "I"?

Perhaps, just perhaps, people with nothing of consequence to other posters should simply say nothing?

Of course, that would make a deathly silence fall on the forum, possibly killing it off altogether. Personally, I think it would be worthwhile just so that we didn't have to see your non-posts.

[Freebasser]

OH NOES!

[zippo]

hey zippo, Bob's poor dog is on it's last legs:( Why don't you go down and give him your condolences. He deserves it.

hey i missed this

dammit, poor bob :(

[Ace42X]

OH NOES!

Another startling rejoinder from the people who brought you "I have better things to do than reply to you, which happens to include telling you that I have better things to do."

You, sir, deserve a medal.

[TAL]

hey i missed this

dammit, poor bob :(
That's what happens when you have all these thoughts, you miss the important stuff.

[ms.peachy]

Perhaps, just perhaps, people with nothing of consequence to other posters should simply say nothing?

I don't get why everything anybody posts should have to be 'of consequence' to other posters. This board, like most others, is really quite democratic - if someone posts something and others have something to say about it, however substantial or insubstantial, it takes off and runs for a page or two or ten or whatever; and if it is not of interest to others then it will drop down and die its own natural death. So whilst Bob's dog dying might be 'of no consequence' to me, I can certainly relate, having lost my own old girl just about 2 years ago now, and I'm happy to take a moment out of my day to empathise. Everyone else is free to do or not do the same.

Really I just do not understand anyone complaining about the content of a board or quality of the threads or whatever. We're none of us forced to be here.

[mickill]

"I'm getting a yoyo"?

If I recall correctly, the individual you're referring to hadn't yet decided whether or not they were going to invest in a yo-yo. Hence the thread. It was a cry for help.

[Ace42X]

I don't get why everything anybody posts should have to be 'of consequence' to other posters.

Solicitude.

This board, like most others, is really quite democratic - if someone posts something and others have something to say about it, however substantial or insubstantial, it takes off and runs for a page or two or ten or whatever; and if it is not of interest to others then it will drop down and die its own natural death.

By that argument, that spammer adveritising his paypal pyramid scheme, which managed to get dozens of replies, is as meritous, worthwhile and justified, if not more so, than any of the others. Afterall, he managed to ellicit a response, people replied in droves. Why not have someone type the word "spam" (or X, or glunk, or wibble, or whatever) in reply to every post on every thread? Surely that would be just as justified as other posts which are void of content?

Really I just do not understand anyone complaining about the content of a board or quality of the threads or whatever. We're none of us forced to be here.

And yet we are obliged to trawl through a sea of posts to keep track of topics that are of interest, as they are easily lost in a deluge of drivel. If a thread is hijacked, as often happens, that can often kill a topic stone dead, or result in you checking the forums regularly, only to go "oh, it was the twats talking bullshit again, I didn't miss out on the few subjects of any interest." I can't count the number of times I've missed a thread I found interesting because a page full of crap pushed it 3 pages back, killing it off artificially early because no-one can get to it.

That's how compulsions are born.

[ericlee]

"I'm getting a yoyo" ?


ahem, yeah, I'm laughing. That's pretty bad.

[zippo]

That's what happens when you have all these thoughts, you miss the important stuff.

what are you talking about tal

where in the world is carmen sandiego tal

[TAL]

I don't think Christ drank sake.

[ericlee]

still, the point being in complaining about the threads being a lack of interest is a step even further towards being self centered.

Complaining about not having things your way. The way you want to see it. That's basically how I look at it when I narrow it down in laymens terms.

Once it's been broken down for everyone to look at, who's being more attention whorish? The people typing said threads or people complaining because it's so much garbage and it's not to their liking?

[Ace42X]

still, the point being in complaining about the threads being a lack of interest is a step even further towards being self centered.

You are confusing selfish / self-centred with self-absorbed. There is a difference between wanting things your way, and talking about yourself constantly. By its very definition, talking about other people, critically or otherwise, is not self-absorbed.

who's being more attention whorish? The people typing said threads or people complaining because it's so much garbage and it's not to their liking?

Should be pretty self-evident, shouldn't it? Look at the number of threads of one compared to the other, look at the posting ratios. If the people complaining were attention whoring, you'd find dozens of threads a day on the subject, and it all be focused on them, not them criticising *others*.

[ericlee]

there's another "MY" titled thread up yonder.. Hmm.

/takes ass back that Ace is handing me.

[Ace42X]

I'd really not mind, but contrary to some people's suggestions, we ARE a captive audience here. Short of leaving the whole forum in a fit of pique, what are you to do if you do not want to read about someone buying a yoyo? Scroll down half a page of ambiguously titled threads? Read through half a thread at a time to get to the first original thought?

The reason people post these things is because they instinctively KNOW that if they wrote it in a blog, like all the considerate egotists do, they wouldn't be able to trawl a few responses from people who feel obliged to comment because of the social influence of the board.

It is precisely because of the quantity of bumfodder that gets posted here that the dozens of daily threads manage to ellicit even a handful of responses.

[Knuckles]

it's all about the lighter-weight stuff here for me these days.

That's what it's all about for me. I come here to unwind, laugh, and hopefully find new pics of Mickill and Qdrop to print out and paste on my wall.

[Kid Presentable]

Everybody who is complaining about the light-weightedness of this place has at some point contibuted to it, either by posting utter shit, or by playing a part in the playground popularity contest that rears it's ugly head every Friday. So the shit/gold ratio applies to them as well. Just because your post is 8 sentences long, doesn't make it of any greater consequence than a shitty one liner (of which I have been guilty, yes).

[Ace42X]

Everybody who is complaining about the light-weightedness of this place has at some point contibuted to it, either by posting utter shit, or by playing a part in the playground popularity contest that rears it's ugly head every Friday.

Yes, the overwhelmingly shit parts of this place are infectious, like scabies. That doesn't mean it should run rampant, unchallenged. Infact, quite the opposite.

So the shit/gold ratio applies to them as well.

I don't think that is true, though. Check the volume of posts people have, and think of the last time they said something of merit. Some people are in the 10,000s, and months go by without them offering anything in any way thought provoking. That sort of thing is on a completely different level to a lot of the other posters here. Compare that ratio to someone on less than a thousand posts, and think about the maths behind it.

