Here's a Job Americans Would Do...

[SobaViolence]

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0527-27.htm

America has a nursing shortage, so Republican Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas has the perfect solution: imports. His provision in the Senate's immigration bill would waive the ceiling on the number of foreign nurses who can immigrate. Most come from poorer countries like the Philippines and India.

According to The New York Times, which first reported on this little-noticed provision, the American Hospital Association reports about 118,000 vacancies for nurses, and the federal government projects a nurse shortage of 800,000 by 2020.

Outsourcing is killing plenty of American jobs. But nursing is a good job that can't be outsourced, because the patients are here. Hey, no problem. We'll just in-source foreign workers.

[EN[i]GMA]

So you're opposed to helping poor, oppressed minorities from other countries?

Gotcha.

[Funkaloyd]

A brain drain isn't going to help the rest of the "poor, oppressed minorities" in those countries.

[EN[i]GMA]

I believe the 'brain drain' theory is high contentious.

People leaving and becoming successful often send money back to their countries, more money than they would have made by staying.

You can't simply say that a few people leaving will further wreck the country.

[Funkaloyd]

I think an argument could be made that it would negatively affect a nation, especially in the case of an important and education specific trade like nursing.

How much do nurses make, and how much of that could they spare to save or send to family? I doubt they'd be able to send back more than they'd make if they stayed.

Incidentally, I'm thinking of becoming a nurse of sorts. "Medical Assistant", rather.

[EN[i]GMA]

I think an argument could be made that it would negatively affect a nation, especially in the case of an important and education specific trade like nursing.

It's certainly possible.

But it still doesn't explain how it's ethical to keep them trapped in their home country 'for their own good, but really for ours'.

Probably because it isn't ethical.


How much do nurses make, and how much of that could they spare to save or send to family? I doubt they'd be able to send back more than they'd make if they stayed.

Presumably they would not move if they were not making a considerable amount more than they would by staying.

[SobaViolence]

enigma, the article stated that the US should invest in training nurses domestically and making it possible for more nurses to come up.

and brain drain happens.
Canada is a perfect example.

[Funkaloyd]

If they stayed, then 100% of their income would go into their home country's economy.

If you can find moral justification for tariffs, then it's not hard to find such justification for immigration limitations. But you have to have a protectionist outlook; which is why those anti-socialist redneck's patrolling your Southern border are so absurdly stupid.

[EN[i]GMA]

enigma, the article stated that the US should invest in training nurses domestically and making it possible for more nurses to come up.


And?

Are Americans 'better' than foreigners?

Is that in there in the Constitution or something -- Americans should be nurses and not Indians?


and brain drain happens.
Canada is a perfect example.

Brain drain happens...for a reason.

It's not a fact of nature; it can be prevented.

Maybe Canada could work on preventing it.

[EN[i]GMA]

If they stayed, then 100% of their income would go into their home country's economy.

100% of their significantly reduced income.


If you can find moral justification for tariffs, then it's not hard to find such justification for immigration limitations.

Except I can't find moral justifications for tariffs.

But you have to have a protectionist outlook; which is why those anti-socialist redneck's patrolling your Southern border are so absurdly stupid.

I support immigration and I'm against trade barriers; I'm against nationalist barriers entirely, as a matter of principal.