View Full Version : The Daily Show vs. The Colbert Report
DroppinScience
07-27-2006, 10:32 PM
Ever since The Daily Show did a spinoff with The Colbert Report, I've been getting twice the funny when it comes to political satire and I've nearly died from laughing, so I'm glad The Daily Show has expanded.
Having said that... which do you prefer?
I don't know if I'm committing blasphemy against the almighty Jon Stewart, but I'm gonna have to say that Stephen Colbert has now stolen the show from Jon Stewart.
While both are indispensible and are two awesome sides of a coin, I enjoy the over-the-top approach that Colbert has and how he's always "in character" (as the Bill O'Reilly-esque parody of a right-wing blowhoard pundit). His segments with Congressmen are priceless, "Word" is hilarious, as well as "The Threatdown" and his nationwide search for a new black friend is among a billion reasons why Colbert does it for me.
Oh yes, and nobody else points his index finger better than Colbert! :D
TurdBerglar
07-27-2006, 10:59 PM
he seems to have a bit of a hard time talking at times
DroppinScience
07-27-2006, 11:04 PM
he seems to have a bit of a hard time talking at times
Which? Colbert?
Drederick Tatum
07-27-2006, 11:09 PM
the junior reporters on the Daily Show sometimes let the team down. Colbert is going on all cylinders at the moment. that character is priceless.
DroppinScience
07-27-2006, 11:15 PM
the junior reporters on the Daily Show sometimes let the team down. Colbert is going on all cylinders at the moment. that character is priceless.
I dunno, I'm enjoying that Jason Jones guy a lot. And that Hodgman guy (that "scientist"-looking fellow) is priceless, too.
But Colbert takes it, man. Colbert takes it! Jon has reason to be afraid. ;)
kaiser soze
07-27-2006, 11:17 PM
Colbert is good, but is he Jewish?
DroppinScience
07-27-2006, 11:21 PM
Colbert is good, but is he Jewish?
He's a French Catholic, yo. :cool:
QueenAdrock
07-27-2006, 11:34 PM
Sorry, you're wrong.
It's still Jon.
But I think that's because I like the news more than punditry.
SobaViolence
07-27-2006, 11:39 PM
they are different. but i like Colbert for the ridiculous christiannity and the patriotism. Stewart for the commentary and just you-gotta-be-kidding-me frustration with politics and media. and without Stewart, there wouldn't be a Colbert.
tonight's episode of Colbert was the funniest one in months.
It's the United States of America, not the United States and one District of America.
lmfao.
Documad
07-27-2006, 11:41 PM
The consensus in the real world is that Colbert's show is better -- both because it's newer and fresher and because all the correspondents on the Daily Show suck. But Jon will always get credit for discovering some real talent.
QueenAdrock
07-27-2006, 11:43 PM
I LOVE Ed Helms.
And Samantha Bee last week, when she turned to her baby and was like "You're not laughing...what are you, stupid?" (y)
SobaViolence
07-28-2006, 12:03 AM
oh, back in 2000/2001
lance, stephen, carrell, mo rocca and nancy walls...
that was the zenith and pinnacle all rolled into one.
QueenAdrock
07-28-2006, 12:05 AM
^YES!
I fucking loved Stephen vs. Steven. (y)
Documad
07-28-2006, 12:12 AM
oh, back in 2000/2001
lance, stephen, carrell, mo rocca and nancy walls...
that was the zenith and pinnacle all rolled into one.
Exactly. Especially lance and nancy.
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tonight's episode of Colbert was the funniest one in months.
It's the United States of America, not the United States and one District of America.
lmfao.
I'm watching it now. I feel so bad for Eleanor Holmes Norton because she doesn't get the joke and she's such a great lady. But it's hilarious. :o
TurdBerglar
07-28-2006, 12:14 AM
imagine if that first guy didn't leave the daily show. what the fuck happened to him anyways?
TurdBerglar
07-28-2006, 12:20 AM
yeah that was the last i saw him. he was the creep boyfriend
SobaViolence
07-28-2006, 12:25 AM
Kilborn apparently was an ass to the creators/executive producers
DroppinScience
07-28-2006, 12:25 AM
Speaking of correspondents, where is Corddry? :confused:
Kilborn apparently was an ass to the creators/executive producers
....and his show after Letterman was unwatchable.
SobaViolence
07-28-2006, 12:37 AM
he had good musical acts 2/3 of the time...
