View Full Version : DJ Shadow - The outsider
A guy that works at HMV posted a review over at a board I post at.
"In a twilight of a time, there emerges a need for man to comprehend his own bitter fate. Finally resigned to the inevitable beyond, he searches the ages, desperate for stories of insurance, redemption and hope...but there is one tale that has yet been told, the story of 'The Outsider'." ('Outsider Intro')
It's been four years since the 'Private Press' album and in that time a lot has happened to DJ Shadow aka California turntablist Josh Davis. The man renowned for his cinematic instrumental hip-hop soundscapes has discarded the baggage of predictable expectations and performed a musical U-turn back to his love of early 'party rap' and in particular, the sounds surrounding him in his Bay Area home. There's still some dark, emotional intent in Shadow's new work, but the addition of a host of guest rappers tells us that, a decade on, Shadow is now saying "Hip-hop doesn't suck in 2006".
The first real shocker is an appearance from "Crunk Prince" David Banner ("DJ Shadow up in this motherf***er!") on 'Seein Thangs' - those expecting 'Midnight In A Perfect World Pt. 47' may want to have their parents present - but the track carries a heartfelt message from Mississippi resident Banner with vocals recorded both before and after the events of Hurricane Katrina. The additional inclusion of Q-Tip, Lateef, Phonte from Southern crew Little Brother, and a hand-picked selection of the Bay Area's finest 'Hyphy' rappers confirms Shadow has ripped the hip-hop heart from his sleeve and is displaying it proudly on his chest.
But fans from the days of Mo Wax need not despair. After all, DJ Shadow admits he has never fitted comfortably in any one genre and there is still a connection with his seminal early material. 'This Time (I'm Gonna Try It My Way)' employs an inspiring sampled vocal lifted from a 40-year old reel discovered in a disused studio to somewhat explain his new assertiveness in his music, not necessarily trying to please everyone but reflecting his ever-changing tastes. There are also vocal collaborators from across the pond thanks to Jim Abbiss, engineer on 'Private Press' and the UNKLE album 'Psyence Fiction', who introduced Shadow to Leicester's Kasabian (who appear on 'The Tiger') and two appearances from Leeds' Chris James, lead singer of Stateless.
'The Outsider' is a milestone in DJ Shadow's career - the rare sound of an artist making the kind of music he wants to hear himself. It touches areas and genres that the previous albums didn't dare go near and that suits him just fine. As Shadow himself says: "There's songs on this album that I think blow away almost anything else I've ever done. I think song for song it's the best album I've ever made. One thing's for sure - it's going to make it very difficult for people to imitate my sound!".
Tracklist:
1. Outsider Intro
2. This Time (I'm Gonna Try It My Way)
3. 3 Freaks-Feat. Keak Da Sneak & Turf Talk
4. Droop-E Drop
5. Turf Dancing-Feat. The Federation & Animaniaks
6. Keep Em Close-Feat. Nump
7. Seein Thangs-Feat. David Banner
8. Broken Levee Blues
9. Artifact [Instrumental]
10. Backstage Girl-Feat. Phonte Coleman
11. Triplicate / Something Happened That Day
12. The Tiger-Feat. Sergio Pizzorno & Christopher Karloff (Kasabian)
13. Erase You-Feat. Chris James
14. What Have I Done-Feat. Christina Carter
15. You Made It-Feat. Chris James
16. Enuff-Feat. Q-Tip & Lateef The Truth Speaker
17. Dats My Part-Feat. E-40
roosta
06-25-2006, 08:15 AM
im really looking forward to this.....it'll be interesting if anything
laserx54
06-25-2006, 10:15 AM
is there a set release date?
is there a set release date?
No. I've heard next month. But I've also heard September.
roosta
06-25-2006, 04:28 PM
on his latest Digest he says August.
Rip Round'n Roc
06-25-2006, 10:29 PM
there is no doubt that this will be a good album
Two new tracks got played on radio 1 last night. Listen to the show here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/oneworld/index.shtml) (y)
Also here's (http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/navigate.do?pPageID=2010) an interview. With special guest questions from yoda, coldcut and prime cuts.
trailerprincess
06-28-2006, 04:52 AM
I heard the release date in the UK was set for the end of August. I can't wait.
HMV says 4th of September
gaselite
06-28-2006, 02:31 PM
solesides boards? :p
Anyhoo I have two tracks atm (have already heard 3 Freaks, wasn't feeling it but it'll probably grow on me once I own it), Enuff and Broken Levee Blues, I'm pretty into both at the moment, Enuff has grown, chrous is a bit 'what the fuck at first' but that grows too, it's pretty much a weekend party song, nothing wrong with that. Broken Levee Blues is some extremely chilled, mellow, well played guitar work. I'm into that.
