why do you see the worse in people [Archive]

monkey

07-13-2006, 08:55 AM

many of you answered in ddd's thread that you first see the bad in people, often obscuring the nice. why? what do you think made you that way?

personally, i dont understand it. my problem tends to be the opposite (which makes me quite the ingenue in certain places). i need to spend a lot of time with a person, talking to them or knowing about them, to be able to "judge" them. and i do judge, im not completely free of that. but they always begin on a good note with me. maybe it's not that i accept people but rather it's that i dont entirely trust anyone so it's not a big deal to think theyre nice.

what i mostly dont understand is when people make opinions about others based on gossip and rumor. ive had that happen to me, where people form an opinion about me based on rumor or superficiality... i always wonder why.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 08:59 AM

many of you answered in ddd's thread that you first see the bad in people, often obscuring the nice. why? what do you think made you that way?

Childhood molestation.

adam_f

07-13-2006, 09:01 AM

Coal mine accident.

monkey

07-13-2006, 09:06 AM

Childhood molestation.

wow. that's terrible. :(

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 09:51 AM

wow. that's terrible. :(

Nah, it was quite good. I went back three times in half an hour.

B4BY 4NN

07-13-2006, 09:56 AM

-I often judge people solely on looks alone. If the person is very attractive, I automatically assume they're an asshole. It's a jealousy-thing. :(

-This may sound like a cry for attention, but I have very FEW, select friends (offline). Wait.. I'm lying. As of right now, I have one friend (HotAndWet).

Even in school, I was always weary of my classmates. I was never the one to approach. If they wanted to befriend me, or receive my slightest interest, it would take a long-LONG time before any "friendship" were to befall.

Thus far (and at ONLY 19 years old), 9 out of 10 relationships have ended, which is pretty sad to say. I've suffered a lot due to legitimately BAD "friends"/relations. I was stupid to have allowed them be a confidant, which has resulted in my lack of trust in others TODAY. I TRY, but again-and-again, it turns to shit.

I cannot say this is the good lesson learned. If I trusted people once in a while, I may actually meet someone DECENT. But for now, I can't. NO WAI!!!

g-mile7

07-13-2006, 09:58 AM

I don't see the worst in people as in I talk to people with a frown on my face or not a smile but I can see that there are shady people in this world, and those that you let into your inner circle are the ones that can be the most deadly; thus, even my own good friends of 5+ do not know as much as I know about them and I like to keep it that way. Just in case we happen to get into a fight I dont want us having full weapons to go to an all-out war. People just aren't dependable, but I truly believe that dwelling on this fact and not having some belief you can change this (either with friends, lovers or future kids and your family) if you at least try. We, as in people, are too complicant and accepting of things which are not right in the grander scheme. If a person can be a asshole to you without even knowing you then that can also add to the "seeing the worst" in people. Get to know me before you judge me and I will do the same. I hope that when people see me they don't assume, at least people I know, the worse about me. That right there is me trying to change the system and flip it by me doing the same.

Randetica

07-13-2006, 10:00 AM

because i can?

monkey

07-13-2006, 10:02 AM

Nah, it was quite good. I went back three times in half an hour.

ah here's the thing.. i dont joke about that. having people close to me that suffer from that, i dont consider childhood molestation a really funny topic. thanks.

B4BY 4NN

07-13-2006, 10:04 AM

I don't see the worst in people as in I talk to people with a frown on my face or not a smile...

See, I frown, I look pissy. It's my only armor to avoid people as much as possible.

monkey

07-13-2006, 10:04 AM

because i can?

fair enough. but what about being able to not like people fulfills your life?

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:08 AM

ah here's the thing.. i dont joke about that. having people close to me that suffer from that, i dont consider childhood molestation a really funny topic. thanks.

I do. So funny I used a direct quote from a stand-up comedian entertaining a room full of people with it.

Tragedies happen, if you can't see the funny side of them, you're only gonna be blue.

Randetica

07-13-2006, 10:08 AM

people? i dont even know any people

ummm because i can?

abcdefz

07-13-2006, 10:15 AM

monkey

07-13-2006, 10:18 AM

I do. So funny I used a direct quote from a stand-up comedian entertaining a room full of people with it.

