Should I stay, or should I go?

[Ace42X]

Another Clash track titled thread, please can we avoid posting clichéd Clash lyrics to this thread in a sad attempt to be funny? Thankyou.

For the morons:
If you don't like me, vote me out now. This is not an attention whoring thread / poll. I am more than happy to leave so I do not have to listen to your ignorant bleating anymore. I repeat: I will be leaving, unlike Freebaser or Qdrop, and jokey "I just voted 'cause I thought it would be funny" votes *will* be counted.

Terms and Conditions apply, see the bottom of the post.

An explanation for the literate:
Having recently been personally attacked on here by several posters for no other reason than they have an axe to grind with me, I have gotten fed-up of ad hominem attempts to marginalise my (admittedly unpopular) opinions. As I pointed out to Queenie in Pauli's "Why do you see the worst in people?" thread, I am not the instigator of this, and I'd say to everyone who has received a bespoke cussing: You sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind.

Having taken the baying of losers in good humour for quite long enough, I have decided to answer my detractors collectively, because they have now felt the need to all criticise me collectively, behind the perceived safety of Qdrop's generic and repetitive cussing. As well as behind the perceived anonimity of several aliases.

It is time for you to put up, or shut up.

Do not feel you have to withold censure (by means of a vote) because you think it would be "childish" or "petty" or "juvenile" - afterall, a single vote is a lot less so than threads worth of cheap shots. Do not say (to yourself, or anyone else) "It is his right to post, so I should not vote, even though I dislike him." This is not the place for fence-sitting, or bashfulness, or putting forward your pro-free-speech credentials. It is NOT the place for you to vote "stay" "because I like insulting him, haw-haw".

Similarly, do not feel you have to explain yourself. I appreciate that many of you do not "get" me, and many never will. You need not trouble yourselves constructing elaborate explanations / justifications of why I shouldn't post here, when the actual reason is much simpler. You have a subjective dislike of me and / or my posts.

This is NOT an attention whoring thread. I am not asking for people to beg me to stay, or rally to my defence. Nor am I exercising a bizarre mastabatory desire to have insults heaped on my by detractors. A single vote will suffice either way.

Emphasis on *SINGLE* vote. When tallying the results, I will be discounting votes made by likely aliases (low post counts, recently created accounts) as well as known aliases. So, if you have plenty of aliases, whether they are known or not, tough luck, they are going to be discounted, serves you right for being a shifty fuck.

Also, unlike Qdrop, I WILL be leaving for good. Last time I "left", I returned only due to the direct request of several posters, following the banning of Gizmo. I only stayed at their request. And if I have over-stayed my welcome... well I guess we'll find out. I have certainly over-stayed my ability to deal with the large number of boring inane pricks that frequent this forum and feel the need to make cheap empty shots randomly.

Now, some potential FAQs for the curious (so I do not have to answer questions individually and repeatedly):

Why am I happy to leave?
A number of reasons.
1. Most of you people suck. Your posts are boring, self-referential, egotistical, ignorant, irrational, unamusing and pointless.
2. General Politics is nearly dead. I attribute this to the fact that all the republonuts bar Valvano have been squashed, and the new ones are too ashamed of their party, president, and policies to come out of the woodwork and try making even hollow cases. Those that have tried have been schooled so quickly and deciseively that they scurried right back under their rocks. Despite idiots like Qdrop saying that it is "a liberal circle jerk" - I think the current drought of posts indicates the opposite. The silence is due to people preferring to say nothing than to say pointless self-reassuring feel-good me-too posts.
3. While I feel obliged, almost duty-bound, to "call it like I see it" and speak out against what I think is wrong, I do not feel the need to repeat myself ad infinitum while my arguments fall of deaf ears. If people have tuned out and don't want to listen to my arguments and reasoning any more, then fine, fuck you. I'm more than happy to be Cassandra to you Trojans, and I'm more than happy to deny myself the opportunity to say "I told you so!" when the Achaeans are at the gates.
4. Several of you are petty hypocrites who take issue with me criticising the body of people's posts, while taking every opportunity to hound me personally. I do have better things to do than respond to empty personal abuse put together by a group of naively arrogant slack-wits, contrary to their barbs against my personal scheduling.
5. I am under-appreciated, and if you people don't like a steady stream of witty, sophisticated, insightful and original posts, then you can sink in your own feculence.

What happens in the unlikely event that the majority of voters want me to stay?
Well, I'll refer nay-sayers offering only personal criticisms to the poll results, and invite them to fuck the hell off, as people LIKE me posting here and want me to stay. I'll also point out that if they have a problem with me, and didn't vote against me, they only have themselves to blame.

What happens if I leave, despite having a sizeable body of support?
Then I invite my supporters to point out to all the people who voted to get rid of me that you'd much rather I were here than them, and that if they respected (I use that term loosely and under advisement) popular opinion half as much as I do, they'd fuck off and stop making the forum so shit too. I'd also advise people join the xelium IRC channel, which is at the moment under-populated, and in need of some decent conversationalists.

What do you anticipate from this poll, Cassandra?
Disinterest from a lot of people, apathy from people who are otherwise entertained by my post, a lack of responses from General Politics regulars who'd potentially swing the vote in my favour, and an overwhelming drive from every idiot I have ever cussed to vote for me to leave. I make this thread and poll knowing this, and finding this outcome perfectly satisfactory. Maybe some inept cussings from lamers who haven't read through the body of this post, and some half hearted "but I like you" one-liners from a small handful of people who are pretty much fence-sitters.

[alexandra]

GO!

I HATE THAT SONG!

[Ace42X]

I HATE THAT SONG!

I will be leaving, unlike Freebaser or Qdrop, and jokey "I just voted 'cause I thought it would be funny" votes *will* be counted..

[jackrock]

I say stay. I enjoy lots of your jokes btw.

[Tzar]

you don't have a "i don't give a shit what you do" voting option.

that's where i'd be voting.

[Lex Diamonds]

If Malcolm X had put up a vote to the entire population of America as to whether he should leave the country forever and go into political silence, the world would be a worse place today. The masses are often idiots, so don't pay attention to the results of this poll.

It's good to have someone like you around who injects a bit of intellect
Into these endless threads about sex and other petty subjects.

^ haha that was a sick rhyme

But yeah, stay dude. (y)

[Ace42X]

you don't have a "i don't give a shit what you do" voting option.
that's where i'd be voting.

Did it not occur to you to simply *ignore the thread then*.
Dolt.

[Tzar]

you made this thread for people's opinions.
i'm giving one...

[Bob]

you're ok

[Ace42X]

you made this thread for people's opinions.
i'm giving one...

No, I made this thread for the reason I specified. Hence me intentionally leaving out an apathy option on the poll, and specifically stating that only a vote was necessary, not an explanation. However, if that was too ambiguous for you, that includes an explanation to why you didn't vote too.

[Tzar]

alright, there, i posted.

you want to leave but you know you won't be able to.

[Lex Diamonds]

Look you won the poll anyway, dispute resolved. No need for Ace to leave, everyone who doesn't like it can eat a dick.

May as well just close the thread now.

[HAL 9000]

Stay, otherwise this board would be quite bland.

[Randetica]

you know that i love you and your posts
but if you dont like it here then just leave or pimp your ignore list

your choice, babes


(but i sure would miss your posts)

[Ace42X]

Look you won the poll anyway,

It's not over until the fat lady sings. The poll will be open for about a month to guarantee that even infrequently posting regulars get a say.

[enree erzweglle]

I say stay although I understand the need to leave or think about it. I've been mulling over the same things personally and it has little to do with feeling irritated by some of the posts or posters here (although that sort of impatience does happen). It's more just about whether/not people get me--do enough people get enough of me, people like me, to make it worthwhile. I suspect that there are some who do, but maybe most others maybe just want to give/get one-liners, try to be witty and sarcastic, and take the chance to talk about getting and being drunk. Which is fine, but I'd rather not. I'd rather explore different themes. So I think about that--is there too much of a disconnect. I'm not sure. I think so.

I'm just thinking and typing here.

Anyway, I enjoy your posts even though I don't always agree with what you've got to say. You clearly think and are educated, and that makes me think and rethink. A lot of life is about doing a lot of that and that's great.

[Ace42X]

I suspect that there are some who do, but maybe most others maybe just want to give/get one-liners, try to be witty and sarcastic, and take the chance to talk about getting and being drunk. Which is fine, but I'd rather not. I'd rather explore different themes. So I think about that--is there too much of a disconnect. I'm not sure. I think so.

I concur with your assessment, and you are not alone in thinking this, as Nuzz and Zipp's posts in the following thread testify.
http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=65848

[Lex Diamonds]

I know I'm not the most popular person here, and if I left, no one would notice. But I keep coming back because now I know about these people and now I have like a sort of emotional connection or whatever the fuck you wanna call it. I wanna stay, so I do. It's up to you, homie, not the people that hate you.

[enree erzweglle]

I concur with your assessment, and you are not alone in thinking this, as Nuzz and Zipp's posts in the following thread testify.
http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=65848Right. I remember that thread. It seems that more and more, those sorts of discussions get quashed or they degrade much more quickly than they should or have in the past. I know that communities like this go through highs and lows, but it feels like we've been in a monotonous low for a bit of a long time.

[DustSucker]

Even though I'm a green as can be rookie on this board (and my vote won't count by your rules), I don't mind you staying. Most of your posts i've read have been entertaining and most of the time firmly backed with good arguments.

[enree erzweglle]

I know I'm not the most popular person here, and if I left, no one would notice. But I keep coming back because now I know about these people and now I have like a sort of emotional connection or whatever the fuck you wanna call it. I wanna stay, so I do. It's up to you, homie, not the people that hate you.I would notice if you left. There are some great people here, yes, I just wish more of them would get a little more vocal. Sometimes, the negativity of the prominent...ugh.

[Randetica]

I know I'm not the most popular person here, and if I left, no one would notice.

i know your 12 incher better than you
and if youre just half as good then i would rape you if you ever tried to leave

omg leave already!