I think you believe that because the sheer quantity of crap colours your perception. Like all of us, you miss a lot of the gold, and so find yourself saying "everyone adds a lot of shit, even the complainers." When actually, the complainers post less frequently, and it is of more merit, and it only seems like they post a lot of crap because there is so much crap that it all merges into a luke-warm indistinct immemorable pointless one-ness.

Just because your post is 8 sentences long, doesn't make it of any greater consequence than a shitty one liner (of which I have been guilty, yes).

One-liners are infinitly preferable to the vacant dross the makes up the majority of postings. They, at least, tend to be amusing. Although many aren't.

[Kid Presentable]

Yes, the overwhelmingly shit parts of this place are infectious, like scabies. That doesn't mean it should run rampant, unchallenged. Infact, quite the opposite.



I don't think that is true, though. Check the volume of posts people have, and think of the last time they said something of merit. Some people are in the 10,000s, and months go by without them offering anything in any way thought provoking. That sort of thing is on a completely different level to a lot of the other posters here. Compare that ratio to someone on less than a thousand posts, and think about the maths behind it.



One-liners are infinitly preferable to the vacant dross the makes up the majority of postings. They, at least, tend to be amusing. Although many aren't.

If I didn't have to eat breakfast I'd alaborate.

10 000 posts= Mostly shit (they know who they are)
I agree about Freebasser
My thread IS an attack on you, but not a good one, nor one you'd acknowledge.

Peace.

[Kid Presentable]

Yes, the overwhelmingly shit parts of this place are infectious, like scabies. That doesn't mean it should run rampant, unchallenged. Infact, quite the opposite.



I don't think that is true, though. Check the volume of posts people have, and think of the last time they said something of merit. Some people are in the 10,000s, and months go by without them offering anything in any way thought provoking. That sort of thing is on a completely different level to a lot of the other posters here. Compare that ratio to someone on less than a thousand posts, and think about the maths behind it.



One-liners are infinitly preferable to the vacant dross the makes up the majority of postings. They, at least, tend to be amusing. Although many aren't.

But, it's a funny old world, and that's all I can say.

[ms.peachy]

Alright everyone, quit wasting Ace's valuable time. Clearly he has much, much more important things to do than read all this crap, and it's been very unfair of us to keep impinging upon him in this way. Shame on all of us.

[jennyb]

God when I open up the bbmb I've just got my fingers crossed that I'll find some toilet humor! I mostly come here to NOT think. My job all damn day wastes all my brain power... you guys are my release. My "Brain Fart" if you will.

[ericlee]

Alright everyone, quit wasting Ace's valuable time. Clearly he has much, much more important things to do than read all this crap, and it's been very unfair of us to keep impinging upon him in this way. Shame on all of us.

snort, roffle, lol, omg, lawl.

Seriously, I love you being here ms. p

I'm going to bed now.

[Ace42X]

Alright everyone, quit wasting Ace's valuable time. Clearly he has much, much more important things to do than read all this crap, and it's been very unfair of us to keep impinging upon him in this way. Shame on all of us.

A pro-spam argument? Touché. Why not dedicate a new thread, every minute of every day, to what our last slice of toast was like, the state of our fingernails, softness of our blankets,etc. Who cares that any sort of conversation would be made impossible as the entire forum disappears under a constant deluge of instantly forgetable inanity, just so long as we get to shit out our toxic loaves?

Never mind the fact that posters here HAVE said to me "Well, sometimes I feel like saying something constructive or interesting and making a decent thread, but then I look at the rubbish churned out by the posters here and I can't be bothered."

Yes, that's right, it's not just a case of poor little me having to dredge through your (plural) meaningless lives, but people who DO have interesting things to say are put off by it.

So let's turn around the old "Ace42 is a forum Nazi, dictating what we should and shouldn't talk about" line, and take another look at it. People using this place as an intellectual toilet have made it an intellectual toilet for everyone else.

The forum is like a common room, and so many people have been taking a dump in a corner that it stinks for everyone else and ONLY gets used as a toilet. And what are the justifications for this "Hey, I like going to the toilet in here, it's the only reason I come in here. After a long day at work, I want to do a big steaming dump. I'm not making anyone ELSE do a crap here... Just doing my own little tiny shit in the corner." So everyone else sees the turdlings and goes "well, I guess no-one minds people crapping here, afterall it IS a toilet!" This come's back to Kid's point. Yes, everyone is partly responsible, but a lot of that is because of the "broken window." - A lot of the posters are shit here simply because other people have made it shitty already.

Now, you might want to argue that "democracy in action" has made this place a toilet. I say bullshit. It is the fact that some people here have very loose bowels and are more than happy to fill it up with crap single handidly.

For it to be democratic, people would have to be churning out insightful intelligent posts with the same regularity as people are commenting on the trivia of their daily lives. Common sense should say that is simply not possible.

It is not "the people" that make this board as it is, it is an incestuous little clique (as occurs in all forums) who have turned "Beasties free" into "Talk about me" and mutual back-patting and dick stroking and the odd tiff. Disect any thread at random, and you'l lsee that nearly all of it is purely phatic. For all the barbs I have had about "you're always online, you don't have anything better to do, you don't have any friends because you're on the forum" - I STILL find it sad that people who profess to have active social lives have nothing better to do than *talk about nothing* just to ease feelings of social isolation.

'Cause that is what it is. It isn't people talking about subjects, it is people just talking for the sake of it, and by dressing it up as a "forum" (rather than just some girly coffee-afternoon sewing circle) they give it a venir of social legitimacy that just isn't present. As I said earlier, if people actually cared about any of the subjects posted here, they'd put it in a blog. And all I can say now is "props to the IRC crew" - at least they are 'keeping it real'.

[Kid Presentable]

A pro-spam argument? Touché. Why not dedicate a new thread, every minute of every day, to what our last slice of toast was like, the state of our fingernails, softness of our blankets,etc. Who cares that any sort of conversation would be made impossible as the entire forum disappears under a constant deluge of instantly forgetable inanity, just so long as we get to shit out our toxic loaves?

Never mind the fact that posters here HAVE said to me "Well, sometimes I feel like saying something constructive or interesting and making a decent thread, but then I look at the rubbish churned out by the posters here and I can't be bothered."

Yes, that's right, it's not just a case of poor little me having to dredge through your (plural) meaningless lives, but people who DO have interesting things to say are put off by it.