Tragedies happen, if you can't see the funny side of them, you're only gonna be blue.

i see the funny part in tragedies... i'll be the first to make jokes about destruction. mostly because it's out of our hands and not preventable. but when people joke about some dirty motherfucker that gets his jollies from touching and mentally scarring a poor defenseless child, then i believe there's a problem in people's reasoning. the fact that there's adults out there right now that cant function properly because some guy wanted to touch them... it ruins people, it ruins families, it ruins goodness. the most bothersome thing about this is that it is, in some way, preventable. parents need to learn to teach their children what is right and wrong kind of feelings and touches and even try to be more viligant of them. every mother and father wants to be the best, most protective parent out there. and many of them will succeed by teaching their children how to protect and react to people wanting to get uncomfortably close.

i could go on forever regarding this because i feel this may just be the worst evil of society. and it's the one thing i dont joke about EVER. talk to a person who's been molested, and they'll show you why it's not ok to laugh.

g-mile7

07-13-2006, 10:19 AM

I'm very perceptive and highly critical, so I catch on to people's good and bads pretty fast. I'm more unsparing than unforgiving, though, unless I'm deliberately abused or betrayed.

The plus side of this is that I see real beauty in people in a way and can be profoundly moved by that. People with really nice spirits blow me away, and I'm very, very grateful.

(y) I'm the same way of sorts I pick up on shit (even if its a little hint of it) too easily. Its both a gift (in terms of seeing the true beauty of someone) and curse (seeing the rudeness inside someone).

The Notorious LOL

07-13-2006, 10:21 AM

yeah child abuse doesnt really get the chuckles going amongst most.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:35 AM

and mentally scarring a poor defenseless child,

That can and does happen regularly without any sexual abuse. Parents merely being disinterested can do, children can survive their parents due to all sorts of circumstances, and be mentally scarred by that.

A child can watch their parents die in a car crash due to a drunk driver. Is that any less mentally scarring? Any more or less preventable? What if they watch a parent die from alcoholism or drugs abuse?

What about "adults" who are mentally scarred from poor life choices they have made about sexual partners?

the fact that there's adults out there right now that cant function properly because some guy wanted to touch them

What about women? It happens, you know.

... it ruins people, it ruins families, it ruins goodness.

Could say that about TV, rock'n'roll, and the demon drink.

i could go on forever regarding this because i feel this may just be the worst evil of society. and it's the one thing i dont joke about EVER. talk to a person who's been molested, and they'll show you why it's not ok to laugh.

Feh, I know a fair few people who have been molested, and exaggerating their personal tragedies is an insult to everyone else's, and fuelling the paedo-hysteria is at least as damaging, if not more so, than the hurt any joke can cause.

Seriously, drop the tub-thumping for a minute and let's see if it really is "the worst evil..."

Compare molestation to the tragedy of someone's parents being mugged and killed - is the former really "the worst evil" ? If you asked a victim, would they swap one for the other given the choice?

Flip it around - "Would you rather they had killed you, but not molested you at all?" What about "Would you rather they had beaten you so badly you were physically deformed, couldn't walk, could barely talk, and had to shit through a tube - would you have preferred that?"

Yah, childhood molestation is a bad thing, but then the world is filled with all sorts of horribleness, and blowing one aspect of it out of all proportion doesn't help anyone. What it DOES do is get paediatrician's houses fire-bombed by demented lynch-mobs.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:37 AM

yeah child abuse doesnt really get the chuckles going amongst most.

Obviously you weren't a fan of the last episode of Brasseye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasseye) then.

Waus

07-13-2006, 10:42 AM

yeah child abuse doesnt really get the chuckles going amongst most.

Actually, there was a scene in "Happiness" about child molesting that really made me laugh. I felt kinda bad, but it was only a movie.

The guy drugs a sandwich and he's waiting for this kid to eat it, he's all "aren't you going to eat that?" I guess you had to be there.

beastieangel01

07-13-2006, 10:44 AM

I tend to be the opposite as well. I am good at ignoring bad things and only seeing good. I believe that there is good in everyone, that usually it was a matter of their upbringing/environment that may have caused them to become a bitter/mean/whatever person.

