'narcissistic personality disorder'

[vickista]

anyone know what it is?


i was watching Enough Rope- aussie version of parkinson. and he was interviewing an author -DBC Pierre- who had it and they were tlking about what happened before he became famous an how he struggled etc. and they had the simptoms: ANDREW DENTON: When you went into therapy I think you were diagnosed with a thing called 'narcissistic personality disorder', which all sounds very technical. What is it?



DBC PIERRE: Well, the disorder itself is, in my case, related to exactly what I was saying. It relates to being consumed by unrealistic dreams and being taken with them to such an extent that your ordinary functioning in life is impeded. That is to say, you're giving over your energies to imagining that you're going to have some kind of unlimited success and you'll find unlimited love. It's narcissistic in the sense of, I guess, being egocentric, being carried away with yourself. With narcissism as well, you'd be a very good liar and so you'd deceive everyone. You'd deceive yourself as well and you're, sort of, half living in a dream world. Which, if you throw in a drug habit, that's probably a fairly accurate view





and i was like OMG! Thats just like me! i dont have a drug problem etc. but i get a bit carried away with dreams and hopes etc. coz i like them better then reality.- now im scared and i think i have 'narcissistic personality disorder'.:( (n)

[Ace42X]

It also features in "Me, Myself and Irene." Like MPD and Schizophrenia, it is often misrepresented in the media. It is very similar to acute psychopathology / sociopathology. The individual's superiority complex makes them think they are "above" society's rules, etc and that other people's needs, wants, feelings, lives are "insignificant" compared to their own. Very nasty.

[Rancid_Beasties]

Sounds pretty much like being ultra self-absorbed

[zorra_chiflada]

yeah, vickista, do you honestly think that you are a completely self-absorbed, selfish person with no concern for anyone else in the world?
if you were like that, i doubt if you would know it.

[tracky]

I don't think it's really related to having hopes and dreams, but more so relates to getting what you want and not caring who you trample in the process.

[vickista]

yeah, vickista, do you honestly think that you are a completely self-absorbed, selfish person with no concern for anyone else in the world?
if you were like that, i doubt if you would know it.

well now that u and ace said all that i dont think so anymore. but yeah your right they wouldnt now it would they coz if they did then it wouldnt be a problem coz they'd get help.

but when the dude on enough rope did it he said how he was in alot of debt etc. and how he just imagined how he'd just "magically pull a rabbit out of a hat" and he'd be successful and he wouldnt have to worry about it etc. i do that all the time where if things arent going well instead of trying to make them better i just imagine them getting better and ignore the problem for as long as i can ill ignore it by everytime its brought up thinking of my little dream. and its alot like the guy described it kinda rattled me coz wen he was saying it i knew EXACTLY what he meant.

[Kid Presentable]

I seem to meet that criteria. And someone in my family has unrealistic expectations of life.

[Ace42X]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

[vickista]

i went to the wikipedia thing and i read it and it wasnt like me very much but it said that narcissistic personality disorder was in cluster be of personality disorders along with a few i cant remember and 'borderline personality disorder' and i read the thing and in the bit where it said you have to heve 5 or more of these symptoms for a diagnosis there where 9 thingies and i had seven of them!
:(
what if i have 'borderline personality disorder'

[zorra_chiflada]

"borderline personality disorder" is a load of horse shit. all of those "personality disorders" were a big thing in the mid 20th century. the symptoms that you answered to were probably so vague that they'd apply to everyone.
nowadays i don't think they hold much stock unless you are suffering from serious disorder that affects your daily life.

[Rancid_Beasties]

I think you have the "I think too much for a 13 year old girl who knows crap all about the world and who thinks everything is against her" disorder.

I could be wrong, you could have a recognised mental disorder, but you probably are just trying to find a disorder to excuse your behavior when the fact remains that you are a normal 13 year old with normal fears and a generally normal life.

[vickista]

1.frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.

2.a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

3.identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

4.impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)

5.recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior

6.affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)

7.chronic feelings of emptiness.

8.inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)

9.transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

those are the symptoms the ones i can strongly relate to are orange.

[vickista]

I think you have the "I think too much for a 13 year old girl who knows crap all about the world and who thinks everything is against her" disorder.

I could be wrong, you could have a recognised mental disorder, but you probably are just trying to find a disorder to excuse your behavior when the fact remains that you are a normal 13 year old with normal fears and a generally normal life.


but what behavior would i be trying to excuse?

