Blue pill or red pill?

[ma belle]

which would you have taken?

[Freebasser]

If I'd have known how shitty the sequels were going to be, I'd have taken a fuckin' cyanide pill.

[ma belle]

it was only a film - not worth dying for!

[Bob]

if i'd known i'd be able to fly and dodge bullets and do all the cool kung fu shit, then i'd take the blue pill. otherwise probably the red pill. i'm a pretty laid back guy, let someone else save the world. being a battery ain't so bad, when you look at it

[Sarky Devotchka]

I never saw the matrix.

[ma belle]

ooops! its the red pill that brought about extreme reality! :)

but i really meant are you happy with your perceptions the way they are and believe them to be the total 'truth' or would you jump at an offered opportunity to strip away all the illusion about this real 2006 earth world (ie nothing to do with a film) if the chance arose.

i posted this because a few messages seem to be concerned with personal experiences in this world that are nothing to really worry about, in my opinion. it is possible that coming to the conclusion that what you've been experiencing all along is in fact all an illusion could lead some to despair and others to a lifetime of excitement and discvovery and freedom.

i jumped at the chance myself and was just curious. its nothing to do with the matrix metaphor.

[Bob]

ooops! its the red pill that brought about extreme reality! :)

but i really meant are you happy with your perceptions the way they are and believe them to be the total 'truth' or would you jump at an offered opportunity to strip away all the illusion about this real 2006 earth world (ie nothing to do with a film) if the chance arose.

i posted this because a few messages seem to be concerned with personal experiences in this world that are nothing to really worry about, in my opinion. it is possible that coming to the conclusion that what you've been experiencing all along is in fact all an illusion could lead some to despair and others to a lifetime of excitement and discvovery and freedom.

i jumped at the chance myself and was just curious. its nothing to do with the matrix metaphor.

whoops, got them backwards. my answer still stands though, i think. i know it sounds bad, but hell, let's assume that a matrixy scenario is true, that my whole life is just a charade to hide some awful truth that i'm 100% unaware of...i was happy before i knew that truth, what's stopping me from continuing to do so afterwards? it's a good illusion.

i'm a skeptic, almost a solipsist. i don't claim to know anything about truth save what i directly experience, and even then, i refrain from jumping to conclusions that i can't be sure of given that experience. everything beyond that is a matter of belief. but as for guides to behavior, i think that beliefs are good enough. i think that there are things that i can't KNOW, a lot of things, probably alot of things that i actually don't know, that i only believe, either correctly or not, but so what? that's the best i can do, so i go with it. but if a reality-shattering epiphany should come along sometime down the line, i'll be ready for it.

so anyway, red pill. it's a selfish choice based on a selfish philosophy but the sad truth is it's probably what i'd do.

this isn't to say that i believe we shouldn't pursue science, and gather factual evidence to shape our beliefs. i think that well-supported beliefs are better than whimsical ones, but very few of them are 100% solid. ones in the 90%+ area are good enough, though.

[P of R]

I'd take your mom, in the mouth.

[Waus]

Give me reality or give me death.

I played the MMORPG for about a month. It was fun while it lasted, but they didn't have much to keep it interesting after a while.

[Bob]

feh. how much time do we spend trying to escape from reality anyway, with fiction and drugs and whatever? no point

[ma belle]

For what its worth I believe we're living on a pretty good planet and that most people from all cultures are basically sound and share the same ideals... remember the Y2K worldwide celebrations? For many of those who partied it wasn't even the year 2000 but it didn't matter - it was just an arbitrary space-time in which to show each other what we want. Peace and good times not war and chaos.

I don't have any evidence to suggest tthat what I sense is not real. Solipsists ran away from that one a long time back...probably the original matrix idea!

Its what it is and that's all. There are depths and aspects to it. In fact I think everything's so obvious and simple that many miss its infinite beauty unfolding. Its within us all to experience such things and be happy.

[beastiegirrl101]

I never saw the matrix.


thats like saying you've never seen Star Wars.

[DIGI]

Which one is non-drowsy? I can't be falling asleep at work.

[QueenAdrock]

If I'd have known how shitty the sequels were going to be, I'd have taken a fuckin' cyanide pill.

BOOYAH

fuckin' right

but um, red pill. fuck this fake reality. (n)

[ma belle]

Real reality sucks

you'd better hope not coz you're gonna get there one way or the other eventually ;)

[Bob]

Yeah, but fake reality has World Cup, videogames and Lost. Real reality sucks.

yeah but real reality has killer robots and tubes that feed you dead babies! come on, don't you wanna wake up to that?

[ma belle]

Mmmm... there seems to be some discrepancy as to what constitutes real or not real reality..