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 10:48 AM

monkey

07-13-2006, 10:48 AM

nothing

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:49 AM

One thing you gotta understand about Ace is that if you tell him what he did was inappropriate, instead of just apologizing and not saying anything again like a polite person would do, he instead explains his infallible reasoning and tries to make you think that it was justified.

If it is not justified, then neither was the 2001 Brasseye special. And if that's the case, then it's not a world I want to live in. Capiche?

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:52 AM

ace, get off your high horse and admit you've been lucky that your life has never been tainted by a sick fuck who may have ruined your life.

I'm lucky I haven't been hit by a car too. Ditto for having my mother die in childbirth, or any one of a host of other things. If we used "life ruining" as a measure for what was an acceptable topic for humour, then we'd have to say goodbye to 90% of the most entertaining things ever produced.

g-mile7

07-13-2006, 10:54 AM

I'm lucky I haven't been hit by a car too. Ditto for having my mother die in childbirth, or any one of a host of other things. If we used "life ruining" as a measure for what was an acceptable topic for humour, then we'd have to say goodbye to 90% of the most entertaining things ever produced.

That is true after all I am sure we most have chuckled at pokes at Micheal Jackson, and thats someone who was abused and "might have" abused children.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:55 AM

That is true after all I am sure we most have chuckled at pokes at Micheal Jackson, and thats someone who was abused and "might have" abused children.

See, that's my point exactly. I still laugh my ass off at the south park episode where a guy in the audience of "Jesus Talk" just randomly goes on about "so, he touched a few children, he's brought joy to millions through his music!"

Bob

07-13-2006, 10:56 AM

this topic got weird

pauli, look for the best in him

ms.peachy

07-13-2006, 10:56 AM

Well Ace I gotta hand it to you; faced with the options of being a considerate man or a complete cunt, you go with cunt every time. I admire your consistency.

Randetica

07-13-2006, 10:57 AM

i agree with ace

hail to black humor!

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 10:57 AM

The thing is, it's great if you think it's funny. If someone tells you that it's not funny to them, don't tell them it is and try to convince them. Respect their wishes and move on.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 10:58 AM

Well Ace I gotta hand it to you; faced with the options of being a considerate man or a complete cunt, you go with cunt every time. I admire your consistency.

And I have to hand it to you, Peachy, when faced with the options of being reactionary and popularist or a judgemental bitch - you manage to do both simultaneously! Well done on your consistency.

enree erzweglle

07-13-2006, 11:00 AM

I think in my younger life, I tended to slip into doing this more so than I do now. Now, I think I tend to give the benefit of the doubt much more easily and I do that until the person has either done me wrong directly, done wrong by someone else and I've witnessed that, or until their actions and their words just conflict so much that it's impossible to trust them or trust, entirely, everything they say/do.

The thing that challenges me the most is when people are inconsistent and contradictory--people who say one thing and do another. Red flag. But the judgement there isn't immediate--I've at least had to interact with them--usually for awhile--before I start thinking about flags.

When I was younger and when I tended to more often make snap judgements of people, it was because I tended to lump people together. I'd see some common behavior or trait--some common denominator--that made me associate that person with some offensive someone from my past. Or because I'd see some negative-ish aspect in them that hit too close to home for me. I learned, probably the too-hard way, that those snap judgements can be, usually are bad. Bad in terms of unfairness to the person, bad in terms of me missing out on potentially great relationships, bad in terms of reinforcing a thing that I shouldn't have done in the first place.

ms.peachy

07-13-2006, 11:00 AM

The thing is, it's great if you think it's funny. If someone tells you that it's not funny to them, don't tell them it is and try to convince them. Respect their wishes and move on.
Not possible, apparently.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:02 AM

The thing is, it's great if you think it's funny. If someone tells you that it's not funny to them, don't tell them it is and try to convince them. Respect their wishes and move on.

Fuck that. Someone says "I don't like Seinfeld" you gonna "respect their wishes" or talk about it? Once again "Paedogeddon" means that the subject can't be talked about without arbitrary and special deference given to it. Alarmist hysteria.

