Method Man - YAH MEAN

[mickill]

A lot of people think he fell off anywhere between 3 to 10 years ago. And I'm not feeling his new single with the Lauryn Hill sample, personally, but this (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/may/method_man-yah_mean-(ft-fat_joe-styles_p)-(dubcnn).mp3)song is kinda giving me a little hope. I mean, it's not 36 Chambers caliber, but it's better than anything he's done since Tical. I don't even like Fat Joe or Styles P, but Joe does his thing on this. At the beginning of Styles' verse is where I usually hit repeat.

I hear Dre contributed to the album. That's two different Wu artists he worked with this year alone.

[Exmachina]

A lot of people think he fell off anywhere between 3 to 10 years ago. And I'm not feeling his new single with the Lauryn Hill sample, personally, but this (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/may/method_man-yah_mean-(ft-fat_joe-styles_p)-(dubcnn).mp3)song is kinda giving me a little hope. I mean, it's not 36 Chambers caliber, but it's better than anything he's done since Tical. I don't even like Fat Joe or Styles P, but Joe does his thing on this. At the beginning of Styles' verse is where I usually hit repeat.

I hear Dre contributed to the album. That's two different Wu artists he worked with this year alone.


I like Styles but the songs he been on have never been that great. To hear that Dre is on the album definatly makes me want to pick it up. Just that after how high, everything has been downhill from meth and red.







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[roosta]

LYRICALLY, and i dont mean song-wise, album-wise, creative-wise, etc. etc, but pure LYRICS-wise, meth has always been top of the Wu-Tang pile for me,

He might have put out some poo-albums etc, etc, and some stupid fucking film/tv projects, but a Meth verse is second-to-none.

[Kid Presentable]

Someone at the pub told me Tical 0: The prequel was the best Wu-Solo of the last three years.

I cut off his piss. True.

[roosta]

btw, that's a great song!

much better than "say" which is just bitter.

[dave790]

Yeah there is a bit of hope. Got to be honest though, at the time - and well even now to an extent - I did think What's Happenin' was the shit, but definitely not a fan of the last album.

[mickill]

I've listened to Tical 0: The Prequel once the whole way through since I bought it.

LYRICALLY, and i dont mean song-wise, album-wise, creative-wise, etc. etc, but pure LYRICS-wise, meth has always been top of the Wu-Tang pile for me,

He might have put out some poo-albums etc, etc, and some stupid fucking film/tv projects, but a Meth verse is second-to-none.
I totally agree. The only rapper out of the entire clan that comes close or surpasses him is Ghostface. In terms of style, flow, patterns, breath control, content, charisma, when Meth brings his A game, he outshines all of them. And his hooks -- C.R.E.A.M, Ice Cream, 4,3,2,1, How High and Buck 50 (which is practically his song), for example -- are some of the most classic ever.

When people say GZA or Deck are better rappers I just roll my eyes. Because those people are dumb.

[g-mile7]

I've listened to Tical 0: The Prequel once the whole way through since I bought it.


I totally agree. The only rapper out of the entire clan that comes close or surpasses him is Ghostface. In terms of style, flow, patterns, breath control, content, charisma, when Meth brings his A game, he outshines all of them. And his hooks -- C.R.E.A.M, Ice Cream, 4,3,2,1, How High and Buck 50 (which is practically his song), for example -- are some of the most classic ever.

When people say GZA or Deck are better rappers I just roll my eyes. Because those people are dumb.


It takes more then wordplay to be better rappers, although I think Meth<GZA(just more classic rhymes in my view). My thought although Meth killed 9 milli brothas.

[mickill]

GZA spits some really good lines but

1) His voice sucks. Seriously. Listen to it.
2) While he does switch up his patterns a lot, his flow is actually pretty basic.
3) He has the detriment of having dropped the absolute corniest rhyme on the entire 36 Chambers album:

What's that in your pants ahhh human feces!
Throw your shitty drawers in the hamper
Next time come strapped with a fuckin Pamper

[Kid Presentable]

I mean I stopped serving him alcohol, and asked him to leave.

Tical is pretty awesome, and Blackout! is a certifiable classic (barring the disgusting presence of Jeffrey).

I'd rather a full Clan album at this point. On some 9 milli shit.

[g-mile7]

GZA spits some really good lines but

1) His voice sucks. Seriously. Listen to it.
2) While he does switch up his patterns a lot, his flow is actually pretty basic.
3) He has the detriment of having dropped the absolute corniest rhyme on the entire 36 Chambers album:

What's that in your pants ahhh human feces!
Throw your shitty drawers in the hamper
Next time come strapped with a fuckin Pamper

1) I think his voice matches his style perfectly, given he comes across as the song saids as one of the "Older Gods"
2) That is true, I have never heard him flip his rap style, but then again I haven't heard Raekwon do that alot either except on a handful of tracks (Heaterz, Hollow Bones)
3) Cornier then this?

