Squaters...

[cookiepuss]

So my boyfriend and I are the onsite property managers for our complex. there was this cute hippie girl living next door who was scheduled to move out by the 10th. but we haven't seen her around since the weekend before last.

this morning I get up and there are 5 cars parked in front of her apt and I don't recognize any of the vehicles as hers. as my boyfriend is leaving for work these people are all out side with 5 or 6 dogs running off leash and total chaos. So he says: hey you guys gotta get these dogs on leash. and they said: "fuck-you. who are you?" and he's like I'm the onsite manager. and they oh well were just here to help someone move...

which is kinda bullshit. because this chick was only living there 2 months, she had NO furniture. a bed and that's about it. we know cause we went over to her house a few times.

So my boyfriend just went back on his lunch break with our landlord an found that these fuckers have totally trashed the apartment...the carpet is destroyed, they put cigarettes out on the windowsill shit like that. apparently only one of the people was there or somthing and suppsedly the girl that lived there paid these people to clean her apartment and told them they could stay there?:confused: well one thing is for sure they didn't clean it. I don't know if theses people are her "friends" or fucking random people she met on the street. I mean what the fuck.

So the landloard and my boyfriend are waiting to see if any of the other people come back, so they can call the police and press charges. of corse my man's lunch hour is almost over and he has to gt back to work so he doesn't loose his job.


But anyway...that is just fucked up. I thought the gal was cool but obviously she does not have very good judgement or friends if that is really what these people are. and she's going to be paying a shit load in damages. sucks too because the apartment had just been completely remodeled before she moved in. and now it's trashed.

dumb fuckers. so yeah. I just had to vent. if anyone wants to comment or discuss trashed apartments that's cool.

[Junker]

I know how your felling cause I also fucking hate people with this kind of shit in the head. Destroy something for pleasure is something I'll never tolerate.

[bigblu89]

Isn't there security deposits and whatnot for things like this?

[cookiepuss]

^ yeah blue. for sure, they have a security deposit from her. I haven't seen the damage yet though so they may have to go after her additional damages. I'm sure the place wasn't trashed like that when she left it, because I had been over there before and everything looke d fine. it was these people and thier 6 dogs. who brings 6 dogs to "clean" an apartment?

the whole thing is just weird. They weren't there when we went to bed last night but i did wake up around 2 am to some noise and some voices, so apparently they all showed up in the middle of the night.

mainly, were just bummed that they weren't all there when the landlord got ther because we were so looking forward to having them arrested. mu-hahaha. actually I'm missing most of the drama here at work and I'm bummed about that too. hee hee.

and hopefully they required her to leave a forwarding address/phone # when she gave her notice. apparently she was to have turned in her key 4 days ago, but apparently she gave it to a gang of hippie hoodlums instead. not smart.

[bigblu89]

I dont know how old these people were, and I may sound like an old man saying this, but I really can't stand people over the age of 25 that don't have a shred of decentcy or respoect for things or people.

[cookiepuss]

heh. no shit. I think she was maybe 24-26, I'm sure her "friends" are all around that age too. I mean you'd think though that they wouldn't do that to a friend. that's why I keep thinking she can't possibly know these people well. she might as well have asked the homeless people living under the bridge down the street to clean her place. I'm sure they would have done a better job. So I really don't know the story, it doesn't really make sense.

[befsquire]

please note, i am merely playing the role of devil's advocate here. i think what happened is really shitty, but maybe the questions i have will help your landlord later on.

first, did the one person remaining behind give the girl's name or a description of her beyond gender, which gives you a 50/50 shot of being right? if not, how will you tie them to her? second, if she was supposed to be out and didn't return the key, why didn't the landlord change the lock? also, did anyone check to be sure that the apartment was locked prior to the arrival of these people, and did anyone check to see that there was no other way for these people to gain entrance to the apartment, like an unlocked window or sliding glass door? finally, was the apartment inspected on the date she was supposed to be out?