Here's a better idea. Someone makes a joke about something that they do find funny, *don't tell them it's not, and try to convince them that they are somehow bad people for it*.

g-mile7

07-13-2006, 11:02 AM

i agree with ace

hail to black humor!

We make the world spin like round ball yo

Funkyfreshgrape

07-13-2006, 11:02 AM

this is dumb!

Dorothy Wood

07-13-2006, 11:04 AM

as for molestation, you're forgetting the reason it fucks people up so bad. it's because it may have felt good, so you have guilty feelings along with the anger of being victimized. Your natural instincts to enjoy sex/intimate touching get tainted by the incident(s). The victims are subject to more mentally damaging experiences than perhaps a person who's family was killed in front of them. but, you know, I suppose you could ask batman about that.

I don't laugh at molestation jokes. They're too easy, we're talking Jay Leno humor. also, my stepdad molested my friend while I was right next to her asleep, then committed suicide! awesome! it haunts me today and affects my relationships with men! woo hoo!

I do laugh at suicide jokes though. (y)

as for the topic, I basically don't trust anyone. I'm always looking for the worst so I can avoid getting hurt.

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 11:09 AM

Fuck that. Someone says "I don't like Seinfeld" you gonna "respect their wishes" or talk about it? Once again "Paedogeddon" means that the subject can't be talked about without arbitrary and special deference given to it. Alarmist hysteria.

Here's a better idea. Someone makes a joke about something that they do find funny, *don't tell them it's not, and try to convince them that they are somehow bad people for it*.

First off, I didn't say it's not; Thus "it's great that you find that funny." I'm not trying to convince you that you're a bad person either, I'm trying to get you to realize why it's inappropriate to say this shit to Pauli.

I've met people that don't like Seinfeld. I don't care if they don't have the same views as me, everyone has different humor and tastes and no matter how hard I try to explain why *I* think it's funny. What the hell do I care what they think? Chalk it up to differences and don't shove it down their throats.

Either way, it's easy to have balls online. Go tell the US Marines what you think of their service, go to a crisis support group and tell them why it's so funny their parents are dead, go explain to people why it's just so fucking funny even if they don't agree. After all, your beautiful insight is going to waste here, it should be going to people who really need to hear what you think.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:10 AM

as for molestation, you're forgetting the reason it fucks people up so bad. it's because it may have felt good, so you have guilty feelings along with the anger of being victimized. Your natural instincts to enjoy sex/intimate touching get tainted by the incident(s). The victims are subject to more mentally damaging experiences than perhaps a person who's family was killed in front of them. but, you know, I suppose you could ask batman about that.

While that is very astute, there are plenty of other examples which are comparable. Many religious institutions teach repression of sexuality, which does cause feelings of guilt, etc. Watching a parent die of AIDS could likewise cause debilitating sexual neuroses. And certainly, being too scared to enter a vehicle is at least as debilitating as sexual hang-ups.

While I am not trying to downplay any personal tragedy, I am still unconvinced by the arguments that molestation is somehow unthinkably worse than anything else the world or humanity can throw at you.

g-mile7

07-13-2006, 11:11 AM

Talk bout making this thread into a example :)

g-mile7

07-13-2006, 11:12 AM

First off, I didn't say it's not; I said everyone finds different things funny. Thus "it's great that you find that funny." I'm not trying to convince you that you're a bad person either, I'm trying to get you to realize why it's inappropriate to say this shit to Pauli.

I've met people that don't like Seinfeld. I don't care if they don't have the same views as me, everyone has different humor and tastes and no matter how hard I try to explain why *I* think it's funny. What the hell do I care what they think? Chalk it up to differences and don't shove it down their throats.

Either way, it's easy to have balls online. Go tell the US Marines what you think of their service, go to a crisis support group and tell them why it's so funny their parents are dead, go explain to people why it's just so fucking funny even if they don't agree. After all, your beautiful insight is going to waste here, it should be going to people who really need to hear what you think.

thats true.......growing them just for an hour of internet chat ahaha

ms.peachy

07-13-2006, 11:18 AM

While I am not trying to downplay any personal tragedy, I am still unconvinced by the arguments that molestation is somehow unthinkably worse than anything else the world or humanity can throw at you.
But you're not able to exhibit any compassion for anyone's personal tragedy either, it would seem. Saying something like "I'm really sorry if something I said hurt you Pauli" is so much harder than producing a litany of reasons why you are absolutely, unequivocably right in your position, I guess. Especially when it's so clear that hey - you're not sorry! Damn it! You don't have to be! You're right!