He was typical of all the late night hosts---terrible interview skills. Leno kills me with his interviews. I only watch Letterman and Kimmel but record the others if I like a guest or band. I did used to watch Kilborn when good bands were on and he loved to have models on his show.
I never really cared for Jon Stewart much, but Colbert right cracks me up.
DroppinScience
07-28-2006, 02:38 AM
I'm watching it now. I feel so bad for Eleanor Holmes Norton because she doesn't get the joke and she's such a great lady. But it's hilarious. :o
I nearly died laughing, but at the same time... damn, there was some tension.
"What part of France are you from? Are you from Paris or its environs?"
:D
Loppfessor
07-28-2006, 02:45 AM
I love both these shows and this was almost too close to call but the Better Know a District and that board of people on Colbert's shit list (I forget what it's called) put The Report over the top.
enree erzweglle
07-28-2006, 03:23 AM
I've been watching The Colbert Report more so than The Daily Show. The presentation and style of the Colbert Report is slightly different and that's edging out TDS just a bit.
I think it's funny that both shows, in Tivo's lineup, are listed in the News category, right up there with shows like Nightline. :)
DroppinScience
07-28-2006, 03:38 AM
I think it's funny that both shows, in Tivo's lineup, are listed in the News category, right up there with shows like Nightline. :)
Speaking of news, here's a great clip of Colbert totally kicking the morning news shows' asses (Matt Lauer, especially). :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfvauaok8EM
adam_f
07-28-2006, 08:36 AM
I'll watch both, but I'm always sure to see Colbert.
SobaViolence
07-28-2006, 09:08 AM
you're all on notice.
i like the first 10 minutes of the daily show, the headlines. the rest is getting kind of lame. it's too...wacky.
the colbert report is spot on the whole time. and damned if his commentary isn't a little better than that on the daily show, he can use his character to get the other people to make fun of themselves, it's pretty genius. like when he got the guy to admit he didn't know the 10 commandments. you can't beat that.
the segment the other night, where he was talking about how the news shows were criticizing that wexler guy for saying "i like cocaine because it's a fun thing to do", and saying "why do politicians go on the colbert report, they just get made fun of?", etc...colbert's response was just wonderful. his show's more hardhitting than any of those shows, in its own way.
god bless you, mr. colbert.
beastieangel01
07-28-2006, 10:14 AM
how dare you make me choose, how DARE YOU :mad:
I love Colbert, love. But Stewart already had dibs on my heart/vagina/funny bone prior to the Colbert Report and I'm loyal and shit. Or something.
But again, HOW DARE YOU!
wrongwayandugg
07-28-2006, 11:25 AM
I'm loyal and shit.
What's your sign?
Dr Deaf
07-28-2006, 12:24 PM
without the daily show, there could be no colbert report.
i think both are great, but i find i usually watch TDS and sort of listen to the colbert report, whilst internetting. TDS has been rocking for a decade, it'll always be a classic. i watch them as a pair really. you could probably group them in a 1 hr combined format and it'd be gold.
if you haven't seen jon stewart on CROSSFIRE, do yourself a favour and watch it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE&mode=related&search=jon%20stewart%20owns%20).
yes he's funny, but he can hold his own with traditional news doods.
i also really like real time with bill mahr, even it makes me furious after watching it.
for real watch j stewart on crossfire, owned!
enree erzweglle
07-28-2006, 01:12 PM
i also really like real time with bill mahr, even it makes me furious after watching it.
for real watch j stewart on crossfire, owned!I always forget that I watch Real Time--his mini-seasons sometimes throw me off. That's an example of a show that I never want to watch, then I do, and then I'm (usually) glad that I did.
Stephen Colbert: it kills me when he screws up a line and his face turns red. :p Everything he says is pretty much the opposite of what he means and many of his guests just do NOT get that and if they didn't approach the interview in a defensive posture, they find one quickly. I always wonder why they don't do their research ahead of time or at least have someone do it for them. They go in guns blazing and just don't get it and then they look sort of foolish.
Jon Stewart: he has several appearances in the movie Wordplay, which is about the New York Time's crossword puzzle. It sounds dull but it was well done, an interesting documentary. In it, they talk about how he (Jon Stewart) got Will Shortz (the editor of the NYT crossword puzzle) to devise a puzzle with a central theme of marriage proposals and that's how JS proposed to his now-wife, through that puzzle. :)
Dr Deaf
07-28-2006, 01:57 PM
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Jon Stewart: he has several appearances in the movie Wordplay, which is about the New York Time's crossword puzzle. It sounds dull but it was well done, an interesting documentary. In it, they talk about how he (Jon Stewart) got Will Shortz (the editor of the NYT crossword puzzle) to devise a puzzle with a central theme of marriage proposals and that's how JS proposed to his now-wife, through that puzzle. :)
ha! interesting. i'd like to check that out.