[Lex Diamonds]

*walks out of door, lubing cock as he goes*

[Randetica]

rape time! lol (y)

[Lex Diamonds]

Wie sagt mann "rape" auf Deutsch?

[Randetica]

vergewaltigen
yeah doesnt sound very romantic in german


ace stay godammit!

[Lex Diamonds]

vergewaltigen
yeah doesnt sound very romantic in german
Haha romantic. :D(y)

reminded me of this (http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Matt/ass-rape-man.jpg)

[The Notorious LOL]

im pretty much indifferent

[Ace42X]

im pretty much indifferent

That's important why?

[Kid Presentable]

You're lucky you weren't proclaimed 'boring'. Ace, strangers are mostly just enemies you haven't learned to hate yet. I stay here because back-and-forth with the people I hate here is just easier than learning to hate new fuckwits.

[The Notorious LOL]

That's important why?


because you asked for others opinions of whether or not you remain on the board with your long ass drawn out original post, which gave me a feeling of total indifference.

[Kid Presentable]

TNLOL, when people say 'hello', do you reply "Too much information!!!"?

[Ace42X]

because you asked for others opinions of whether or not you remain on the board

No, I didn't. Read it again. I specifically said "this is not the place for fence-sitting." I even, in a subsequent post, clarified it further (I thought it was quite clear already) that apathy is totally irrelevent to the subject in hand. I am not asking what people think of me, or "thinking of me possibly leaving."

I specifically said commenting on the subject wasn't necessary.

As the poll should indicate, when I said "stay OR go" I meant one or the other, not "stay, go, or talk at length about your apathy to the whole subject."

[g-mile7]

stay.

[alexandra]

so much effort. he even put it in his signature.

[Ace42X]

so much effort. he even put it in his signature.

Indeed, it would be pointless if, in a month's time when I tell someone "hey, most people want me here, so shut the fuck up" they said "oh, come on, hardly anyone noticed! It's unrepresentative.

If I'm going to be leaving over this, I'm going to make sure it is done right, once and for all. There will not be any "do-overs" for it.

[g-mile7]

You do what you want to do. End of story. I think you should stay, there are worst posters on here then yourself. Funny thing is they might be considered the best:D (irony)

[Knuckles]

so much effort. he even put it in his signature.
This thread gave me a sweet sig. (y)

I, much like Padster, keep coming back here to check up on the people who I "know". It was pretty cool to see that Heiress was hanging out with Boomin', Cos, and Echewta this weekend.

I don't have time anymore to sift through all the shit threads to find the real gems.:(

Oh, and Ace should stay.

[Dorothy Wood]

a month!? you fag. if you leave, who's going to call people bints? :mad:

[Bob]

a month!? you fag. if you leave, who's going to call people bints? :mad:

i can probably pick up the slack for a while

[Lex Diamonds]

i can probably pick up the slack for a while
Shut up you bint!

[Bob]

Shut up you bint!


stop trying to steal my job you uh, plonker

[Lex Diamonds]

stop trying to steal my job you uh, plonker
Whatever, wench.

[Qdrop]

oh, don't leave...you stupid fuck.

christ, i think you are incredibely pretentious, arrogant, and beyond egotistical....
it's like looking in a mirror.


i enjoy our wars....
and sometimes we get along.





for the record, my stupid fuckin poll was to leave Beastie Free, not the board, and it ended pretty 50/50, though i think there was a slight edge in negatives once the alias votes took over.....and i actually got some surprisingly supporting remarks that changed my mind slightly...thus my announcement that i wouldn't leave, but spend much less time on BF and stick to the other forums...unless intersting topics opened up on BF.
which i overall held to until recently....but i'll be slinking back away from this section soon enough...as my company's busy season is starting up soon.

both of our brayings fall on deaf ears pretty regularly...we have BOTH been stereotyped to the point that many just partition us off into little caricatures and pay little mind.
i hate that....but i deal with it.
shit, i've all but done that with you when start in with your I HATE AMERICA masturbation episodes...

but i have stayed because of the fact that there are others who actually do appreciate a good sheriff.
you should do the same.

[enree erzweglle]

This is like a version of Big Brother. BBMBBB. BBBBMB. B4MB. Anyway, will the last one standing on the boards get $1m.

[g-mile7]

oh, don't leave...you stupid fuck.

christ, i think you are incredibely pretentious, arrogant, and beyond egotistical....
it's like looking in a mirror.


i enjoy our wars....
and sometimes we get along.





for the record, my stupid fuckin poll ended pretty 50/50, though i think there was a slight edge in negatives once the alias votes took over.....and i actually got some surprisingly supporting remarks that changed my mind slightly...thus my announcement that i wouldn't leave, but spend much less time on BF and stick to the other forums...unless intersting topics opened up on BF.
which i overall held to until recently....but i'll be slinking back away from this section soon enough...as my company's busy season is starting up soon.

both of our brayings fall on deaf ears pretty regularly...we have BOTH been stereotyped to the point that many just partition us off into little caricatures and pay little mind.
i hate that....but i deal with it.
shit, i've all but done that with you when start in with your I HATE AMERICA masturbation episodes...

but i have stayed because of the fact that there are others who actually do appreciate a good sheriff.
you should do the same.

You enjoy the persona that they, and somewhat yourself, have given you. You've said so yourself. And you voted Yed leave, but then posted this. John Kerry?

[Qdrop]

i would advise, however.....to

A.) delete this when you are done....as (just like mine), this is incredibley childish, nerdy, and beyond embarrasing to yourself.

B.) never try this in future. despite your noteriaty on Political, you are still somewhat new to the BF section. People still find you amusing due to your "newness"...you still have some trend left.
but, like me, it wears thin on people once they inevitabley become victims of your attacks (even though they bring it upon themselves)....you popularity will be replaced by a general seething.
it happens.

[Qdrop]

And you voted Yed leave, but then posted this. John Kerry?

i did?

shit my bad.

i honestly meant to vote for him to stay...
count the votes accordingly.

[Bob]

This is like a version of Big Brother. BBMBBB. BBBBMB. B4MB. Anyway, will the last one standing on the boards get $1m.

i'm all for this

[g-mile7]

i did?

shit my bad.

i honestly meant to vote for him to stay...
count the votes accordingly.


Not like it matters anyway, it's a landslide. As it should be.

[Planetary]

stay please. i like how you insult people.

[Qdrop]

stay please. i like how you insult people.

until he insults you.

then it all changes.

[Waus]

A number of reasons.
1. Most of you people suck.

Hahahahahahaaa

[cosmo105]

SERIOUS INTERNET BIDNESS

[yeahwho]

I wasn't too sure what all the serious "Ace42X" hate was about other than some posters appeared to not be satisfied with your compassion level, yet your stand on human hatred and equality has always been stellar.

And the "General Politics" section is weak. Uninteresting. You've always put in the effort to keep it worthwhile, it really sucked when you left during the sisko ordeal. I for one cannot tell you how happy I was when you decided to come back and post again after that.

Fuck being polite for polites sake. Stick around.

[Planetary]

until he insults you.

then it all changes.

i can't see him having reason to insult me, and if he does then i'm sure i'll deserve it (y)

[Qdrop]

i can't see him having reason to insult me, and if he does then i'm sure i'll deserve it (y)

holy shit......




why don't you tickle his balls while you blow him.....

[Planetary]

what's so ass kissing about that comment?

we generally have similar views, so if he insults me then it's more than likely that i will have insulted him.

[beastiegirrl101]

show your faccia Ace, and then I will decide if you should stay or leave.

[Ace42X]

show your faccia Ace, and then I will decide if you should stay or leave.

What's in it for me? Several posters have seen my face - can ask them for a general description if that will help.

[Dorothy Wood]

he looks like a t-rex. roarrr.

[Ace42X]

I am not sure whether to be insulted or flattered. The roar makes me lean to the latter though.

[Qdrop]

What's in it for me? Several posters have seen my face - can ask them for a general description if that will help.

if you know the right people, you can get a link to his Internet Dating Bio too,

that was a hoot.

[cookiepuss]

er I still don't like you ace. BUT, I do not think you should leave. I quite enjoy not liking you. and if you go then I have to find someone else not to like. I just don't have time to do that sort of thing.

[Ace42X]

That technically falls under:

It is NOT the place for you to vote "stay" "because I like insulting him, haw-haw".

And would predicate a "go" vote.

[beastiegirrl101]

if you're eye candy you can stay.

ok ...I assume you to just rip me to shreds now.

[Ace42X]

if you're eye candy you can stay.

Guess we'll need a seperate poll for that then.

[Rock]

if you know the right people, you can get a link to his Internet Dating Bio too,

that was a hoot.
ooooooooooo those are always good. come on Q i know you have it somewhere..share.

Ace...stay or leave...i don't give a fuck.

[Miho Mingu]

STAY HERE.

[Schmeltz]

I don't think anyone should leave on the basis of the opinions of others (with the exception of sisko, who as a perfect troll had nothing to contribute whatsoever). I don't like racer's opinions or the smarmy way he expresses them, but I certainly don't think that's grounds for him to leave. I like your well-thought-out posts and you're certainly a tenacious debater, as the lengthy quote wars with Enigma have shown us, so stick around. Fuck the haters.

Alright, that's enough internet drama for this month.

[Qdrop]

I don't think anyone should leave on the basis of the opinions of others (with the exception of sisko, who as a perfect troll had nothing to contribute whatsoever). I don't like racer's opinions or the smarmy way he expresses them, but I certainly don't think that's grounds for him to leave. I like your well-thought-out posts and you're certainly a tenacious debater, as the lengthy quote wars with Enigma have shown us, so stick around. Fuck the haters.

Alright, that's enough internet drama for this month.

oh sure, mock me whe I make a ridiculous "stay or go" thread....but pat Ace on the back...

sure...SURE....

[Schmeltz]

But you were just joking with yours.

PUT THE KNIFE DOWN ACE YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR

[QueenAdrock]

because you asked for others opinions of whether or not you remain on the board with your long ass drawn out original post, which gave me a feeling of total indifference.