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:25 AM

Chalk it up to differences and don't shove it down their throats.

Clearly you miss the point of a forum, then. A large body of any forum involves "This sucks", "no YOU suck," etc.

Either way, it's easy to have balls online. Go tell the US Marines what you think of their service, go to a crisis support group and tell them why it's so funny their parents are dead, go explain to people why it's just so fucking funny even if they don't agree. After all, your beautiful insight is going to waste here, it should be going to people who really need to hear what you think.

Yes, well said. I am glad I have you here to talk a load of frustrated irrelevent twaddle.

1. Balls are irrelevent. As much as a lot of the posters here are no doubt dying to see me get a fist in the face, when it comes to the crunch it wouldn't change a damn thing. My opinions will still be as valid or invalid as ever, and all it proves is that whoever threw it is more confident with mindless violence than presenting a rational argument.

Many people in the wrong often get frustrated when reminded of it. This is hardly a vindication of *their* stance.

2. Am I saying *their personal tragedies* are funny? Have I said that at all? No. What I am saying is that the fact that they have had personal tragedies doesn't make a general topic off limits, and it is ridiculous to expect people to censor themselves based on that. The family of that prisoner who commited suicide in Guantanamo - think they'll be laughing their ass off at the Colbert report? "Hohohoho, making light of the prisoners in there and their illegal detention, tee-hee!"

You're being a fucking hypocrit, and you know it, which is why you are trying to go off on this ridiculous tangent about how I should go out of my way to offend individuals, which is something I haven't actually done at all here.

It is also why you feel the need to describe a mastabatory scenario where I am "punished" for that most heinous of crimes, voicing an unpopular opinion.

Fuck you.

Dorothy Wood

07-13-2006, 11:26 AM

While that is very astute, there are plenty of other examples which are comparable. Many religious institutions teach repression of sexuality, which does cause feelings of guilt, etc. Watching a parent die of AIDS could likewise cause debilitating sexual neuroses. And certainly, being too scared to enter a vehicle is at least as debilitating as sexual hang-ups.

While I am not trying to downplay any personal tragedy, I am still unconvinced by the arguments that molestation is somehow unthinkably worse than anything else the world or humanity can throw at you.

part of why molestation may seem to be the most evil thing, is because it's mostly kept a secret. if your mom dies in a car crash, you don't really keep that a secret. I do think that any kind of trauma that occurs when you're a child affects your personality and the choices you make for the rest of your life. I only say this because myself and my family on both sides has endured various traumas of different sorts (molestation, physical/mental abuse, drug addiction, alcoholism, sociopathology) and I know that my mother/father/uncles/aunts are still reacting and living their lives in a way that is a result of said trauma. Some of them used it as a motivating factor and are now very successful adults. Others are still floundering.

I also think that molestation is very common, although it's been kept secret. I suppose joking about it would bring it to light more often. so, Creepy McGee sitting in the audience might think twice about fondling his 12 year old neighbor? I don't know, I just thought of that.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:32 AM

Saying something like "I'm really sorry if something I said hurt you Pauli" is so much harder than producing a litany of reasons why you are absolutely, unequivocably right in your position, I guess. Especially when it's so clear that hey - you're not sorry! Damn it! You don't have to be! You're right!

Oh, sorry, I didn't realise that the whole thread and conversation was about Pauli's feelings. But hey, why talk about the topic in hand when we can all sit down and talk about each other's feelings!

I mean, that's the most important thing, right? How a complete stranger I will never meet feels about me voicing my opinions.

You may not have noticed this, Peachy, but I am not a woman, I do not have tits. I am not posting here to make everyone feel all super-special happy, and if you feel that is what I "should" be doing, well then I'm sorry for disappointing you.