So let's turn around the old "Ace42 is a forum Nazi, dictating what we should and shouldn't talk about" line, and take another look at it. People using this place as an intellectual toilet have made it an intellectual toilet for everyone else.

The forum is like a common room, and so many people have been taking a dump in a corner that it stinks for everyone else and ONLY gets used as a toilet. And what are the justifications for this "Hey, I like going to the toilet in here, it's the only reason I come in here. After a long day at work, I want to do a big steaming dump. I'm not making anyone ELSE do a crap here... Just doing my own little tiny shit in the corner." So everyone else sees the turdlings and goes "well, I guess no-one minds people crapping here, afterall it IS a toilet!" This come's back to Kid's point. Yes, everyone is partly responsible, but a lot of that is because of the "broken window." - A lot of the posters are shit here simply because other people have made it shitty already.

Now, you might want to argue that "democracy in action" has made this place a toilet. I say bullshit. It is the fact that some people here have very loose bowels and are more than happy to fill it up with crap single handidly.

For it to be democratic, people would have to be churning out insightful intelligent posts with the same regularity as people are commenting on the trivia of their daily lives. Common sense should say that is simply not possible.

It is not "the people" that make this board as it is, it is an incestuous little clique (as occurs in all forums) who have turned "Beasties free" into "Talk about me" and mutual back-patting and dick stroking and the odd tiff. Disect any thread at random, and you'l lsee that nearly all of it is purely phatic. For all the barbs I have had about "you're always online, you don't have anything better to do, you don't have any friends because you're on the forum" - I STILL find it sad that people who profess to have active social lives have nothing better to do than *talk about nothing* just to ease feelings of social isolation.

'Cause that is what it is. It isn't people talking about subjects, it is people just talking for the sake of it, and by dressing it up as a "forum" (rather than just some girly coffee-afternoon sewing circle) they give it a venir of social legitimacy that just isn't present. As I said earlier, if people actually cared about any of the subjects posted here, they'd put it in a blog. And all I can say now is "props to the IRC crew" - at least they are 'keeping it real'.

So perhaps the cliquery is why people must talk about themselves; it starts at the top and rolls down to the bottom. The only way to be noticed by these folk is to talk about one's own inanity, in hope that it gets positive OR negative attention.

How come you dissed Zorra?

[ericlee]

how's it going Kid?

[Ace42X]

The only way to be noticed by these folk is to talk about one's own inanity, in hope that it gets positive OR negative attention.

I think that might be the case. To be a "personality" here, you have to be noticed and identifiable. Thus, talking about yourself loudly and at length is how you get noticed and carve out an identity, without alienating too many people. It is a "safe" way of getting noticed.

How come you dissed Zorra?

I dissed Zorra? Where? I think she's cool.

[Kid Presentable]

I think that might be the case. To be a "personality" here, you have to be noticed and identifiable. Thus, talking about yourself loudly and at length is how you get noticed and carve out an identity, without alienating too many people. It is a "safe" way of getting noticed.



I dissed Zorra? Where? I think she's cool.
I figure the best thing about having 10 000 posts, is being able to walk in to a thread, call it gay, and have a bunch of teenage kids decide to think that way.

[Kid Presentable]

how's it going Kid?
Sup ric?

[ms.peachy]

A pro-spam argument? Touché. Why not dedicate a new thread, every minute of every blah blah balh blah blah blah ad infinitum.

Take a pill, or go get laid, or something. Seriously.

[Kid Presentable]

Take a pill, or go get laid, or something. Seriously.
I'm surprised at your response Peachy. I thought you enjoyed intelligent discussion.

[ms.peachy]

I'm surprised at your response Peachy. I thought you enjoyed intelligent discussion.
I do, but I don't owe it to anyone, and no one owes it to me. It's nice when it happens, but when it doesn't, I'm not going to stamp my feet and chastise everyone else for being self centered just because they're not dancing to my chosen tune.

[ericlee]

Sup ric?

same ole. That's bout all.

Having a good weekend so far?

[Kid Presentable]

I do, but I don't owe it to anyone, and no one owes it to me. It's nice when it happens, but when it doesn't, I'm not going to stamp my feet and chastise everyone else for being self centered just because they're not dancing to my chosen tune.
It's like Ace's exploitiation thread. He's postulating, peachy. I would be gravely disappointed if he professed to be smart, yet was naive enough to think he could change anything here.


Having a good weekend so far?

Gonna catch up with the other half tomorrow. nudge nudge ;) :rolleyes: oh shit I mean:mad: ....ummm ;)

[ericlee]

I do, but I don't owe it to anyone, and no one owes it to me. It's nice when it happens, but when it doesn't, I'm not going to stamp my feet and chastise everyone else for being self centered just because they're not dancing to my chosen tune.

did you see my pile of shit down there? It's pretty stinky but I actually had a discussion with a cool guy.

Hopefully I helped him out a little with the few words of advice since I've had some experience in to what he's going through.

That pile of shit that was just supposed to go down the toilet turned into a little floater...

I'm not ashamed though, I aint too proud.

How's your weekend so far?

[Ace42X]

I do, but I don't owe it to anyone, and no one owes it to me. It's nice when it happens, but when it doesn't, I'm not going to stamp my feet and chastise everyone else for being self centered just because they're not dancing to my chosen tune.

Instead you're going to bitch at me, because I "blah blah balh blah blah blah ad infinitum."

[ms.peachy]

Instead you're going to bitch at me, because I "blah blah balh blah blah blah ad infinitum."
I'm not bitching at you, I'm just saying, you're a little unneccessarily worked up about this. Go get drunk or buy a blow job or something and get it all into perspective, dude.

[Ace42X]

I'm not bitching at you, (...) Go (...) buy a blow job or something.

You do appreciate how condescending that sounds, right?

[Bob]

(condescending means to display a patronizingly superior attitude in case you didn't know)

[Ace42X]

(condescending means to display a patronizingly superior attitude in case you didn't know)

<Rimshot>

[ms.peachy]

You do appreciate how condescending that sounds, right?
It wasn't meant to be condescending, it was meant to be flippant.

Look... you feel how you feel and want what you want and whatever and I don't expect I or anyone else have much effect on that and the thing is, so what? I'm sorry you're not finding this place a hotbed of intellectual stimulation, but who promised you a rose garden?

[ericlee]

can you guys move all this argument into the "hand written" thread? Please? That will be great!

[alexandra]

word.