(y)

Yeah, I don't give half a shit either way. I'm surprised he's taking other people's opinions into consideration though, that seems to be a first.

Either way, once you're here, you can't leave. You'll try for a while, and get sucked back.

[DroppinScience]

While I voted "no" (my opinion), it's entirely up to you on whether you should stick around or leave. Not me, or anyone else. If you don't like it here, just vanish. If you want to continue to be here, then stay.

In closing, don't base your decision on what the results say.

(This is the same thing I said for Qdrop's "stay or go" thread [whiched I voted "stay", for the record])

[cookiepuss]

That technically falls under:



And would predicate a "go" vote.

but I'm still not voting go. I'm voting stay. you're nessary in the delicate balance of good and evil on this board. you leave and it will throw everything off ever so slightly...and whatever, who ever comes to fill the void left by you might be worse than you. we can't take that chance.

[Ace42X]

Your constant blaming America for all the world's problems has become boring.

Get a job Ace.

People hiding behind aliases to try and create the illusion of popular support has too. And I can't get a job, I'm in a wheelchair, remember?

Yeah, I don't give half a shit either way. I'm surprised he's taking other people's opinions into consideration though, that seems to be a first.

If you don't give a shit, why do you feel the need to say so? And, more importantly, if you don't give a shit, WHY BRING IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1241779&postcount=60).

If you don't give a shit, why spend so much time bitching, entering a thread solely to have a go at me, and then trying to pretend that *I* started it when that clearly WASN'T THE CASE? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1241814&postcount=74)

Face it, you do give a shit, I pissed you off, and now's your chance to do something about it, or step the fuck off.

[cookiepuss]

this is pretty awesome though...only ace could ask you your opinion and then argue the validity of your opinion. that's gotta count for something.(y)

[fucktopgirl]

I think you should do what you want, you dont need the approval of others people to live and express yourself. IF you like this place stay.. if not go!
But i think yolu should hang around because you are one of the most interesting person around this board!

Do what you want to do!

[TurdBerglar]

there's never enough assholes around here these days anyways

[Ace42X]

this is pretty awesome though...only ace could ask you your opinion and then argue the validity of your opinion. that's gotta count for something.(y)

Hey, did I ask for an opinion? No, I gave people the option to vote on whether I stay or go. I am not making a "decision" - I haven't even voted.

And yah, I certainly didn't ask to be bullshitted. Someone might tell me they have no problem with me, and then cuss me out all day every day, am I suppose to accept "they have no problem with me" ? Nah.

[QueenAdrock]

If you don't give a shit, why do you feel the need to say so? And, more importantly, if you don't give a shit, WHY BRING IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1241779&postcount=60).

If you don't give a shit, why spend so much time bitching, entering a thread solely to have a go at me, and then trying to pretend that *I* started it when that clearly WASN'T THE CASE? (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1241814&postcount=74)

Face it, you do give a shit, I pissed you off, and now's your chance to do something about it, or step the fuck off.

I feel the need to say I don't give a shit to let you know, yes I saw the thread, and no I'm not one of these people who is going to tell you to leave, but I'm not going to ask you to STAY either. It's up to you. And in that other thread, I was referring to the fact that you stay around here and just act like a general jerk-off to people and get them angry and for some reason, you love doing so and keep returning. I think that's sad that you get your jollies off of being cruel. I wasn't telling you to leave, I was asking why you stayed.

I really couldn't care if you posted again. Sometimes you're entertaining, sometimes you're a dick. Thus me not caring.

And in reference to the other thread, you started up shit with Pauli when you started telling her why you thought child molestation was so wonderfully hilarious. I simply told you that was crap. You had a go at Pauli, I called you out and gave my opinion that what you were telling her was some bullshit. So sorry.

[Ace42X]

I simply told you that was crap.

No, you posted a cuss-out of me, because you couldn't wait to have a dig. Just like you posting here to have a little bitch. The thread's all there, anyone can see it. I don't really see how you can spin it.

[QueenAdrock]

No, you posted a cuss-out of me, because you couldn't wait to have a dig. Just like you posting here to have a little bitch. The thread's all there, anyone can see it. I don't really see how you can spin it.

I didn't post a cuss-out of you. "One thing you gotta understand about Ace is that if you tell him what he did was inappropriate, instead of just apologizing and not saying anything again like a polite person would do, he instead explains his infallible reasoning and tries to make you think that it was justified," was what I said exactly. I just called you out for what you were doing, and what you always do.

I'm not here to have a little bitch, as much as your one-tracked mind likes to think. I don't care about starting something with you. I'm here to tell you that I really don't care either way. If you truly want to go and don't like the people here, leave. I'm not going to let someone from the 1nt3rn3t affect me enough to tell them that they don't have the right to be here. It's freedom of speech and if you want to stay, don't let other people tell you to go.

[Ace42X]

No, I guess that information must have gotten lost in the middle of all your "America is ultimately responsible for the world's problems" text.

How quickly they forget the empty lables of yesterday... But I can see how you'd miss things if you let other people construct your insults for you.

[Ace42X]

I'm calling BULLSHIT right here Ace.

You made a thread where the topic was YOU on a "DISCUSSION FORUM" so people would discuss YOU, and wheather or not they liked YOU. You enjoy the hatefull even more than you enjoy the respectfull.

Bullshit you didn't ask for people's opinions.

I am assuming you are very stupid, due to being in the same model as Capone's feeble aliases, and due to evidently only reading the "for morons" first paragraph, so I am sure you'll not get the point of this if you did not get it the first time:

Similarly, do not feel you have to explain yourself. I appreciate that many of you do not "get" me, and many never will. You need not trouble yourselves constructing elaborate explanations / justifications of why I shouldn't post here, when the actual reason is much simpler. You have a subjective dislike of me and / or my posts.

This is NOT an attention whoring thread. I am not asking for people to beg me to stay, or rally to my defence. Nor am I exercising a bizarre mastabatory desire to have insults heaped on my by detractors. A single vote will suffice either way.

[Ace42X]

It's freedom of speech and if you want to stay, don't let other people tell you to go.

Obviously you didn't read my initial post then... Freedom of speech is a non-issue here. I think I made it clear that, by constructing this thread and saying repeatedly I intend to leave if the votes are against me, that I had waived those rights for the purposes of these polls, and were giving people the opportunity to choose.

You might think I have a right to say things, that doesn't mean you have to like me saying them, and now's your opportunity to do something about it legitimately, fairly and with whatever justifications you choose to apply.

And, really, "I don't really care, I just care enough to tell you I don't care..."

Tsk. Surely you can see how self-contradictory that is?

[Ace42X]

You do unfairly blame America for a lot of things, don't you?

No, and if that is what you get out of my posts then you should either:

1. Read them again, this time carefully.
2. Give up, and try not to voice an opinion about the subject in general.
3. Learn the difference between an argument and an arguer, and not resort to ad hominem attacks.

Not trying to insult me? Then why bring up my employment status, which is both irrelevent and none of your business? Face it, you don't know anything about me, that's why you have to adopt Qdrop's empty branding as a mantra, just like Valvano, and Tone Capone, assuming you are not an alias of one of them already.

[cookiepuss]

Hey, did I ask for an opinion? No, I gave people the option to vote on whether I stay or go. I am not making a "decision" - I haven't even voted.

And yah, I certainly didn't ask to be bullshitted. Someone might tell me they have no problem with me, and then cuss me out all day every day, am I suppose to accept "they have no problem with me" ? Nah.

right right but wouldn't you say taking part in a poll is expressing an opinion? I mean techinically you should have said...no one respond in this thread only vote yes or no...that is if you really weren't curious as to what people would say and only wanted yes or no answers.

second. I'm not bullshitting you. I don't agree with most of what you say and I think you aren't really as high and mighty as you like to pretend that you are. You've said some horribly nasty things to me, and this shit about fucking peoples mothers is insulting even in jest. And yet you turn around a pm asking me if I have any request for your radio show like we are buddies or something and I was cordial but don't think that I've forggten about being called and air-headed, opinionated bitch. At any rate, we aren't friends and I don't trust you. BUT I"M STILL NOT VOTING YOU OFF THE ISLAND!

[QueenAdrock]

And, really, "I don't really care, I just care enough to tell you I don't care..."

Tsk. Surely you can see how self-contradictory that is?

That would be a valid argument if I said "I don't care about you," because that shows contradiction, my supposed-not caring about you or what you have to say, and staying in a thread. Thus me leaving the other thread, because I had enough of what you were saying, told you so, and left.

However, I said "I don't care if you stay," which is different from "I don't care about you," and fail to see how that's being contradictory.

You and I used to be friends, so I'm not going to be petty and mean and tell you to leave because you're a huge jerk. That's just not me.

[Ace42X]

right right but wouldn't you say taking part in a poll is expressing an opinion?

The "I don't care" option wasn't on the poll. And while I am facilitating people's ability to act on their opinions, I certainly don't care about the individual posts. I am going by the numbers.

I mean techinically you should have said...no one respond in this thread only vote yes or no...that is if you really weren't curious as to what people would say and only wanted yes or no answers.

The absence of anything else in the poll should've indicated that. And the fact that the sole purpose of the poll was a vote as to whether I would stay or go. As not caring has no bearing on whether I will stay or go, it is irrelevent. And I thought me saying "this isn't the place for..." was pretty much saying that. But I didn't want to be facistic and say "you can't talk amongst yourself." Tolerating other people expressing opinions is not the same as *asking* for them.

second. I'm not bullshitting you.

I didn't say you were, I meant the posters who have said "I don't care" (and who care enough to post to say they do not care) are. It was more aimed at Queenie's post, to which you referenced.

and I was cordial but don't think that I've forggten about being called and air-headed, opinionated bitch. At any rate, we aren't friends and I don't trust you. BUT I"M STILL NOT VOTING YOU OFF THE ISLAND!

I am friendly and cordial to plenty of people who I think are (or even just 'can be') reprehensible. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna call it as I see it when the situation arises. If you remember, it was *you* who called *me* a pig first and formost, and were speculating on what sort of person I was. Surely you can see how that can be construed as both opinionated and bitchy?