Weak MC's approach with slang that's dead
you might as well run into the wall and bang your head

Ooh, what, grab my nut get screwed
Oww, here comes my Shaolin style
Sloop-B and my b-boy's U
to my crew with the "suuue"


:(


Cornier then U-Gods??

[g-mile7]

I mean I stopped serving him alcohol, and asked him to leave.

Tical is pretty awesome, and Blackout! is a certifiable classic (barring the disgusting presence of Jeffrey).

I'd rather a full Clan album at this point. On some 9 milli shit.


Wish they just do it already.....shit before it's too late (think ODB's death would have sped up the process)

[roosta]

yeah, over all Meth is much better than GZA because as mickill says his whole flow, style, pattern etc. is untouchable. GZA has some great lyrics but as a RAPPER, Meth takes him everytime.

[g-mile7]

yeah, over all Meth is much better than GZA because as mickill says his whole flow, style, pattern etc. is untouchable. GZA has some great lyrics but as a RAPPER, Meth takes him everytime.


that is true.

But Gza is still a legend and has crediblity Meth has lost over time (even though many could say both have had an equal amount of dud LPS depends on if you judge more on production, lyrics or whatever)

by the way check out the new Rebel INS track on his myspace....All I Want is Mine(I think is new)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=19822169

[mickill]

I forgot U-God was even on 36 Chambers. I sometimes forget he's even in the group. Point taken.

But seriously, why's GZA even looking in another dude's drawers? Seeumsayin?

Meth is one of the most underrated rappers ever, roosta.

[roosta]

Meth is one of the most underrated rappers ever, roosta.

i agree wholeheartedly.

[g-mile7]

I forgot U-God was even on 36 Chambers. I sometimes forget he's even in the group. Point taken.

But seriously, why's GZA even looking in another dude's drawers? Seeumsayin?

Meth is one of the most underrated rappers ever, roosta.



He is though.


holy shit(didnt want to make another thread bout this since this is Wu related)

According to Raekwons people we can officially confirm that Chef Raekwon has inked a deal with Dr. Dres Aftermath Entertainment. While details are still sketchy, we can confirm that the papers were signed last week.

It was already known that Dr. Dre and Raekwon had worked together on the highly anticipated "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" project, an initiative of Busta Rhymes who is also an Executive Producer of the record with RZA.

"Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II" will be a co-production between Aftermath and Wu-Tang. Whether this is the Wu Music Group or Wu-Tang Productions is not known yet.

RZA has yet to confirm the rest of the details.

This is truly history in the making...
http://www.wutang-corp.com/news/article.php?id=691 explains all the Dre produced material lately(Meth supposdly has a Dre beat on his Lp droppin July 16 or something loike that)

[Kid Presentable]

How are you judging Method Man's underratedness as an M.C? Five people in this thread of five contributors agree. I think most would agree, he's an amazing rapper.

[mickill]

How are you judging Method Man's underratedness as an M.C? Five people in this thread of five contributors agree. I think most would agree, he's an amazing rapper.
Because he's not usually mentioned along with other greats.
Because people have been talking about how he fell off since Tical.
Because people generally associate weak albums/songs/sales with being weak as a rapper.

He kinda did it to himself, though.

Yeah, I heard about Rae signing to Aftermath a little while back when RZA mentioned it in an interview. Hopefully Dre doesn't just throw him on the back burner with his B teamers.

[Auton]

GZA spits some really good lines but

1) His voice sucks. Seriously. Listen to it.

you're on crack, mike.

[dave790]

GZA's voice I actually like...

[g-mile7]

you're on crack, mike.


haha guess GZA darts just too sharp 4 his ears ;)


Meth does have a smoother voice then GZA, although GZA is more rugged

[mickill]

you're on crack, mike.
The only way to describe GZA's voice is he sounds like a tall munchkin.

You think 2Pac would have been even half as big if his voice sounded like GZA's?

[g-mile7]

The only way to describe GZA's voice is he sounds like a tall munchkin.

You think 2Pac would have been even half as big if his voice sounded like GZA's?



well thats not entirely true I mean Ja Rule and even U-God have similar voices to that of Pac. And we know that NEITHER is even close to his noroitiy

[Kid Presentable]

Whichever song it was where he raps "Check the wicked flows I de-Liva, oops I mean deliver like the Hudson river", and he does the "B-Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooyyyyy we don't stop!" shit is crazy nice. Up until Tical 2, I would have mentioned him top 10 for sure.