Another new track (http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=3076)
Qdrop
07-21-2006, 02:21 PM
Another new track (http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=3076)
garbage.
just look at all those comments..... he's getting torched for this hyphy shit....
i don't get it.... what is wrong with shadow?
"song for song it's the best album I've ever made"
roosta
07-21-2006, 05:59 PM
i don't get it.... what is wrong with shadow?
he's making music for himself and not fans, and thats the right thing to do.
It's been a long time since I've been this excited about an album release.
FunkyHiFi
07-21-2006, 11:42 PM
he's getting torched for this hyphy shit....
What's "hyphy" mean?
Reginald
07-22-2006, 12:36 AM
This won't be good.
The Notorious LOL
07-22-2006, 03:10 AM
What's "hyphy" mean?
its the bay area version of crunk basically.
ScarySquirrel
07-22-2006, 09:45 AM
First listen, first impression... it's not good. At all.
But that damn 3 Freaks thing kind of grew on me. Maybe this will. I'm picking up the album either way, 'cause I dig what Shadow does... so we'll see how the album is when it comes out. Until I hear the thing in its entirity, I'm going to try and hold my judgment.
And another (http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/labels/universalmotown/djshadow/audio/you_made_it.asx). You Made It ft Chris James (of stateless)
I posted this on the solesides board about his "new style":
I'd rather hear him try something completely different than hear him try make an endtroducing 2. Because I know there is no way he, or anyone else, could top that album.
Reginald
07-23-2006, 01:00 AM
And another (http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/labels/universalmotown/djshadow/audio/you_made_it.asx). You Made It ft Chris James (of stateless)
I posted this on the solesides board about his "new style":
I'd rather hear him try something completely different than hear him try make an endtroducing 2. Because I know there is no way he, or anyone else, could top that album.
Prince Paul - Psychoanalysis: What is It?
FunkyHiFi
07-23-2006, 01:10 AM
its the bay area version of crunk basically.Thanks.
FunkyHiFi
07-23-2006, 01:17 AM
I listened to the "You Made It" track & thought it was pretty good......but it sounds NOTHING like his previous albums. If you hadn't told me that was Shadow, I would have never suspected.
Reginald
07-23-2006, 01:59 AM
DJ Shadow 3 Freaks Feat Keak Da Sneak Turf Talk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feYbZA4RUXI
Wow.
DJ Shadow 3 Freaks Feat Keak Da Sneak Turf Talk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feYbZA4RUXI
Wow.
Welcome to a couple of months ago
Reginald
07-23-2006, 03:34 PM
Welcome to a couple of months ago
Yeah, and it is bad.
ASsman
07-23-2006, 09:44 PM
Damn, will check it out. I'm feeling all the other featured artists except this "hyphy" shit. Didn't give me a good impression from what Ive seen.
The Notorious LOL
07-24-2006, 12:05 AM
Dj_Shadow-The_Outsider-Advance-CD-2006-DEF.rar
I'll give my two cents in about an hour. If your name is ET and you want it, I will link you.
Dj_Shadow-The_Outsider-Advance-CD-2006-DEF.rar
Shit. Now i have a dilemma on my hands.
Edit: Although it looks like its been nuked. Missing tracks etc
If your name is ET and you want it, I will link you.
Let me link you up and down
Til you say stop
Let me play with your hypertext baby
Make you real ROFL
Let me link to all the things you want me to do
Cuz tonight baby I wanna get clicky with you
roosta
07-24-2006, 04:22 PM
has this leaked already? wowseroo!
korn_phr33k
07-24-2006, 07:11 PM
yeah im really looking forward to this release, its right up there with the AIFST dvd. im really interested in seeing what his stuff is like when he dosnt use samples.
he's in the Guinness book of records for first album entirely made of samples, just to let you know.
ggirlballa
07-24-2006, 07:55 PM
he's in the Guinness book of records for first album entirely made of samples, just to let you know.
:eek:
EN[i]GMA
07-24-2006, 08:45 PM
yeah im really looking forward to this release, its right up there with the AIFST dvd. im really interested in seeing what his stuff is like when he dosnt use samples.
he's in the Guinness book of records for first album entirely made of samples, just to let you know.