However, I said "I don't care if you stay," which is different from "I don't care about you," and fail to see how that's being contradictory.

You cannot care about me, but not care if I stay or go, as you only know and interact me from the board. If you care about me (IE through my posts, the only way you can care about me) then you must logically care about whether I post or not.

Nice try, sorry.

[Ace42X]

I brought up your employment status because if you aren't gainfully employed and pay taxes, then your opinions on politics are null and void to me.

Well how fucking scientific. I didn't realise that your employment status had any bearing on fact based arguments at all. Silly me. Now I see why you have no problem making unsubstantiated claims and criticisms without any argument behind them. Simply by "having a job and paying taxes" your opinions automatically have merit. It makes sense now.

I will endeavour not to contradict factual or logic errors in other people's posts from now on if they have been cleaning toilet-seats since they were 16 and can't even read, as they must still have a more worthwhile opinion than us "kids" who have actually got an education, and think about the world around them.

...and for the record, I'm not an alias. Wrong again Ace.

Then you're either:
1. A stinking big fat liar, which I don't doubt for a second.
2. A noob who should fuck off and not pretend he knows anything about me or my posts, as he has little or no experience on the subject. Get 5-10 hundred posts under your belt, read a few newspapers, then come back.
3. An e-stalker, who scares me in their dedication to researching me and my opinions.

In all cases, you should fuck off and get a clue.

[TurdBerglar]

ace sure does like to try to belittle people

[cookiepuss]

ace sure does like to try to belittle people
surely you're not just noticing that now, turdy.

[Ace42X]

ace sure does like to try to belittle people

See, this is one of the reasons why I am really not at all bothered by the prospect of leaving. Everyone (well, not EVERYONE) misses the point of what I am saying, and marginalises it with a shallow trivial misrepresentation of my point. And I'm fed up of being labled and catergorised and constrained, by people of limited imagination.

[TurdBerglar]

maybe you're just pointless?

well maybe not entirley pointless. you did make me post

[Ace42X]

maybe you're just pointless?

No, I know what points I am trying to make. And I know that when I am forced to dumb it down, I am either accused of condescension, or told "hey, you didn't mean that, you are back-peddaling!"

[TurdBerglar]

do you enjoy feeble minded fools?

[QueenAdrock]

You cannot care about me, but not care if I stay or go, as you only know and interact me from the board. If you care about me (IE through my posts, the only way you can care about me) then you must logically care about whether I post or not.

Nice try, sorry.

No, I used to interact with you on AIM also. I cared about you as a person, because you were kind to me when I was going through some rough times. However, since you have since been cruel to me on the board, those good feelings have pretty much been cancelled out. As a human being who was nice to me in my time of need, I care about you. But as a poster here who has been a jerk to me recently, I don't care about you. So it balances out to me not giving a shit about whether or not you post.

[Ace42X]

do you enjoy feeble minded fools?

For breakfast, or via their anuses?

[TurdBerglar]

i don't know how to think about that reply

[Ace42X]

Blah

Did everyone else get that? 'Cause I don't see how that amounts to her caring enough to post in threads to and about me, but not caring if I'm here to talk to.

[cookiepuss]

And I'm fed up of being labled and catergorised and constrained, by people of limited imagination.

and yet don't you see how you yourself have done this to everyone else here? you do it everytime you tell us how superiour your intellect is. you are guilty of the very thing you despise. I certainly feel you have labled, categorized and constrained me.

[QueenAdrock]

Did everyone else get that? 'Cause I don't see how that amounts to her caring enough to post in threads to and about me, but not caring if I'm here to talk to.

I care about posting in threads not so much for you, but because it keeps me entertained. Believe it or not, those 4,000+ posts aren't for other people, it's because I'm bored and typing responses and chatting about topics is interesting to me. It doesn't mean I care about the people, it means I feel like talking about whatever's being discussed.

[YoungRemy]

Ace knows America like no one else, he must stay to give us his analysis!

the media tells him so!

[Ace42X]

I certainly feel you have labled, categorized and constrained me.

Actually, if you recall, I said "one sentence isn't a lot to go on, but if you insist".
And I have certainly not brought it up repeatedly every time you have said something in a thread, going "pshaw, the airhead's at it again!"

http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1211887&postcount=112

That is quite different to saying "this is all you are, and this is all you ever will be."

I'd be interested to see if anyone has an example of me diving unprovoked into a thread and responding to their posts solely using ad hominem attacks.

[Ace42X]

It doesn't mean I care about the people, it means I feel like talking about whatever's being discussed.

Or, alternatively, changing the subject from what I said to "what I am like" in an effort to insult me, as my earlier link to Pauli's thread shows. You brought me, my personality, and my posting habits up, no-one else. You "felt" like talking about that, which means you care about it, and clearly by extension if I am here to post or not.

[QueenAdrock]

First off, I didn't do so to insult you. I did so to call you out and hopefully get you to realize what you were doing and get you to stop. If I wanted to be insulting, I would have been.

Secondly, that is true that I posted it up because I cared about what you said hurting Pauli. However, I don't care about it enough to tell you to leave the damn board. I don't think anything online could bother me enough to tell them to stop posting, because that's kinda stupid. Of course, unless they're being racist or spammers, in which case TPK/Minton takes care of it.

Simply put, I don't care if you post here because if you're gone, there's more than enough people to talk to instead. You don't contribute more than other people do. You being gone would not benefit me in any way, just as you staying would not benefit me in any way, either.

[Ace42X]

I posted it up because I cared about what you said hurting Pauli. However, I don't care about it enough to tell you to leave the damn board.

Ok, that wasn't so hard was it? Although you certainly gave the impression you did, by implying that I should leave: http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=1241779&postcount=60

So, all things being equal, am I to assume that you think my posts are meritous enough to outweigh / equal you "caring about what I said" in the other direction?

[Drederick Tatum]

the pseudo-intellectual posturing can be tedious at times, but apart from that you seem alright.

[Ace42X]

Is it wrong that I have much more respect for someone cleaning toilets for a living than someone without a job at all?

Equivocation, you are talking about respecting *opinions* not someone's lifestyle.

So yes, it is wrong that you respect an opinion based on the speaker's lifestyle, as opposed to the opinion based on its own merits.

It is so wrong, infact, it has its own name. "Ad Hominem" - it's a type of logical fallacy.

This doesn't effect the other nonsensical aspects of it. It is also a kind of Ipse Dixit fallacy. You respect the authority of someone whose authority is irrelevent to the subject in hand. You attribute respect to someone's opinion just because they clean toilets for a living, irrespective of the opinions they voice.

Or rather, you argue you do. I suspect that, like your whole collection of posts, it is bullshit. Actually you respect people whose opinions coincide with your own, or who humour your point of view.

[Ace42X]

Why don't you answer your own question?

Urm, try not to be hung up on the title, I picked it because of the Clash threads, and it was fitting. It is not a "question" so much as an invitation to vote. Democratically.

[Qdrop]

See, this is one of the reasons why I am really not at all bothered by the prospect of leaving. Everyone (well, not EVERYONE) misses the point of what I am saying, and marginalises it with a shallow trivial misrepresentation of my point. And I'm fed up of being labled and catergorised and constrained, by people of limited imagination.

alright, now he's just fuckin copying my "poll thread" word for word...

what a unoriginal shithead...

[Randetica]

alright, now he's just fuckin copying my "poll thread" word for word...

what a unoriginal shithead...

it's cute how youre still trying to contact him
but in fact just talk with your own hand

[Qdrop]

it's cute how youre still trying to contact him that's more for others than him.
just like this poll he created.

but in fact just talk with your own hand
that doesn't even make sense.

[Randetica]

talk to the hand even more often cause the face still aint listening

there you have your sense

im tired as fuck

g night!

[cookiepuss]

er...well I really was trying to say that my liking some one or not has nothing to do with whether I think they should be a board member. and since..."I don't care for him but he doesn't need to go" is not a voting option I will not vote.


not that it matters.

[DipDipDive]

I never actually read your posts (that goes for those in this thread, as well) because I dismissed you as a fucking tool long, long ago. Having said that, your presence here doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[Ace42X]

I never actually read your posts because I dismissed you as a fucking tool long, long ago, so your presence here doesn't bother me in the slightest.

And yet you read this thread... The number of people in this forum who think their feigned nonchalance is credible is astounding.

[buddylee]

bye ...... someone somewere will miss you .

[HOTWIFE]

Ace if you're looking for intelligent conversation this is not the place. If people misinterpret what you're trying to say in your posts it's probably because they just don't get it, or they take constructive criticism as a personal attack. (which most people on here do likeomg!!!!1) There are too many smart asses on here that will always want to 1 up you and don't like to hear opinions that don't match their's. As I see it you're a pretty smart guy and if I see your name I usually stop to read what you wrote. SO I vote ya stay.

[DipDipDive]

It must suck to possess such intellect with the Beastie Boys message board being your primary vehicle for displaying it to society.

[Ace42X]

I'm tempted to make a bunch of aliases just to vote for you to leave.

And that doesn't make you look like a douchbag how?

and I doubt Ace would stay away anyway.

If you read my posts, rather than just responding to generalisations you heard about them, you might've noticed that I covered the "aliases voting" topic quite clearly in my first post.

[Ace42X]

It must suck to possess such intellect with the Beastie Boys message board being your primary vehicle for displaying it to society.

Ditto for your great anecdotes about your underwear and eye-doctor staring at your chest.

[TurdBerglar]

oh shit!

he's got you there!!!

[racer5.0stang]

I can't imagine why anyone would dislike Ace.

Maybe no one understands you, Ace.

Anyways I voted.

[DipDipDive]

oh shit!

he's got you there!!!

Yeah totally, dude. Back to the drawing board.

[kaiser soze]

why let some people you hardly know win?

stay

[Auton]

despite the completely different opinions on doctor who, i still dig the ace

[Ace42X]

Speaking of which, did you see the "camcorder" episode? Where the guy's girlfriend gets turned into a paving slab by a Peter Kay monster? I nearly bit my own leg off to escape.