[Ace42X]

I'm sorry you're not finding this place a hotbed of intellectual stimulation, but who promised you a rose garden?

Hey, I didn't start this thread. It's not like I woke up and thought "I know, I'll bring everyone in beasties free down." Plenty of people find the content here sub-par, and I am guessing a lot more would make themselves known if they didn't find it so pointless and futile, given that all they can expect as a reaction is to be marginalised by the elite clique.

[ms.peachy]

Well good on you then, leading the charge of the oppressed.

Yeah sorry I know that sounds more cruel than I mean it to be. All I'm really getting at is, and this is not just directed at YOU personally but is a general statement, I just do not for the life of me understand coming on this or any other board and then complaining that it somehow isn't up to snuff and how it's everyone else's fault except for possibly one or two other people who are more 'real' and therefore not displeasing. To me it's like walking into a party and then whinging to everyone within earshot that the music's crap and there's no one there good looking enough for you to want to sleep with.

[Ace42X]

To me it's like walking into a party and then whinging to everyone within earshot that the music's crap and there's no one there good looking enough for you to want to sleep with.

Story of my life. Although more like being invited to a party, and someone asking what you think of it. And there are a few Beasties Free pplz that I would prolly hump given the opportunity.

[ericlee]

heh, Ace said hump. I'd think he'd say something like coitus rather.

See, I like him too, he's ordinary people.

[zippo]

I don't owe it to anyone, and no one owes it to me.


alright, what the hell are you and all the people that categorized my complaint as selfish doing? what are you talking about?? this isnt about me, its not me demanding rules for people to obey. its not about owing anything to anyone....have no idea how you all got there.

i like this place, i love it, i appreciate the humorous posts just as well, ive always underlined that, but noone in their right mind can criticize a call for a deeper type of communication (one that is 80% non-existent). i mean, do you see what youre criticizing? has anyone even carefully read and thought about what im asking for?

*big huge fucking sigh*

[iceygirl]

oh captain my captain

[Bob]

yeah alright, i read the thread backwards and this bit is bothering me and i'm drunk enough to complain about it

Never mind the fact that posters here HAVE said to me "Well, sometimes I feel like saying something constructive or interesting and making a decent thread, but then I look at the rubbish churned out by the posters here and I can't be bothered."

why? "oh, i wanna do this thing but i'm too much of a pussy to do it, it's everyone else's fault that i'm not doing this thing that i want to do"

you wanna be intellectual, you be intellectual. why the fuck would the rubbish posted by everyone else deter you from it? if nobody replies, nobody replies. everyone forgets about it, you move the fuck on with your life.

or bring it to general political, whatever.

that's bullshit. there's no excuse for being a pussy on the internet

don't be a goddamn pussy

and that's coming from me, the 21 year old virgin, the biggest pussy of the board

christ that's the lamest thing i've ever heard, oh my god

can't be bothered? so lame. that's lame. don't be lame.

[fucktopgirl]

bob ,you are too drunk!

[Bob]

but it's such a lame fucking thing to say! even a drunk pussy like me can recognize that!

[fucktopgirl]

the only thing that Ace said,is that some people dont want to put the energy in putting a intellectual thread thinking that it might not be appreciate.

i think!

[Bob]

still, lame

the "i'm intellectual and everyone on this board is a vapid cunt" clique could enjoy it

or you could post it in general political

we should rename general political to "general intellectual"

then everyone's happy

[Bob]

we should rename general political to "general intellectual"

then everyone's happy

i'm serious about this by the way.

do that and rename beastie free to "take a dump on the floor central" and every motherfucker in the place has no more reason to complain

[fucktopgirl]

good ideas,,drink some more,illumination is striking you!

[Lyman Zerga]

you guys give me head
ache

[burbboi]

lame blame game?

[Lyman Zerga]

i like how your guy dances to all the songs im listening to, doesnt matter how shit they are

[burbboi]

Funny you mention it..I changed my avatar to this dude while listening to Jimmy James and seeing him boogie down sometime last week :D

[Bob]

i'm serious about this by the way.

do that and rename beastie free to "take a dump on the floor central" and every motherfucker in the place has no more reason to complain

i'm sober now and i still that's a good/hilarious idea. someone get minton on the phone

[Ace42X]

why? "oh, i wanna do this thing but i'm too much of a pussy to do it, it's everyone else's fault that i'm not doing this thing that i want to do"

[Bill Hicks]I'm trying to make a point about mediocrity, but looking around I can see that some people just aren't going to get it.[/Bill Hicks]

why the fuck would the rubbish posted by everyone else deter you from it?

Social factors, at a guess. Probably people despair that whenever they DO try to make a serious thread, the dull loud-mouths on the forum descend on it, filling it with one-liners of varying (usually middling) quality, effectively disrupting any sort of meaningful discourse that could be achieved. As I said earlier, searching through 4 plus pages of irrelevant off-subject crap to find out if there is even one post of consequence is draining, and many posters can't be bothered. I can't speak for the person who told me that they are turned off from starting more indepth discussions, but I know that I have been turned off making "interesting" threads due to the inconsideracy of some posters. I can think of a couple of threads that started with a specific topic and direction, and the first dozen posts were particularly feeble one-liners, which turns other people off posting. When I look at a topic and see that all of the posts are lame chit-chat off the subject, I generally call the topic a "loss" and move on, and I am not the only one. When a thread looks like a meaningless farce, people cannot be bothered to try and pull it back on topic.

Think about it, you click a thread with an interesting subject and decent first post, and then see two or three pages off off-topic drivel - are you going to be the first person to reply with something that no-one else has brought up? Flip that around, and you see a thread that has no replies - aren't you more likely to reply to that first post meaningfully?

Have a look at some random threads with a sensible topic, and see at what point the sensible replies stop - I bet you'll find that the sooner someone posts crap, the quicker sensible posts die out.

Quite frankly, Bob, I don't think you are in a position to tell people how they should take more effort and work around the irritations caused by *other people's* lack of consideration. It's all very well saying "hey, yeah, I'm contributing to making this forum suck, but hey, everyone else should put in more effort to make up for that!"

if nobody replies, nobody replies. everyone forgets about it, you move the fuck on with your life.

Nobody replying is preferable to the inane dross that makes up the bulk of most of the topics.