How is it 'entirely' sampled? Doesn't Lyrics Born talk over two of the tracks? That's not really a 'sample'.
korn_phr33k
07-24-2006, 10:11 PM
GMA']How is it 'entirely' sampled? Doesn't Lyrics Born talk over two of the tracks? That's not really a 'sample'.
on endtroducing? which part? i honestly dont remember? really though, if anyone can tell me which song then i (and the guinness book of records) stand corrected. i really dont remeber any... maybe another album or remix maybe?
laidback93
07-24-2006, 11:18 PM
I have a feeling that Shadow is going to piss a lot of fans off with this album. However, I won't be one of them. I love the "hyphy" sound because it doesn't sound like other hip hop out there. Plus living in northern California you have to like it. I do hold out hope that he will make another Endtroducing style album, but he'll never be able to top that classic IMHO.
Anyways, can't wait for this album to drop! :D
"got my vans on, but they look like sneakers"
EN[i]GMA
07-25-2006, 07:25 AM
on endtroducing? which part? i honestly dont remember? really though, if anyone can tell me which song then i (and the guinness book of records) stand corrected. i really dont remeber any... maybe another album or remix maybe?
On 'Why Hip Hop Sucks in '96' and on another song.
I think both of those were recorded specifically for use on that album.
The Notorious LOL
07-25-2006, 09:22 AM
all "Why hip hop sucks in 96" says is "its the money!" and I dont think its Lyrics Born
Lo_Lyfe
07-25-2006, 09:28 AM
and theres a dude talkin bout a girl with eyes like jolly ranchers. and that ain't lb.
EN[i]GMA
07-25-2006, 10:11 AM
In the booklet that came with the 10th Anniversery Edition Shadow says the voice on both tracks is Lyrics Born.
Shadow also talks about how Lyrics Born and Dan the Automator would argue over who the best American Gladiator was.
Another legaly available track. Back stage girl (http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/july/djshadow/backstagegirl.mp3).
Did I hear "myspace" mentiond on that song?
Some people on oink are stupid
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*oh my god. I got the new shadow album. Its not even on oink. I must be super leet. I'll upload it and people will love me. I wont bother to search the log to see if its been uploaded and deleted yet, nor will i even check to see if it is the whole album*
korn_phr33k
07-25-2006, 04:43 PM
GMA']In the booklet that came with the 10th Anniversery Edition Shadow says the voice on both tracks is Lyrics Born.
Shadow also talks about how Lyrics Born and Dan the Automator would argue over who the best American Gladiator was.
i still need to pick that up, ive only got it on vinyl, and that basically means i cant listen to it in the car.(n)
i still need to pick that up, ive only got it on vinyl, and that basically means i cant listen to it in the car.(n)
I got one of the 50 signed copies off shadows site (y)
GMA']In the booklet that came with the 10th Anniversery Edition Shadow says the voice on both tracks is Lyrics Born.
Shadow also talks about how Lyrics Born and Dan the Automator would argue over who the best American Gladiator was.
I just checked the booklet. Shadow is talking about the tracks on the second cd. Alternate mixes and the such. But he does mention that he's on track 6 on the proper album.
Lo_Lyfe
07-25-2006, 07:36 PM
I just checked the booklet. Shadow is talking about the tracks on the second cd. Alternate mixes and the such. But he does mention that he's on track 6 on the proper album.
lol. maybe he recorded LB and then pressed his voice and sampled that.
korn_phr33k
07-26-2006, 02:37 AM
I got one of the 50 signed copies off shadows site (y)
you lucky bastard you
:eek:
well i shop at the same shop he used to! so there! ever seen scratch, the dj documentary? yep its that shop, the same one thats the cover of endtroducing..., the same damn cat thats on the cover is there too!
Nerds are going to be pissed. It's good except I wished the whole Project Pat thing worked out.
FunkyHiFi
07-26-2006, 03:23 PM
Excerpt from the Berkeley Intellectual Property Weblog, 2003 archive ( http://www.boalt.org/biplog/archive/000404.html ):
Many other media stories about the RIAA lawsuits and subpoenas have made this mistake. The RIAA is suing uploaders, not downloaders. They might in future sue downloaders, but right now, the lawsuits are directed at people who offer music to others. There is a difference and it does matter.
Just an FYI: Berkeley is a bastion of liberal thought, not uptight/oppressive right-wingers & corporate ass kissers.
From "The Music Wars" link on that same page:
TechTV taped The Music Wars yesterday afternoon in SF with Ted Cohen of EMI, Jeremy Welt of Maverick Records and John Perry Barlow of EFF starting things off. After some discussion, a musician on each side of the issue was added (Chuck D - pro file sharing and Ira Dean of Trick Pony - anti file sharing). Things were nice, but contentious. Nobody threw chairs, but they joked about it. Their positions were far apart, but everyone there could agree that musicians need to get paid, and the Internet has disrupted the music industry to such an extent, that the resulting problems are difficult and complex.
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