[Auton]

yeah it was very "different." I was actually kind of enjoying the episode, even though it wasnt doctor who at all, until the monster showed up. terrible, terrible, terrible. and the "we even have a sort of love life" line made me grimace.

[Ace42X]

yeah it was very "different." I was actually kind of enjoying the episode, even though it wasnt doctor who at all, until the monster showed up. terrible, terrible, terrible. and the "we even have a sort of love life" line made me grimace.

If it had been anything else, I would've laughed. As it was Dr Who I put my head in my hands and wept. In a manly, just got knocked out of the world cup, way.

[Auton]

nah i understand. i think Russell T Davies got a bit over the top with the second series especially with the fan wank-ish season finale. daleks v cybermen?! are you kidding?! im just glad davros wasnt in it.

[Ace42X]

im just glad davros wasnt in it.

That was my "what's in the box?" prediction. Glad I was wrong.

[icy manipulator]

you don't have a "i don't give a shit what you do" voting option.

that's where i'd be voting.
exactly. jeez ace harden the fuck up and dont be such a cry baby. it's just a fucking internet board you zoltan. how could you serious give 2 shits about what ppl think of you on here?

[King PSYZ]

should I bother with the box set? i missed the original airing so would rather watch it whenever if it's worthwhile.

[Auton]

i think it's worthwhile. ace disagrees with me, but i thought last season was great. i suggest you get it.

[iceygirl]

stay!

[Documad]

i think it's worthwhile. ace disagrees with me, but i thought last season was great. i suggest you get it.
Which season are you talking about? I'm so confused but I saw something by accident out of order when I was in London. :(

[Documad]

And yet you read this thread... The number of people in this forum who think their feigned nonchalance is credible is astounding.
Do you think everyone cares desperately but pretends not to? If so, why? I don't care what you do -- honestly I don't. Whatever makes you happy. :)

[Ace42X]

Do you think everyone cares desperately but pretends not to? If so, why?

Because the forum is filled with people who "do not care" and yet spend an inordinate amount of time and effort making sure that everyone knows it.

[Kid Presentable]

^^^They're just talkback callers. Lucky to be posting. Glad there's no Echewta option, though.

[Kid Presentable]

Documad, did you enjoy London?

[Auton]

Which season are you talking about? I'm so confused but I saw something by accident out of order when I was in London. :(
the 9th doctor season that just came out on dvd in the states.. the 2005 season.

[Documad]

Because the forum is filled with people who "do not care" and yet spend an inordinate amount of time and effort making sure that everyone knows it.
I guess I understand what you're saying, but I really think that most people don't care whether another board member comes or goes unless it's someone they particularly like or hate.

It's kind of like with my job -- we've got someone leaving to have a baby and someone going to a new job and two new people start and I'm busy and self-obsessed and so I don't bother to learn the new people's names until they've been there long enough that I think they're maybe going to stay and by then it's too late to introduce myself and so I just nod politely if we run into each other in the breakroom. I swear that there's some kind of going-away or his mother-in-law died greeting card being circulated every other day and you're supposed to put cash in an envelope but I don't even know who the person is.

If Auton vouches for you and we have the Dr. Who connection, then you should definitely stay.

[Documad]

the 9th doctor season that just came out on dvd in the states.. the 2005 season.
Is that the Christopher Eccelston one that was on Sci Fi channel? I think I saw almost all of them.

I saw one episode of the newer doctor (who didn't seem like the Dr. at all from my limited exposure to him) when I was in London. He was fighting yet another old foe.

Did they ever explain (either in the new ones or that horrible TV movie) exactly what happened to the other timelords? I bothers me that he can't ever go back. But who am I kidding? I'll buy the damn DVDs no matter what.

[zorra_chiflada]

i don't mind if you stay or go cos i'll still talk to you anyway.

[Documad]

Documad, did you enjoy London?
I had such a wonderful time. I thought I had loads of time but it ran out really fast. We decided not to rent a car so we just did sidetrips on the train (and a one-day coach tour with the other loser tourists) and many days in London. We never got to northern England or Scotland but I had done that stuff before and it turned out that my friend had other things she wanted to see in London.

We split up a lot and that worked out well. We got along well but we had very different interests. My friend saw two shows a day. I saw a really great play at the National Theater and Clapton at Albert Hall. I had the best food ever. And I really enjoyed watching criminal trials at the Old Bailey. I had never done that before and I went over there one morning thinking I'd stay for an hour and I stayed for about six hours because I made friends with the deputies/bailiffs/guards and they hooked me up with some interesting things. I thought it would be stupid but it was fascinating and I took lots of notes so I wouldn't forget anything.

I met the best old Scottish lady who is who I hope to be when I am 60. If she can follow a rugby team around (to NZ last time) then I can still follow bands around when I'm older! I met so many great people -- many of them Australian tourists. :D

I also spent a lot of time looking at war-related things and medieval history things. The WWI part of the Imperial War Museum and the Churchill war rooms were the best. It was my first trip to London when it wasn't summer and thus there were school children everywhere that I went -- especially adorable French ones in blue uniforms like Madeline. There were so many rowdy children at the Imperial War Museum that I finally went to the holocaust exhibit to escape them (you had to be 14 to get in). :o

I watched exactly two TV shows -- one Dr. Who :p, and one absolutely riveting show where people dance with a partner (my friend was very sick that day and I abandoned her at the hotel until after dinner). I've never seen the talent shows in the US but I just loved the judges on that dancing show.

It was unbelievably expensive.

And since I came home, the questions everyone asks are: (1) are there really closed circuit cameras everywhere? and (2) did you see where they bombed the tube?

[Tzar]

I guess I understand what you're saying, but I really think that most people don't care whether another board member comes or goes unless it's someone they particularly like or hate.
exactly!? and he cracks the shits at me for saying he shoulda made the 'i don't give a shit etc etc' option.

i don't have a problem with ace, if he left, my time on this message board will not change at all, my enjoyment level will not alter at all. all he is to me is the dude who says words i can't understand most of the time and has a goku avatar.

[Ace42X]

exactly!? and he cracks the shits at me for saying he shoulda made the 'i don't give a shit etc etc' option.

As the poll is a vote to determine whether I will or will not leave, surely you can see why people's increasingly and repeatedly vocal apathy is of no interest, relevence, or use to me?

There is no way for me to convert "I don't care" into an action other than me staying or leaving, so if it is not one or the other, it is nothing.

[TurdBerglar]

if it's nothing then shutup?

[Tzar]

As the poll is a vote to determine whether I will or will not leave, surely you can see why people's increasingly and repeatedly vocal apathy is of no interest, relevence, or use to me?

There is no way for me to convert "I don't care" into an action other than me staying or leaving, so if it is not one or the other, it is nothing.
yeah, alright i can see that.
then excuse/ignore my vote in the "leave" option... not that it matters now anyway.

[Tzar]

do you like the beastie boys, ace?

[Ace42X]

do you like the beastie boys, ace?

I don't listen to hiphop.</southpark>

[Kid Presentable]

Doc, I noticed the CCTV everywhere, and also the lack of Rubbish bins in the Underground.

Did a bomb go off at Russell Square? Every Antipodean traveller I know (myself included) starts their London experience at Russell Square, for some odd reason.

[Documad]

Ace, I don't understand why you would let a bunch of 15 year olds with computer access decide what you're going to do with yourself next week, but it looks like a decisive victory. If it's a victory. :p

[Documad]

Doc, I noticed the CCTV everywhere, and also the lack of Rubbish bins in the Underground.

Did a bomb go off at Russell Square? Every Antipodean traveller I know (myself included) starts their London experience at Russell Square, for some odd reason.
Yes, I was carrying trash in my pockets until I got back to my hotel!

I was in London for almost a week before I got to Russell Square. I didn't realize that it was a draw for your kind. My kind seem to hang out closer to Victoria Station or Harrods. :rolleyes: In fact, I started my trip by getting lost INSIDE Victoria Station. :o That's hard to do. I blame my extreme fatigue and my friend's illness (she threw up at Gatwick before getting on the commuter train).

[jlees_mcsd]

I don't want you to go, and I may be one of those people who caused you to come to this. I hope I'm not and sorry if I am. I guess as a newer person here I should have felt you all out better. I guess I won't post on PMS days and I will try to debate better. I love a good debate, but not if it makes people feel bad. :(

[Kid Presentable]

I don't want you to go, and I may be one of those people who caused you to come to this. I hope I'm not and sorry if I am. I guess as a newer person here I should have felt you all out better. I guess I won't post on PMS days and I will try to debate better. I love a good debate, but not if it makes people feel bad. :(
I don't think bad is how he feels, at all.

[befsquire]

I don't want you to go, and I may be one of those people who caused you to come to this. I hope I'm not and sorry if I am. I guess as a newer person here I should have felt you all out better. I guess I won't post on PMS days and I will try to debate better. I love a good debate, but not if it makes people feel bad. :(
someone has a high opinion of herself.

[Kid Presentable]

someone has a high opinion of herself.
Yeah, she sent a letter to Santa apologising for making it July.

[befsquire]

she likely thinks the "j" in wwjd is for jlees and not jesus.

this post will now consist of a couple of things she says shouldn't be discussed on a message board.

i went out and drank 4 beers, came home and had unbelievably awesome sex with dr deaf (which included amazing oral sex on behalf of the dr, and what i can only assume was a great blow job by me), then i had a smoke on the porch, a slice of pizza, and a couple of brownies.

[fucktopgirl]

she likely thinks the "j" in wwjd is for jlees and not jesus.

this post will now consist of a couple of things she says shouldn't be discussed on a message board.

i went out and drank 4 beers, came home and had unbelievably awesome sex with dr deaf (which included amazing oral sex on behalf of the dr, and what i can only assume was a great blow job by me), then i had a smoke on the porch, a slice of pizza, and a couple of brownies.


Nice of you to shared, hopefully your ass will not get so big!:D

[befsquire]

nope. been eating whatever i want for years, and i'm still a skinny motherfucker. (note, that also includes a king size reese's cup every day. king size is 4 reese's cups, btw.)

i posted that because she hates when people talk about what they want.