[Bob]

Quite frankly, Bob, I don't think you are in a position to tell people how they should take more effort and work around the irritations caused by *other people's* lack of consideration. It's all very well saying "hey, yeah, I'm contributing to making this forum suck, but hey, everyone else should put in more effort to make up for that!"


i'm sure i'm sorry about that

[Ace42X]

i'm sure i'm sorry about that

I didn't mean you specifically in the comment, it was more a generalisation. I think you are one of the better posters here, on the whole.

[Lyman Zerga]

gotta love bob

[Nuzzolese]

Having frequented numerous forums, I can safely say that this particular sub-forum has one of the most unashamedly dull and self-indulgent group of posters out of the lot of them. No other forum I have been on has 90% of the postcount being attention whoring. Have a look at the first 20 topics, and see what I mean.

"So I faked an illness"
"I'm going through puberty.
"What song are you listening to, AKA what song am I listening to"
"I'm on my cellphone"
"What is the last DVD you watched, AKA what is the last DVD I watched."
"Check out the trailer for my movie."
"Douchebag post of the week, AKA let's all look at ourselves some more."
"I nearly threw my shoe at her."


I have cold sores, I need your help, I'm going to clean my toenails, my dog's gonna die, I'm going to get a yoyo.

FFS, self-absorbtion that could've glazed over the eyes of narcissus. Are your lives so bereft of meaning that you have to bore everyone else with the most inconsequential of banalities? Are they so bland that it is a highlight for the rest of you to comment on these?

It's also funny how a lot of the posters here think that using a word of more than two syllables is abnormal. What's with that? It is depressing that people somehow think that wilful ignorance is "ok".


But that's how things are! Nothing is more important than the individual's honest personal relation to whomever is paying attention, and if no one is paying attention then you're not good enough. I think in a community where our material needs are met and overfed, we turn inwards to gorge on our subjective analysis of...ourselves. (trying to be satirical)

I mean look at reality TV shows (this is like one that watches itself) that focus on the personalities of the contestants and the dynamics of the people interacting. It doesn't matter what they're doing, what matters is that they are real people being genuine - or that's the idea anyway - and people are so afraid of trickery, so cynical and suspicious of deception that they favor the dumbed down and the personal because it can't affect you much and it doesn't make you feel stupid. People like simple talk in their entertainment and their politics. I don't get it though, becuase people are often saying (on this board and in person) how they don't like people condescending to them, or they don't come to TV or movies or internets, to have to be challenged. They say they come to be entertained, catered to, or reassured. No one ever wants to be intellectually or emotionally challeneged, only pampered. And I get the idea that people would have you believe their jobs or the insufferable task of daily living are challenging enough without all this extra hassle of having to think for nothing.
Think for no money? Try for no fame? What's the point of thinking or trying to be anything but you're easiest version of yourself, if it doesn't get you anything? (I'm not asking this I'm just trying to ilustrate the impression I get.

Like my coworker, Dawn. And many of my other coworkers. I don't understand what she lives for. She hates to read, she hates movies that are complicated, and she doesn't like any politicians or public speakers who she thinks are talking down to everyone. And it's kind of hard to figure out why or when she thinks someone is talking down to her. It's more about how she feels fine as she is, and as a grown-up doesn't have to keep learning or something. I don't know, I'm making assumptions.

I hate sounding like I am in this post. I don't think people are stupid or ignorant or lazy necessarily. I don't think I'm above anyone or that I always play my A-game. I just get tired of the anti-effort attitude. Where people have animosity towards someone who is blatantly trying to think of something outside of themselves. And how ironic, this post is about me. It's about what I think and feel.

That's a very traditionally feminine viewpoint; to emphasize the personal communication and sharing of feelings and experiences and rate that higher than discussions about things outside of the immediate community.

I've lost myself...what was I saying??

[Nuzzolese]

Yeah, get out of your lofty meaningless thoughts and back into the real world of actions and reactions! But don't dwell down there either because that doesn't inspire anything. You need a balance.

[Nuzzolese]

Personal experiences give authenticity to people and a reference point to go off on more metaphysical ideas so I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. It's just that the baby is very small, and there's a lot of bathwater. But it's a good baby. :)

[Lyman Zerga]

nice but i dont read long posts

[Nuzzolese]

nice but i dont read long posts

That's okay, I wasn't writing it to you.

[Lyman Zerga]

thats okay, it's just my board job to throw in stupid comments

[fucktopgirl]

Anyway,if you look closely,this board is like a micro reproduction of the outside world,somehow!YOU got people with hight paying job/low paying,well emancipate and fully active in this society;there here people who are lost and looking for themsleves;teenager who have anxiety attack in relation with this world;peoplesuffering from moronity;people who think they are the "shit" and popular,people who got a hight IQ and talkling about how they boxer need a wash is not enought stimulating.

I believe that it is what it is.YOu got a melting pot here and yes people could sometime try harder to make more sense and try to reach a certain level of intelligence,maybe they can but just dont want to.Like NUzzo said,some people want to come here just to be entertained and dont want to push to hard they gray matter.

If you think this place lack of content ,then just add yours bit of thoughs in it!Nothing is perfect and surely not this board either!Another thing too is taking ourselves too seriuosly;here its not a place where a revolution of the mind could happen,although maybe interessting conversation(as it did happen)can wake the fuck up people who sleep to gaz!Still,we are here together to exchange on our life and experience on differents levels not just intellectual or just stupid.Man ,it is a together,,yin/yang,,there is a balance somehow to reach and achieve.

ouch,my brain is bleeding now,hehehe:D

[Nuzzolese]

Zippo is always questioning, questioning, questioning. I like that about her. It does make her hard to reach though. I mean, people who question and discuss nothing but throw in a few simple lines about themselves are hard to relate to also.

And yes, it is about relating to someone. No matter what you're talking about - your bedsheets, what you eat for dinner, the reasons teachers pick on boys in class, the gas prices - you are always trying to relate to the person or else it's not reallt a conversation it's just trying to cultivate an online personality, more concerned with having yourself be accurately understood than trying to understand anyone else.

So what I'm saying is it is nice when someone listens instead of just waiting for their cue to reveal more about themselves.

You could have a thread about...so called slutty clothing. And that could inspire arguements/discussion about what is slutty and can you define someone like that by their clothing and is she asking for it and who decides what is stylish and what is attractive vs what is cheap........and that's great!