FYI: bill maher has a show on amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/homepage.html/103-2149709-5933456) of all places called,fishbowl.
i watched one of the first episodes and then just kind of forgot about it.
/watches current episode.
edit: url fuckkaged and then repaired.
DroppinScience
07-28-2006, 02:17 PM
Stephen Colbert: it kills me when he screws up a line and his face turns red. :p Everything he says is pretty much the opposite of what he means and many of his guests just do NOT get that and if they didn't approach the interview in a defensive posture, they find one quickly. I always wonder why they don't do their research ahead of time or at least have someone do it for them. They go in guns blazing and just don't get it and then they look sort of foolish.
Yeah, even when Colbert makes a slip-up (accidentally calling the Lebanese ambassador the "Lesbian ambassador"), he still manages to turn it funny and saves himself.
As for his guests... I think most people who appear on the show "get it" when they're being interviewed by his persona. Early on, some were confused by his rhetoric and visibly irritated (just saw a clip of the author of "He's Just Not That Into You" and that guy was almost ready to flip out!), but most people are playing along with Colbert's sense of funny. (y)
enree erzweglle
07-28-2006, 02:58 PM
As for his guests... I think most people who appear on the show "get it" when they're being interviewed by his persona. Early on, some were confused by his rhetoric and visibly irritated (just saw a clip of the author of "He's Just Not That Into You" and that guy was almost ready to flip out!), but most people are playing along with Colbert's sense of funny. (y)I haven't gotten that sense with some of his guests, even some of the recent ones. Some, you can see that they don't get it but then you can see a real-time (lb) happen and they drop their guard, lighten up, and go along.
However, others do not get him or the format at all. Christiane Amanpour comes to mind straight away and just about everyone he interviews in his Know a District segment does too. Those people don't get it. The woman from Strangers with Candy: she got him I think before he did. :)
enree erzweglle
07-28-2006, 03:01 PM
ha! interesting. i'd like to check that out.
FYI: bill maher has a show on amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/homepage.html/103-2149709-5933456) of all places called,fishbowl.I'll have to find that. Thanks for the recommendation.
Sometimes his guests are a bit over the top and argue for the sake of it but those are the bits I can wash away. When I've got Bill Maher on, I usually do crunches (I listen more than I watch) so not seeng some of those people makes it easier to dismiss them when they get pissy.
DroppinScience
07-28-2006, 04:35 PM
I wasn't thinking of the "Better Know A District" Congressmen (actually, it's GOOD that the Congressmen and Congresswomen don't get it, which makes it all the more funny), but people like that Marvel Comics President and Joe Scarborough, etc. were all getting it. Lou Dobbs was getting it, that football player poet got it. I dunno, there's lot who have fun with it, I sense.
wrongwayandugg
07-28-2006, 04:36 PM
shit! mind of mencia. (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=69213) for real.
DroppinScience
07-28-2006, 04:52 PM
shit! mind of mencia. (http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=69213) for real.
Uh... no. This thread is about people who are FUNNY.
Documad
07-28-2006, 09:33 PM
the segment the other night, where he was talking about how the news shows were criticizing that wexler guy for saying "i like cocaine because it's a fun thing to do", and saying "why do politicians go on the colbert report, they just get made fun of?", etc...colbert's response was just wonderful. his show's more hardhitting than any of those shows, in its own way.
That was golden.
I also love it when he can't help himself and he starts to giggle at his own character. He let the mask slip a little at the end of that segment.
I agree with DS -- I still can't believe how many politicians go on that show without understanding the joke.
And I really can't believe that some of you people with otherwise good taste like Bill Maher. I have intense dislike for him. For one thing, he helped Ann Coulter's career. :mad:
QueenAdrock
07-28-2006, 10:46 PM
My brother used to be part of a medieval reinactment group during college, and the Daily Show contacted them to ask them to be a part of their segment. Evan told his group to decline, because all the Daily Show would do is make fun of them.
I said, sure they would. But you'd be on Daily Show. And it IS pretty dorky. Shut up.
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