[Kid Presentable]

Yeah, the cat woke me up at 4:30 this morning. She wants me to watch her eat. Otherwise she just meows in my ear. Missus doesn't like being woken up, so I'm trapped between each of them, playing peacemaker.

[Qdrop]

I wonder if there would be more yes votes had this been an anonymous poll.
(lb)

[Rock]

how is this garbage still going on?

[Qdrop]

how is this garbage still going on?

he said he's keeping the poll open for a month.....

[Ace42X]

However, I resent the words "I like him and his posts."

They were chosen for a reason. As I specified in the initial post "I want you to stay because I like insulting you" wasn't an acceptable rationale for me staying.

And just because you said this isn't for attention, doesn't mean it is not.

I can't make people "not post". I fail to see what more I could be expected to do other than showering posters with a spray of invective, which is hardly likely to result in an unbiased vote, is it?

[g-mile7]

Ace your staying......it's called physics baby. You have to stay.

[Ace42X]

I voted for you to stay because you should leave when you want to leave, not when people on a message board "vote" you off.

Yes, I am well aware that I am not obliged to leave. I did say that "exercising / promoting freedom of speech" wasn't a reason to vote for me to stay, and that I was happy to aquiesse to popular demand.

You say "I should go if / when I want" - well I do not "want" to stay where I am not wanted. I stated repeatedly that I am more than happy to leave if that is what popular sentiment prefers.

But to vote on what? You are asking people to give their opinions on you,

I am asking people to *use* their opinions on me to decide whether I stay or go. I am not asking people to tell me what they think of me, nor have I. I explained why "like me" was included in the rubric (IE to stop people saying 'I voted you to stay because I hate you, and like seeing you get insulted and torn to shreds!'). I also explained why the poll was public (so I could discount the inevitable storm of aliases). I explained why there was no "apathy" entry on the poll.

I even said "a single vote will suffice, no need for an explanation."

Now, if you can tell me how I can collect votes on whether or not I should stay or go in any other way which would be "less attention whorish", then I bow to your wisdom, and will consider scrapping the poll and instituting your method.

If not, then while I can not convince you off my motivations, and lack of "posturing", I can ask that you keep your opinings to yourself, just as I asked everyone else to in the initial post.

[monkey]

i havent read this thread because i dont really care if you stay or go, which is also why im not voting. BUT my question is:

will you retaliate against those who said they want you to go, afterwards (if you stay)? by that i mean, those people that voted for you to go, you know who they are now. if there was someone there that you didnt know that he/she disliked you, will you begin to dislike and/or attack them at the next possible chance? will they be forever on your "bad side" for having voted you to leave?

[Ace42X]

will they be forever on your "bad side" for having voted you to leave?

Not at all. I didn't make the poll public for that reason. What it does mean, as I said in my initial post, is that if they start bitching at me and the way I post, I will point out that plenty of people appreciate my posting style, so they can like it or lump it.

I will be inviting subsequent neigh-sayers to take in mind the fact that the majority of people appreciate my postings, so WHO THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE IMPLYING I SHOULD CHANGE JUST TO SUIT A CUNTY MINORITY.

<ahem>

Thank-you for listening.

[Dorothy Wood]

CUNTY MINORITY.



that's it! that's the name!

[Ace42X]

There is not a better way to a "what dress should I wear?" or "should I stay or go?" thread.

Then I fail to see how you can criticise it.

I just wouldn't ask people vote, not expect them to give thier opinions as to why they voted the way the did.

Can you rephrase that better? Not sure what you are getting at.

[Qdrop]

. What it does mean, as I said in my initial post, is that if they start bitching at me and the way I post, I will point out that plenty of people appreciate my posting style, so they can like it or lump it.

I will be inviting subsequent neigh-sayers to take in mind the fact that the majority of people appreciate my postings, so WHO THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE IMPLYING I SHOULD CHANGE JUST TO SUIT A CUNTY MINORITY.


what an idiot.

like that will have ANY fucking effect on people who want to rip on you.

"oh..oh...sorry, Ace...i had no idea a bunch of other people didn't want you to leave the board....i will now allow myself to be silenced by the opinions of others...so sorry."

fuckin idiot.

he's making my Poll look like a selfless charity piece...

I hope you all realize that Ace is going to use any and all "stay" votes as "proof" that most people fuckin love him and think he's great...and he will refer to this fuckin poll as such as often as possible.
you think he had an ego before.

i voted "leave" on accident...now i'm glad i did.....so i don't become one of the "default Ace-slobnobbers".

and people think I manipulate the masses...

[DroppinScience]

i voted "leave" on accident...now i'm glad i did.....so i don't become one of the "default Ace-slobnobbers".

Slobnobber? Is this some new British-ism I'm not aware of? :D

[g-mile7]

what an idiot.

like that will have ANY fucking effect on people who want to rip on you.

"oh..oh...sorry, Ace...i had no idea a bunch of other people didn't want you to leave the board....i will now allow myself to be silenced by the opinions of others...so sorry."

fuckin idiot.

he's making my Poll look like a selfless charity piece...

I hope you all realize that Ace is going to use any and all "stay" votes as "proof" that most people fuckin love him and think he's great...and he will refer to this fuckin poll as such as often as possible.
you think he had an ego before.

i voted "leave" on accident...now i'm glad i did.....so i don't become one of the "default Ace-slobnobbers".

and people think I manipulate the masses...


This is funny.

[Ace42X]

Qdrop revelling in supporting an unpopular position? How unusual.

[fucktopgirl]

and people think I manipulate the masses...

No, we know you manipulated your flat ass with enjoyement!

[g-mile7]

This is all null and void anyway....the question has been answered.....anything else is saying otherwise. The fact is this Ace has felt that people want him to leave or worst get banned, so to prove this he made a poll. The poll shows those who want him to stay and those who want him to go. If he is wise he will take a mental note of those who are saying either one and see if they flip flop and bitch at him in a month or two to leave. I understand your pimipin man, but it futile given how some flip-flop crazy on here. Your not going get a str8 answer from some so its bettre to decide this on your own; however, I doubt you will leave due to a few people's differing opinion and points, espically those who have attacked you or shown you disrepsect first.

[cosmo105]

why should you change your ways at all, minority or majority? wait i didn't want to get into this thread...oh god, someone help me, my feet are sinking...throw me a vine!

[DroppinScience]

No, we know you manipulated your flat ass with enjoyement!

You STILL haven't learned English, have you?

[paul jones]

I should be outdoors looking at boobs sweating in the heatwave

[Qdrop]

I understand your pimipin man, but it futile given how some flip-flop crazy on here. Your not going get a str8 answer from some so its bettre to decide this on your own;

as you would say: TRUTH.

[Qdrop]

why should you change your ways at all, minority or majority? wait i didn't want to get into this thread...oh god, someone help me, my feet are sinking...throw me a vine!

IT'S TOO LATE! NOW YOU MUST CHOOSE!

[Waus]

I hope you all realize that Ace is going to use any and all "stay" votes as "proof" that most people fuckin love him and think he's great...and he will refer to this fuckin poll as such as often as possible.
you think he had an ego before.

i voted "leave" on accident...now i'm glad i did.....so i don't become one of the "default Ace-slobnobbers".

and people think I manipulate the masses...

You're just mad because he put you on ignore.

[Ace42X]

I criticized it because you were acting like this is thread is not about how people feel about you when it is.

Can't make a poll without a thread. I invited people to keep their opininings to themselves in the thread, they declined. That has no reflection on me or my "posturing."

I also am criticizing you because you are asking people to vote whether or not you should go, and then for them to not give their reasons why.

So you are criticising me doing my hardest *not* to make this an attention whoring thread, then. Like I said, I cannot choose what people do or do not want to share. I asked people not to, and I gave reasons for that. If everyone else makes it an attention whoring thread, contrary to my best efforts (and the best efforts that could possibly be made, as you admit), that isn't my fault.

If you make an opinion thread, you should be realistic, and expect people to give their opinions.

I didn't make an "opinions" thread, and did everything reasonably possible to make it the opposite. What you mean is "you should expect other people to make it an opinions thread." I refuse to take responsibility for other people's actions when I have done everything reasonably possible, AS YOU ADMIT, to try and achieve the opposite.

I did everything in my power to ensure what I was doing is giving the posters here a simple and plain choice - stay or go. I also did everything in my power to make it nothing more than that. I wasn't asking them what they "think of me" - I was asking them what they WANT. A forum with me, a forum with out me. Again, I did my best to explain this, and if any aspects of my post contradict this, I invited you to propose amendations.

Also, if people do give their opinions, please don't start crying and attacking people saying "you're not following the rules, I said no opinions."


Make your mind up.

[cosmo105]

You STILL haven't learned English, have you?
seriously, the hell?

i refuse to choose because i kinda don't read his posts anyway so either way, whatevs. i just find it interesting that he really cares what other people think and is willing to go because of it. whatevs, dude.

[g-mile7]

as you would say: TRUTH.


4sho'

[Ace42X]

why should you change your ways at all, minority or majority?

Solicitude.
And some other reasons explained at length in this thread.

[cosmo105]

HE SAID THE SECRET WORD! HE SAID IT! AAAAAAAHH! *rides out on scooter*

[DroppinScience]

seriously, the hell?

i refuse to choose because i kinda don't read his posts anyway so either way, whatevs. i just find it interesting that he really cares what other people think and is willing to go because of it. whatevs, dude.

Huh? All I did was reply to fucktopgirl that her reply to Qdrop made NO SENSE at all (especially since she confused the word "masses" with "asses"). I'm cool with you being on the fence with Ace. I'm not losing sleep over it...

[Waus]

I think it's funny that Ace is taking into consideration that people might want him gone - and respecting that...but then saying "but if people don't then FUCK YOU!"

[Ace42X]

Democracy in action.

[beastieangel01]

HE SAID THE SECRET WORD! HE SAID IT! AAAAAAAHH! *rides out on scooter*

I totally visualized that and it was hilarious (y)

[g-mile7]

Huh? All I did was reply to fucktopgirl that her reply to Qdrop made NO SENSE at all (especially since she confused the word "masses" with "asses"). I'm cool with you being on the fence with Ace. I'm not losing sleep over it...