Unless people just don't add anything to it and simply say. "I usually wear jeans, unless I'm going out at night then I wear a sexy skirt"

I mean...imagine if the conversation was happening in person, outloud. Would you really say that? Don't you think people would freeze and stare at you and the sound of crickets would echo through the air at your meaningless, off the point remark? One would almost be expecting you to be absentmindedly powdering your nose in the mirror, and fluffing your hair, as you said that comment. Like you heard the word "clothes" and blurted out the first thing that came to mind.

I think this is what Zippo is impatient with. That, and that people make fun of her or ignore her for not bringing the issue down to the personal level.

[Bob]

i don't find my dog's death that boring quite honestly

[ericlee]

yet one little stupid one liner compared to 5 paragraphs of piss and moan is so much easier to avoid if you don't want to read it.

[Freebasser]

i don't find my dog's death that boring quite honestly

Well Ace thought it was so boring that he actually posted in it afterwards.

[Lyman Zerga]

haha :(

[Ace42X]

i don't find my dog's death that boring quite honestly

Is this irony? 'Cause I don't deny that the numerous people posting about the banalities of their *own* lives find it incredibly important.

yet one little stupid one liner compared to 5 paragraphs of piss and moan is so much easier to avoid if you don't want to read it.

5 paragraphs of on-topic "piss and moan" that is directly relevent to the subject in hand. Also, if you use the handy "ignore" function, the posts are EXACTLY the same size (and thus, presumably, equally easy to avoid) as a one-liner.

Lastly, lengthy posts take slightly longer to construct than an inane one-liner, and as such they are "easier to avoid" because there needs must be less of them, and more spread out. Scrolling past one post in a thread is easy, scrolling past a dozen of them, any one of which might be relevent, before having to move onto the next page, is quite another. When a "5 paragraph piss and moan" is the only post on an entire page, you might have a point.

Well Ace thought it was so boring that he actually posted in it afterwards.

I know you are desperate to try and score some points back after I slammed you in a hurt-locker earlier, but at least try to put some effort into your bitching. If you go back, you'll see that thread was one in a list of which I found to be *self-absorbed*, not "boring" specifically. And it was *only* one of a large list. And I said I picked the list arbitrarily, AND I said I don't find Bob to be a particularly bad poster.

Also, if you have been reading this thread, rather than just waiting for an opportunity to jump in and feebley cuss me, you'd see that most people here have been saying "if you want raise the level of conversation in the forum, just post something more interesting." So, running contrary to your retort, it COULD just mean that the boringness of the thread spurred me to "lift it" with a posting from myself.

While this was not the case here, and my post in that thread was pretty dull, due to not wanting to change the subject and talk at length about post-apocalyptic literature, it doesn't actually refute or contradict anything that I have said.

I said that the shitness of the posters here is contagious, and I said that none of us are innocent of this, and it is precisely because the forum is largely shit that it inspires shitness. So, really, all you are doing is proving my point.

<deep breath>

So, Freebaser, let's look at this from the top:

You're boring, you post inane crap, and as such your retorts are invariably boring and crap.

Seriously, shut up and I might not have to keep highlighting what a feeble cock-sucker you are.

[Bob]

Is this irony? 'Cause I don't deny that the numerous people posting about the banalities of their *own* lives find it incredibly important.



you're right. it was really inconsiderate of me to bother you and everyone else with a thread like that. i'm so sorry. i can be so rude sometimes.

[Echewta]

Today I had fish for lunch for christ's sake.

[Ace42X]

you're right. it was really inconsiderate of me to bother you and everyone else with a thread like that. i'm so sorry. i can be so rude sometimes.

Are you looking for a fight? I have stressed, repeatedly, that the dog thread was just one of a list of threads that were self-concerned, nothing more. I said, quite clearly, that the list was arbitrary, and thus not a reflection of quality.

So I am not sure if people being fixated on that one thread in particular is because they are dense, being peevish, or that they are so desperate to make a point that they'll side-step what is actually being said and go for a straw-man.

My point with my previous post was that of course a thread starter is going to think the subject is important, otherwise they wouldn't bother posting it in the first place. But, as such, they are biased. It was a generalisation, and not pointed at you, or your thread specifically. Now, if you think it applies to you, as your defensive reply would suggest, that is your own culpability talking, not me accusing you.

[Nuzzolese]

Today I had fish for lunch for christ's sake.

Are you trying to undermine what I've been saying?

[Echewta]

Always Nuzz. I'm always digging below you waiting for you to fall.

[Ace42X]

Are you trying to undermine what I've been saying?

That's the point I am making, about mediocrity. Despite dozens of people making precisely the same joke ("Hyuck, I know what will be funny, saying something boring and banal in a thread criticising the boring and banal! I are just like Monty Python!")

Echewta, and others, still think it will be "funny" to chime in with the exact same bollocks. It was dull and predictable the FIRST time.

Is it stupidity or egotism that spurs these people on to feel that their contribution "brings" something to the discussion? I dunno, but it's lame.

[Echewta]

I'm so worried now about how you think of me Ace. My day is simply ruined.

[Ace42X]

I'm so worried now about how you think of me Ace. My day is simply ruined.

And again, the "I don't care, I have a life" retort. It doesn't bother you that everything you say is instantly forgetable? It's only purpose is to tell the few people here who have talked to you long enough to care, that you are still alive?

[Nuzzolese]

It's only purpose is to tell the few people here who have talked to you long enough to care, that you are still alive?

I just realized that's basically my only reason for interacting with the public at all. :(

Still here, folks. Still kickin'!

[Echewta]

Forgetable to you, treasured by others.

I KNOW RIGHT? LOL RIGHT? Go to Politics if you want to be so stiff.

[Ace42X]

I just realized that's basically my only reason for interacting with the public at all!

Awww Nuzz, I find most of your posts to be interesting and worthwhile, and I don't know you at all.

[Nuzzolese]

Thanks, Ace! I try sometimes.

Echewta! What are you talking about?
See that's the problem with the childrens today, thinking politics is boring and dull and stiff. And where do you go if you want to be stiff and not talk about politics?
You know how it is when you're trying to talk about something that's interesting to you and someone comes in and farts (skye) and makes a joke and acts all drunk and says "hey let's loosen this party up and get naked?!" Okay that was a pretty Sitcom style bad impression of an alcoholic crashing his own intervention, but you see how it's rude and tiresome and it makes you think you can't talk to some people?

[Echewta]

go to the politics board with that dribble. You can see your boyfriend Ace and work on getting the polls pulled out.