[cookiepuss]

please note, i am merely playing the role of devil's advocate here. i think what happened is really shitty, but maybe the questions i have will help your landlord later on.

first, did the one person remaining behind give the girl's name or a description of her beyond gender, which gives you a 50/50 shot of being right? if not, how will you tie them to her? second, if she was supposed to be out and didn't return the key, why didn't the landlord change the lock? also, did anyone check to be sure that the apartment was locked prior to the arrival of these people, and did anyone check to see that there was no other way for these people to gain entrance to the apartment, like an unlocked window or sliding glass door? finally, was the apartment inspected on the date she was supposed to be out?

these are all good questions Bef. However, since we don't actually show the apartments or handle the actually renting of the units (we merely keep the grounds/laundry/trash facilities clean and report on things out of the ordinary at this point) we were not notified that she had missed her key drop off date or check out. all of that stuff is handled by an outside resource at this time, thought that may change and become part of our job later. the only reason I knew her move out date was because she told me personally. as far as what they actually said when questioned, I don't know, I was not there and obviously they are trying to locate her to find out if she really told these people to go over there. The locks are being changed immediately because of this incident, but I guess he didn't have them changed the day after she failed to turn in her key is that I assume he was giving her a few days grace period (being too nice I suppose).

I'm sure there will be some new ground rules will be laid out because of this. liek for one, even if we aren't responsible for showing the grounds or check in/out, we need to be informed of dates people are to be in/out so we can monitor it. this moring I thought someone was already moving IN to the place and I mentioned it to my boyfriend. that's why after he spoke with them later in the morning and discovered it wasn't that he called the landlord to find out what was going on.

and Skye- no not freemont. I'm north in sonoma county. Still considered "bay area" but the outskirts.

[cookiepuss]

oh no. I'm not tellin you crazy's what town I live in. you'll all want to come over and stay for a few weeks, eat my food and bathe in the creek out back. I'll PM ya. (because I want skye to stalk me, not the rest of you:p )

[cookiepuss]

ok. apparently the deal was said tenant paid her female friend some sum of money to go clean the place. said female friend apparently had a bunch of people with her because they were on thier way to some "festival" (damn hippies) and said female friend said well we can crash at my friends old apartment for the night, we just have to clean up in the morning and take everything out of it. So it kinda sounds like said tennant didn't exactly say to her friend: "hey why don't you take a bunch of people and dogs to my old apartment and break things."

I don't know where the liability will fall since it was no verified by anyone what the exact condition of th place was when she left it. we know the people who were to "clean" did not leave it in good condition. And I think in California law if you aren't present for the walk though of the rental property upon moving out, that you can not dispute the amount they can charge you for damages or the refusal to return your security deposit.

this tenant was the only one allowed to do a month to month lease and that's not going to happen again for anyone else. and yes we will now be notified of who is moving in and out and when so we can monitor it.

[g-mile7]

oh no. I'm not tellin you crazy's what town I live in. you'll all want to come over and stay for a few weeks, eat my food and bathe in the creek out back. I'll PM ya. (because I want skye to stalk me, not the rest of you:p )


I know where you stay too though :)(y) and you do with me.


And yea Apartment people are some of the whackess individuals you'll meet'

[ms.peachy]

I don't know where the liability will fall since it was no verified by anyone what the exact condition of th place was when she left it.
My hunch is that she will be liable. Presumably in accordance with the lease, it was her responsibility to see that the apartment was cleaned and to hand over the keys. It was her choice to pass this responsibility on to someone who apparently was not trustworhty. It is sad that this person who was supposedly a "friend" has rather screwed her over, but that's not the management's problem, it's her problem. If there are photos of the condition of the place when she left it and then when these other people left it, she could potentially recoup her losses in small claims court, but more likely than not she's going to just have to consider this a bitter life lesson about who you trust.

[enree erzweglle]

It's hard to manage property. Wow. But this is a cool opportunity for you and your BF to see how well you two handle stress and solve problems. I'm trying to find an up side.

I wonder how much of a security deposit she had to fork over to get the lease. Sometimes, it's just a month's rent. Sometimes, it's three month's rent. Where I'm from, a month's rent on a single-bedroom place wouldn't fix much damage.

Several years ago I rented an apartment and on moving-in day, it was a mess. It was a gross mess too and as I was tending to it, I found an obviously used Love Meter. A plastic disc with a spinny dial that tells you whether your mate is in the mood and what, very specifically, he/she should do for you. And that made me scrub the place a little more vigorously with chlorox.