But hey, why should I use this forum to voice a controversial opinion when I could post in a style solely designed to fit in nicely with your expectations!

I could apologise for voicing unpopular opinions, Peachy, and if my posts upset people, it is a shame. If I upset Pauli, then I am sorry, in that I would rather not upset her. But I am not going to censor myself or pretend my opinions are other than they are just to maintain a status quo I neither recognise, respect or care for? Get it?

DroppinScience

07-13-2006, 11:32 AM

Can someone put a voodoo curse on Ace's fingers or something? Carpal tunnel syndrome?

Anything that'll get Ace to stop using his keyboard...

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:35 AM

Anything that'll get Ace to stop using his keyboard...

Hey, I could say the same about your weiner, and that for Queenie's own good, even though she may not acknowledge it.

DroppinScience

07-13-2006, 11:38 AM

I'm still waiting on that voodoo curse, guys...

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:39 AM

I'm still waiting on that voodoo curse, guys...

It may not have reached your weiner, but judging by your gormless mug, mine has worked in double-quick time. Kudos to whoever was responsible.

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 11:40 AM

Ace's arguments aren't even upsetting anymore. It's amusing more than anything. And so adorable how he tries so hard when he's in the wrong.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:42 AM

Ace's arguments aren't even upsetting anymore. It's amusing more than anything. And so adorable how he tries so hard when he's in the wrong.

And it is adorable how you pretend to have won when you've been made to look like a fool. Just like in that poll thread that got deleted where you claimed a moral victory while everyone else was chuckling at your histrionics.

By adorable, I mean a bit sad. Same goes to you referring to me in the third person in an effort to appear "aloof" about 2 posts after condescending to try and answer me ineptly. ANOTHER thing that is sad is your qdrop-esque pop-psychology that you pull out for a quick ad-hominem whenever you've got no rebuttal.

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 11:46 AM

Hahahha, being made a fool and not wanting to argue because you're better than explaining to an internet stubborn jackass who's unwilling to listen to anyone else are two different things.

Tell me, if I replied, would you not take apart every sentence I said, quote them individually, and grab at straws to "tear me a new one"? I have a rebuttal. You're not worth it, honey. I know it won't go anywhere. You know it won't go anywhere. You'll claim a false "internet victory" because nothing gets you off more than thinking you've won an 1NT3RN3T B4++L3! :rolleyes:

Waus

07-13-2006, 11:47 AM

Either way, it's easy to have balls online. Go tell the US Marines what you think of their service, go to a crisis support group and tell them why it's so funny their parents are dead, go explain to people why it's just so fucking funny even if they don't agree. After all, your beautiful insight is going to waste here, it should be going to people who really need to hear what you think.

That's not really fair - I mean there's lots of places where people make fun of things that other people might take seriously besides the internet. No one chastises Fight Club for making fun of cancer victims (remember that part...with the dying chick?) but it's still making jokes about something that could be a very sensitive issue for someone else.

The real issue here isn't whether it's okay to joke about it or not, it's when it's okay to joke about it. If it's going to offend Pauli, then it's not an okay time, that doesn't mean it's wrong to make light of it ever again.

Saying Ace was wrong for joking about it is stupid, but defending the right to joke about it in any situation is just as short-sighted I think.

zorra_chiflada

07-13-2006, 11:48 AM

bandwagon

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 11:50 AM

The real issue here isn't whether it's okay to joke about it or not, it's when it's okay to joke about it. If it's going to offend Pauli, then it's not an okay time, that doesn't mean it's wrong to make light of it ever again.

Bingo. And me telling him to go tell others what he thinks is the SAME THING as him telling Pauli in this thread, just on a larger scale. It's inappropriate to tell them why it's funny, just like it is to tell Pauli why he thinks it's funny.

DroppinScience

07-13-2006, 11:50 AM

Keep digging your grave, Ace. Keep it up! (y)

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:51 AM

Hahahha, being made a fool and not wanting to argue because you're better than explaining to an internet stubborn jackass who's unwilling to listen to anyone else are two different things.