Most the people care bout what people think about them to some extent. It's basic humna nature. You care if someone doesn't like you even if it is online. The reason being, to some extent, your persoanlity in real life is mannifested on here. The fact that someone who is relatively a stranger can find something wrong with you might chime into a personality falw your people (as in friends and family) won't let you know. Maybe not as much as some, but they do. If nobody did, there would not be any threads whats so ever.

[g-mile7]

I totally visualized that and it was hilarious (y)


Saw that show last night:)

[beastieangel01]

I don't have cable anymore. It makes me furious that I'm missing it :(

[g-mile7]

I don't have cable anymore. It makes me furious that I'm missing it :(


He even said that he is reading a script for a Playhouse movie (Paul Rubin said on the David L. late show)(y)

[Qdrop]

You're just mad because he put you on ignore.

a little history: Ace has had me on and off ignore for 2 years.
mostly ignore.

it's childish, but i could really care less....used to it.
just hate when he starts in with the "YOU'RE A QDROP ALIAS" shit....


i'm just ripping on him recently because A) he's been a particularly huge cocksucker lately. B) he was one of the many that mocked my identical poll months ago...and here he is just repackaging it with virtually the identical wording behind his reasoning.

dude is just ripping my style...

[B4BY 4NN]

8 pages?

Kinda sad. :(

[g-mile7]

8 pages?

Kinda sad. :(


Nuthin else happening on the board I guess....

[Waus]

dude is just ripping my style...

I totally just got zanged the scene from MIB where Will Smith goes..."The difference between you and me? I make this look good."

s'right. zanged.

[B4BY 4NN]

Nuthin else happening on the board I guess....

True.

I don't even know what this is all about. Can someone paraphrase?

[Qdrop]

I totally just got zanged the scene from MIB where Will Smith goes..."The difference between you and me? I make this look good."

s'right. zanged.

so you're saying Ace just takes my style/ideas and makes them look better?

please say you're not riding his cock that hard.

please, for your sake....

[g-mile7]

True.

I don't even know what this is all about. Can someone paraphrase?


This is all null and void anyway....the question has been answered.....anything else is saying otherwise. The fact is this Ace has felt that people want him to leave or worst get banned, so to prove this he made a poll. The poll shows those who want him to stay and those who want him to go. If he is wise he will take a mental note of those who are saying either one and see if they flip flop and bitch at him in a month or two to leave. I understand your pimipin man, but it futile given how some flip-flop crazy on here. Your not going get a str8 answer from some so its bettre to decide this on your own; however, I doubt you will leave due to a few people's differing opinion and points, espically those who have attacked you or shown you disrepsect first.

guess this works plus Q being mad since he believes Ace is a shark biter (biting his style, hypocrite whatever)

[cosmo105]

Huh? All I did was reply to fucktopgirl that her reply to Qdrop made NO SENSE at all (especially since she confused the word "masses" with "asses"). I'm cool with you being on the fence with Ace. I'm not losing sleep over it...
i'm saying "the hell" because i, too, have no clue what the hell she said.

[Dorothy Wood]

good lord, everyone calm down!

[g-mile7]

Thewars are well and good I see....excellent *does the Monty Burns*

[Waus]

so you're saying Ace just takes my style/ideas and makes them look better?

please say you're not riding his cock that hard.

please, for your sake....

Whoa, I didn't say which was which. For all you know you're Will Smith.

Don't cop an attitude about it.

[cosmo105]

good lord, everyone calm down!
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO COOOOL OUT!

[Dorothy Wood]

I tell you what, qdrop is no will smith!

[Qdrop]

Whoa, I didn't say which was which. For all you know you're Will Smith.

Don't cop an attitude about it.

fine fine...
my bad.

[g-mile7]

Stay.

[Dorothy Wood]

I think a lot of people who voted YES were of the opinion that they really didn't care if you stayed or went. You are already using those type of votes as proof that people like your posting style.

Way to twist what was said, but I guess that's what you do.

I call for a new poll:

1. It must be anonymous (even Americans know a true vote must be anonymous)

2. It should have an (I really don't give a shit about Ace, but live and let live) option to filter out the "I like Ace" people from the "Live and let live" people.


why? the people who don't care just shouldn't vote, that's the point.

[Qdrop]

I tell you what, qdrop is no will smith!

tommy lee jones?

[Bob]

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO COOOOL OUT!

now you make me a pretty salad

[Qdrop]

^ that's what i said.

you DO kinda seem like my alias or something.

[g-mile7]

too late, from the posts I've read, most have said basically "Live and let live", but Ace is already using those type of votes to fuel his already over-inflated ego as votes of confidence.


I don't think Ace needs any confidence boosters. Anybody who is able to spit their opinion and not hold back in the belief that it is correct has alot of confidence in not only the thought they say but themself as well.

[Dorothy Wood]

well maybe you guys should just kill yourselves.

[Ace42X]

You want attention, there's nothing wrong with that.

Actually, I was expecting the numerous detractors here to vote me out, at which point I'd leave and receive no attention whatsoever. As I said.

And "know what would happen" ? As I have no created attention-whoring threads ever, and as, as far as I know, attention whores don't generally give lengthy explanations why they do not want people to make too much fuss, I fail to see how I could know anything.

It is easy to tell me I should've known it would turn out like this after the fact and the votes are in.

1. It must be anonymous (even Americans know a true vote must be anonymous)

After you yourself said you'd create aliases to try and vote me off? Are you deliberately trying to be stupid, or does it just come naturally?

Why, precisely, do you think it "must be anonymous" ? What retribution can neighsayers expect? At all? I find your over-estimation of my importance both gratifying and amusing, that you think that if I stay I can spit out more god-like wrath on people than I did before.

from the posts I've read, most have said basically "Live and let live", but Ace is already using those type of votes to fuel his already over-inflated ego as votes of confidence.
And as for thinking people are voting "stay" even though they "don't care" - I think you should take a look at the names and ask them. Or get them to post here. I will be more than happy to discount every single fence-sitter from the final resolve, one way or the other.

I find it amusing that you "read these posts" and use them in an argument, but then fail to look at the poll results and see the fact that they simply *didn't vote*

[Qdrop]

And as for thinking people are voting "stay" even though they "don't care" - I think you should take a look at the names and ask them. Or get them to post here. I will be more than happy to discount every single fence-sitter from the final resolve, one way or the other.

Auton, Beck, befsquire, bethnolbc, Bob, burbboi, Chicka B, cmute rhyme, DeeJayZap, Dorothy Wood, DustSucker, D_Raay, enree erzweglle, fucktopgirl, g-mile7, HAL 9000, iceygirl, ikol, Introspect, jackrock, jlees_mcsd, Kid Presentable, King PSYZ, Knuckles, like2_drink, Miho`, mp-seventythree, na§tee, Planetary, racer5.0stang, Randetica, Schmeltz, sercomdj01, The Padster, vickista, wanton wench, zorra_chiflada

^ there they are.

subtract the "i don't care"s:
cmute is one...who else?..
i don't really feel like going through the thread...

[Ace42X]

I apologize then. I have been giving you far too much credit for being intelligent, when really you are just an intellectual.

Why yes, would you like me to tally your vote as a leave instead?

[Bob]

i voted stay and i meant it. i think we'd be at a loss without you.

[Dorothy Wood]

i voted stay and i meant it. i think we'd be at a loss without you.

bob, if we hold hands and pray, anything is possible.

[Bob]

bob, if we hold hands and pray, anything is possible.

no. god has no control over ace

[Dorothy Wood]

No, I like you, and I would like for you to stay. Of course I like everybody, and I would like everyone to stay.


HEY CMUTE YOU MUST BE GAY BECAUSE YOU'RE RIDING ACE'S COCK SO SO HARD IT'S MAKING EVERYONE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE

guess who I am?

[Qdrop]

man, Cmute has flip-flopped like 3 times in this thread already.

[g-mile7]

man, Cmute has flip-flopped like 3 times in this thread already.


You did too however(y)

[Qdrop]

You did too however(y)

well, i don't want Ace to leave.

i just think it was a hypocritical and unorginal move to copy my gay ass poll from 2 months ago, nearly word for word- particularly after he mocked it.

i didn't really say so at first...but at this drags on, and he continues to lift complete statements from my poll and it's ensuing explanations, nearly word for word...
well, it's getting might gay in here....

[g-mile7]

well, i don't want Ace to leave.

i just think it was a hypocritical and unorginal move to copy my gay ass poll from 2 months ago, nearly word for word- particularly after he mocked it.

i didn't really say so at first...but at this drags on, and he continues to lift complete statements from my poll and it's ensuing explanations, nearly word for word...
well, it's getting might gay in here....


Examples then if you will otherwise this isn't the first or last "should I stay or go" poll and thread. It has been done before (shoot I even had someone's alias make me one shit like I'd would leave because of people's votes)

[Ace42X]

Incidently, Qdrops thread got deleted before I could read it. I only found out about it after commenting on Freebaser's derisory thread. Just a tid-bit for those interested in facts, rather than qdrop's "paranoid conspiracy theories."

And the fact that if the votes go against me, I will actually be leaving, rather than going on to break a 10,000 post count.

[Qdrop]

Incidently, Qdrops thread got deleted before I could read it. I only found out about it after commenting on Freebaser's derisory thread. Just a tid-bit for those interested in facts, rather than qdrop's "paranoid conspiracy theories." yep, and it's right there in Freebassers thread:
http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=65353&page=2

post #48
I only voted for you to leave because I think you should go. And because I hate this sort of attention whoring.

thanks Ace!
you're a fuckin idiot hypocrit.

FUCKIN OWNED!

