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zorra_chiflada
06-10-2006, 06:48 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schadenfreude
enjoyment out of other's misery.
discuss
ms.peachy
06-10-2006, 06:57 AM
It's not nice, but it's something we all fall into now and again I think. In a way, maybe it has to do with our sense of justice or vengeance? For example, if you look at the kind of person who regularly gloats at the misfortunes of others, they're probably also the sort who think that the whole world has screwed them over somehow and that they are 'owed' something. So when they see someone else getting screwed, they feel in some way like they're getting their own back (sort of a "misery loves company" kind of a thing). But even for the sunny optomist, there are moments when you see someone getting what you might feel is a bit of commupance and you think "ha ha, serves you right ya bastard" and revel in that a bit.
I probably haven't explained that very well, but brain no working good these days as no long sleep getting feeding all hours baby day and night.
Gareth
06-10-2006, 06:58 AM
i'm pretty sure they discussed that word on boston legal
zorra_chiflada
06-10-2006, 07:00 AM
i'm not gonna lie, i feel it a lot.
ericlee
06-10-2006, 07:14 AM
That's my (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/town/NelsonHaha.gif) favorite word.
zorra_chiflada
06-10-2006, 07:16 AM
That's my (http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/town/NelsonHaha.gif) favorite word.
YES!!
ms.peachy
06-10-2006, 07:17 AM
i'm not gonna lie, i feel it a lot.
zorra can I ask, I was about to say something kind of serious but before I do I just want to ask, are you meaning this to be like a lighthearted jokey kind of thread, or is this actually something that's bothering you/weighin on your mind?
zorra_chiflada
06-10-2006, 07:19 AM
zorra can I ask, I was about to say something kind of serious but before I do I just want to ask, are you meaning this to be like a lighthearted jokey kind of thread, or is this actually something that's bothering you/weighin on your mind?
oh well, a bit of both i suppose. i like to keep a lighthearted attitude about some things i clearly have problems/issues with.
ms.peachy
06-10-2006, 07:25 AM
Ok then. Please try to take what I'm going to say in the spirit with which it's intended. I know you think that I'm just a bitch who argues with you and that I dislike you or don't respect you, but that's actually not true. Well, I am a bitch, that part's true, but I don't argue with you because I dislike you or don't repsect you. But, I just don't want whatever history we have to cloud what I'm gonna say now, because I'm being sincere, OK?
I think if you (general rhetorical everyman you, not YOU you necessarily, although if the shoe fits etc etc) are finding yourself kind of down about things, it's quite easy to fall into feeling 'good' about others feeling bad, and you need to examine what's going on in your life that makes it easier for you to be happy about bad things happening to other people than about good things that are happening to you.
Hey but in the meantime, here's a little something to make you smile:while I was typing this, I lost track of time and totally burned my bagel, and it was the last one, and now no bagel for me. :) Damn it.
zorra_chiflada
06-10-2006, 07:30 AM
haha no bagels!!! hahaaa
yeah, i have kinda become a bitch caricature of myself, if you know what i mean. it's not so much me feeling depressed, but moreso me feeling more comfortable in this persona. and i'm stubborn, and unwilling to just change.
it's not like other people's misery makes me feel good, it's more like this is the person i've made myself into, and i'll act/think accordingly.
ms.peachy
06-10-2006, 07:38 AM
I think most people go through periods where we feel more cynical and 'down' than others, and that's when it becomes easier for this schadenfreude business to creep in. It's not, as you pointed out, depression per se, it's just, you know, feeling a bit bummed out with the world on a personal level, and then just getting a bit of a guilty pleasure out of someone else's misfortune. The danger is if it becomes your whole 'way of being' in the world, if you see what I mean, where nothing of your own good makes you happy and you think life it just shit, and the only thing you can enjoy is other people's pain. But I don't think that is what happens most of the time - we go through phases.
fucktopgirl
06-10-2006, 08:53 AM
I know somebody who suffer from that but steady. Everytime me and David had problems about car or money or whatever, YOU did see that he was enjoying it. And this guy is like that all the time with everybody, hopefully shit will hit the fan for him one day and karma will do the "pay back time"!
THis sensation to feel good about people who are struggling is surely due to the fact that presently in your life everything sucks, so then seeing somebody in a bad situation make you feel better as you know you are not alone in that shit or something.
BUt
I have to say that i enjoy seeing people falling or bumping their head on objects, like funny video or like sports disasters,that kind of show!THIs is like a schadenfreude at a different scale i suppose!
SobaViolence
06-10-2006, 10:02 AM
zorra's a sweetheart.
and a n3rd.
<POOP3
befsquire
06-10-2006, 10:19 AM
i don't really enjoy the misery of others, because i feel like i've been there before and i know where they're coming from. for example, i NEVER laugh at people stuck on the side of the road, no matter what kind of car they drive, because i know i'm likely to have that happen to me (and it did recently happen to me on the turnpike).
if someone does something really shitty to me, i know that one day something similar will likely happen to them because that's pretty much how people operate, but i don't wish it upon them and i don't enjoy it when it happens to them, i just think "well, now you know" and i go on about my day as usual.
Funky Pepp
06-10-2006, 10:21 AM
in germany we also say: "schadenfreude ist die scönste freude"
which means that schadenfreude is the nicest form of joy. :p
Lo_Lyfe
06-10-2006, 11:28 AM
Yo, I rhyme shadenfreude with arkanoid.
I love the misery of normal peeps, like suits and shit. I hate the misery of starvin kids and shit, and can't help but wonder why. how can people choose the misery they enjoy?
Ace42X
06-10-2006, 02:39 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Schadenfreude
The word is in the zeitgeist. Zeitgiest was in the zeitgeist in the late 90s. Now it is passé.
like2_drink
06-10-2006, 03:23 PM
perfect! stephen colbert had this as " the word " i believe sometime ago, i've been trying to think of it ever since.
crazy thing that only the germans have a word for it eh
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