[Monsieur Decuts]

I think one of the reasons everyone thinks Meth fell off was he was the first solo wu to really go to pop status, they put him first in line. M-E-T-H-O-D MAN. I'm pretty sure it was the Wu-Tang plan to have him fall off so the next in line could rise up and get the attention.

I agree that his flows are sick, and no matter how much the other guys try to rap about emotional lovey shit...meth is the only wu memember who can acurately present emotion in his flow. RZA just screems when he tries to show emotion, Ghostface sounds like he's laughing on the inside when he's rapping to single mom's and Rae comes aggressive when he's trying to rap about soft stuff.

All I need is the perfect example of Meth portraying real emotion.

I'm just waiting for him to get decent beats cause I know I loves me a Meth remix way butter than the original.

[Auton]

tical 0 sucked lyrically too. Now, i love method man, but saying he's the only one who can convey emotion in the clan is ridiculous. I'd say the only time he showed ANY emotional weight was in his verse for a better tomorrow. He's got the best flow in wu tang, easily... but when it comes to actual lyrical content, hell, it's fluff 99% of the time. i listen to method for fun, not for insight, whereas i can actually get something from a ghostface, gza, rza, and hell, a masta killa track. calling method man underrated is like calling jerry bruckheimer underrated... method man's always on greatest-ever lists, unless you're reading some nerdcore indie-zines or something. you'd always see him instead of any other wu tang members circa 95 or 2000.

[Auton]

and tical 2000 is incredibly underrated. blackout too.

[Kid Presentable]

and Blackout! is a certifiable classic (barring the disgusting presence of Jeffrey).

Re-iterate.

[Auton]

*hi fivez*

[Kid Presentable]

*hi fivez*
*tennis victory*

[mickill]

I was at the instore signing at Virgin in Time Square when Blackout dropped. I wasn't about to wait in line with the groupies and 13 year olds to get my copy signed, though. But did I meet Ali Shaheed Muhammad in the Rock section. Nice guy.

I wasn't crazy about Tical 2000. But any album with 28 tracks (11 skits) is bound to have too much filler. The hook on Judgement Day was insane, though.

[Kid Presentable]

Blackout was and is the shit. Sorry if the people you talk to don't think Meth is already one of the best to do it. His albums mostly suck though.

[So Ruff]

Red & Meth are two of my fave. emcees, but I actually think Blackout! is pretty ehh. Both Redman's rhymes and E's beats were more impressive on the El Nino album.

Meth is ill no question, but I can't say I have high hopes for his new album. Not really feeling that track with Lauryn Hill... Meth doesn't sound at all interested. That, or he's smoking less reef.

[g-mile7]

tical 0 sucked lyrically too. Now, i love method man, but saying he's the only one who can convey emotion in the clan is ridiculous. I'd say the only time he showed ANY emotional weight was in his verse for a better tomorrow. He's got the best flow in wu tang, easily... but when it comes to actual lyrical content, hell, it's fluff 99% of the time. i listen to method for fun, not for insight, whereas i can actually get something from a ghostface, gza, rza, and hell, a masta killa track. calling method man underrated is like calling jerry bruckheimer underrated... method man's always on greatest-ever lists, unless you're reading some nerdcore indie-zines or something. you'd always see him instead of any other wu tang members circa 95 or 2000.


Truth he has always been the most well known of the Wu-Tang.

And after listening to Cream, For Heavens Sake, A Better Tommorow....Rebel INS isn't a worst rapper then Method.

[mickill]

Presidential MC (http://www.method-man.com/method-jukebox/audiomp3/presidential_mc.mp3)

Featuring Raekwon and RZA. The beat's supplied by RZA. Pretty simple beat, but it's good to hear Meth going back to doing gutter shit.

[Jitters]

Yeah there is a bit of hope. Got to be honest though, at the time - and well even now to an extent - I did think What's Happenin' was the shit, but definitely not a fan of the last album.

The last album was so bad I lost all faith in Meth, I got rid of every album I had of his and just forgot about him, it was just that bad, fans of that album must have problems. So yeah, I wasn't a fan of the last one either. :(

[adam_f]

I just bought the Tical Prequel or whatever the hell last week. If I recollect right, it came out about the same time as Ghostface's "The Pretty Toney Album" so I must've pretty much igonred it. It's not as terrible as I'd heard.

New song isn't bad though.