[Bob]

Thanks, Ace! I try sometimes.

Echewta! What are you talking about?
See that's the problem with the childrens today, thinking politics is boring and dull and stiff. And where do you go if you want to be stiff and not talk about politics?

that's why i recommend we change "general political" to "general intellectual" or some kind of debate and discussion type place, and change "beastie free" to "the goddamn shithouse" or whatever you want to call it. then there's a place for people to be smart n' shit and another place for people to exercise their virtual defecation.

people like to make self absorbing posts, we're not going to be a bunch of socrates', at least not anytime soon. with my plan, we can at least be boring and self-fellating without bothering anybody.

You know how it is when you're trying to talk about something that's interesting to you and someone comes in and farts (skye) and makes a joke and acts all drunk and says "hey let's loosen this party up and get naked?!" Okay that was a pretty Sitcom style bad impression of an alcoholic crashing his own intervention, but you see how it's rude and tiresome and it makes you think you can't talk to some people?


see, if we split the board in two, then this wouldn't be a problem. nobody would wander over to the smart shack just to be a silly jerk, and the smart people would know better than to try to be smart in the dumb half of the board.

complaining about retarded posts in BF is like going to the espn.com forums (i assume they have forums) and complaining that they talk about sports too much. this is what we do here. it's like if i tried to make a political post in the cooking forum and people started posting hilariously politics-related recipes. what did i think was gonna happen?

general political is the place to go for intellegent discussion, there's no doubt about that, but limiting it to discussion about politics is a little too specific, i think. let's just make it a general intellectual discussion forum. beastie-free can be where you go for predictable one-liners, if you're into that kind of thing (which alot of us seem to be)

[Ace42X]

Forgetable to you, treasured by others.

And on that note, I will end my posting here with this:

Yes, there is no joke anymore. There is none, you lost the ability to think, so fuck you. Go back to Gallagher, 'cause that's where you belong you yuppie pieces of shit. Fuck you, fuck you all America. Go Saddam, nuke everybody, fuck all of you.

"haha" - Jesus.

You're proving my point, that's the problem. The whole point is about mediocrity, but as I look around me I understand that some of you aren't going to get it.

"What do you mean, Freebaser's funny! He's got 8,000 posts!"
Baaaaaa
"Like I care what YOU think!"

You can't hear how phony that is? Please tell me you can see how much these guys suck?

"But Ace, he's one of the forum's most recognised people. That means he is good in our culture!"

There are no jokes, sir. I'll give you all a good reference for another forum, just get the fuck out.

You know the problem with you people, dudes, is this. The fact that you don't get sensible posting or like it is fine. The fact that you want to bring it down for everybody else, that's why you are cocksuckers.

Do you ever go to Eric Clapton concerts with your own guitar?
"Hey, Eric, you have you ever heard this one? <strums Smoke on the Water>
Ever heard that one Eric? Does it bother anyone that I'm playing along too?
I mean this whole forum is ME right? Where you make a post and suddenly you're the centre of attention? You are the people who spend time thinking, and writing down eloquent concepts, just so that I can get drunk and ruin other people's threads?"

Is this how it works Beasties Free?

Mooo! Baaa!

That's right you fucking goat-people. Fuck off, I'm moving to another forum. I know why you all think this forum is "funny" - 'cause in your eyes this place is a typical social situation.

"What do you mean Ace? We're the funniest people on the Internet!"
That's right sheep people. Baaaa!
"That's what we're supposed to believe, because that's what we keep telling each other."

That rant was brought to your courtesy of Bill Hicks.

[Nuzzolese]

that's why i recommend we change "general political" to "general intellectual" or some kind of debate and discussion type place, and change "beastie free" to "the goddamn shithouse" or whatever you want to call it. then there's a place for people to be smart n' shit and another place for people to exercise their virtual defecation.

people like to make self absorbing posts, we're not going to be a bunch of socrates', at least not anytime soon. with my plan, we can at least be boring and self-fellating without bothering anybody.


That's a good idea.

[Nuzzolese]

go to the politics board with that dribble. You can see your boyfriend Ace and work on getting the polls pulled out.

You don't even read anything I say, do you? You just see a long post of mine next to a long post of someone else's and you assume I'm saying the same thing.

[Echewta]

I do read what you are saying but i dont take anything seriously so my post wasn't meant to be serious at all. Just flat, unfunny, typical, predictable, lolable and boring.

[Nuzzolese]

I do read what you are saying but i dont take anything seriously so my post wasn't meant to be serious at all. Just flat, unfunny, typical, predictable, lolable and boring.

And another Monday oozes by. I'm depressed. And I'm thinking about Bob's dog. And I miss having a dog. I miss Bob having a dog.

[TAL]

Wow, even Bill Hicks knew about Freebasser.

[Bob]

I do read what you are saying but i dont take anything seriously so my post wasn't meant to be serious at all. Just flat, unfunny, typical, predictable, lolable and boring.

and this is why i like it here

[Echewta]

I love you Bob and dont you EVER forget it.

[Freebasser]

So, Freebaser, let's look at this from the top:

You're boring, you post inane crap, and as such your retorts are invariably boring and crap.

Seriously, shut up and I might not have to keep highlighting what a feeble cock-sucker you are.

Now THIS is exactly the kind of intellectual post we need, people! (y)

[Qdrop]

Short of leaving the whole forum in a fit of pique,

it's the only way.

trust me.

[Qdrop]

You're proving my point, that's the problem. The whole point is about mediocrity, but as I look around me I understand that some of you aren't going to get it.

[...]
You can't hear how phony that is? Please tell me you can see how much these guys suck?

"But Ace, he's one of the forum's most recognised people. That means he is good in our culture!"

There are no jokes, sir. I'll give you all a good reference for another forum, just get the fuck out.

You know the problem with you people, dudes, is this. The fact that you don't get sensible posting or like it is fine. The fact that you want to bring it down for everybody else, that's why you are cocksuckers.

Is this how it works Beasties Free?

That's right you fucking goat-people. Fuck off, I'm moving to another forum. I know why you all think this forum is "funny" - 'cause in your eyes this place is a typical social situation.

"What do you mean Ace? We're the funniest people on the Internet!"
That's right sheep people. Baaaa!
"That's what we're supposed to believe, because that's what we keep telling each other."


all valid, accurate points.
and they all fall on virtually deaf ears...because you have already been labeled an "asshold sherrif". a parody.

greener pastures, Ace.