Indeed, however you do not want to argue because your attempts often make you look like a fool. As I pointed out, your attempt to do so in the "who's the hottest" poll thread resulted in much derision aimed at you, and had it not been wiped, I'd point you to the examples.

Tell me, if I replied, would you not take apart every sentence I said, quote them individually, and grab at straws to "tear me a new one"?

I'd make such points as were necessary to convey my side of the argument. I suppose I could let your unfounded slurs and accusations slide, but if you took the time to make them, why should I not take the time to rebut?

You're not worth it, honey.

Golden.

You'll claim a false "internet victory" because nothing gets you off more than thinking you've won an 1NT3RN3T B4++L3! :rolleyes:

And nothing gets you off more than trying to pretend you have a handle on someone so you can marginalise their opinions in an ad hominem attack without having to deal with the content.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:53 AM

Keep digging your grave, Ace. Keep it up! (y)

I don't know what's sadder, your pussy-whipped transparent bias, or the fact that you don't have the common sense to keep it quiet.

You do realise that cheerleading only makes you look like a cunt, yes?

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 11:55 AM

Want to talk about cunts? Why do you even come here if you know majority of the people think you're a dick, anyways?

It's sad, really.

Waus

07-13-2006, 11:55 AM

I see the worst in people because instead of trying to end arguments they try to keep them going.

I see the best in people because "INT3RN3TS W4R" keeps me entertained at work.

zorra_chiflada

07-13-2006, 11:57 AM

i really need to go to bed now, but this is too good.:(

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 11:57 AM

I see the worst in people because instead of trying to end arguments they try to keep them going.

Yeah, it's sad why Ace doesn't figure this out. He's got some sort of mentality that if he stops with his quoting and attacking, no matter how little the attacks are and irrelevant to the overall point, someone will think he's weak.

And when you try to end arguments, he doesn't see it as the other person not giving a shit about arguing, he sees it as victory. Sad.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 11:59 AM

Want to talk about cunts? Why do you even come here if you know majority of the people think you're a dick, anyways?

It's sad, really.

It's sad that I don't feel the need to use the place as a feel-good frat house? That my self-image isn't realiant on how a bunch of strangers perceive me? That I use the forum for something other than a circle-jerk?

I can see why you'd consider message board popularity to be so paramount, given that you found your paramour here.

QueenAdrock

07-13-2006, 12:00 PM

Well I just know if I went to a party where everyone said "go home Diana," I wouldn't stay and argue with them why I r00led so much. That's just me, though.

That my self-image isn't realiant on how a bunch of strangers perceive me?

hahhaha (y) right.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 12:00 PM

Yeah, it's sad why Ace doesn't figure this out.

And when you try to end arguments, he doesn't see it as the other person not giving a shit about arguing, he sees it as victory. Sad.

Yah, it's sad how I keep this argument going by continuing to post in this thread, where you continue to talk about me...

Because you put the argument to an immediate end by ceasing to post in the thread after you made your first post!

Hypocritical windbag.

Waus

07-13-2006, 12:01 PM

^^ That doesn't help!

Most of the points Ace made weren't wrong. He was just defending his right to joke about child molestation. I actually agree with him that it's okay to joke about it.

Once someone takes offense though that's my cue to drop it. What's wrong is that people started attacking Ace, when really they should keep it objective and attack the use of molestation jokes where they're unwanted.

enree erzweglle

07-13-2006, 12:02 PM

Want to talk about cunts? Why do you even come here if you know majority of the people think you're a dick, anyways?

It's sad, really.When threads get to this point where people wish physical harm on people and discussions get reduced to arguments and those get reduced to insults. That's what's sad and that's when I think that I've absolutely had enough of this message board.

Ace42X

07-13-2006, 12:02 PM

Well I just know if I went to a party where everyone said "go home Diana," I wouldn't stay and argue with them why I r00led so much. That's just me, though.

Yah, except this isn't a party. Sorry to burst your bubble. It's a forum where people are free to express their opinions, no matter how unpopular. But hey, who am I to say that this forum should be about anything other than people revoicing the same populist non-controversial stances ad infinitum.

Oh, and don't you think it is a little arrogant to assume that everyone thinks I should leave? You, in your pride, might not have noticed the voices of support in here.