And the fact that if the votes go against me, I will actually be leaving, rather than going on to break a 10,000 post count.
MY poll was to leave the BF general section...not the board.
and, i said...towards the end of the day...when i was getting some surprising comments about my value here (as you have), and the poll was not nearly as negative as i thought it would be (about 50/50), i recanted somewhat and just annouced that, in addition to this being the gayest fuckin thing i had ever done on this board, i would reduce my BFG posting time, and reduce sheriffing...
which worked for a time (until recently), and will again shortly....
i'm just totally enthralled with this a few other threads in this section lately...

[DroppinScience]

yep, and it's right there in Freebassers thread:
http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=65353&page=2

post #48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace42X
I only voted for you to leave because I think you should go. And because I hate this sort of attention whoring.

thanks Ace!
you're a fuckin idiot hypocrit.

FUCKIN OWNED!

That's a thing of beauty. (y)

[Ace42X]

Howso? "I hate this sort of attention whoring" is referring to freebaser's thread. And I was born out by the fact that he didn't leave, and neither did Q. I explained quite catergorically why my poll was different when I started out. I can hardly see how I was owned when I prefaced against precisely that several days ago.

From my first post:
This is not an attention whoring thread / poll. I am more than happy to leave so I do not have to listen to your ignorant bleating anymore. I repeat: I will be leaving, unlike Freebaser or Qdrop

Really, it is sad that Qdrop is so desperate to castigate me that he he'll grab onto anything, and droppin' is so desperate to cheerlead against me that he'll jump in on it.

Bunch of fuckwits that prove my point.

[DroppinScience]

Tell yourself whatever you have to, this is still an "attention whoring" thread. You even linked this thread on your signature. If that's not attention seeking, I don't know what is. Deny all you like on how "different" this was, the end result is exactly the same.

Freebasser's was a joke, while Qdrop was serious (though he couldn't stay away from BF... but he can't help his impulses). Your thread is just a bunch of chest-thumping to show how much you rule over the internet: "Look at me! I'm Ace! I'm so much smarter than everyone on this forum combined. Watch me pull out my thesaurus as I display my prowess with big words and belittle you all. Especially if you're a woman!"

So yeah, you're staying. Congrats, big guy. You're King of this message board and we're all your little court jesters. Have fun.

[yeahwho]

Ace is not smarter than me.

[Kid Presentable]

This is an attention-whoring thread, based on the number of attention-whores posting in it. There's always going to be a difference between outcome and intention.

[yeahwho]

Ace is not a bigger whore than me.

[Ace42X]

Tell yourself whatever you have to, this is still an "attention whoring" thread.

<sigh>

Yes, I am not surprised that you are convinced that your own negative opinion of me is right, in face of all the evidence to the contrary. Of course you think it is an "attention whoring thread" - because that's just one more way you can try to get retribution on me for all the little tiffs and spats I've had between you and your detachable penis. And you can tell yourself whatever you have to in order to justify your negative view of me. Ditto with being an insipid cheerleader for whichever disgruntled 'tard feels its his turn to stand up and take a pop at me.

You even linked this thread on your signature. If that's not attention seeking, I don't know what is.

That is certainly one interpretation. Of course, it is a facile one which misses a few points. Firstly, that the link leads to a post which says quite clearly and categorically that there is no need to state an opinion, just vote. Secondly, that as the poll will be going for a month, and I did not anticipate this thread to be afloat that long (or even this long, such is my underestimation of how much fuckheads like you can't help but try and have a pop at me... Oh but right, you "don't care"... Of course...), which would rather undermine the point of keeping the poll open long enough for "even infrequent posters".

I believe I also explained why I wanted to make sure that everyone had a chance to vote. If I were to stay because 3 people said stay, and 0 said leave, that would do nothing to address the issue which caused me to create the thread in the first place.

Deny all you like on how "different" this was, the end result is exactly the same.

Yes, and it is easy to tell me how inevitable it was with hindsight. Especially given the number of posters (your beloved ass-lick included) who seemed positive that the inverse would occur, and that the poll would swing against me.

Freebasser's was a joke, while Qdrop was serious (though he couldn't stay away from BF... but he can't help his impulses).

So, my thread is *more* attention whoring than someone who just created it for effect, and someone who didn't go along with it anyway?

Can you smell what you are shovelling?

Your thread is just a bunch of chest-thumping to show how much you rule over the internet: "Look at me! I'm Ace! I'm so much smarter than everyone on this forum combined.

And wouldn't that seem a bit hollow if it went the other way and I was voted out? Wouldn't that disprove "that I rule over the Internet"? Wouldn't it be impossible for me to thump my chest if people voted against me, as your right-hand-girl suggested?

Use an ounce of common sense, I can assure you I do not have prescience, and being in a position to "beat my chest" over anything is solely the product of how people voted *subsequent* to my initial post.

Watch me pull out my thesaurus as I display my prowess with big words and belittle you all. Especially if you're a woman!"

Yes, how dispicable I am. How clever of you to spot it, and how silly of all those plebeians who voted me to stay are for falling for it. Listen up everyone, Camembert here has figured it all out!

Pshaw. If I am so bad, then let's see me get voted out so I need never intimidate anyone else again.

So yeah, you're staying. Congrats, big guy. You're King of this message board and we're all your little court jesters. Have fun.

Yah, damn straight. And doesn't that just burn you up, that despite all these things you feel perfectly vindicated levelling against me, most people *like* me the way I am?

But, Camembert, if you have the balls, tell me to leave. Tell all the other people here that you know the situation better than they do, and that I should go. Tell them how much better off this forum would be without my antics, without me cussing your smug gimpy chops up.

If you tell me to go, I will, no questions asked. Go on, I'm sure Qdrop, Valvano, Capone, Citizen B, and a handful of other people will be right behind you. They'd prolly chew their left nut off for an opportunity.

So whaddaya say? Want to take your message board back? Wanna be the daddy? Think you can be the big-man?

[DroppinScience]

That's all very wonderful, Ace.

But I never predicted the poll would have the unanimous outcome of you being voted off. Never said any such thing.

[Ace42X]

Never said any such thing.

I don't recall saying *you* did. Infact, quite the opposite. I said that you think the other because of hindsight.

Incidently, no answer to stay or go? The offer expires while you wait...

[yeahwho]

The most interesting thing about Ace's "Should I Stay or Should I Go" thread is how much better it is than all the other such nonsense combined.

My hats off to Ace, even a vapid topic such as this is much more interesting with Ace in the drivers seat.

[QueenAdrock]

The thing about this poll is that I wouldn't EXPECT people to tell you to go. People don't like being mean. Even if they wanted you to go, if their name shows up under the poll's answers, I wouldn't ever expect go to outweigh stay. Even if you DO tell them that you won't be angry or spiteful or any of that crap, I don't think people would honestly tell you if they wanted you to go. Especially if it's being swung toward the "stay" option, like at this point. Why would someone say go now if it looks like you're being asked to stay? You'll just remember it later on and bring it out.

I've done it before. When one of my friends was talking shit about my exboyfriend, I told my friends "Tell me now if you have a problem with Wayne, or shut the hell up forever." Since I didn't give them an anonymous option, none of them had the balls to stand up to me and tell me what they really thought. And that's what I was banking on. It's a smart move, really.

[Ace42X]

The most interesting thing about Ace's "Should I Stay or Should I Go" thread is how much better it is than all the other such nonsense combined.


"A popular man arouses the jealousy of the powerful." - Thufir Hawat.

I think it is a testament to how inept Qdrop and Freebaser's (and previous) contributions were that Q and others have gotten so worked up over how this poll has gone.

It is sad that they hate me for doing what they cannot.

No answer from droppin... <plays the countdown theme>
boo-doo-boo-doo bada da da, bong.

Guess that means he has no balls now he's seen how the poll has gone Queenie. We'll have to see if anyone else can goad me into giving them his "get Ace out of the forum, free" card instead.

The thing about this poll is that I wouldn't EXPECT people to tell you to go.

Well of course you wouldn't... If you did expect people to, you'd look foolish announcing it in the face of the current results, wouldn't you?

People don't like being mean

Except when they are mean enough to hurl insults at me regularly? People don't like being mean when it means a nice clean and fresh vote - but are more than happy to dish out cheap shots the rest of the time?

WhateEVA.

Why would someone say go now if it looks like you're being asked to stay?

Because it is quite conceivable it could be swung the otherway. Because a lot of votes in the stay catergory are inadmissable under the rules I set out in my initial post. Because they have the courage of their convictions. Because they don't want to have me telling them that if they had a problem with me, they should've done something about it when it was an option, rather than being whinging craven children? The list goes on.

When one of my friends was talking shit about my exboyfriend, I told my friends "Tell me now if you have a problem with Wayne, or shut the hell up forever." Since I didn't give them an anonymous option, none of them had the balls to stand up to me and tell me what they really thought.

Yah, "your friends." Totally different dynamic. There is no relationship to strain or jeopardise between me and people who dislike me enough to vote me off the board, especially considering that if they got me voted off the board, they'd never have to deal with me again.

[ET]

I didn't even read the other posts but, seriously, if you like the forum then stay. Who cares about who "hates" you? So what! Stay so they hate you even more! It's what the kids do these days! And if it's boring or lame or it's a chore to even post then just stop. Not a difficult decision!

Does your mother still pick your clothing out for you? Jeez.

[QueenAdrock]

He obviously does have balls though, because he voted "go" from the get-go. He's probably been thinking his answer over, but he's obviously not afraid of you or what you think of him if he originally put "leave."

I'm saying people are putting stay because they don't want you to hate them, or don't want to stir up anything.

[The Notorious LOL]

what kind of balls does it take to post a thread about whether or not someone should leave?



I changed my mind, I voted go because this thread sucks.

[ET]

Oh, he just wants some sugar from his fellow board members. My bad, dawg!

But still, it's kind of a stupid post. Not that I can talk. Or can I?

p.s. I voted leave because it was the first option. zlolz

[DroppinScience]

No answer from droppin... <plays the countdown theme>


That's because I'm handing you your e-victory on a silver platter. You want it SO badly, you can have it. Lap it up, it's all you'll ever get in life.

I voted for you to leave, but that doesn't mean I'm forcing you leave. You can do whatever you want, regardless of what the poll results are. It really doesn't matter.