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Qdrop
07-07-2006, 07:09 AM
Shell says biofuels from food crops "morally inappropriate"
Thu Jul 6, 10:09 AM ET

Royal Dutch Shell, the world's top marketer of biofuels, considers using food crops to make biofuels "morally inappropriate" as long as there are people in the world who are starving, an executive said on Thursday.

Eric G Holthusen, Fuels Technology Manager Asia/Pacific, said the company's research unit, Shell Global Solutions, has developed alternative fuels from renewable resources that use wood chips and plant waste rather than food crops that are typically used to make the fuels.

Holthusen said his company's participation in marketing biofuels extracted from food was driven by economics or legislation.

"If we have the choice today, then we will not use this route," Malaysia-based Holthusen said at a seminar in Singapore.

"We think morally it is inappropriate because what we are doing here is using food and turning it into fuel. If you look at Africa, there are still countries that have a lack of food, people are starving, and because we are more wealthy we use food and turn it into fuel. This is not what we would like to see. But sometimes economics force you to do it."

The world's top commercially produced biofuels are ethanol and biodiesel.

Ethanol, mostly used in the United States and Brazil, is produced from sugar cane and beets and can also be derived from grains such as corn and wheat. Biodiesel, used in Europe, is extracted from the continent's predominant oil crop, rapeseed, and can also be produced from palm and coconut.

Holthusen said Shell has been working on biofuels that can be extracted from plant waste and wood chips, but he did not say when the alternative biofuel might be commercially available.

"We are not resting. We are doing what everybody needs to do. We have worked over time on an alternative to get away from food, and this is what we call the second generation of biofuels," he said.

He said Shell, in partnership with Canadian biotech firm Iogen Corp., has developed "cellulose ethanol," which is made from the wood chips and non-food portion of renewable feedstocks such as cereal straws and corn stover, and can be blended with gasoline. Ethanol is typically extracted from sugarcane or grain.

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"morally inappropriate"?
HAHHHHAHHHAAHAHAH!
AN OIL EXEC. IS CALLING SOMETHING MORALLY INAPPROPRIATE?!
HAHHAHAHHHHAHHHAHHA....



actually, that's not even funny...

Pres Zount
07-07-2006, 07:30 AM
"Fossil Fuels Morally Inappropriate, says Archeological groups"

Bob
07-07-2006, 08:19 AM
"Fossil Fuels Morally Inappropriate, says Archeological groups"

there are kids in africa who've never even been to a museum

SobaViolence
07-07-2006, 10:07 AM
kids die from diarrhea in africa.

EN[i]GMA
07-07-2006, 01:00 PM
Who does he think he is, Peter Singer?

Bob
07-07-2006, 01:08 PM
isn't starvation more of a problem of distribution than production anyway? my understanding is that there's already enough food to feed the world a few times over, it's just that it's not all getting where it needs to go.

don't ask me where i got this information from by the way, i don't remember.

King PSYZ
07-07-2006, 01:25 PM
I've heard the same Bob, and what's funny is about this statement. So if you're so opposed to the starving people in Africa, why isn't the president of Shell donating all that money they gouged off of the American people to feeding those same starving souls?

It's more like "Hey could guys quit with the Ethanol thing made from the vast over abundance of locally grown fuels like corn so that I can continue to bilk the public for the forseable future? If you guys keep this up soon there won't be a need for Fosil fuels..."

EN[i]GMA
07-07-2006, 02:20 PM
isn't starvation more of a problem of distribution than production anyway? my understanding is that there's already enough food to feed the world a few times over, it's just that it's not all getting where it needs to go.

don't ask me where i got this information from by the way, i don't remember.

I believe you're correct.

Also, famines are not always, indeed not usually, caused by decreases in food production.

There have been famines in India where food production in the area actually went up, but wages dropped out, or food was sold off, etc.

Amartya Sen has done a lot of brilliant research in this area.

kaiser soze
07-07-2006, 03:44 PM
what a wonker....how much are the petro lobbyists shoving up his ass?

If its "morally inappropriate" to convert food into fuel, then I guess WE ALL STARVE!!!

now that's food for thought

think about the food!!!

viva la food!

Is it just me or is it morally inappropriate for corporations like Monsanto to copyright seeds and genetically alter them causing Agricultural/Ecological/Social disasters?

These people are fucking ASSHOLES!

catatonic
07-08-2006, 10:45 PM
Hey kids, sorry, no more crayons allowed in school. They can be used as food.