[Randetica]

Now THIS is exactly the kind of intellectual post we need, people! (y)

by the way
happy birthday freebasser!

[DandyFop]

What the fuck happened in here? I missed all this shit when I was trying to avoid homework and I could have been e-fighting the whole time! Dammit!

I have to say, I'm happy that the Echewta Defamation League no longer has to wait in the dark. Let the revolution begin!

[Nuzzolese]

GP is too serious and BF is too silly - for me. I need a new crowd I guess.

[DandyFop]

Oh god Nuzz...no...you're one of the few that can actually stimulate my brain cells. If you leave I'll just slowly decline.

[Qdrop]

GP is too serious and BF is too silly - for me. I need a new crowd I guess.

agreed. we need a happy medium.

i like bob's idea: general intellectual. but that would come off as elitist.
i'm auditioning new message boards too.

[DandyFop]

Nobody uses the Tibet section, just set up camp there.

[fucktopgirl]

i'll bring the tee-pee!

[Kid Presentable]

agreed. we need a happy medium.

i like bob's idea: general intellectual. but that would come off as elitist.
i'm auditioning new message boards too.
Allhiphop, and Wutangcorp are much better than Beastie Free. But Other Music here pwns most others. Why don't I fuck off there, then? Done.

[zippo]

im sorry, all i wanted was more of another type of communication, a more significative one, a stronger one...between us all...its the fault of the people that failed to understand what i was asking for. and its a shame you all took it as something negative when it was supposed to be a curtain being opened to let more of the sunlight in. it was supposed to be an encouraging pat on the back, something we could all indulge in together, not something that made anyone feel insulted.

*maybe sort of gives up*

[iceygirl]

dont apologize to the high strung people around here zippo. if people didnt see you were only trying to offer them the idea of challenging themselves and initiating and participating in worthwhile topics, that isnt your fault.

how is your lover?

[zippo]

dont apologize to the high strung people around here zippo. if people didnt see you were only trying to offer them the idea of challenging themselves and initiating and participating in worthwhile topics, that isnt your fault.

how is your lover?

i apologized to how the situation sort of ended up, it makes me sort of sad.

hes wonderful, incredible, and leaving. (lets just leave it there)

[Nuzzolese]

I haven't read all of this thread, because quite frankly, who would want to? What a bunch of pompous, sniveling cry-babies! "I'm too good for the BF, but I can't have any fun in GP, oh whoa is me!" Here is an idea, do both, and get the fuck over yourselves.

Thanks for your input. As always, well respected.

[mickill]

Mooo! Baaa!

That's right you fucking goat-people. Fuck off, I'm moving to another forum..

You know, for a scholarly individual like yourself, I'd have to say that your comprehension of basic animal sounds is substandard at best.

[iceygirl]

feel sad for people that want to challenge themselves 0% of the time

dont you have a hunch that some of them are that way in their actual life? like i know and understand how having a stressful job where you use 100% of your brain power makes you want to just blahblahblah on your downtime, but....i dunno.... you know people who are satisfied just exisiting in their life and not really LIVING life. i would venture to say that a lot of people who post regularly here are that way.

[enree erzweglle]

im sorry, all i wanted was more of another type of communication, a more significative one, a stronger one...between us all...its the fault of the people that failed to understand what i was asking for. and its a shame you all took it as something negative when it was supposed to be a curtain being opened to let more of the sunlight in. it was supposed to be an encouraging pat on the back, something we could all indulge in together, not something that made anyone feel insulted.

*maybe sort of gives up*I got into this thread and then left it and haven't stuck with it. I didn't read the middle or end bits except for your post ^^^ zippo. When I read this thread at first, though, I did take it just as you intended--an invitation to maybe be or do something bigger and brighter, challenging.

This is a microcosm, so it's going to bring ebbs/flows, trends that come with bigger systems. It's next to impossible to affect sweeping change. I know that and it's still hard [for me] to see when people are cruel or uncaring (accepting that is my personal challenge) and I also kind of hate to waste time each day on something that doesn't help me to learn something. So when I'm here and it's mean/cruel and inane and when it's those things for long stretches at a go, I rethink coming here. But when things have been that way for awhile, they've usually turned over again, usually by accident or in some unexpected or unpredictable way. That's why I've come back.

The last time when I was gone for a couple of months, the first thread I saw when I came back was about who had the best ass. The next thread after some other break was about penis size. :)

[Freebasser]

That's right you fucking goat-people. Fuck off, I'm moving to another forum.


And again, the "I don't care, I have a life" retort

fin

[Echewta]

Its funny. People just have to take the board for what its worth. There are plenty of people who can say alot and mean nothing. Plenty who can say alot and mean everything. Say little mean alot, say little and mean squat. If you are expecting things from this board, besides entertainment and perhaps getting laid long distance, then you only bring it on yourself.
I wasn't serious about the poll and politics forum with Nuzz and Ace etc. But some took it that way and I certainly have to snicker. For more serious discussions with me, perhaps Nuzz and Ace would like to meet over some pie down the street at this place I know of. And not just for Jesus's sake.

[enree erzweglle]

If you are expecting things from this board, besides entertainment and perhaps getting laid long distance, then you only bring it on yourself.
I wasn't serious about the poll and politics forum with Nuzz and Ace etc.Maybe it's good that I didn't read the middle bits. :)

I do think that more can happen on a forum like this than just polls/entertainment-related stuff and whatever else you said. (I've seen some interesting discussions here and certainly elsewhere online. It just can't be dictated/mandated.)

[Echewta]

Thats right. Dictated or mandated. Not that it can't happen but don't expect it to and don't be pissed off when others come in to rain on the parade of deep thoughts and emotions. Bring an umbrella and carry on.

[enree erzweglle]

Thats right. Dictated or mandated. Not that it can't happen but don't expect it to and don't be pissed off when others come in to rain on the parade of deep thoughts and emotions. Bring an umbrella and carry on.I guess I should go back and read the rest of the thread because it would be odd to suggest that anyone mandate/dictate anything. Like moderated newsgroups: not usually a good thing in a social setting. Maybe people were just expressing their dismay when that the raining-down stuff happens.

I have a report to edit. :)

[chrisd]

leo strauss wrote so few books cause he considered himself a socratic philosopher