[zorra_chiflada]

those are the symptoms the ones i can strongly relate to are orange.

welcome to life as a teenager.

[Rancid_Beasties]

but what behavior would i be trying to excuse?
Lets see:

Drinking
Bullying/disowning friends
Being self absorbed (for instance thinking you're smarter than anyone else)
Being depressed
Having to surround yourself with friends to be happy

This is pretty normal behavior for a teenager "trying to find their place in the world", as cliched as that sounds

[ms.peachy]

R_B is right, vicks. I know it would, in some ways, be really nice to be able to put a label on "Why I'm This Way" and have it explain everything, but seriously, you are actually just being a young teenager. You may or may not be slightly more sensitive or precocious than others, but your feelings are all quite normal. Trying to put a label of a 'disorder' on it is actually you not wanting to take responsibility for your own actions - in other words, you want to be able to say, "I can't help it that I act this way, I have blahblahblah syndrome". It's understandable - we'd all like to be able at times to evade the responsibilities that come along with being an adult. But, this is what growing up is, girl - it's a minefield, but it is, I assure you, temporary. It will only feel like forever.

[vickista]

Lets see:

Drinking
Bullying/disowning friends
Being self absorbed (for instance thinking you're smarter than anyone else)
Being depressed
Having to surround yourself with friends to be happy

This is pretty normal behavior for a teenager "trying to find their place in the world", as cliched as that sounds

ok 1st of all i didnt bully/disown anyone.i was nasty but thats all.
2nd i dont think im smarter than anyone else- i think i have intelectual advantiges in SOME areas over SOME people but then thats everyone isnt it.

and i admit that i've been depressed and that i DID drink but im not saying any of it was because of a disorder im just saying there where alot of things in that article that seemed to "click" with me. and im not saying its not adolesence it probubly is. and as far as This is pretty normal behavior for a teenager "trying to find their place in the world", as cliched as that sounds well im not disagreeing and i know that is a big part of it but im just saying maybe thats not ALL it is.

[zorra_chiflada]

everyone teenager thinks they're different to everybody else and that nobody understands them.

[vickista]

R_B is right, vicks. I know it would, in some ways, be really nice to be able to put a label on "Why I'm This Way" and have it explain everything, but seriously, you are actually just being a young teenager. You may or may not be slightly more sensitive or precocious than others, but your feelings are all quite normal. Trying to put a label of a 'disorder' on it is actually you not wanting to take responsibility for your own actions - in other words, you want to be able to say, "I can't help it that I act this way, I have blahblahblah syndrome". It's understandable - we'd all like to be able at times to evade the responsibilities that come along with being an adult. But, this is what growing up is, girl - it's a minefield, but it is, I assure you, temporary. It will only feel like forever.


ur kind of right, i do wanna put a label on "Why I'm This Way" but not like that. im not gonna do shit and then be all i cant help it i have a disorder. i just thought when i read that shit and it made so much sense i just kinda thought, maybe i wasnt as fucked up as everyone else tells me i am(not u guys) maybe there was a reason and if it was the reason then maybe there would be a doctor or someone who understands it to help me out.

[enree erzweglle]

The individual's superiority complex makes them think they are "above" society's rules, etc and that other people's needs, wants, feelings, lives are "insignificant" compared to their own. Very nasty.Yes and it's no fun once you realize that someone that you know is this way. It takes a whole lot of yourself to befriend a person like that and to stick out the friendship for the long run. When you find fault with them or even simply accuse them of some thing--no matter how tactfully you do this--they usually fly out of kilter and externalize it all, blaming everyone but themselves. About the only way to survive in a friendship with someone like that is to get really good at currying favor with them--you have to do a lot of ego-stroking and be consistent about that, and you have to put each of your own needs and concerns way, way off to the side.

Most people can't do that ^^^ for someone else indefinitely--my observation/experience is that people who are narcissistic in the way we're talking about usually don't have too many long-term friends. It's sad, really, because the nature of the problem is vicious--you can't help them (they deem you too lowly for that) and they won't help themselves (they deem themselves too lofty for that).

[fucktopgirl]

Everybody is narcissist at some extent,,,,If you where a real extrem case,you would even realise it and write this thread.

BUt Vickista,you are young and are confronted with the fact of growing and understanding the world around you.Being teenager come with a lots of mixed up emotions at time and it is normal because you are in the process of forging yourself/opinions/views.You seem to be really smart somehow,just let yourself be and chill out a bit!